Shared tv universes
Stewart Shutler
Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and therefore
All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the same world.
This got me to thinking about a similar situation. A few doctor
characters, Dr. Westfall and Dr. Auschlander from St. Elsewhere, once
appeared on Cheers. Cheers begat Frasier. Frasier and Lilith once
appeared on Wings. This season, a couple of characters from Frasier made
cameos on The John Larroquette Show and on Caroline in the City. Caroline
crossed over to The Single Guy and Friends. Friends has crossed over to
Mad About You and even Madaman of the People. Also, Phoebe from Friends
has appeared on Hope and Gloria. Alan Brady, a character from The Dick
Van Dyke Show has appeared on Mad About You.
To be really anal, and tounge in cheek, one could draw two conclusions:
1. No characters on any of these shows can ever be seen watching any of
these other shows.
2. Because the chain of shows listed began with St. Elsewhere, and the
series finale of St. Elsewhere showed that the whole series was just the
product of the imagination of an autistic boy, well ...
Can anybody else think of other shows to add to my chain or any other
chains of shows like it?
--
Tom Bromley
In a previous article, ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Stewart Shutler) says:
>To be really anal, and tounge in cheek, one could draw two conclusions:
>
>1. No characters on any of these shows can ever be seen watching any of
>these other shows.
>
>2. Because the chain of shows listed began with St. Elsewhere, and the
>series finale of St. Elsewhere showed that the whole series was just the
>product of the imagination of an autistic boy, well ...
>
>Can anybody else think of other shows to add to my chain or any other
>chains of shows like it?
>
To further the St. Elsewhere enigma:
1) In the "Northern Exposure" universe, "St. Elsewhere" is just a TV
show. The premiere episode has Ed Chigliak showing off his knowledge of
medical jargon to Joel Fleishman (sp?), explaining he learned it from
watching St. Elsewhere.
2) On the other hand, "Chicago Hope" appears to exist in the shared
universe with St. Eligius. Dr. Elliot Axelrod (Stephen Furst), now a
veterinarian, appeared on "Hope" ; although not identified by name, it's
possible that Shirley Daniels now works at CH as well (but since it was
all a dream sequence, this may be dubious -- hmmm, yet another level of
reality!)
3) What ties these hospital universes together? My theory: they all
revolve around Dr. Morton Chegley, the gruff-but-lovable physician who
was played by Lloyd Nolan in the '60s classic "Julia". Doctors on both
"St. Elsewhere" and "Chicago Hope" have identified Dr. Chegley as their
personal physician. (The man must be in his 90s by now, at least --
paging Guinness!) Wonder why "Julia" has never been revived by Nick at
Nite or the other networks that have brought back other shows of that
era ...
--
Tom Bromley ap...@yfn.ysu.edu
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I could've missed the pain,
But I'd have had to miss the dance." -- Garth Brooks
Angie
In article <4nvd0a$a...@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca>,
ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca says...
>
>Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that
Different
>Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and
therefore
>All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the
same world.
> This got me to thinking about a similar situation. A few
doctor
>characters, Dr. Westfall and Dr. Auschlander from St.
Elsewhere, once
>appeared on Cheers. Cheers begat Frasier. Frasier and Lilith
once
>appeared on Wings. This season, a couple of characters from
Frasier made
>cameos on The John Larroquette Show and on Caroline in the
City. Caroline
>crossed over to The Single Guy and Friends. Friends has crossed
over to
>Mad About You and even Madaman of the People.
And, don't forget Ross's visit to the Single Guy.
> Also, Phoebe from Friends
>has appeared on Hope and Gloria. Alan Brady, a character from
The Dick
>Van Dyke Show has appeared on Mad About You.
>
>To be really anal, and tounge in cheek, one could draw two
conclusions:
>
>1. No characters on any of these shows can ever be seen
watching any of
>these other shows.
>
>2. Because the chain of shows listed began with St. Elsewhere,
and the
>series finale of St. Elsewhere showed that the whole series was
just the
>product of the imagination of an autistic boy, well ...
>
>Can anybody else think of other shows to add to my chain or any
other
>chains of shows like it?
>
Kramer from Seinfeld is renting Paul Buchman's (Mad About You)
old apartment, which made the Seinfeld episode where George and
the now dearly departed Susan were watching MAY in bed *really*
surreal. (Not to mention John and Carly doing the same on
Larroquette in the finale--what is it about MAY and bed?;>)
Angie
(I like the idea of the whole network schedule being the product
of Tommy's imagination; it explains a lot.)
mel...@qnet.com
On this notable date in history Thu, 23 May 1996 14:30:42 GMT,
mth...@uwindsor.ca (Angie) shared with all present:<the whole fascinating theory snipped>
>Kramer from Seinfeld is renting Paul Buchman's (Mad About You)
>old apartment, which made the Seinfeld episode where George and
>the now dearly departed Susan were watching MAY in bed *really*
>surreal. (Not to mention John and Carly doing the same on
>Larroquette in the finale--what is it about MAY and bed?;>)
>Angie
>(I like the idea of the whole network schedule being the product
>of Tommy's imagination; it explains a lot.)
But wait - there's a rent in the NBC-only shared universe: wasn't
there a Seinfeld/Murphy Brown crossover, too? Although there was an
episode in which Murphy acknowledged the existence of Seinfeld on TV,
so perhaps that was just a distortion in the continuum. Then again,
maybe there are two parallel Murphy universes...one of which *is*
Tommy's imagination, and the other which isn't. I wonder which Dan
Quayle fits in...
Melody (who really has been watching far too much Star Trek lately)
Bill Steele
>But wait - there's a rent in the NBC-only shared universe: wasn't
>there a Seinfeld/Murphy Brown crossover, too? Although there was an
>episode in which Murphy acknowledged the existence of Seinfeld on TV,
>so perhaps that was just a distortion in the continuum. Then again,
>maybe there are two parallel Murphy universes...one of which *is*
>Tommy's imagination, and the other which isn't. I wonder which Dan
>Quayle fits in...
But there was also a Murphy Brown episode connecting with the Bob Newhart Show
(the old one, where he was a psychiatrist.) So what did *that* cross with?
Note that we've already established that the other Newhart show was just a
figment of Bob's imagination.
to...@fred.net
Angie (mth...@uwindsor.ca) wrote:
: Kramer from Seinfeld is renting Paul Buchman's (Mad About You)
: old apartment, which made the Seinfeld episode where George and
: the now dearly departed Susan were watching MAY in bed *really*
: surreal. (Not to mention John and Carly doing the same on
: Larroquette in the finale--what is it about MAY and bed?;>)
Um, was it shown to star Helen Hunt and Paul Reisner as Jamie and Paul?
Maybe MAY in the MAY universe has "different actors".
To...@fred.Net
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to...@fred.net
mel...@qnet.com wrote:
:
: But wait - there's a rent in the NBC-only shared universe: wasn't
: there a Seinfeld/Murphy Brown crossover, too? Although there was an
: episode in which Murphy acknowledged the existence of Seinfeld on TV,
: so perhaps that was just a distortion in the continuum. Then again,
: maybe there are two parallel Murphy universes...one of which *is*
: Tommy's imagination, and the other which isn't. I wonder which Dan
: Quayle fits in...
Just don't let DC Comics near it....
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Alan Sepinwall
In article <4o2kic$i...@mandolin.qnet.com>, <mel...@qnet.com> wrote:
>
>But wait - there's a rent in the NBC-only shared universe: wasn't
>there a Seinfeld/Murphy Brown crossover, too? Although there was an
>episode in which Murphy acknowledged the existence of Seinfeld on TV,
>so perhaps that was just a distortion in the continuum. Then again,
>maybe there are two parallel Murphy universes...one of which *is*
>Tommy's imagination, and the other which isn't. I wonder which Dan
>Quayle fits in...
>
though: Kramer guest-starred on an episode of Murphy Brown, which means
its a television show in the Seinfeld universe. But the fact that
Seinfeld is a show in the MB universe makes things far too wacky for words.
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Henry Walter Nunes
Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote:
: To be really anal, and tounge in cheek, one could draw two conclusions:
: 1. No characters on any of these shows can ever be seen watching any of
: these other shows.
: 2. Because the chain of shows listed began with St. Elsewhere, and the
: series finale of St. Elsewhere showed that the whole series was just the
: product of the imagination of an autistic boy, well ...
: Can anybody else think of other shows to add to my chain or any other
: chains of shows like it?
Here's a tricky one:
According to "Homicide: Life On The Street," Chicago Hope is a real
hospital, while "The X-Files" is a TV show on Fridays at 9PM.
On "Picket Fences," Chicago Hope is a real hospital, but so are the
X-files as the XF episode "Red Museam" did continue on a PF episode,
although not to the extent that was originally planned.
Thus, "Homicide," "Chicago Hope," and "Picket Fences" all take place
in the same universe while "The X-files" is, well, and X-file.
Meanwhile, on "Chicago Hope," "ER"rrrrr is not a TV show, but a
competing hospital, which makes sense.
But, alas, they are all TV shows.
hwn.
Alan Sepinwall
In article <4o874l$q...@elaine40.Stanford.EDU>,
Henry Walter Nunes <hwn...@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>
>According to "Homicide: Life On The Street," Chicago Hope is a real
>hospital, while "The X-Files" is a TV show on Fridays at 9PM.
>
>On "Picket Fences," Chicago Hope is a real hospital, but so are the
>X-files as the XF episode "Red Museam" did continue on a PF episode,
>although not to the extent that was originally planned.
>
>Thus, "Homicide," "Chicago Hope," and "Picket Fences" all take place
>in the same universe while "The X-files" is, well, and X-file.
>
>Meanwhile, on "Chicago Hope," "ER"rrrrr is not a TV show, but a
>competing hospital, which makes sense.
It's a floor wax! It's a dessert topping! It's a floorwax AND a dessert
topping! On Chicago Hope, they do compete with Cook County Hospital
(which is a real-life hospital in addition to being the setting of ER),
but at least one of the characters hates going out on Thursday nights
because she likes to stay in and watch "ER".
ObSharedRealities: NYPD Blue and Hill Street Blues may just take place in
the same universe, since homeless vagrant "Buck Naked" has appeared (and
stripped) on both numerous times. Can anybody link either show to any other?
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Henry Walter Nunes
Alan Sepinwall (sepi...@force.stwing.upenn.edu) wrote:
: In article <4o874l$q...@elaine40.Stanford.EDU>,
: Henry Walter Nunes <hwn...@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
: >
: >According to "Homicide: Life On The Street," Chicago Hope is a real
: >hospital, while "The X-Files" is a TV show on Fridays at 9PM.
: >
: >On "Picket Fences," Chicago Hope is a real hospital, but so are the
: >X-files as the XF episode "Red Museam" did continue on a PF episode,
: >although not to the extent that was originally planned.
: >
: >Thus, "Homicide," "Chicago Hope," and "Picket Fences" all take place
: >in the same universe while "The X-files" is, well, and X-file.
: >
: >Meanwhile, on "Chicago Hope," "ER"rrrrr is not a TV show, but a
: >competing hospital, which makes sense.
: On Chicago Hope, they do compete with Cook County Hospital
: (which is a real-life hospital in addition to being the setting of ER),
: but at least one of the characters hates going out on Thursday nights
: because she likes to stay in and watch "ER".
You are correct, which just mucks everything else up.
So, "Homicide," "Chicago Hope," "Picket Fences" and "Law & Order" all
take place in the same Universe while "X-files" and "ER"rrrrr
sometimes do, and sometimes don't. Sheesh.
hwn.
Bell Cecelia
First, let me say that this is the most interesting thread I've seen
in a while.
Here's another oddity: A character and the actor who plays the
character can exist in the same universe.
I belive this happened on Mork and Mindy in an episode where Robin
Williams was in town and Mork was mistaken for him.
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Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote:
: Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
Hey, this is great stuff. This is what I dreamed of when I first
logged on. I had begun to despair.
You should compile everything you get into an article and repost it.
Allen Kirshner
Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) writes:
> Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
> Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and therefore
> All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the same world.
> This got me to thinking about a similar situation. A few doctor
> characters, Dr. Westfall and Dr. Auschlander from St. Elsewhere, once
> appeared on Cheers. Cheers begat Frasier. Frasier and Lilith once
> appeared on Wings. This season, a couple of characters from Frasier made
> cameos on The John Larroquette Show and on Caroline in the City. Caroline
> crossed over to The Single Guy and Friends. Friends has crossed over to
> Mad About You and even Madaman of the People. Also, Phoebe from Friends
> has appeared on Hope and Gloria. Alan Brady, a character from The Dick
> Van Dyke Show has appeared on Mad About You.
>
>
> Can anybody else think of other shows to add to my chain or any other
> chains of shows like it?
>
>
>--How about a couple of obscure additions? Firstly, the short-lived series
"Hello Larry" (it ran a year and a half) crossed over with Diff'rent
Strokes at least twice. Secondly, the Marla Gibbs character, Florence
Johnston, had her own TV series called "Checking In" back in 1981. The show
had 4 episodes air. So, add the long-forgotten and barely known characters
from these shows to the universe.
--
Allen
Allen Kirshner
Henry Walter Nunes (hwn...@leland.Stanford.EDU) writes:
> Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote:
>
> Here's a tricky one:
>
> According to "Homicide: Life On The Street," Chicago Hope is a real
> hospital, while "The X-Files" is a TV show on Fridays at 9PM.
>
> On "Picket Fences," Chicago Hope is a real hospital, but so are the
> X-files as the XF episode "Red Museam" did continue on a PF episode,
> although not to the extent that was originally planned.
>
> Thus, "Homicide," "Chicago Hope," and "Picket Fences" all take place
> in the same universe while "The X-files" is, well, and X-file.
>
> Meanwhile, on "Chicago Hope," "ER"rrrrr is not a TV show, but a
> competing hospital, which makes sense.
>
--Speaking of Homicide: Life On The Street, apparently it and Law and Order
also reside in the same universe, given the two-part crossover episode.
--
Allen
Alice & Steve Lam
In <4o8nhn$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> be...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Allen Kirshner) writes:
>
>
>Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) writes:
>> Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
>> Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and
therefore
world.
>
But then this is kind of messed up. Didn't Carlton always have a
crush on Tootie from Facts of Life and it would make it very surreal.
ncielle
To add a little bit to everyone else's contributions to the thread:
Norm & Cliff from "Cheers" appeared on "Wings" for a supposed fishing
trip on Nantucket but ended up sampling the bars on the island.
David Leach
In article <4o8nhn$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Allen Kirshner,
be...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA writes:
>Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) writes:
>> Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
>> Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and therefore
>> All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the same world.
>>
This offers an interesting twist. If Maude and Diff'rent Strokes are
both taking place in the same tv universe, that means that Conrad Bain
has two characters in the same universe. Phillip Drummond from DS and
the conservative neighbor from Maude. This could make a decent
'character meets his double' plot.
David
Alan Sepinwall
In article <4oag9o$23...@mule2.mindspring.com>,
Well, if you're going to start talking about shared universes where
actors have played more than one role, you'll be here a day. Just to name
a few (and please don't start listing these, too, as I think the original
thrust of this thread is far more interesting): Melissa Leo and Reed
Diamond both appeared on Law & Order, but have also interacted with the
L&O cast during the Homicide/L&O crossover; and half the cast of Hill Street
Blues has shown up on NYPD Blue, which apparently inhabits the same
universe since Buck Naked has appeared on both programs.
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In article <4o8bmu$d...@tombstone.kent.edu>, cb...@Phoenix.kent.edu (Bell
Cecelia ) wrote:
> Here's another oddity: A character and the actor who plays the
> character can exist in the same universe.
> I belive this happened on Mork and Mindy in an episode where Robin
> Williams was in town and Mork was mistaken for him.
Similarly, Alan Thicke, as star of the show Hope and Gloria worked for,
came face to face with Alan Thicke during a Family Ties reunion. They got
into a fight...
Probably the best use of this type of phenomena was in The Bellhop where
Jerry Lewis and Milton Berle met up with you-know-who.
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In <4o8rgf$b...@elaine36.Stanford.EDU>, hwn...@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henry Walter Nunes) writes:
>Alan Sepinwall (sepi...@force.stwing.upenn.edu) wrote:
>: In article <4o874l$q...@elaine40.Stanford.EDU>,
>: Henry Walter Nunes <hwn...@leland.Stanford.EDU> wrote:
>: >
>: >hospital, while "The X-Files" is a TV show on Fridays at 9PM.
>: >
>: >On "Picket Fences," Chicago Hope is a real hospital, but so are the
>: >X-files as the XF episode "Red Museam" did continue on a PF episode,
>: >although not to the extent that was originally planned.
>: >
>: >in the same universe while "The X-files" is, well, and X-file.
>: >
>: >Meanwhile, on "Chicago Hope," "ER"rrrrr is not a TV show, but a
>: >competing hospital, which makes sense.
>
>: (which is a real-life hospital in addition to being the setting of ER),
>: but at least one of the characters hates going out on Thursday nights
>: because she likes to stay in and watch "ER".
>
>You are correct, which just mucks everything else up.
>
>So, "Homicide," "Chicago Hope," "Picket Fences" and "Law & Order" all
>take place in the same Universe while "X-files" and "ER"rrrrr
>sometimes do, and sometimes don't. Sheesh.
I wouldn't expect shows from different networks to share a universe.
So, the shows from all other networks are likely to be just shows
while the shows from the same network are likely to be real (all from
the charachters viewpoint as well). It could get a bit confusing when
shows use real world settings. I know that Chicago Hope and Picket
fences do share (CBS). They also do not share with Law and Order
(NBC). I've never seen Homocide so I don't know where that fits. I
don't know whether X-files is Fox or syndicated so I don't know if it
fits anywhere.
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In article <4oapj6$d...@news2.cts.com> you wrote:
: I wouldn't expect shows from different networks to share a universe.
: So, the shows from all other networks are likely to be just shows
: while the shows from the same network are likely to be real (all from
: the charachters viewpoint as well). It could get a bit confusing when
: shows use real world settings. I know that Chicago Hope and Picket
: fences do share (CBS). They also do not share with Law and Order
: (NBC). I've never seen Homocide so I don't know where that fits. I
: don't know whether X-files is Fox or syndicated so I don't know if it
: fits anywhere.
"The X-files" is on the Fox network.
"Chicago Hope" and "Picket Fences" were created by the same person.
"Chicago Hope," "Picket Fences" and "The X-files" are all produced by
the same company, 20th Century Fox Television.
The executive producers of "Homicide" and "Chicago Hope" both are
friends from their days working on "St. Elsewhere" as
producers/writers.
"Homicide" and "Law & Order" are both on NBC and are both filmed on
the east coast of the USA and the producers dine together when in LA
on business (awards shows, for example).
A character on "Homicide" needed a reason to explain why no one showed
up to a grand opening of a bar on a Friday night at 9PM, and the
writers (or Richard Belzar on an adlib) chose the "X-files"
explanation.
hwn.
Beurge
Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) writes:
>Can anybody else think of other shows to add to my chain or any other
> chains of shows like it?
...And who could forget: Happy Days, Mork and Mindy, Lavern and Shirly,
Joanie loves Chachi...
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In article <4oag9o$23...@mule2.mindspring.com>,
David Leach <c...@mont.mindspring.com> wrote:
>In article <4o8nhn$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Allen Kirshner,
>be...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA writes:
>>Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) writes:
>>> Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
>>> Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and therefore
>>> All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the same
world.
>>>
>
> This offers an interesting twist. If Maude and Diff'rent Strokes are
>both taking place in the same tv universe, that means that Conrad Bain
>has two characters in the same universe. Phillip Drummond from DS and
>the conservative neighbor from Maude. This could make a decent
>'character meets his double' plot.
Easily done, since he's a twin.
Lee S. Bumgarner
Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote:
> Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
> Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and therefore
> All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the same world.
All in the family ---->The Jeffersons
----> Maude?
And actually a few more shows were spin offs from AITF.
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> Here's another oddity: A character and the actor who plays the
> character can exist in the same universe.
> I belive this happened on Mork and Mindy in an episode where Robin
> Williams was in town and Mork was mistaken for him.
Remember, however, that Mork landed in the Happy Daze universe. Thus
Happy Days --> Lavern & Sherly
--> Mork and Mendy
--> Joni Loves Chachy (sp)
Stewart Shutler
Lee S. Bumgarner (bumg...@falcon.jmu.edu) wrote:
: Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote:
: > Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
: > Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and therefore
: > All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the same world.
: All in the family ---->The Jeffersons
: ----> Maude?
:
: And actually a few more shows were spin offs from AITF.
Maude was Edith's cousin. I think Gloria was the only other spin-off of
AITF. Archie Bunker's Place could probably be considered a sequel.
Stewart. (This is my first major post to any newsgroup and it is so cool
that I got so many responses.)
--
Stewart Shutler
: > character can exist in the same universe.
: > I belive this happened on Mork and Mindy in an episode where Robin
: > Williams was in town and Mork was mistaken for him.
: Remember, however, that Mork landed in the Happy Daze universe. Thus
: Happy Days --> Lavern & Sherly
: --> Mork and Mendy
: --> Joni Loves Chachy (sp)
There was also an angel character from a short-lived show that was on at
the time, who made a short appearance one time. I think it was called Out
of the Blue. There was also a short-lived spin-off called Pinky about
Pinky Tuscadero.
Stewart. (Still loving the all responses I got from my original post.)
--
mel...@qnet.com
>: >Thus, "Homicide," "Chicago Hope," and "Picket Fences" all take place
>: >in the same universe while "The X-files" is, well, and X-file.
>: >
>: >Meanwhile, on "Chicago Hope," "ER"rrrrr is not a TV show, but a
>: >competing hospital, which makes sense.
>: On Chicago Hope, they do compete with Cook County Hospital
>: (which is a real-life hospital in addition to being the setting of ER),
>: but at least one of the characters hates going out on Thursday nights
>: because she likes to stay in and watch "ER".
>You are correct, which just mucks everything else up.
Sounds like the ER CCH is Schroedinger's Hospital.
I hate to bring this up, but CCH was also central to the plot of the
film version of the Fugitive, which somehow links into the TV series
The Fugitive, which means that CCH is either a real hospital in all...
oy, never mind, I'm giving myself a headache.
mel...@qnet.com
On this notable date in history Sat, 25 May 96 02:25:13 GMT,
ws...@cornell.edu (Bill Steele) shared with all present:
>But there was also a Murphy Brown episode connecting with the Bob Newhart Show
>(the old one, where he was a psychiatrist.) So what did *that* cross with?
>Note that we've already established that the other Newhart show was just a
>figment of Bob's imagination.
Wasn't there also an episode of St Elsewhere with the curmudgeon
character from the original Bob Newhart show - the grumpy fellow who
was in Dr Hartley's group (Mr Carlin? Something like that? Sorry,
guys, I haven't seen this show since it ran the first time)? Also, I
seem to recall another psychotic St E character thinking he was Mary
Richards.
Okay, so did the St Elsewhere dream universe exist within Bob
Hartley's dream, or the other way around, thereby taking in the
Newhart universe, and heaven knows what else...
MC
Karen L Lingel
In article <4o8bmu$d...@tombstone.kent.edu>, cb...@Phoenix.kent.edu (Bell Cecelia ) writes:
>Here's another oddity: A character and the actor who plays the
>character can exist in the same universe.
Oooh, this happened on Hope and Gloria, where Dennis Dupree had
a terrible feud going with Alan Thicke. And a fist fight, I believe.
-k-
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PMA082267
Just to add to the confusion, Jack Riley, who played the cranky Mr. Carlin
on "The Bob Newhart Show" did indeed play a character in the psychiatric
ward named "Mr. Carlin" on several episodes of "St. Elsewhere" (just
another in-joke). In the episode you're thinking of, another psychiatric
patient, "John Doe #2", gets the idea that he's Mary Richards when he and
Mr. Carlin are watching "MTM" on the TV. Also, when Mr. Carlin is
changing channels (of course he has control of the remote), he goes by
"The White Shadow" and mentions that the guy who came up with this show
sure had his act together. That guy was Bruce Paltrow, who was also "St.
Elsewhere"'s executive producer. Paltrow must have liked "The White
Shadow" so much that Warren Coolidge from that show became a regular
character on "St. Elsewhere" as an orderly.
So, from this we can conclude that in "St. Elsewhere"'s universe 1) "The
Bob Newhart Show" was real; 2) "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was a TV show;
and 3) "The White Shadow" was real *and* a TV show. This is really
confusing, but Tommy Westphall was a confused little autistic boy, so
maybe that explains it.
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Aaron Zober
> : > Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
> : > Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and therefore
> : > All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the same world.
>
> : All in the family ---->The Jeffersons
> : ----> Maude?
> :
> : And actually a few more shows were spin offs from AITF.
>
> Maude was Edith's cousin. I think Gloria was the only other spin-off of
> AITF. Archie Bunker's Place could probably be considered a sequel.
There also was a spin-off of the Jeffersons called Checking In which
featured the Jeffersons' maid. A couple years ago there was a show 704
Hauser, about a conservative black family that moved into Archie's old
house. I'm not sure if this would be considered a spin-off.
Aaron Zober
PMA082267
I'm going to post this one more time. Let's see if it sticks.
mel...@qnet.com wrote:
>On this notable date in history Sat, 25 May 96 02:25:13 GMT,
>ws...@cornell.edu (Bill Steele) shared with all present:
>
>>But there was also a Murphy Brown episode connecting with the Bob
Newhart Show
>>(the old one, where he was a psychiatrist.) So what did *that* cross
with?
>>Note that we've already established that the other Newhart show was just
a
>>figment of Bob's imagination.
>
>Wasn't there also an episode of St Elsewhere with the curmudgeon
>character from the original Bob Newhart show - the grumpy fellow who
>was in Dr Hartley's group (Mr Carlin? Something like that? Sorry,
>guys, I haven't seen this show since it ran the first time)? Also, I
>seem to recall another psychotic St E character thinking he was Mary
>Richards.
>
>Okay, so did the St Elsewhere dream universe exist within Bob
>Hartley's dream, or the other way around, thereby taking in the
>Newhart universe, and heaven knows what else...
Be prepared to be confused. Jack Riley, who played Mr. Carlin on the Bob
Newhart Show, also played a pychiatric patient named Mr. Carlin on several
episodes of St. Elsewhere (one of many St. Elsewhere in-jokes). In one
episode Mr. Carlin is watching TV with John Doe #2, a psych patient who
has amnesia. While channel surfing, they come across The Mary Tyler Moore
Show, which give J.D. #2 the idea that he's Mary Richards. Before that
they flipped by The White Shadow. So you would think that in the St.
Elsewhere universe, The Bob Newhart Show is real and The Mary Tyler Moore
Show and the White Shadow are TV shows. But, Warren Coolidge, a character
from The White Shadow, appears on St. Elsewhere, portrayed by the same
actor, thereby implying that The White Shadow was real. I have to stop
now. I'm getting wicked dizzy just thinking about this.
PMA082267
mel...@qnet.com wrote:
>On this notable date in history Sat, 25 May 96 02:25:13 GMT,
>ws...@cornell.edu (Bill Steele) shared with all present:
>
>>But there was also a Murphy Brown episode connecting with the Bob
Newhart Show
>>(the old one, where he was a psychiatrist.) So what did *that* cross
with?
>>Note that we've already established that the other Newhart show was just
a
>>figment of Bob's imagination.
>
>Wasn't there also an episode of St Elsewhere with the curmudgeon
>character from the original Bob Newhart show - the grumpy fellow who
>was in Dr Hartley's group (Mr Carlin? Something like that? Sorry,
>guys, I haven't seen this show since it ran the first time)? Also, I
>seem to recall another psychotic St E character thinking he was Mary
>Richards.
>
>Okay, so did the St Elsewhere dream universe exist within Bob
>Hartley's dream, or the other way around, thereby taking in the
>Newhart universe, and heaven knows what else...
Be prepared to be confused. Jack Riley, who played Mr. Carlin on the Bob
Newhart Show, also played a pychiatric patient named Mr. Carlin on several
episodes of St. Elsewhere (one of many St. Elsewhere in-jokes). In one
episode Mr. Carlie #2, a psych patient who has amnesia. While channel
surfing, they come across The Mary Tyler Moore Show, which gives J.D. #2
Dedi Shy
Bell Cecelia wrote:
: Here's another oddity: A character and the actor who plays the
: character can exist in the same universe.
: I belive this happened on Mork and Mindy in an episode where Robin
: Williams was in town and Mork was mistaken for him.
I also recall that MWC's Al Bundy, played by Ed O'niel, once complained
about the movie "Dutch", in which Ed O'niel stars.
Larry Bromley
After reading 18 posts, I can't believe you all missed two examples that
aired in sweeps period.
First: The Hurricane.
On Golden Girls, there is a warning about a coming storm, with at least
one Empty Nest person.
On Empty Nest, the storm gets closer, with GG cameos and (I think)
someone from Nurses.
On Nurses, we see the storm hit, and it's aftermath, with Betty White
from GG.
The common thread here was a weatherman from WTVJ in Miami, Brian
Norcross, who was hailed as the most reliable concerning Hurricane
Andrew. NBC did a movie featuring his character, played by Ted Wass.
Next is Blackout. Mad About You, Friends, and one other show shared the
NYC blackout although Seinfeld refused to participate.
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and six hours later it still hasn't posted, for some wacky reason you tend
the figure the damn thing has vanished into cyberspace. Damn the AOL
Gateway server!!
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chicago hope and picket fences had a crossover.
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pma0...@aol.com (PMA082267) writes:
> But, Warren Coolidge, a character from The White Shadow,
>appears on St. Elsewhere, portrayed by the same actor, thereby implying
>that The White Shadow was real. I have to stop now. I m getting wicked
>dizzy just thinking about this.
>
On the White Shadow -- "Warren" played a HS basketball player and his
coach was a former Boston College student/athlete.
I remember a scene where "Warren" explains to "Luther" that he played
basketball at Boston College- on the recomdation of his coach- and blew
out his knee and that's why he was working at St Eligius.
And there was also a scene where he meets one of his former classmates
(Timothy Van Patten aka Salami) and the classmate denies being him.
Warren: "Hey Salami -- it's me Coolidge"
Salami:"I don't know what you're talking about - you got the wrong guy"
---
Somebody tell the IRS there is nothing gross about income.
mel...@qnet.com
On this notable date in history 28 May 1996 14:51:41 -0400,
pma0...@aol.com (PMA082267) shared with all present:
>Be prepared to be confused. Jack Riley, who played Mr. Carlin on the Bob
>Newhart Show, also played a pychiatric patient named Mr. Carlin on several
>episodes of St. Elsewhere (one of many St. Elsewhere in-jokes). In one
>episode Mr. Carlin is watching TV with John Doe #2, a psych patient who
>has amnesia. While channel surfing, they come across The Mary Tyler Moore
>Show, which give J.D. #2 the idea that he's Mary Richards. Before that
>they flipped by The White Shadow. So you would think that in the St.
>Elsewhere universe, The Bob Newhart Show is real and The Mary Tyler Moore
>Show and the White Shadow are TV shows. But, Warren Coolidge, a character
>from The White Shadow, appears on St. Elsewhere, portrayed by the same
>actor, thereby implying that The White Shadow was real. I have to stop
>now. I'm getting wicked dizzy just thinking about this.
Okay, but St Elsewhere is Tommy's dream, so I wonder if Tommy is Bob
Newhart's dream? Or...oh, ghod, is anybody keeping a scorecard on
this?
MC
"Don't mock me. You wouldn't understand. You're spayed."
Richard, Caroline in the City
Stewart Shutler
Aaron Zober (zm...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Aaron Zober
I forgot about 704 Hauser. I don't know if it would technically be called
a "spin-off", but it is definitely within the same universe. So this
particular chain is Fresh Prince, Diff'rent Strokes, Facts of Life, Hello
Larry, Jeffersons, All in the Family, Checking In, Gloria, Maude, Good
Times, and 704 Hauser.
That's almost as long as the one with Friends, Cheers, St. Elsewhere,
etc., that I mentioned in my original post.
Stewart.
--
Stewart Shutler
Larry Bromley (a002...@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us) wrote:
: First: The Hurricane.
: On Golden Girls, there is a warning about a coming storm, with at least
: one Empty Nest person.
: On Empty Nest, the storm gets closer, with GG cameos and (I think)
: someone from Nurses.
: On Nurses, we see the storm hit, and it's aftermath, with Betty White
: from GG.
: The common thread here was a weatherman from WTVJ in Miami, Brian
: Norcross, who was hailed as the most reliable concerning Hurricane
: Andrew. NBC did a movie featuring his character, played by Ted Wass.
I was going to mention this in my original post but I thought it was too
long as it was. They also connected these three one other nigght with a
full moon theme. There were all on NBC on Saturday, and they've also done
that with their Thursday night shows as you said. I'm kind of surprised
ABC has never done a TGIF theme night. (Not that I would watch it.)
Stewart.
--
Aaron Zober
Stewart Shutler wrote:
>
> I was going to mention this in my original post but I thought it was too
> long as it was. They also connected these three one other nigght with a
> full moon theme. There were all on NBC on Saturday, and they've also done
> that with their Thursday night shows as you said. I'm kind of surprised
> ABC has never done a TGIF theme night. (Not that I would watch it.)
I have seen the ABC TGIF line up maybe one or two times (I don't care for
the shows either), but I do remember an episode of Family Matters, where
Urkel builds a rocket pack to fly. At the end of the episode, he ends up
in the home of the Step by Step family. The Step by Step episode that
followed dealed with him landing in their house.
Aaron Zober
Karen Beattie
I haven't read all the messages on this thread so this might have been
mentioned already... I think it was on a Mad About You episode that Carl
Reiner appeared as Alan Brady. The character he played on the Dick Van Dyke
show.
Jael McHenry
During that massive crossover night that NBC had earlier this year, Lea
Thompson appeared on Friends, but it wasn't clear whether or not she was
playing Caroline Duffy. David Schwimmer appeared on The Single Guy as
Ross... but last year Jonathan Silverman had appeared on Friends as a
doctor (not as Jonathan Elliot, his character on TSG.) So they're not
even consistent within shows. In cross-network switching, the actress who
plays "Stacey" on Ned & Stacey appeared a couple of weeks ago as the wife
in the marriage that Elaine & Jerry were "waiting out."
Star Trek: Voyager actors seem to have some attachment to medical shows,
as "Neelix" appeared on Chicago Hope (not in character, for heaven's
sake) and the "Doctor" appeared on ER. Both excellent performances, by
the way.
Jael
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Distribution:
Aaron Zober (zm...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
: Aaron Zober
Also, I just remembered that Family Matters was originally a spin-off of
Perfect Strangers, so that's three shows that are linked.
Stewart.
--
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On (27 May 96) Lee S. Bumgarner wrote to All...
LS> From: bumg...@falcon.jmu.edu (Lee S. Bumgarner)
LS> Stewart Shutler (ae...@freenet.hamilton.on.ca) wrote:
> Well, the Fresh Prince season finale has established that Different
> Strokes (and therefore Facts of Life) and The Jeffersons (and
LS> therefore
> All in the Family, Maude, and Good Times) all take place in the same
LS> world.
LS> All in the family ---->The Jeffersons
LS> ----> Maude?
LS> And actually a few more shows were spin offs from AITF.
Let's see if the following AITF family/spinoff tree works in ASCII:
ALL IN THE FAMILY
(1970/CBS, though a 1968 pilot was tested for ABC)********ARCHIE BUNKER'S PLACE
* * * (1977?)
* * *
* * *
* JEFFERSONS GLORIA
* (1975) (1982)
*
MAUDE
(1972?)
*
*
*
GOOD TIMES
(1973)
I didn't count the 1993 show since (a) there was only a tenuous connection
to AITF and (b) I ran out of room.
glw
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Aaron Zober
Stewart Shutler wrote:
>
> : I have seen the ABC TGIF line up maybe one or two times (I don't care for
> : the shows either), but I do remember an episode of Family Matters, where
> : Urkel builds a rocket pack to fly. At the end of the episode, he ends up
> : in the home of the Step by Step family. The Step by Step episode that
> : followed dealed with him landing in their house.
>
> : Aaron Zober
>
> Also, I just remembered that Family Matters was originally a spin-off of
> Perfect Strangers, so that's three shows that are linked.
I also remember Urkel appearing on Full House.
Aaron Zober
Cole Odell
pma0...@aol.com (PMA082267) wrote:
>So, from this we can conclude that in "St. Elsewhere"'s universe 1) "The
>Bob Newhart Show" was real; 2) "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was a TV show;
>and 3) "The White Shadow" was real *and* a TV show. This is really
>confusing, but Tommy Westphall was a confused little autistic boy, so
>maybe that explains it.
>
>**********Patricia Annino**********
Not only that, but there's the episode wherein Drs. Craig, Auschlander,
and Westphall go down to Cheers for a beer, are insulted by Carla, and
bugged by Cliff.
BTW, didn't John Doe #2 pass Betty White in the hallway and mistake her
for the character she played on MTM?
Cole Odell
Jael McHenry
Oh --- this just occurred to me --
Friends and The Single Guy have an internally inconsistent universe.
David Schwimmer appeared on The Single Guy as Ross. This made me think
they're consistent (if you overlook the appearance of Jonathan Silverman
before he got his own show) but with the fundamental problem of Jessica
Hecht playing a sharp-witted lesbian on Friends and a gentle-souled
heterosexual female (married with baby) on The Single Guy. Oops.
Just thought I'd mention it since I haven't seen anyone else do so.
jael
PMA082267
In a message dated 96-05-30 09:43:49 EDT, you write:
>pma0...@aol.com (PMA082267) wrote:
>
>>So, from this we can conclude that in "St. Elsewhere"'s universe 1) "The
>>Bob Newhart Show" was real; 2) "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" was a TV
show;
>>and 3) "The White Shadow" was real *and* a TV show. This is really
>>confusing, but Tommy Westphall was a confused little autistic boy, so
>>maybe that explains it.
>>
>>**********Patricia Annino**********
>
>
>Not only that, but there's the episode wherein Drs. Craig, Auschlander,
>and Westphall go down to Cheers for a beer, are insulted by Carla, and
>bugged by Cliff.
>
But wait, there's more. In the second season of Cheers, Carla has her
baby at St. Eligius. So Cheers and St. Elsewhere existed in the same
Boston in some parallel universe. I grew up just outside of Boston, but
obviously in a different universe (at least I think so).
>BTW, didn't John Doe #2 pass Betty White in the hallway and mistake her
>for the character she played on MTM?
Yep, as John Doe passes Betty White's character he exclaims, "Sue Ann!
Sue Ann Niven, the Happy Homemaker" and Betty's character claims that he
must be mistaken. Damn, I miss those great St. Elsewhere in-jokes. Those
guys were the masters!!
Mordea
Dedi Shy (sh...@post.tau.ac.il) wrote:
: I also recall that MWC's Al Bundy, played by Ed O'niel, once complained
: about the movie "Dutch", in which Ed O'niel stars.
I seem to remember Suzanne Sommer(sp?) on "Step by Step" refering to
the Crisey (or whatever) charecter that she on "Three's Company".
Mordea
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Perhaps she was playing twins, or just dopplegangers.
Swampthing
It was interesting to see that in the last episode of THE FRESH PRINCE, we saw
characters from DIFF'RENT STROKES and THE JEFFERSONS. In fact, it was THE
JEFFERSONS that ended up purchasing their extravagant Bel-Air mansion.
DIFF'RENT STROKES seemed a bit odd as my recollection from the series final
episodes was that Drummond married someone, and by now (12 years after the
series concluded) Willis and Arnold should have moved out and been living on
their own.
I should add that DIFF'RENT STROKES also crossed into HELLO, LARRY when
Drummond bought the radio station that Larry Adler worked for...
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On 26-May-96 16:12:26, Alan Sepinwall (sepi...@force.stwing.upenn.edu)
scribbled:
>Well, if you're going to start talking about shared universes where
>actors have played more than one role, you'll be here a day.
Not to digress too far, but I always thought it was hilarious that after
Dennis Franz played a dirty son of a bitch cop on HILL STREET BLUES who ended
up killing himself, he later showed up later as Detective Norman Buntz! This
gets even more amusing if you place HILL STREET BLUES in the same universe as
NYPD BLUE. Then we really have to ask ourselves... just which character is
Dennis Franz reeaally playing?? ;D
Lee S. Bumgarner
> Sounds like the ER CCH is Schroedinger's Hospital.
> I hate to bring this up, but CCH was also central to the plot of the
> film version of the Fugitive, which somehow links into the TV series
> The Fugitive, which means that CCH is either a real hospital in all...
> oy, never mind, I'm giving myself a headache.
There is a scene in Saint Elsewhere where two people are talking and
you can overhear "Paging Dr. Kembal, Dr. Richard Kimbal" or whatever
the Futitive's real name was.
-l
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Lee S. Bumgarner
> I forgot about 704 Hauser. I don't know if it would technically be called
> a "spin-off", but it is definitely within the same universe. So this
> particular chain is Fresh Prince, Diff'rent Strokes, Facts of Life, Hello
Can someone PLEASE tell me what happened in the Fresh Prince Season Final
that proved all these shows were in the same universe?
-l
please CC answer
Lee S. Bumgarner
> ALL IN THE FAMILY
> (1970/CBS, though a 1968 pilot was tested for ABC)********ARCHIE BUNKER'S PLACE
> * * * (1977?)
> * * *
> * * *
> * JEFFERSONS GLORIA
> * (1975) (1982)
> *
> MAUDE
> (1972?)
> *
> *
> *
> GOOD TIMES
> (1973)
I was waiting for someone to do that. Could you do Freshprince, Diff'erent
Strokes universe as well? This is awful fun.
-l
now if we could connect AITF with Bob Newhart....
Lee S. Bumgarner
> David Schwimmer appeared on The Single Guy as Ross. This made me think
> they're consistent (if you overlook the appearance of Jonathan Silverman
> before he got his own show) but with the fundamental problem of Jessica
> Hecht playing a sharp-witted lesbian on Friends and a gentle-souled
> heterosexual female (married with baby) on The Single Guy. Oops.
Jessica Hecht is HOT! I would watch those shows only for her, man.
8-)
-l
Stewart Shutler
: > particular chain is Fresh Prince, Diff'rent Strokes, Facts of Life, Hello
: Can someone PLEASE tell me what happened in the Fresh Prince Season Final
: that proved all these shows were in the same universe?
: -l
: please CC answer
The Banks family was moving out of their house but Will didn't want to
leave so he was he was shown trying to scare a few of the buyers off,
like Arnold and Mr. Drummond from Diff'rent Strokes (although it is kind
of weird that they would still be living together) and George, "Weezy",
and Florence from The Jeffersons. IIt could have just been done as
throwaway tongue-in-cheek cameos, but they said at the end of the show
that The Jeffersons had taken the house and would be moving in soon.
Stewart.
--
Rick Hodge
In reading these posts here's an unusual one I just thought of.
In one of the episodes of the "Batman" TV show, Batman and Robin are
doing one of their usual Bat-rope climbs and they pass by a window and
who looks out? Werner Klemperer as Colonel Klink from "Hogan's
Heroes". They speak for a moment (it's been so long since I've seen
this that I don't remember the details) and Batman at the end says,
"Give our regards to Colonel Hogan" and Klink says something along the
lines of, "At least he doesn't use a Bat-rope!". I believe that the
villain in this episode was Shame. What do you think of this one?
Also there is the famous "Superman"-"I Love Lucy" crossover. In
the words of George Reeves, "...And they call ME Superman".
regards,
Rick Hodge
"See the dizzy spell. I would like a dizzy spell, too."
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let him learn how to kick like everyone else."
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Helen Rapozo
In article <4pgirk$a...@ralph.vnet.net> ric...@vnet.net writes:
> Also there is the famous "Superman"-"I Love Lucy" crossover. In
>the words of George Reeves, "...And they call ME Superman".
>
"funnist TV moment" followup. Ricky got George Reeves to appear
at the son's birthday party but Lucy who tried to dress up as
Superman got stuck outside. George comes in and saves Lucy. At
this point Ricky get mad and says:
"In the nine years we have been married this got to be the most
idiotic thing you have ever did".
George says: "Wait you have been married to her for nine years?"
Ricky says: "Yeah.."
George says: "And they call ME Superman!"
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Dixon Hayes
Helen Rapozo wrote:
>
> >Also there is the famous "Superman"-"I Love Lucy" crossover. In
> >the words of George Reeves, "...And they call ME Superman".
> >
> It's not a "shared TV Universes" followup but rather a
> "funnist TV moment" followup. Ricky got George Reeves to appear
> at the son's birthday party but Lucy who tried to dress up as
> Superman got stuck outside. George comes in and saves Lucy.
But wasn't there an episode of "The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour", in which
Danny Thomas played his "Danny Williams" character from "Make Room for
Daddy" And since Danny Williams got pulled over in Mayberry by
Sheriff Taylor (pilot for "Andy Griffith Show"), that would put Danny,
his family, Lucy, Ricky, Little Ricky, the Mertzes, Andy Taylor and
Opie all in the same universe!
--Dixon Hayes
P.S. I'm new to this thread. Pardon me if this has been addressed.
Gary Warren
On (16 Jun 96) Dixon Hayes wrote to All...
DH> But wasn't there an episode of "The Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour", in which
DH> Danny Thomas played his "Danny Williams" character from "Make Room for
DH> Daddy" And since Danny Williams got pulled over in Mayberry by
DH> Sheriff Taylor (pilot for "Andy Griffith Show"), that would put Danny,
DH> his family, Lucy, Ricky, Little Ricky, the Mertzes, Andy Taylor and
DH> Opie all in the same universe!
In terms of this thread, there was a two-parter involving MARCUS WELBY, MD
and OWEN MARSHALL, COUNSELOR AT LAW. And I vaguely remember (incorrectly?)
a storyline in the late 60's with two ABC afternoon soaps, THE EDGE OF NIGHT
and GENERAL HOSPITAL.
glw
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> the fundamental problem of Jessica
> Hecht playing a sharp-witted lesbian on Friends and a gentle-souled
> heterosexual female (married with baby) on The Single Guy. Oops.
>
>
> jael
We could just assume that these are coincidental lookalikes whenever major conflicts like this arise. That, or come up with theories about Hecht portraying a character with multiple personalities (perhaps created by suppressed lesbianism?).
The Cheers/Frasier issue will ever be especially problematic for Frasier's lack of recognizing his own dad, though. Meh.