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Obveeus
Oct 6, 2012, 11:41:34 AM10/6/12
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On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game
playoff, I watched:
GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
message. The fight scenes employed 'fast forward' video and I never did
figure out who supposedly fired the first shot that killed the first 'bad
guy'. Meanwhile, one of the bad guys never did morph into a Wessen, so was
this a regular human working as the snake's sidekick? Nick/Hank are lousy
policemen as the entire setup for the episode was them plotting to catch the
bigwig behind it all, but when the bigwig surfaces, they chase everyone but
her, so she escapes. The Prince catches up with her, though, and if she is
sending messages about how none of the Wessen should be working with this
Grimm, shouldn't the Prince be killing her? In her earlier dialog with him,
she almost dared him to kill her. Tune in next time to see if it happens.
Meanwhile, that bus ride out of town had an eerily permanent feel to it.
What did you watch?
playoff, I watched:
GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
message. The fight scenes employed 'fast forward' video and I never did
figure out who supposedly fired the first shot that killed the first 'bad
guy'. Meanwhile, one of the bad guys never did morph into a Wessen, so was
this a regular human working as the snake's sidekick? Nick/Hank are lousy
policemen as the entire setup for the episode was them plotting to catch the
bigwig behind it all, but when the bigwig surfaces, they chase everyone but
her, so she escapes. The Prince catches up with her, though, and if she is
sending messages about how none of the Wessen should be working with this
Grimm, shouldn't the Prince be killing her? In her earlier dialog with him,
she almost dared him to kill her. Tune in next time to see if it happens.
Meanwhile, that bus ride out of town had an eerily permanent feel to it.
What did you watch?
Ian J. Ball
Oct 6, 2012, 1:00:04 PM10/6/12
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In article <k4pjfe$a2s$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:
> What did you watch?
I had to go into work, which ate up a good part of the day (no soaps for
me yesterday... :( ), so I did a fair amount of DVR catch-up:
Hollywood Heights (recorded) - The last two episodes.
Overall, this was as highly a disappointing finale as you might have
expected... >:/
First, not only do Phil and Adriana not get punished, but they
actually get a happy ending!?!!???! Ugh. >:S (However, Haley King
reminds us why she's there, with a couple more humorous scenes at the
end - one mistake this series made was probably not uncorking King more,
and allowing Adriana to be full-on comedy relief most of the time...)
In fact, the only person who gets a (deserved) unhappy ending is
Merrin Dungey! (wha...?!)
Chloe also gets an unhappy ending, I guess (she end up alone, and
presumably without a career), but she doesn't get sent to jail, which
was my absolute *bare minimum* for an acceptable ending to this series.
[grinding teeth]
Hell, even Tyler The Awful Actor gets an undeserved "happy ending"
when James Franco's Oz Silver gets sprung from jail and wants to do a
project with Tyler. WTF??!!!
And Danielle Savre the kidnapper is rewarded at the end too!
(And I wont even go in to what happened with Loren and Eddie, et al.,
'cos at this point it's redundant... :/ )
That is not to say there weren't a few good nuggets buried in these
last two episodes - there were a number of good scenes with Jackie
(Chloe's Mom), both with Tyler, and esp. the scene where Jackie finally
tells Chloe that her life has been a complete bust. (Daphne Ashbrook,
who played Jackie, is an actress who's been around for years, and is
probably under-appreciated - I wonder if she'll get more jobs out of
this...) Also, the scene between Nora and Loren's absentee Dad, and then
between Loren and Loren's Dad, were also quite good.
In fact, if anyone deserves more jobs out of this mess, it's probably
Jama Williamson, who played Nora - hopefully, she'll get more gigs out
of this. (I'm not too worried about Brittany Underwood, Haley King or
Melissa Ordaway getting more work - that's pretty much guaranteed.)
But, bottom line: Icebreaker was right - they could have done what
they did here in *half* the time (8 weeks), and this show would have
been much, much better for it.
If anyone (anyone?... anyone?... [echoing] ) cares, TeenNICK will
apparently be rerunning this from the beginning, starting next week.
Personally, once through this was enough, and I'll be skipping the
reruns... :/
Fringe (recorded) - The 5h season premiere.
I'll be brutally honest here: I found the "parallel universe"
storyline of previous "Fringe" seasons to be *much* more compelling than
this budding "Future War" storyline, so I'm guessing I'm not going to
care much for this final season of "Fringe".
That said, as long as they keep gorgeous Aussie actress Georgina Haig
around in this final season, I'll keep coming back for more! ;p
CSI:NY - I love how this episode with Rob Morrow had *almost nothing* to
do with the just preceding episode with Rob Morrow - he might as well
have been playing a completely different character!! Anyway, Morrow
kills some people, and then takes Cara Pifko hostage with the intention
of torching her - look, I hated the Canadian TV series, "Our Hero", as
much as anyone, but Pifko doesn't deserve that fate!! ;)
But gorgeous Natalie Martinez shows up as Flack's new parter - I hope
they have lots of her, and add her as a full cast member next season!
:)
Made In Jersey - A very LARGE step down from the pilot, unfortunately.
Gone are Pablo Schreiber and Stephanie March from the pilot, replaced by
Kristoffer Polaha and Megalyn Echikunwoke(!?!). The Schreiber/Polaha
trade is probably break-even-to-slightly-negative, but it doesn't take a
genius to figure out that the Echikunwoke-for-March trade is bad, bad
news. In addition, the case was a lot less compelling this week. And
Martina was more mannered, and less clever. And the "family" storyline
was her sister (Erin Cummings) having an annoying boyfriend. Meh.
These guys need to do a lot better than this... :/
Blue Bloods - Richard Burgi shows up as a city councilman suspected by
Danny and Jackie of slapping around his (ex-stripper?) girlfriend. The
problem? Burgi is also the same City Councilman who trying to help Tom
Selleck avoid budget cuts. Oops. Meanwhile, Danny's wife Linda goes back
to work as a nurse, and intersects Danny's case. Decent episode.
Recorded for later: My Babysitter's a Vampire, and Fringe.
--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!
wrote:
> What did you watch?
I had to go into work, which ate up a good part of the day (no soaps for
me yesterday... :( ), so I did a fair amount of DVR catch-up:
Hollywood Heights (recorded) - The last two episodes.
Overall, this was as highly a disappointing finale as you might have
expected... >:/
First, not only do Phil and Adriana not get punished, but they
actually get a happy ending!?!!???! Ugh. >:S (However, Haley King
reminds us why she's there, with a couple more humorous scenes at the
end - one mistake this series made was probably not uncorking King more,
and allowing Adriana to be full-on comedy relief most of the time...)
In fact, the only person who gets a (deserved) unhappy ending is
Merrin Dungey! (wha...?!)
Chloe also gets an unhappy ending, I guess (she end up alone, and
presumably without a career), but she doesn't get sent to jail, which
was my absolute *bare minimum* for an acceptable ending to this series.
[grinding teeth]
Hell, even Tyler The Awful Actor gets an undeserved "happy ending"
when James Franco's Oz Silver gets sprung from jail and wants to do a
project with Tyler. WTF??!!!
And Danielle Savre the kidnapper is rewarded at the end too!
(And I wont even go in to what happened with Loren and Eddie, et al.,
'cos at this point it's redundant... :/ )
That is not to say there weren't a few good nuggets buried in these
last two episodes - there were a number of good scenes with Jackie
(Chloe's Mom), both with Tyler, and esp. the scene where Jackie finally
tells Chloe that her life has been a complete bust. (Daphne Ashbrook,
who played Jackie, is an actress who's been around for years, and is
probably under-appreciated - I wonder if she'll get more jobs out of
this...) Also, the scene between Nora and Loren's absentee Dad, and then
between Loren and Loren's Dad, were also quite good.
In fact, if anyone deserves more jobs out of this mess, it's probably
Jama Williamson, who played Nora - hopefully, she'll get more gigs out
of this. (I'm not too worried about Brittany Underwood, Haley King or
Melissa Ordaway getting more work - that's pretty much guaranteed.)
But, bottom line: Icebreaker was right - they could have done what
they did here in *half* the time (8 weeks), and this show would have
been much, much better for it.
If anyone (anyone?... anyone?... [echoing] ) cares, TeenNICK will
apparently be rerunning this from the beginning, starting next week.
Personally, once through this was enough, and I'll be skipping the
reruns... :/
Fringe (recorded) - The 5h season premiere.
I'll be brutally honest here: I found the "parallel universe"
storyline of previous "Fringe" seasons to be *much* more compelling than
this budding "Future War" storyline, so I'm guessing I'm not going to
care much for this final season of "Fringe".
That said, as long as they keep gorgeous Aussie actress Georgina Haig
around in this final season, I'll keep coming back for more! ;p
CSI:NY - I love how this episode with Rob Morrow had *almost nothing* to
do with the just preceding episode with Rob Morrow - he might as well
have been playing a completely different character!! Anyway, Morrow
kills some people, and then takes Cara Pifko hostage with the intention
of torching her - look, I hated the Canadian TV series, "Our Hero", as
much as anyone, but Pifko doesn't deserve that fate!! ;)
But gorgeous Natalie Martinez shows up as Flack's new parter - I hope
they have lots of her, and add her as a full cast member next season!
:)
Made In Jersey - A very LARGE step down from the pilot, unfortunately.
Gone are Pablo Schreiber and Stephanie March from the pilot, replaced by
Kristoffer Polaha and Megalyn Echikunwoke(!?!). The Schreiber/Polaha
trade is probably break-even-to-slightly-negative, but it doesn't take a
genius to figure out that the Echikunwoke-for-March trade is bad, bad
news. In addition, the case was a lot less compelling this week. And
Martina was more mannered, and less clever. And the "family" storyline
was her sister (Erin Cummings) having an annoying boyfriend. Meh.
These guys need to do a lot better than this... :/
Blue Bloods - Richard Burgi shows up as a city councilman suspected by
Danny and Jackie of slapping around his (ex-stripper?) girlfriend. The
problem? Burgi is also the same City Councilman who trying to help Tom
Selleck avoid budget cuts. Oops. Meanwhile, Danny's wife Linda goes back
to work as a nurse, and intersects Danny's case. Decent episode.
Recorded for later: My Babysitter's a Vampire, and Fringe.
--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!
Mason Barge
Oct 6, 2012, 1:23:01 PM10/6/12
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FRINGE - Just too much of Abram's direction-changing. I still watch it
but it's kind of boring.
Grade: C
I watched a lot of other "Grade C" stuff that I just don't care about,
such as Hell on Wheels, The Monster Inside Me (I guess they've run out of
outlandish parasites so this week we got e. coli and bubonic plague
infections).
Once Upon a Time -
This is getting a bit old, too, but it's still alive. Sarah
Bolger was a terrific addition to the cast. They are fighting to keep a
viable season arc alive now that the magic is back -- Henry controlling
the Queen with his affections isn't strong. I liked the wraithe, though!
Very scary.
Grade: B
RED RIDING HOOD (Amanda Seyfried version)
I watched the first half or so of this before I went to bed. It's
not quite the utter stinkfest that it's made out to be, although I'd feel
robbed if I had seen in a theater :) There are some very beautiful
visuals to balance out the extreme stupidity of much of it. Seyfried
isn't bad at all, really.
Grade: C-
THE CRIMSON PETAL AND THE WHITE (BBC miniseries from 2011)
First, a confession. I only got this DVD (Netflix rental) because
Romola Garai was always beautiful, even though she couldn't act a lick,
and she does some hot nude scenes. But she has lost a lot of her looks
fairly young; nice thing is, she has also learned some acting.
So I watched a few minutes before fast-forwarding to the R-rated
goodies and I was hooked after two minutes. It's too bad, the thing is
just way too dark for real Emmy consideration, because it is a
well-written, well-acted, very dark and very weird show that really kept
my eyes glued to the set.
The main plot revolves around a Victorian prostitute (Garai) and
her principal client, set in the twin worlds of the Victorian upper middle
class and the depths of the London demi-monde. It is almost a
psychological horror movie, but nothing supernatural in it -- like Jane
Eyre or Wuthering Heights, the terror all comes from the people and
situations.
But everything is in the execution, not the concept. They really
manage to keep it interesting through the characterizations and
interactions of all the weird people.
I'm only halfway through, so a grade is premature, but this is in
the A to B range.
but it's kind of boring.
Grade: C
I watched a lot of other "Grade C" stuff that I just don't care about,
such as Hell on Wheels, The Monster Inside Me (I guess they've run out of
outlandish parasites so this week we got e. coli and bubonic plague
infections).
Once Upon a Time -
This is getting a bit old, too, but it's still alive. Sarah
Bolger was a terrific addition to the cast. They are fighting to keep a
viable season arc alive now that the magic is back -- Henry controlling
the Queen with his affections isn't strong. I liked the wraithe, though!
Very scary.
Grade: B
RED RIDING HOOD (Amanda Seyfried version)
I watched the first half or so of this before I went to bed. It's
not quite the utter stinkfest that it's made out to be, although I'd feel
robbed if I had seen in a theater :) There are some very beautiful
visuals to balance out the extreme stupidity of much of it. Seyfried
isn't bad at all, really.
Grade: C-
THE CRIMSON PETAL AND THE WHITE (BBC miniseries from 2011)
First, a confession. I only got this DVD (Netflix rental) because
Romola Garai was always beautiful, even though she couldn't act a lick,
and she does some hot nude scenes. But she has lost a lot of her looks
fairly young; nice thing is, she has also learned some acting.
So I watched a few minutes before fast-forwarding to the R-rated
goodies and I was hooked after two minutes. It's too bad, the thing is
just way too dark for real Emmy consideration, because it is a
well-written, well-acted, very dark and very weird show that really kept
my eyes glued to the set.
The main plot revolves around a Victorian prostitute (Garai) and
her principal client, set in the twin worlds of the Victorian upper middle
class and the depths of the London demi-monde. It is almost a
psychological horror movie, but nothing supernatural in it -- like Jane
Eyre or Wuthering Heights, the terror all comes from the people and
situations.
But everything is in the execution, not the concept. They really
manage to keep it interesting through the characterizations and
interactions of all the weird people.
I'm only halfway through, so a grade is premature, but this is in
the A to B range.
icebreaker
Oct 6, 2012, 1:33:54 PM10/6/12
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"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
news:ijball-NO_SPAM-7A3...@news.eternal-september.org...
Yep, the happy endings all around sucked, but were par for the course for
this mess of an imported telenovela. I wonder if they were required to not
deviate from the original assuming what they did followed that script? I
agree with all you said above.
> CSI:NY -............
> Made In Jersey - A very LARGE step down from the pilot, unfortunately.
> Gone are Pablo Schreiber and Stephanie March from the pilot, replaced by
> Kristoffer Polaha and Megalyn Echikunwoke(!?!). The Schreiber/Polaha
> trade is probably break-even-to-slightly-negative, but it doesn't take a
> genius to figure out that the Echikunwoke-for-March trade is bad, bad
> news. In addition, the case was a lot less compelling this week. And
> Martina was more mannered, and less clever. And the "family" storyline
> was her sister (Erin Cummings) having an annoying boyfriend. Meh.
> These guys need to do a lot better than this... :/
I didn't mind the trades myself. Miss March is likely too busy hanging with
Bobbie and Michael Symon and his wife in Italy to shoot a full series. :)
This is pretty lightweight fare and even the legal stuff is glossed over. I
like JM but this series isn't going to last long based on what we're seeing.
> Blue Bloods - Richard Burgi shows up as a city councilman suspected by
> Danny and Jackie of slapping around his (ex-stripper?) girlfriend. The
> problem? Burgi is also the same City Councilman who trying to help Tom
> Selleck avoid budget cuts. Oops. Meanwhile, Danny's wife Linda goes back
> to work as a nurse, and intersects Danny's case. Decent episode.
This is another series I wouldn't miss at all if it disappeared.
news:ijball-NO_SPAM-7A3...@news.eternal-september.org...
this mess of an imported telenovela. I wonder if they were required to not
deviate from the original assuming what they did followed that script? I
agree with all you said above.
> CSI:NY -............
> But gorgeous Natalie Martinez shows up as Flack's new parter - I hope
> they have lots of her, and add her as a full cast member next season!
> :)
That's the only thing that made this at all watchable.
> they have lots of her, and add her as a full cast member next season!
> :)
> Made In Jersey - A very LARGE step down from the pilot, unfortunately.
> Gone are Pablo Schreiber and Stephanie March from the pilot, replaced by
> Kristoffer Polaha and Megalyn Echikunwoke(!?!). The Schreiber/Polaha
> trade is probably break-even-to-slightly-negative, but it doesn't take a
> genius to figure out that the Echikunwoke-for-March trade is bad, bad
> news. In addition, the case was a lot less compelling this week. And
> Martina was more mannered, and less clever. And the "family" storyline
> was her sister (Erin Cummings) having an annoying boyfriend. Meh.
> These guys need to do a lot better than this... :/
Bobbie and Michael Symon and his wife in Italy to shoot a full series. :)
This is pretty lightweight fare and even the legal stuff is glossed over. I
like JM but this series isn't going to last long based on what we're seeing.
> Blue Bloods - Richard Burgi shows up as a city councilman suspected by
> Danny and Jackie of slapping around his (ex-stripper?) girlfriend. The
> problem? Burgi is also the same City Councilman who trying to help Tom
> Selleck avoid budget cuts. Oops. Meanwhile, Danny's wife Linda goes back
> to work as a nurse, and intersects Danny's case. Decent episode.
Ubiquitous
Oct 6, 2012, 2:11:23 PM10/6/12
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MASH:
"Back Pay". Hawkeye bills the army for services rendered. Meanwhile,
Charles suffers from a bad back.
FAT ALBERT:
After a runaway steals their TV set, a local character named Mudflap
gives the lesson of the day by telling the runaway the sory of Hansel
and Gretell. Sure enough, the crowd of kind street punks she hangs with
have ulterior motives (I could not hear what they wanted her to do--
help rob a 7-11?) and Fat Albert and the cops rescue her. This ep ends
this VSE with a prolonged and lingering shot of the runaway hotline
phone number.
REMINGTON STEELE
Laura and RS must help a man who was almost killed. Unfortunately, he
has amnesia and has no idea who it was. Further complicating things, it
turns out he had five wives and five different identities, so they fake
his death at a local arsenal K-Mart (seriously, there was a scene with a
little old lady filling her shopping cart with grenades from an
end-aisle bin display!) in order to flush out the killer. Unfortunately,
Doris fucks up and fails to prevent the client from showing up at his
own funeral. My gawd, this ep was so stupid! Hey! It's Delta Burke!
FRINGE
"In Absentia". The team go to Walter's former lab at Harvard looking
for clues to help battle their Observer overlords. For some stupid
reason, the clue was on a VCR tape in a vidcam that was encased in
Amber, requiring them to use a laser to retrieve it, was partially
damaged in the process and was merely a message indstructing them he
dispersed the information among several tapes that they must find in
succession. They better hope the vidtape chain isn't broken! What a
stupid half-arsed way to do it! I guess this show has gone off the
tracks now.
SOUTH PARK
"Raising the Bar". Cartman stops denying he's a big fat-ass, then gets a
motorscooter and looks for people to sue and bunps heads with Honey Boo
Boo. Meanwhile, James Cameron is looking for the retorical bar that
keeps getting lowered.
BRICKLEBERRY PARK
"Two Weeks Notice". This South Park clone takes place at a state park
and its park rangers and talking animals. In this ep, Steve the narcist
discovers he only has two weeks left to live.
TMC UNDERGROUND
"Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
"Back Pay". Hawkeye bills the army for services rendered. Meanwhile,
Charles suffers from a bad back.
FAT ALBERT:
After a runaway steals their TV set, a local character named Mudflap
gives the lesson of the day by telling the runaway the sory of Hansel
and Gretell. Sure enough, the crowd of kind street punks she hangs with
have ulterior motives (I could not hear what they wanted her to do--
help rob a 7-11?) and Fat Albert and the cops rescue her. This ep ends
this VSE with a prolonged and lingering shot of the runaway hotline
phone number.
REMINGTON STEELE
Laura and RS must help a man who was almost killed. Unfortunately, he
has amnesia and has no idea who it was. Further complicating things, it
turns out he had five wives and five different identities, so they fake
his death at a local arsenal K-Mart (seriously, there was a scene with a
little old lady filling her shopping cart with grenades from an
end-aisle bin display!) in order to flush out the killer. Unfortunately,
Doris fucks up and fails to prevent the client from showing up at his
own funeral. My gawd, this ep was so stupid! Hey! It's Delta Burke!
FRINGE
"In Absentia". The team go to Walter's former lab at Harvard looking
for clues to help battle their Observer overlords. For some stupid
reason, the clue was on a VCR tape in a vidcam that was encased in
Amber, requiring them to use a laser to retrieve it, was partially
damaged in the process and was merely a message indstructing them he
dispersed the information among several tapes that they must find in
succession. They better hope the vidtape chain isn't broken! What a
stupid half-arsed way to do it! I guess this show has gone off the
tracks now.
SOUTH PARK
"Raising the Bar". Cartman stops denying he's a big fat-ass, then gets a
motorscooter and looks for people to sue and bunps heads with Honey Boo
Boo. Meanwhile, James Cameron is looking for the retorical bar that
keeps getting lowered.
BRICKLEBERRY PARK
"Two Weeks Notice". This South Park clone takes place at a state park
and its park rangers and talking animals. In this ep, Steve the narcist
discovers he only has two weeks left to live.
TMC UNDERGROUND
"Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
David V. Loewe, Jr
Oct 6, 2012, 2:15:05 PM10/6/12
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Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
Fringe (Fox)
Scandal (DVR)
--
"...you know, it seems to me you suffer from the problem of
wanting a tailored fit in an off the rack world."
Dennis Juds
Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
Fringe (Fox)
Scandal (DVR)
--
"...you know, it seems to me you suffer from the problem of
wanting a tailored fit in an off the rack world."
Dennis Juds
chicagofan
Oct 6, 2012, 2:31:30 PM10/6/12
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David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
> Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
>
> Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
Didn't watch, but heard about a brouhaha that interrupted the game. What happened?
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
> Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
>
> Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
bj
shawn
Oct 6, 2012, 3:41:36 PM10/6/12
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On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game
>playoff, I watched:
>
>
>GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
>around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
>Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
>message.
Easy peasy.. Monroe dying would only be the first of Nick's friends to
>On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game
>playoff, I watched:
>
>
>GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
>around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
>Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
>message.
die. I'm sure they would have taken out the herbal chemist girl too.
>The fight scenes employed 'fast forward' video and I never did
>figure out who supposedly fired the first shot that killed the first 'bad
>guy'. Meanwhile, one of the bad guys never did morph into a Wessen, so was
>this a regular human working as the snake's sidekick? Nick/Hank are lousy
>policemen as the entire setup for the episode was them plotting to catch the
>bigwig behind it all, but when the bigwig surfaces, they chase everyone but
>her, so she escapes.
the tires when they were still not in the thick of the fight would
have insured she didn't get far. I'm sure that's a choice made by the
writers but it reflects badly on the planning abililty of Nick/Hank.
>The Prince catches up with her, though, and if she is
>sending messages about how none of the Wessen should be working with this
>Grimm, shouldn't the Prince be killing her? In her earlier dialog with him,
>she almost dared him to kill her. Tune in next time to see if it happens.
>Meanwhile, that bus ride out of town had an eerily permanent feel to it.
see why she wouldn't just keep sending over more killers. Oh, and I
wasn't clear if this was just the first time she hired someone or was
she also involved in the assassins coming over to kill Nick. If she
wasn't involved in the assassins why did she want to get involved in
killing Nick's friends? At least his Vessen friends.
>What did you watch?
>
Ian J. Ball
Oct 6, 2012, 6:12:40 PM10/6/12
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In article <k4psbn$unu$1...@dont-email.me>,
forget that TCM does stuff like this on late Friday nights... :(
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> TMC UNDERGROUND
> "Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
> one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
> hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
That actually sounds pretty good - I wish I'd seen that. But I always
> TMC UNDERGROUND
> "Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
> one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
> hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
forget that TCM does stuff like this on late Friday nights... :(
David Loewe, Jr.
Oct 6, 2012, 6:18:48 PM10/6/12
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Fly rule) that resulted in the Braves having second and third, two out
instead of a possible bases loaded, one out while down 6-3 in the
eighth. Atlanta fans showered the field with debris. It took some 18
minutes to restore order and get the debris picked up.
--
"Go ahead and hate your neighbor, go ahead and cheat a friend
Do it in the name of heaven and you can justify it in the end
There won't be any trumpets blowing come the Judgement Day
And on the bloody morning after....One Tin Soldier rides away."
One Tin Soldier - The Legend Of Billy Jack
anim8rFSK
Oct 6, 2012, 7:00:55 PM10/6/12
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In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-658...@news.eternal-september.org>,
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
<ijball-NO_SPAM-658...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> In article <k4psbn$unu$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> > TMC UNDERGROUND
> > "Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
> > one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
> > hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
>
> That actually sounds pretty good - I wish I'd seen that. But I always
> forget that TCM does stuff like this on late Friday nights... :(
I believe it to have a sad ending; JLC survives.
> In article <k4psbn$unu$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> > TMC UNDERGROUND
> > "Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
> > one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
> > hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
>
> That actually sounds pretty good - I wish I'd seen that. But I always
> forget that TCM does stuff like this on late Friday nights... :(
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
David Barnett
Oct 6, 2012, 8:04:09 PM10/6/12
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says...
> What did you watch?
Today, Sun Oct 7, I watched
BOARDWALK EMPIRE: Broadway Limited/ Anastasia
Season 1 episodes.
I did watch DOCTOR WHO: The Angels Take Manhattan
last night.
--
David Barnett
> What did you watch?
Today, Sun Oct 7, I watched
BOARDWALK EMPIRE: Broadway Limited/ Anastasia
Season 1 episodes.
I did watch DOCTOR WHO: The Angels Take Manhattan
last night.
--
David Barnett
chicagofan
Oct 6, 2012, 8:12:11 PM10/6/12
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David Loewe, Jr. wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:31:30, chicagofan<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>
>>> Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
>>>
>>> Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
>> Didn't watch, but heard about a brouhaha that interrupted the game. What happened?
> There was a disputed ruling on the field (an invocation of the Infield
> Fly rule) that resulted in the Braves having second and third, two out
> instead of a possible bases loaded, one out while down 6-3 in the
> eighth. Atlanta fans showered the field with debris. It took some 18
> minutes to restore order and get the debris picked up.
What a shame! We're such a "classy" city. :( <sigh>
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:31:30, chicagofan<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>>
>>> Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
>>>
>>> Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
>> Didn't watch, but heard about a brouhaha that interrupted the game. What happened?
> There was a disputed ruling on the field (an invocation of the Infield
> Fly rule) that resulted in the Braves having second and third, two out
> instead of a possible bases loaded, one out while down 6-3 in the
> eighth. Atlanta fans showered the field with debris. It took some 18
> minutes to restore order and get the debris picked up.
Thanks for the info...
bj
Obveeus
Oct 6, 2012, 9:24:35 PM10/6/12
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"shawn" <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game
>>playoff, I watched:
>>
>>
>>GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
>>around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
>>Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
>>message.
>
> Easy peasy.. Monroe dying would only be the first of Nick's friends to
> die. I'm sure they would have taken out the herbal chemist girl too.
>>The Prince catches up with her, though, and if she is
>>sending messages about how none of the Wessen should be working with this
>>Grimm, shouldn't the Prince be killing her? In her earlier dialog with
>>him,
>>she almost dared him to kill her. Tune in next time to see if it happens.
>>Meanwhile, that bus ride out of town had an eerily permanent feel to it.
>
> Something sure has to happen out of that meeting. Otherwise I don't
> see why she wouldn't just keep sending over more killers. Oh, and I
> wasn't clear if this was just the first time she hired someone or was
> she also involved in the assassins coming over to kill Nick. If she
> wasn't involved in the assassins why did she want to get involved in
> killing Nick's friends? At least his Vessen friends.
The biggest problem of all remains that Nick's boss, Renard, is also 'his
>>sending messages about how none of the Wessen should be working with this
>>Grimm, shouldn't the Prince be killing her? In her earlier dialog with
>>him,
>>she almost dared him to kill her. Tune in next time to see if it happens.
>>Meanwhile, that bus ride out of town had an eerily permanent feel to it.
>
> Something sure has to happen out of that meeting. Otherwise I don't
> see why she wouldn't just keep sending over more killers. Oh, and I
> wasn't clear if this was just the first time she hired someone or was
> she also involved in the assassins coming over to kill Nick. If she
> wasn't involved in the assassins why did she want to get involved in
> killing Nick's friends? At least his Vessen friends.
friend' (at least in terms of interacting with him and not trying to
actively kill him). So, logically, if the goal is to kill Wessen that are
non-confrontational towards Nick, Renard should be at the top of the list.
Maybe he even was, since someone tried to assassinate him awhile back, too.
In any case, Renard might just want to take this new woman up on her
challenge and send her back to the homeland in several boxes.
BTR1701
Oct 7, 2012, 1:52:55 AM10/7/12
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"David Loewe, Jr." <dlo...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:31:30, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>
>>> Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
>>>
>>> Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
>>
>> Didn't watch, but heard about a brouhaha that interrupted the game. What happened?
>
> There was a disputed ruling on the field (an invocation of the Infield
> Fly rule) that resulted in the Braves having second and third, two out
> instead of a possible bases loaded, one out while down 6-3 in the
> eighth. Atlanta fans showered the field with debris. It took some 18
> minutes to restore order and get the debris picked up.
Due to all the controversy about the call in the game, Major League
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:31:30, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
>>> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>
>>> Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
>>>
>>> Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
>>
>> Didn't watch, but heard about a brouhaha that interrupted the game. What happened?
>
> There was a disputed ruling on the field (an invocation of the Infield
> Fly rule) that resulted in the Braves having second and third, two out
> instead of a possible bases loaded, one out while down 6-3 in the
> eighth. Atlanta fans showered the field with debris. It took some 18
> minutes to restore order and get the debris picked up.
Baseball apparently removed the phrase "We don’t understand the infield fly
rule, either." from its biography on its official Twitter feed.
Ubiquitous
Oct 7, 2012, 6:01:30 AM10/7/12
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anim...@cox.net wrote:
> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> > TMC UNDERGROUND
>> > "Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
>> > one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
>> > hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
>>
>> That actually sounds pretty good - I wish I'd seen that. But I always
>> forget that TCM does stuff like this on late Friday nights... :(
>
>I believe it to have a sad ending; JLC survives.
I'm pretty sure this wasn't a snuff film.
> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> > TMC UNDERGROUND
>> > "Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
>> > one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
>> > hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
>>
>> That actually sounds pretty good - I wish I'd seen that. But I always
>> forget that TCM does stuff like this on late Friday nights... :(
>
>I believe it to have a sad ending; JLC survives.
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William December Starr
Oct 7, 2012, 10:22:32 PM10/7/12
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In article <k4pjfe$a2s$1...@dont-email.me>,
made actually finishing the season in first place important again
> tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game playoff, I
> watched:
-- wds
made actually finishing the season in first place important again
> tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game playoff, I
> watched:
Mason Barge
Oct 8, 2012, 1:30:15 PM10/8/12
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On 7 Oct 2012 22:22:32 -0400, wds...@panix.com (William December Starr)
wrote:
>In article <k4pjfe$a2s$1...@dont-email.me>,
>"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> said:
>
>> On a day when baseball
>
>made actually finishing the season in first place important again
>
made everyone forget about the NFL "replacement refs".
wrote:
>In article <k4pjfe$a2s$1...@dont-email.me>,
>"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> said:
>
>> On a day when baseball
>
>made actually finishing the season in first place important again
>
William December Starr
Oct 8, 2012, 1:33:32 PM10/8/12
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In article <7c367817ja0t2tb46...@4ax.com>,
The difference being, the umpires got the call right.
-- wds
-- wds
Hunter
Oct 8, 2012, 7:06:19 PM10/8/12
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>On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game
>playoff, I watched:
>
>
>GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
>around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
>Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
>message.
-----
>playoff, I watched:
>
>
>GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
>around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
>Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
>message.
It was aimed at the Wessen community. When Nick's Wessen friends and
contacts start dying around him, the Wessen grapevine will spread the
word. After about three or so die the message will spread. With Nick
he'll get the message when the people that he cares about start to
die. It is the same justification as to why Superheroes usually have
secret identities.
>
> The fight scenes employed 'fast forward' video and I never did
>figure out who supposedly fired the first shot that killed the first 'bad
>guy'.
-----
> The fight scenes employed 'fast forward' video and I never did
>figure out who supposedly fired the first shot that killed the first 'bad
>guy'.
You mean when Monroe's sister was killed? If so it was the completely
human guy did.
>
> Meanwhile, one of the bad guys never did morph into a Wessen, so was
>this a regular human working as the snake's sidekick?
-----
> Meanwhile, one of the bad guys never did morph into a Wessen, so was
>this a regular human working as the snake's sidekick?
It would seem so. If Monroe could work with Nick.
>
> Nick/Hank are lousy policemen as the entire setup for the episode was them plotting to catch the
>bigwig behind it all, but when the bigwig surfaces, they chase everyone but
>her, so she escapes.
-------
> Nick/Hank are lousy policemen as the entire setup for the episode was them plotting to catch the
>bigwig behind it all, but when the bigwig surfaces, they chase everyone but
>her, so she escapes.
They weren't operating as policemen, but as Grimm and assistant.
Remember the plan was to pretend that Monroe was dead; the person who
ordered him dead is satisfied and they will go away happy. It was
never to apprehend them. It is when Monroe was about to die
permanently was his sister forced to revive him and he awoke. Then the
fire fight broke out. Nick went after one of the guy that gave
Monroe's sister the contract The female was already back in her car
and driving in reverse so hank couldn't do anything. Hank had to back
up Nick anyway.
>
>The Prince catches up with her, though, and if she is
>sending messages about how none of the Wessen should be working with this
>Grimm, shouldn't the Prince be killing her? In her earlier dialog with him, she almost dared him to kill her.
----
>The Prince catches up with her, though, and if she is
>sending messages about how none of the Wessen should be working with this
>Grimm, shouldn't the Prince be killing her? In her earlier dialog with him, she almost dared him to kill her.
Does he know why she was in town? I don't think so. I believe it was
in reference to something in their past.
>
> Tune in next time to see if it happens.
>Meanwhile, that bus ride out of town had an eerily permanent feel to it.
-----
> Tune in next time to see if it happens.
>Meanwhile, that bus ride out of town had an eerily permanent feel to it.
I don't think so. I think we will see her again.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Obveeus
Oct 8, 2012, 6:23:54 PM10/8/12
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"Hunter (Hunter)" <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game
>>playoff, I watched:
>>
>>
>>GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
>>around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
>>Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
>>message.
> -----
> It was aimed at the Wessen community. When Nick's Wessen friends and
> contacts start dying around him, the Wessen grapevine will spread the
> word. After about three or so die the message will spread. With Nick
> he'll get the message when the people that he cares about start to
> die. It is the same justification as to why Superheroes usually have
> secret identities.
kill multiple people rather than just Monroe. Meanwhile, Nick getting the
message would not stop him from hunting bad Wessen, it would only intensify
his hunt. Meanwhile, good Wessen would just as likely try harder to make
sure Nick completed that task since it would also benfit them.
>> The fight scenes employed 'fast forward' video and I never did
>>figure out who supposedly fired the first shot that killed the first 'bad
>>guy'.
> -----
> You mean when Monroe's sister was killed? If so it was the completely
> human guy did.
running at about the same moment that a bullet hits one of the 'bad guys'.
Who fired that bullet?
>> Meanwhile, one of the bad guys never did morph into a Wessen, so was
>>this a regular human working as the snake's sidekick?
> -----
> It would seem so. If Monroe could work with Nick.
to since I don't remember if that particular guy died) regular humans in the
course of their GRIMM work.
>> Nick/Hank are lousy policemen as the entire setup for the episode was
>> them plotting to catch the
>>bigwig behind it all, but when the bigwig surfaces, they chase everyone
>>but
>>her, so she escapes.
> -------
> They weren't operating as policemen, but as Grimm and assistant.
> Remember the plan was to pretend that Monroe was dead; the person who
> ordered him dead is satisfied and they will go away happy.
had to make Monroe look dead to the lackey 'bad guys' so that the person
that hired them would show up on scene.
> It was never to apprehend them.
> It is when Monroe was about to die
> permanently was his sister forced to revive him and he awoke. Then the
> fire fight broke out. Nick went after one of the guy that gave
> Monroe's sister the contract The female was already back in her car
> and driving in reverse so hank couldn't do anything. Hank had to back
> up Nick anyway.
to catch get away while they wasted time chasing irrelevent side kicks
through the woods.
>>The Prince catches up with her, though, and if she is
>>sending messages about how none of the Wessen should be working with this
>>Grimm, shouldn't the Prince be killing her? In her earlier dialog with
>>him, she almost dared him to kill her.
> ----
> Does he know why she was in town? I don't think so.
of the Wessen mafia) get the message not to work with Nick if he doesn't
'get the message' about Wessen around Nick dying? If he does get that
message, why wouldn't he want to send this woman home in a box as a message
to the European family...just as he has done before?
>I believe it was in reference to something in their past.
mail. Either way, she was still asking to be killed.
>> Tune in next time to see if it happens.
>>Meanwhile, that bus ride out of town had an eerily permanent feel to it.
> -----
> I don't think so. I think we will see her again.
staying with the family that needs her..
Ubiquitous
Oct 9, 2012, 4:49:52 AM10/9/12
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ijball-...@mac.invalid wrote:
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> TMC UNDERGROUND
>> "Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
>> one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
>> hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
>
>That actually sounds pretty good - I wish I'd seen that. But I always
>forget that TCM does stuff like this on late Friday nights... :(
It waasn't THAT good, but they play an eclectric mix of movies.
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> TMC UNDERGROUND
>> "Road Games". Stacy Keech stars as an Australian truck driver suspects
>> one of his fellow travelers is a serial killer and convinced that a
>> hitchhiker played by Jamie Lee Curtis is going to be the next victim.
>
>That actually sounds pretty good - I wish I'd seen that. But I always
>forget that TCM does stuff like this on late Friday nights... :(
It reminds of of TNTs "Weird Movies" show in some ways.
Jim G.
Oct 12, 2012, 6:21:19 PM10/12/12
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Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400:
matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless" games early in the
season.
> GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
> around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
> Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
> message. The fight scenes employed 'fast forward' video and I never did
> figure out who supposedly fired the first shot that killed the first 'bad
> guy'. Meanwhile, one of the bad guys never did morph into a Wessen, so was
> this a regular human working as the snake's sidekick? Nick/Hank are lousy
> policemen as the entire setup for the episode was them plotting to catch the
> bigwig behind it all, but when the bigwig surfaces, they chase everyone but
> her, so she escapes.
Yeah, that escape was especially annoying.
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Get down off the cross. We need the wood." -- Pete Lattimer, WAREHOUSE 13
> On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1 game
> playoff, I watched:
Sooner or later, people will finally realize that every game really does
> playoff, I watched:
matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless" games early in the
season.
> GRIMM: Monroe's sister returns to the show, but oddly, everyone dances
> around referring to her as the sister. A group of people is hired to kill
> Monroe as a message to Nick. No idea how he is supposed to get this
> message. The fight scenes employed 'fast forward' video and I never did
> figure out who supposedly fired the first shot that killed the first 'bad
> guy'. Meanwhile, one of the bad guys never did morph into a Wessen, so was
> this a regular human working as the snake's sidekick? Nick/Hank are lousy
> policemen as the entire setup for the episode was them plotting to catch the
> bigwig behind it all, but when the bigwig surfaces, they chase everyone but
> her, so she escapes.
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Get down off the cross. We need the wood." -- Pete Lattimer, WAREHOUSE 13
Jim G.
Oct 12, 2012, 6:21:19 PM10/12/12
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Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400:
>
> What did you watch?
>
GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Over My Dead Body
[Angelina (Jaime Ray Newman) comes to town with bad news; Nick asks Hank
for help keeping Monroe safe; Capt. Renard has a visit from a former
acquaintance (Alice Evans).]
The writers of this show must just love pushing the envelope when it
comes to just how many insane coincidences the audience will swallow.
The last one that stands out was a Wesen just happening to show up in
*exactly* the same place where Monrosalee were picnicking out in the
middle of nowhere. This time around, it's Angelina just happening to
stop at a bar "two hours north of Portland" where people tasked with
killing Monroe just happen to be knocking back a few PBRs. So she ends
up getting recruited after she sees the downside of being a tease, and
it's off to Portland to warn Monroe. Who seems to be getting wimpier and
wimpier with every episode. Dude, you're a freaking Blutbad. Okay, so
you're trying to go straight, but what part of "You can be a real
bad-ass when you want to" aren't you grasping, exactly? Oh, well. We get
some bonding time between him and Hank, and the latter's "Can you do it
again?" was pretty funny, as was Monroe's reaction. Then we get a plan
to make Monroe mostly dead and I guess we're just to hope that the bad
guys want stick a shiv in him or decapitate him as an insurance policy.
And sure enough, the bad guys are idiots. They take one look, sniff him
a bit, and are about to leave him intact when Angelina snaps and has to
revive Monroe before he dies. Then we get an okay fight scene that
results in the main baddie getting away, which was surely as convenient
for the long-term plot as it was moronic for the writing of *this*
episode. And finally, while it's understandable that Rosalee had to
leave so that the actress could have her baby, I found that whole
subplot to be a really bad rush job. Still, in spite of these quibbles,
I continue to love the mood of this thing and the things that the
writers are trying to do, and the characters continue to grow on me, as
well. Let's just end the Juliet nonsense and move on...
Grade: B
FRINGE (FOX, 8 PM) / In Absentia
[The fringe team must extract information from the Harvard lab, which is
now controlled by the Observers.]
This show no longer has much of anything in common with the show that we
saw in the pilot. Yes, I know that that has been true for some time now,
but it's as if this season they're not even pretending to relate things
to those early seasons. This time around, we learn that tablet computers
haven't advanced at all in 24 years and that Jack Bauer would have loved
Etta. And Olivia learns that she can't judge Etta's world by her own
past world's standards, but the two manage to find common ground in the
end. And, as in most things, the truth is usually to be found somewhere
in the middle, so it's all good on that front. And now, it's on to
Walter's Wacky Videotape Scavenger Hunt! (Because his approach to hiding
the truth wasn't totally stupid. Really. And I'm gonna keep saying that
until I can say it with a straight face.)
Grade: C
HAVEN (SYFY, 9 PM) / The Farmer
[A Boston cop tries linking the town's latest body to similar cases.]
Someone's swapping out sperm, and my money is on a handyman. A handy
man. Get it? Okay, fine. Moving on... so 29 current kids in Haven have
been conceived at that clinic? How big *is* Haven, exactly? Major
fertility issues, apparently. Seems like a lot for a small coastal N.E.
town, but what do I know. In any case, we have a guy who has what
appears to be a Penis Fly Trap that likes to pop out of his throat.
Yeah, I guess that would be a trouble. And he's got his some wacky ideas
when it comes to organ donation and fatherhood. And Audrey is using Duke
big time, which he only realizes towards the end when Penis Fly Trap
Dude takes his son into the woods behind the house to pee, presumably
because the plumbing in the house *right there* is acting up, or
something. But Duke shoots her down, only to double back and do what she
asked of him while she's busy *not* watching what she should have been
watching. All in all, an improvement over the first two eps of the
season, but it's still looking pretty shaky...
Grade: B- (because the Boston cop is awesome)
Jim G.
Oct 12, 2012, 6:21:19 PM10/12/12
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David Loewe, Jr. sent the following on Sat, 06 Oct 2012 17:18:48 -0500:
times (even though I can't fault the call in this instance), but why
take it out on the grounds crew? I'll *never* get this...
> On Sat, 06 Oct 2012 14:31:30, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> >> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What did you watch?
>
> >> Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
> >>
> >> Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
> >
> >Didn't watch, but heard about a brouhaha that interrupted the game. What happened?
>
> There was a disputed ruling on the field (an invocation of the Infield
> Fly rule) that resulted in the Braves having second and third, two out
> instead of a possible bases loaded, one out while down 6-3 in the
> eighth. Atlanta fans showered the field with debris. It took some 18
> minutes to restore order and get the debris picked up.
Which always annoys the hell out of me. I get being mad at the umps at
>
> >David V. Loewe, Jr wrote:
> >> On Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34, "Obveeus"<Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> What did you watch?
>
> >> Grey's Anatomy (DVR)
> >>
> >> Cardinals @ Braves (TBS)
> >
> >Didn't watch, but heard about a brouhaha that interrupted the game. What happened?
>
> There was a disputed ruling on the field (an invocation of the Infield
> Fly rule) that resulted in the Braves having second and third, two out
> instead of a possible bases loaded, one out while down 6-3 in the
> eighth. Atlanta fans showered the field with debris. It took some 18
> minutes to restore order and get the debris picked up.
times (even though I can't fault the call in this instance), but why
take it out on the grounds crew? I'll *never* get this...
Jim G.
Oct 12, 2012, 6:21:19 PM10/12/12
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BTR1701 sent the following on Sun, 07 Oct 2012 00:52:55 -0500:
Gotta love those rules that require a "judgment call." In this case, the
rule was followed, but we also saw why the rule needs to be modified.
rule was followed, but we also saw why the rule needs to be modified.
Obveeus
Oct 12, 2012, 8:33:10 PM10/12/12
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"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400:
>> On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1
>> game
>> playoff, I watched:
>
> Sooner or later, people will finally realize that every game really does
> matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless" games early in the
> season.
in, the entire season becomes less sand less meaningful.
William December Starr
Oct 14, 2012, 2:19:49 AM10/14/12
to
In article <k5acs7$e45$1...@dont-email.me>,
"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> said:
> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Sooner or later, people will finally realize that every game
>> really does matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless"
>> games early in the season.
>
> The exact opposite is happening. With more and more playoff teams
> allowed in, the entire season becomes less sand less meaningful.
That would be true if those "more and more" teams entered the
post-season on equal footing with the teams that had won their
divisions, but they don't. They _used to_ (except for being at the
bottom of the totem pole with regard to playing home-field games),
but under the new system they don't -- wild-card status is now worth
significantly less than actually finishing in first place.
-- wds
"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> said:
> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Sooner or later, people will finally realize that every game
>> really does matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless"
>> games early in the season.
>
> The exact opposite is happening. With more and more playoff teams
> allowed in, the entire season becomes less sand less meaningful.
post-season on equal footing with the teams that had won their
divisions, but they don't. They _used to_ (except for being at the
bottom of the totem pole with regard to playing home-field games),
but under the new system they don't -- wild-card status is now worth
significantly less than actually finishing in first place.
-- wds
Obveeus
Oct 14, 2012, 3:32:35 PM10/14/12
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"William December Starr" <wds...@panix.com> wrote in message
news:k5dli5$og0$1...@panix2.panix.com...
wildcard teams have a much better chance now, than they did then. The
playoffs have been watered down...not once, but twice.
Meanwhile, this year, 3 of the top 4 teams by season record have already
been sent home.
Jim G.
Oct 15, 2012, 3:13:58 PM10/15/12
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Obveeus sent the following on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:33:10 -0400:
No matter how many teams get in, every single game leading up to the
playoffs can still make or break you and should *always* be treated as
an important game. IMO, there are no write-offs. Not ever. At least not
until you've clinched a spot in the next round, and even then it's a bad
idea to let off the gas *too* much, if at all.
playoffs can still make or break you and should *always* be treated as
an important game. IMO, there are no write-offs. Not ever. At least not
until you've clinched a spot in the next round, and even then it's a bad
idea to let off the gas *too* much, if at all.
shawn
Oct 15, 2012, 7:31:27 PM10/15/12
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:13:58 -0500, Jim G.
bad idea but you need to give everyone some rest, if you can. If
Atlanta manages to clinch their division early then it's a good idea
to give their bench warmers a shot since the games won't be as
important. Sure you want to keep your first string ready for the
playoffs but keeping them in every game for every quarter doesn't make
sense. I would sit them out for a few games and let the other guys get
some playing time and then give my first string guys more playing time
as we come down to the end of the season (but still not a full game.)
That way you hopefully go into the playoffs with everyone healthy,
sharp and with your second/third string players having more playing
time just in case they are needed during the playoffs.
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>Obveeus sent the following on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:33:10 -0400:
>>
>> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400:
>> >> On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1
>> >> game
>> >> playoff, I watched:
>> >
>> > Sooner or later, people will finally realize that every game really does
>> > matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless" games early in the
>> > season.
>>
>> The exact opposite is happening. With more and more playoff teams allowed
>> in, the entire season becomes less sand less meaningful.
>
>No matter how many teams get in, every single game leading up to the
>playoffs can still make or break you and should *always* be treated as
>an important game. IMO, there are no write-offs. Not ever. At least not
>until you've clinched a spot in the next round, and even then it's a bad
>idea to let off the gas *too* much, if at all.
I'm not so sure about that. Taking your foot off the pedal would be a
>Obveeus sent the following on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:33:10 -0400:
>>
>> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400:
>> >> On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1
>> >> game
>> >> playoff, I watched:
>> >
>> > Sooner or later, people will finally realize that every game really does
>> > matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless" games early in the
>> > season.
>>
>> The exact opposite is happening. With more and more playoff teams allowed
>> in, the entire season becomes less sand less meaningful.
>
>No matter how many teams get in, every single game leading up to the
>playoffs can still make or break you and should *always* be treated as
>an important game. IMO, there are no write-offs. Not ever. At least not
>until you've clinched a spot in the next round, and even then it's a bad
>idea to let off the gas *too* much, if at all.
bad idea but you need to give everyone some rest, if you can. If
Atlanta manages to clinch their division early then it's a good idea
to give their bench warmers a shot since the games won't be as
important. Sure you want to keep your first string ready for the
playoffs but keeping them in every game for every quarter doesn't make
sense. I would sit them out for a few games and let the other guys get
some playing time and then give my first string guys more playing time
as we come down to the end of the season (but still not a full game.)
That way you hopefully go into the playoffs with everyone healthy,
sharp and with your second/third string players having more playing
time just in case they are needed during the playoffs.
Jim G.
Oct 16, 2012, 3:54:44 PM10/16/12
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Obveeus sent the following on Sun, 14 Oct 2012 15:32:35 -0400:
Postseason games count as much as regular season games. Again, it
doesn't matter how many teams get in. What matters is that any given
team treats every game as important and every game as a must-win,
whether it's a regular season game or a postseason game. If it does that
and does it successfully, then it won't be going home early. It really
is that simple.
doesn't matter how many teams get in. What matters is that any given
team treats every game as important and every game as a must-win,
whether it's a regular season game or a postseason game. If it does that
and does it successfully, then it won't be going home early. It really
is that simple.
Jim G.
Oct 17, 2012, 3:56:30 PM10/17/12
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shawn sent the following on Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:31:27 -0400:
aren't used to extra days off tend to get out of sync when they're given
extra days off.
> If
> Atlanta manages to clinch their division early then it's a good idea
> to give their bench warmers a shot since the games won't be as
> important.
The game may not be important, but the chemistry/whatever of the players
on the field still matters. Mess with that too much and you've got
problems when the games start to matter again in the next round.
> Sure you want to keep your first string ready for the
> playoffs but keeping them in every game for every quarter doesn't make
> sense.
I'm more sympathetic to resting football players, as that game is much
more prone to injuries. But baseball? I'd give my bench more time in the
back third of the game, but not the front two-thirds.
> I would sit them out for a few games and let the other guys get
> some playing time and then give my first string guys more playing time
> as we come down to the end of the season (but still not a full game.)
Sitting them just totally messes with them, IMO. Both individually and
as members of a unit that you want to keep as cohesive as possible.
> That way you hopefully go into the playoffs with everyone healthy,
> sharp and with your second/third string players having more playing
> time just in case they are needed during the playoffs.
I can't really argue with what you're saying other than the suggestion
that starters get extra days off. I think that that's a *really* bad
idea. Pull them early, sure, but starters need to continue to start
every day, IMO. Anything else messes with the rhythm that they've built
up over the course of the season.
> On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:13:58 -0500, Jim G.
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Obveeus sent the following on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:33:10 -0400:
> >>
> >> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400:
> >> >> On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1
> >> >> game
> >> >> playoff, I watched:
> >> >
> >> > Sooner or later, people will finally realize that every game really does
> >> > matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless" games early in the
> >> > season.
> >>
> >> The exact opposite is happening. With more and more playoff teams allowed
> >> in, the entire season becomes less sand less meaningful.
> >
> >No matter how many teams get in, every single game leading up to the
> >playoffs can still make or break you and should *always* be treated as
> >an important game. IMO, there are no write-offs. Not ever. At least not
> >until you've clinched a spot in the next round, and even then it's a bad
> >idea to let off the gas *too* much, if at all.
>
> I'm not so sure about that. Taking your foot off the pedal would be a
> bad idea but you need to give everyone some rest, if you can.
I agree, but I'd continue to start my starters every time out. Guys who
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Obveeus sent the following on Fri, 12 Oct 2012 20:33:10 -0400:
> >>
> >> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 6 Oct 2012 11:41:34 -0400:
> >> >> On a day when baseball tossed aside a 162 game season in favor of a 1
> >> >> game
> >> >> playoff, I watched:
> >> >
> >> > Sooner or later, people will finally realize that every game really does
> >> > matter, and they'll stop tanking on "meaningless" games early in the
> >> > season.
> >>
> >> The exact opposite is happening. With more and more playoff teams allowed
> >> in, the entire season becomes less sand less meaningful.
> >
> >No matter how many teams get in, every single game leading up to the
> >playoffs can still make or break you and should *always* be treated as
> >an important game. IMO, there are no write-offs. Not ever. At least not
> >until you've clinched a spot in the next round, and even then it's a bad
> >idea to let off the gas *too* much, if at all.
>
> I'm not so sure about that. Taking your foot off the pedal would be a
> bad idea but you need to give everyone some rest, if you can.
aren't used to extra days off tend to get out of sync when they're given
extra days off.
> If
> Atlanta manages to clinch their division early then it's a good idea
> to give their bench warmers a shot since the games won't be as
> important.
on the field still matters. Mess with that too much and you've got
problems when the games start to matter again in the next round.
> Sure you want to keep your first string ready for the
> playoffs but keeping them in every game for every quarter doesn't make
> sense.
more prone to injuries. But baseball? I'd give my bench more time in the
back third of the game, but not the front two-thirds.
> I would sit them out for a few games and let the other guys get
> some playing time and then give my first string guys more playing time
> as we come down to the end of the season (but still not a full game.)
as members of a unit that you want to keep as cohesive as possible.
> That way you hopefully go into the playoffs with everyone healthy,
> sharp and with your second/third string players having more playing
> time just in case they are needed during the playoffs.
that starters get extra days off. I think that that's a *really* bad
idea. Pull them early, sure, but starters need to continue to start
every day, IMO. Anything else messes with the rhythm that they've built
up over the course of the season.
shawn
Oct 17, 2012, 7:56:03 PM10/17/12
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:56:30 -0500, Jim G.
you can afford it. Then as you get closer to the playoffs I would
start warming up my rested pitchers again so they are back in the
groove by the time playoffs start. Of course that assumes you have
enough pitchers and you have clinched the playoff spot far in advance
of the playoffs which doesn't happen often.
>> I would sit them out for a few games and let the other guys get
>> some playing time and then give my first string guys more playing time
>> as we come down to the end of the season (but still not a full game.)
>
>Sitting them just totally messes with them, IMO. Both individually and
>as members of a unit that you want to keep as cohesive as possible.
It can mess with them but if they are showing signs of wear I think
it's better to rest them when you can. Now for starters that aren't
showing signs of wear I would agree to keep them in. Obviously you
don't want to sit down every starter one week and bring in all the
bench warmers. It's better to mix it up so that the bench warmers and
starters get used to playing with each other just in case the bench
warmers have to take the place of an injured player.
>> That way you hopefully go into the playoffs with everyone healthy,
>> sharp and with your second/third string players having more playing
>> time just in case they are needed during the playoffs.
>
>I can't really argue with what you're saying other than the suggestion
>that starters get extra days off. I think that that's a *really* bad
>idea. Pull them early, sure, but starters need to continue to start
>every day, IMO. Anything else messes with the rhythm that they've built
>up over the course of the season.
Maybe.. But if they start then they only get to play a little bit. In
football maybe a quarter and then they get to rest. Especially those
that are showing signs of the wear and tear of a long season. Football
is especially tough on many players so giving them a chance to heal up
would be a good thing. Baseball isn't as much of an issue except for
pitchers and maybe short stops as it seems a season of squatting gets
to their knees.
>> Sure you want to keep your first string ready for the
>> playoffs but keeping them in every game for every quarter doesn't make
>> sense.
>
>I'm more sympathetic to resting football players, as that game is much
>more prone to injuries. But baseball? I'd give my bench more time in the
>back third of the game, but not the front two-thirds.
I agree with the players in the field but the pitchers need rest if
>> playoffs but keeping them in every game for every quarter doesn't make
>> sense.
>
>I'm more sympathetic to resting football players, as that game is much
>more prone to injuries. But baseball? I'd give my bench more time in the
>back third of the game, but not the front two-thirds.
you can afford it. Then as you get closer to the playoffs I would
start warming up my rested pitchers again so they are back in the
groove by the time playoffs start. Of course that assumes you have
enough pitchers and you have clinched the playoff spot far in advance
of the playoffs which doesn't happen often.
>> I would sit them out for a few games and let the other guys get
>> some playing time and then give my first string guys more playing time
>> as we come down to the end of the season (but still not a full game.)
>
>Sitting them just totally messes with them, IMO. Both individually and
>as members of a unit that you want to keep as cohesive as possible.
it's better to rest them when you can. Now for starters that aren't
showing signs of wear I would agree to keep them in. Obviously you
don't want to sit down every starter one week and bring in all the
bench warmers. It's better to mix it up so that the bench warmers and
starters get used to playing with each other just in case the bench
warmers have to take the place of an injured player.
>> That way you hopefully go into the playoffs with everyone healthy,
>> sharp and with your second/third string players having more playing
>> time just in case they are needed during the playoffs.
>
>I can't really argue with what you're saying other than the suggestion
>that starters get extra days off. I think that that's a *really* bad
>idea. Pull them early, sure, but starters need to continue to start
>every day, IMO. Anything else messes with the rhythm that they've built
>up over the course of the season.
football maybe a quarter and then they get to rest. Especially those
that are showing signs of the wear and tear of a long season. Football
is especially tough on many players so giving them a chance to heal up
would be a good thing. Baseball isn't as much of an issue except for
pitchers and maybe short stops as it seems a season of squatting gets
to their knees.
Jim G.
Oct 19, 2012, 3:48:01 PM10/19/12
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shawn sent the following on Wed, 17 Oct 2012 19:56:03 -0400:
We're not all that far apart in our thinking, but I'd still run 'em out
there for a few innings every time their turn in the rotation comes up.
Real game work beats side work, just as game day beats scrimmaging in
football. And they'd (presumably) be doing some side work even if they
weren't pitching in a real game. Keep 'em in their rhythm, even if it's
just a few innings or the equivalent of a simulated session.
> Of course that assumes you have
> enough pitchers and you have clinched the playoff spot far in advance
> of the playoffs which doesn't happen often.
True. Expanded rosters help after the minors shut down, but it's not
always enough. Of course, you could always have your right-fielder pitch
a game. :)
And catchers. Don't forget catchers. (Been there, done that, have the
knees to prove it.) And yeah, my approach for football would be *much*
different than my approach for baseball.
there for a few innings every time their turn in the rotation comes up.
Real game work beats side work, just as game day beats scrimmaging in
football. And they'd (presumably) be doing some side work even if they
weren't pitching in a real game. Keep 'em in their rhythm, even if it's
just a few innings or the equivalent of a simulated session.
> Of course that assumes you have
> enough pitchers and you have clinched the playoff spot far in advance
> of the playoffs which doesn't happen often.
always enough. Of course, you could always have your right-fielder pitch
a game. :)
knees to prove it.) And yeah, my approach for football would be *much*
different than my approach for baseball.
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