What Did You Watch? 2012-10-25 (Thursday)

[Ubiquitous]

I watched:

THE O'REILLY FACTOR
• Who won the final debate?
• Morris: Romney proved to women that he is not a 'warmonger'
• Rove: The final two weeks

REMINGTON STEELE:
"Steele Sweet on You". Laura and RS investigate a murder at a dentist's
convention.

IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA

THE LEAGUE

What did you watch?

--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."

[Ubiquitous]

I watched:

THE O'REILLY FACTOR

• We’re done with the debates! Now that the dust has settled, how are
the voters reacting? Laura Ingraham, Kirsten Powers, and Mary Anne
Marsh dissect the presidential polls!
• Ingraham: Romney's anti-woman caricature is 'not working'
• Plus, inside the Lance Armstrong scandal — what really happened?

REMINGTON STEELE:
"Small Town Steele". Laura and RS investigate the disappearance of a
historian in a small town hiding a secret.

IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY IN PHILADELPHIA:
"The Maureen Ponderosa Wedding Massacre". The gang crash Maureen's
wedding and make a disturbing discovery.

THE LEAGUE:
"The Freeze Out". A child's birthday party interferes with Pete's
planned paintball game. Meanwhile, Ruxin has a run-in with a sushi chef.
Het's it's the protagonist from Justified!

[Obveeus]

"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrot:

> What did you watch?


LAST RESORT: another stupid episode where the resolution involves the sub
'opening its doors' for the word to see. Why don't these idiots just keep
the doors open so that no one bothers them? ...and, no, this question is not
being asked as an invitation for stupid responses trying to seriously
explain why the sub cannot tool around with its doors open all the time.
Meanwhile, the Daddy Admiral shoots two people that are surrounded by armed
military guards and yet none of those armed men return fire? The most
annoying part of the episode, though, was the French lady whining about a
potential SEAL death when the alternative was for the entire sub crew to be
killed..and then the SEAL dies anyway. The only good thing in this episode
was some bits of humor involving the COB and his eventual reformation into
someone that can respect a superior officer. I'm beginning to think that
even though there is nothing else on in this time slot, this show is still
too stupid of a premise to sit through each week.

GLEE: I tuned in to FOX and thought G:LEE was back on the air, but it
turned out that Will Shuster was just doing the opening musical performance
for a stick and ball playoff game. I watched some of this game, including
the Detroit pitcher using his head. Giants now up two games in the series.

DEBATE: local candidates take to the air to debate local positions. Half
the time they puppet the exact talking points of the national platform. The
other half of the time they try to translate those themes into their own
words with miserable results. Mostly, all local candidates demonstrate how
amateur they sound in comparison to the national candidates.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 10/26/2012 5:03 AM, Obveeus wrote:
> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrot:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>
> LAST RESORT: another stupid episode where the resolution involves the sub
> 'opening its doors' for the word to see. Why don't these idiots just keep
> the doors open so that no one bothers them? ...and, no, this question is not
> being asked as an invitation for stupid responses trying to seriously
> explain why the sub cannot tool around with its doors open all the time.
> Meanwhile, the Daddy Admiral shoots two people that are surrounded by armed
> military guards and yet none of those armed men return fire? The most
> annoying part of the episode, though, was the French lady whining about a
> potential SEAL death when the alternative was for the entire sub crew to be
> killed..and then the SEAL dies anyway.

Doesn't make it any less unrealistic that she'd whine. I'd have a
problem if the captain (whatever her rank is) endangered the sub by
going after him but as it played out I was fine with it.

The only good thing in this episode
> was some bits of humor involving the COB and his eventual reformation into
> someone that can respect a superior officer. I'm beginning to think that
> even though there is nothing else on in this time slot, this show is still
> too stupid of a premise to sit through each week.

Still, none of that bothers me. I like the show.


I watched:


It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - "The Maureen Ponderosa Wedding
Massacre" A Halloween-ween themed episode has the gang attend a wedding
that turns into a bloody zombie massacre. It was mildly amusing.


The Vampire Diaries - "The Rager" This episode was a bit all over the
place. Elena is now a teenage vampire in high school who has to content
with the jealousy of a centuries old vampire who who shouldn't be
hanging around high school kids anyway. The scene with her on the
motorcycle was one of the worst driving effects I've ever seen. I have
to wonder if it was intentionally fake looking. Meanwhile everyone else
goes up against the vampire hunter. Despite my dislike of the vampire
hunter character, the episode was OK.


South Park - last two episodes; they were so-so.


Nashville - "Someday You'll Call My Name" I didn't follow everything
that was happening between the two singing stars and the drama in their
lives but I still liked the episode. Perhaps this has already been
tried, but I would have liked to hear Juliette (or someone on her staff)
suggest putting her mom into rehab as a condition of receiving future help.

[Ubiquitous]

In article <k6e65f$41u$1...@dont-email.me>, art...@alum.calberkeley.org
wrote:

>It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia - "The Maureen Ponderosa Wedding
>Massacre" A Halloween-ween themed episode has the gang attend a wedding
>that turns into a bloody zombie massacre. It was mildly amusing.

You can't go wrong with an ep that involves the McPoyles.

[tenworld]

I watched:

Big Bang theory: better than last week and the halloween costume party was hilarious, but two episoded in a row about Howard coming down again, they should take a hint from their own script.

2.5 Men: crazy neighbor was back but didnt live up to hype, hopefully setting up for funnier episodes later. Anyone know why Angus isnt realy around, did he go off to school (in real life) or are the writers stuck?

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <k6e65f$41u$1...@dont-email.me>,

Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> The Vampire Diaries - "The Rager" This episode was a bit all over the
> place. Elena is now a teenage vampire in high school who has to content
> with the jealousy of a centuries old vampire who who shouldn't be
> hanging around high school kids anyway. The scene with her on the
> motorcycle was one of the worst driving effects I've ever seen. I have
> to wonder if it was intentionally fake looking. Meanwhile everyone else
> goes up against the vampire hunter. Despite my dislike of the vampire
> hunter character, the episode was OK.

Has Phoebe Tonkin shown up yet? - She's the only thing that could get me
to still sample this show, though I'm done with it overall.

--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <Sk6dh34$b85$2...@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

> What did you watch?

Last Resort - While not as negative on this as Obv was, I also can't
disagree at this show is basically not working as a continuing series
and is bearing the unmistakable hallmarks as a show that's falling apart
as a result. "Reforming" Robert Patrick as the C.O.B. was probably the
most egregious thing in this episode, along with Daisy Betts not using
lethal force against those scumbags on the Illinois.
But as silly, stupid, and unrealistic as this episode was, at least
it was entertaining (and sported the return of Omid Abtahi as the other
NATO outpost operator from the pilot, whom I thought they had just
completely forgotten about!) - next episode (in 2 weeks) looks like
we're going to be subjected to a 1-hour hallucination from Scott
Speedman. Pass. Just, pass.
They really should have designed this series as a 6-8 episode
'limited' series - it would have gone much better for everybody if they
had.
Quickly, this is turning in to the biggest disappointment of the
season.

Person of Interest - After a long winning streak, PoI finally turns in
just a 'middling' effort (let's face it - they were do), that barely had
either Carter or Fusco. Nonetheless, it's a measure of how good this
show is that even a 'middling' episode was pretty entertaining. Oh,
and... SPOILERS!!... everyone's (least?) favorite villain, Elias, shows
up here - I was not expecting a repeat performance like this from him.

[David Barnett]

In article <Sk6dh34$b85$2...@dont-email.me>,
web...@polaris.net says...
>
> What did you watch?

Yesterday I also watched:

CSI: MIAMI: No Good Deed
I've just read that this show has been canceled.
So I have only 4 more episodes to go and I have then sen
the whole show.
Just when Emily Procter now speaks with a more mature
voice. Eva La Rue as Natalia Boa Vista was not in this
episode afaik.

SONS OF ANARCHY: Toad's Wild Ride
Surprise ending - I hope it is not as bad as it appears to
be.

CRIMINAL MINDS: Profiling 101
I found this rather boring.
Only 2 more episodes to the end of the season & I don't
know if Season 8 will be aired here.

ARROW: Lone Gunmen
I still find this show entertaining, but I am ignoring the
stupidities.

This morning, Sat Oct 27, I watched:

JACK IRISH: Black Tide
the 2nd of only 2 shows made so far, and I thought this
one better than the first one, including the music. Also
the blonde did not show her off-putting pancake boobs.

--
David Barnett

[Obveeus]

"Arthur Lipscomb" <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> On 10/26/2012 5:03 AM, Obveeus wrote:

>> LAST RESORT: The most

>> annoying part of the episode, though, was the French lady whining about a
>> potential SEAL death when the alternative was for the entire sub crew to
>> be
>> killed..and then the SEAL dies anyway.
>
> Doesn't make it any less unrealistic that she'd whine.

Sure it does. She is supposed to be intelligent. As an intelligent person,
she knows that the sub going to retrieve him means the sub will be sunk and
he will still die. It doesn't make any sense at all for her to be
crying/whining/demanding that the sub crew go save the SEAL when going to
save him would not save him and instead would lead to many more people,
including herself, dying.

> I'd have a problem if the captain (whatever her rank is) endangered the
> sub by going after him but as it played out I was fine with it.

Agreed that it would have been much worse if they had actually gone to save
him. Along those lines, what was the reason that the SEAL was allowed to
use power tools? As near as I could tell, they *all* agreed it would get
everyone killed, but then the 'Captain' decided it was ok to do it since
that is what people had decided upon earlier before they realized the
ramifications.

[Obveeus]

"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> Last Resort

> - next episode (in 2 weeks) looks like
> we're going to be subjected to a 1-hour hallucination from Scott
> Speedman. Pass. Just, pass.

It did look especially bad.

> Quickly, this is turning in to the biggest disappointment of the
> season.

I'll still give that award to PARTNERS...I'm so tired of CBS pairing HOW I
MET YOUR MOTHER with such poor shows.

[Mason Barge]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:46:23 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>"Arthur Lipscomb" <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/26/2012 5:03 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>> LAST RESORT: The most
>>> annoying part of the episode, though, was the French lady whining about a
>>> potential SEAL death when the alternative was for the entire sub crew to
>>> be
>>> killed..and then the SEAL dies anyway.
>>
>> Doesn't make it any less unrealistic that she'd whine.
>
>Sure it does. She is supposed to be intelligent. As an intelligent person,
>she knows that the sub going to retrieve him means the sub will be sunk and
>he will still die. It doesn't make any sense at all for her to be
>crying/whining/demanding that the sub crew go save the SEAL when going to
>save him would not save him and instead would lead to many more people,
>including herself, dying.

I gotta' go with Arthur here. It's not news that people can act utterly
irrationally in response to strong emotions or pain. I don't think it
makes the character *look* good, but I don't know that it's unrealistic.

I'm thinking the producers just want to highlight the acting captain being
able to make the hard decision even though she's female, or some lame crap
like that.

For some reason, just saying that reminds me of a brilliant bit of cinema
- the look on Wes Studi's face, in "Last of the Mohicans", when the
younger sister steps off the cliff and commits suicide.

[Mason Barge]

PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS -
Harvey knows how to milk a cash cow, don't he? This started *one
week* after Project Runway ended. They really got some knockout outfits
for a first week -- this is going to be a tough contest once they get rid
of the weak players, and they sent the weakest one home immediately.
It's a step down, especially with Joanna Coles as the mentor. She
does try pretty hard, but Tim Gunn is the star of the show and
irreplaceable.
I gotta' say, I'm totally in love with Uli and I hope she wins.
Plus, she has a realistic chance. If she doesn't win, I hope and pray
it's Emilio, who's a great guy and also has a realistic chance.
If one of the bitchy people wins (Wendi, Amy, Josh -- pee eew),
I'm gonna' be sick, but the judges and producers, I think, take
personality into account.
Well, I'm talking to myself since nobody else, except maybe the
obvious choice, would watch this in a million years.

Grade: B+

LAST RESORT -
An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
they have a lot of action. I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators
to save his daughter was actually rather cool. The scene where Autumn
Reeser couldn't get her table at the restaurant was also amusing.
I think the XO's wife had some better material to work with
(meaning "not utterly nauseatingly horrible"), but Jessie Schram is just
terrible in the part.

Grade: C-

AMERICAN HORROR STORY -
This is actually pretty good, again. I don't really like the
liberal-political agenda that is creeping in this season. But James
Cameron does creepy as well as anyone in the business, and Jessica Lange
(who I have pretty much hated, other than her breakout performance in King
Kong) is doing even better this year than last.

Grade: B

[Obveeus]

"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:46:23 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>>>> LAST RESORT:

>>Sure it does. She is supposed to be intelligent. As an intelligent
>>person,
>>she knows that the sub going to retrieve him means the sub will be sunk
>>and
>>he will still die. It doesn't make any sense at all for her to be
>>crying/whining/demanding that the sub crew go save the SEAL when going to
>>save him would not save him and instead would lead to many more people,
>>including herself, dying.
>
> I gotta' go with Arthur here. It's not news that people can act utterly
> irrationally in response to strong emotions or pain. I don't think it
> makes the character *look* good, but I don't know that it's unrealistic.
>
> I'm thinking the producers just want to highlight the acting captain being
> able to make the hard decision even though she's female, or some lame crap
> like that.

Oh, I agree fully that the setup here was simply designed to show that she
had what it takes...despite the fact that we already saw from prior episodes
that she is the ONLY one that has what it takes (in terms of killing
someone) if needed. And, of course, the COB was right there to witness the
manliless and salute appropriately.

[Obveeus]

"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS -
> Harvey knows how to milk a cash cow, don't he?

Yep...they just did the last PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS earlier this year.

> Well, I'm talking to myself since nobody else, except maybe the
> obvious choice, would watch this in a million years.

I decided not to bother watching last night, but maybe I will tune in at
some point.

> LAST RESORT -
> An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
> they have a lot of action. I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators
> to save his daughter was actually rather cool.

...except that it didn't result in him being shot or result in him
'defecting' to the island.

> I think the XO's wife had some better material to work with
> (meaning "not utterly nauseatingly horrible"), but Jessie Schram is just
> terrible in the part.

It was good that she was able to figure out that she was being conned by the
XO's 'old friend'.

[Mason Barge]

Pretty much everything he does makes me want to puke. I hate him even
more than the Lady Captain.

[Mason Barge]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:59:36 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS -
>> Harvey knows how to milk a cash cow, don't he?
>
>Yep...they just did the last PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS earlier this year.
>
>> Well, I'm talking to myself since nobody else, except maybe the
>> obvious choice, would watch this in a million years.
>
>I decided not to bother watching last night, but maybe I will tune in at
>some point.
>
>
>> LAST RESORT -
>> An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
>> they have a lot of action. I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators
>> to save his daughter was actually rather cool.
>
>...except that it didn't result in him being shot or result in him
>'defecting' to the island.

I can see the enlisted escort being hesitant to shoot an admiral who is on
their team. It's a stretch but not 100% impossible.

I assume he will be arrested and tried for murder (if that awful woman is
dead) or attempted murder.

>> I think the XO's wife had some better material to work with
>> (meaning "not utterly nauseatingly horrible"), but Jessie Schram is just
>> terrible in the part.
>
>It was good that she was able to figure out that she was being conned by the
>XO's 'old friend'.

She got some pretty good material, with the lawyer busting her out of
detention, getting to scream at the news cameras, and the guy busting
moves on her. Some better acting would go a long way here.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 10/26/2012 3:45 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:59:36 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>

>>
>>
>>> LAST RESORT -
>>> An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
>>> they have a lot of action. I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators
>>> to save his daughter was actually rather cool.
>>
>> ...except that it didn't result in him being shot or result in him
>> 'defecting' to the island.
>
> I can see the enlisted escort being hesitant to shoot an admiral who is on
> their team. It's a stretch but not 100% impossible.
>
> I assume he will be arrested and tried for murder (if that awful woman is
> dead) or attempted murder.

Why waste a perfectly good murder on the admiral when it can be pinned
on the captain instead?

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 10/26/2012 2:26 PM, Mason Barge wrote:

>
> LAST RESORT -
> An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
> they have a lot of action.

Crimson Tide the series.

I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators
> to save his daughter was actually rather cool. The scene where Autumn
> Reeser couldn't get her table at the restaurant was also amusing.
> I think the XO's wife had some better material to work with
> (meaning "not utterly nauseatingly horrible"), but Jessie Schram is just
> terrible in the part.
>
> Grade: C-
>
> AMERICAN HORROR STORY -
> This is actually pretty good, again. I don't really like the
> liberal-political agenda that is creeping in this season.

I hope I don't regret asking this, but what liberal-political agenda?

But James
> Cameron

James Cromwell

does creepy as well as anyone in the business,

Agreed. Quite a departure from the nice guys he usually plays.

and Jessica Lange
> (who I have pretty much hated, other than her breakout performance in King
> Kong) is doing even better this year than last.
>

She's scarier than the demon.

[Dano]

"Arthur Lipscomb" wrote in message news:k6f5h0$8ij$2...@dont-email.me...

======================================

You're overlooking the tidbit about them never publicly admitting this meet
ever took place. They'll have to use some other cover for her death. The
administration would never want this whole botched event being admitted to.
Never happened.

[Obveeus]

"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:59:36 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> LAST RESORT -
>>> An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
>>> they have a lot of action. I thought the admiral shooting the
>>> negotiators
>>> to save his daughter was actually rather cool.
>>
>>...except that it didn't result in him being shot or result in him
>>'defecting' to the island.
>
> I can see the enlisted escort being hesitant to shoot an admiral who is on
> their team. It's a stretch but not 100% impossible.
>
> I assume he will be arrested and tried for murder (if that awful woman is
> dead) or attempted murder.

They can't do that since the last thing they seem to want is a public trial.
At this pooint, they also couldn't let the Admiral go free since he might
talk to the press. The only logical thing to do would be to kill him
(making it look like a car accident or heart attack or even suicide over the
trauma of his daughter becoming a treasonous terrorist). So, since this
show isn't logical, they will probably black mail him into staying quiet or
hold him prisoner in some way that still allows him to talk to the other
characters or some similar silliness.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 10/26/2012 12:50 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> In article <k6e65f$41u$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> The Vampire Diaries - "The Rager" This episode was a bit all over the
>> place. Elena is now a teenage vampire in high school who has to content
>> with the jealousy of a centuries old vampire who who shouldn't be
>> hanging around high school kids anyway. The scene with her on the
>> motorcycle was one of the worst driving effects I've ever seen. I have
>> to wonder if it was intentionally fake looking. Meanwhile everyone else
>> goes up against the vampire hunter. Despite my dislike of the vampire
>> hunter character, the episode was OK.
>
> Has Phoebe Tonkin shown up yet? -

Yes. She plays a werewolf.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 10/26/2012 1:46 PM, Obveeus wrote:
> "Arthur Lipscomb" <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/26/2012 5:03 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>> LAST RESORT: The most
>>> annoying part of the episode, though, was the French lady whining about a
>>> potential SEAL death when the alternative was for the entire sub crew to
>>> be
>>> killed..and then the SEAL dies anyway.
>>
>> Doesn't make it any less unrealistic that she'd whine.
>
> Sure it does. She is supposed to be intelligent. As an intelligent person,

Intelligent people say and do stupid things every day, especially when
emotion is involved.

Personally, I hate it when characters *do* stupids things but I have a
higher tolerance for characters *saying* stupid things; at least if it's
acknowledged on the show as being stupid and it was here.

> she knows that the sub going to retrieve him means the sub will be sunk and
> he will still die. It doesn't make any sense at all for her to be
> crying/whining/demanding that the sub crew go save the SEAL when going to
> save him would not save him and instead would lead to many more people,
> including herself, dying.

If I had half a cent for every time someone demanded something that
didn't make any sense, I'd be a zillionaire. :-)

What wouldn't make any sense is if the crew gave in on her demands.

>
>> I'd have a problem if the captain (whatever her rank is) endangered the
>> sub by going after him but as it played out I was fine with it.
>
> Agreed that it would have been much worse if they had actually gone to save
> him. Along those lines, what was the reason that the SEAL was allowed to
> use power tools? As near as I could tell, they *all* agreed it would get
> everyone killed, but then the 'Captain' decided it was ok to do it since
> that is what people had decided upon earlier before they realized the
> ramifications.
>
>

I don't know I wasn't paying that close attention to those particular
details.

I was thinking while watching that the show overall just doesn't seem
sustainable. I like it but where can it go? I just don't see a
scenario where in season 2 they get cleared and the captain sails off on
new missions each week. I wonder what kind of a long term plan, if any,
do the writers have plotted out.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <qoul88pb61pkf4dhk...@4ax.com>,

Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> LAST RESORT -
> An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
> they have a lot of action. I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators
> to save his daughter was actually rather cool.

Yeah, assuming she's the same negotiator bitch from last week who's
opening gambit was 'we're gonna hold your son's body hostage' ... I was
sitting through this entire episode hoping somebody would shoot
SOMEbody, and she was my number one choice, and he freaking killed her,
too! Yay!

The scene where Autumn
> Reeser couldn't get her table at the restaurant was also amusing.
> I think the XO's wife had some better material to work with
> (meaning "not utterly nauseatingly horrible"), but Jessie Schram is just
> terrible in the part.

Yes, but this regains the title of 'worst show on television' due to
some of the worst writing imaginable. Why does French NATO girl know
all about the array that she has nothing to do with? Didn't French NATO
guy leave the island last week? Dichen not only showed us the hideous
tattoos on her back, but one on her arm/hand. It's only been a week
since this whole thing started? Here's an idea ... instead of sneaking
out to fix the array, why not cruise out with your missile doors open
saying 'leave us the fuck alone'? And why aim all 4 missiles at D.C. -
certainly there must be other places worth blowing to Hell. The dialog
between the lady captain and the lady NATO was painful and embarrassing,
and Daisy Betts ... well, let's just say it's a good thing she's pretty.
There are THOUSANDS of inhabitants on Taratupa?

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6f14a$kjb$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> "Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS -
> > Harvey knows how to milk a cash cow, don't he?
>
> Yep...they just did the last PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS earlier this year.
>
> > Well, I'm talking to myself since nobody else, except maybe the
> > obvious choice, would watch this in a million years.
>
> I decided not to bother watching last night, but maybe I will tune in at
> some point.
>
>
> > LAST RESORT -
> > An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
> > they have a lot of action. I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators
> > to save his daughter was actually rather cool.
>
> ...except that it didn't result in him being shot or result in him
> 'defecting' to the island.

And yet they acted like they were giving the daughter bad news at the
end.

>
> > I think the XO's wife had some better material to work with
> > (meaning "not utterly nauseatingly horrible"), but Jessie Schram is just
> > terrible in the part.
>
> It was good that she was able to figure out that she was being conned by the
> XO's 'old friend'.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <ec4m88t22038d0mvq...@4ax.com>,

Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:59:36 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS -
> >> Harvey knows how to milk a cash cow, don't he?
> >
> >Yep...they just did the last PROJECT RUNWAY ALL STARS earlier this year.
> >
> >> Well, I'm talking to myself since nobody else, except maybe the
> >> obvious choice, would watch this in a million years.
> >
> >I decided not to bother watching last night, but maybe I will tune in at
> >some point.
> >
> >
> >> LAST RESORT -
> >> An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
> >> they have a lot of action. I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators
> >> to save his daughter was actually rather cool.
> >
> >...except that it didn't result in him being shot or result in him
> >'defecting' to the island.
>
> I can see the enlisted escort being hesitant to shoot an admiral who is on
> their team. It's a stretch but not 100% impossible.
>
> I assume he will be arrested and tried for murder (if that awful woman is
> dead) or attempted murder.

She's dead; they said so. But they also said it would officially never
happen, which makes it hard to try him.

>
> >> I think the XO's wife had some better material to work with
> >> (meaning "not utterly nauseatingly horrible"), but Jessie Schram is just
> >> terrible in the part.
> >
> >It was good that she was able to figure out that she was being conned by the
> >XO's 'old friend'.
>
> She got some pretty good material, with the lawyer busting her out of
> detention, getting to scream at the news cameras, and the guy busting
> moves on her. Some better acting would go a long way here.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <0d2953be-7ffc-4be4...@googlegroups.com>,

tenworld <t...@world.std.com> wrote:

> I watched:
>
> Big Bang theory: better than last week and the halloween costume party was
> hilarious,

agreed

but two episoded in a row about Howard coming down again, they
> should take a hint from their own script.
>
> 2.5 Men: crazy neighbor was back but didnt live up to hype, hopefully
> setting up for funnier episodes later. Anyone know why Angus isnt realy
> around, did he go off to school (in real life) or are the writers stuck?

He went to college in real life.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2af59ddd9...@news.bigpond.com>,

David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> In article <Sk6dh34$b85$2...@dont-email.me>,
> web...@polaris.net says...
> >
> > What did you watch?
>
> Yesterday I also watched:
>
> CSI: MIAMI: No Good Deed
> I've just read that this show has been canceled.
> So I have only 4 more episodes to go and I have then sen
> the whole show.
> Just when Emily Procter now speaks with a more mature
> voice. Eva La Rue as Natalia Boa Vista was not in this
> episode afaik.

Emily is joining White Collar. :)

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6du62$ihv$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>

wrote:

> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrot:
>
> > What did you watch?
>
>
> LAST RESORT: another stupid episode where the resolution involves the sub
> 'opening its doors' for the word to see. Why don't these idiots just keep
> the doors open so that no one bothers them? ...

Yep. And if all the world can see that their doors are open, can't all
the world see them all the time? Nobody even mentioned the cloak this
week did they?

and, no, this question is not
> being asked as an invitation for stupid responses trying to seriously
> explain why the sub cannot tool around with its doors open all the time.
> Meanwhile, the Daddy Admiral shoots two people that are surrounded by armed
> military guards and yet none of those armed men return fire?

Return fire? They should have joined him and put 200 or 300 extra
rounds in the negotiator bitch just to make sure.

The most
> annoying part of the episode, though, was the French lady whining about a
> potential SEAL death when the alternative was for the entire sub crew to be
> killed..

That was some of the worst dialog I've ever heard. In fact, I'm going
to go see who wrote this mess ... Hmm. David Wiener. Only his second
script. Oh, and WHY did they need a skeleton crew on the boat in the
first place? They have 150 people, only about 20 were on shore,
presumably 50 is a full crew, unless they only have 2 shifts, and even
then 75 is a full crew.

and then the SEAL dies anyway. The only good thing in this episode

> was some bits of humor involving the COB and his eventual reformation into
> someone that can respect a superior officer. I'm beginning to think that
> even though there is nothing else on in this time slot, this show is still
> too stupid of a premise to sit through each week.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6esr1$pmc$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

He had to use power tools to get the job done with his allotted air; it
didn't occur to anybody to have him take spare tanks.

[Ian J. Ball]

Wow, I hope that's not true - she's totally unneeded there.

[BTR1701]

In article <anim8rfsk-CBE01...@news.easynews.com>,

anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> Yeah, assuming she's the same negotiator bitch from last week who's
> opening gambit was 'we're gonna hold your son's body hostage'

And really, how silly is that in terms of something to hold over the
captain's head in this kind of situation?

"We're not going to bury your kid until you give up?" Seriously?

This guy has launched nukes in the general direction of the US, he's
stolen a sub full of a bunch more, and you think he's gonna surrender
because you threaten to leave his dead kid in the morgue for a while
instead of moving him into a coffin?

> There are THOUSANDS of inhabitants on Taratupa?

Looks like about two dozen to me.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <03a37285-504c-46c9...@googlegroups.com>,

She's going to be the new FBI boss.

[Obveeus]

"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>> LAST RESORT -

> Yes, but this regains the title of 'worst show on television'

Easily.

> Why does French NATO girl know
> all about the array that she has nothing to do with?

Apparently the island's listening post is so important that they had a
battery operated anti-sub listening fence installed years ago. I was
wondering, though, if the people on the island cannot install new batteries,
why did they have a supply of new batteries?

> Didn't French NATO guy leave the island last week?

I think that was the mining guy (the one looking for the Unobtanium) who
left last week.

> Here's an idea ... instead of sneaking
> out to fix the array, why not cruise out with your missile doors open
> saying 'leave us the fuck alone'?

Amen. 3 episodes of this short series have already had 'our doors are now
open' resolutions and it just screams STUPID.

> And why aim all 4 missiles at D.C. -

Just to be sure.

> certainly there must be other places worth blowing to Hell.

Where is the LAST RESORT studio located?

> The dialog
> between the lady captain and the lady NATO was painful and embarrassing,

Yes it was. Cringeworthy...and it kept going and going.

> There are THOUSANDS of inhabitants on Taratupa?

The jungles are full of mafia henchmen, Australian scholars that have
dropped out of society, and Russian military commandos.

[Obveeus]

"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <k6du62$ihv$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrot:
>>
>> > What did you watch?
>>
>>
>> LAST RESORT: another stupid episode where the resolution involves the
>> sub
>> 'opening its doors' for the word to see. Why don't these idiots just
>> keep
>> the doors open so that no one bothers them? ...
>
> Yep. And if all the world can see that their doors are open, can't all
> the world see them all the time?

When the doors are closed, the missles are invisible.

> Nobody even mentioned the cloak this week did they?

Not really mentioned, except for the girls back home chatting about it just
after one of them broke into the other one's house in the middle of the
night. Since it doesn't work, no point in mentioning it...and the sub crew
already managed to change out half the electrical systems on the ship with
the spare parts they carry. The cloak may never get mentioned again since
the important issue is apparently the GPS recorder imbedded in it rather
than the invisibility cloak itself.

>> Meanwhile, the Daddy Admiral shoots two people that are surrounded by
>> armed
>> military guards and yet none of those armed men return fire?
>
> Return fire? They should have joined him and put 200 or 300 extra
> rounds in the negotiator bitch just to make sure.

Well, sure, but that is kind of like claiming that the Illinois crew is
evil. All these soldiers are doing is actually following orders from their
commander...unlike the Admiral or the Colorado Captain or the Colorado crew
which are all 'doing their own thing'.

> That was some of the worst dialog I've ever heard. In fact, I'm going
> to go see who wrote this mess ... Hmm. David Wiener. Only his second
> script. Oh, and WHY did they need a skeleton crew on the boat in the
> first place? They have 150 people, only about 20 were on shore,
> presumably 50 is a full crew, unless they only have 2 shifts, and even
> then 75 is a full crew.

I'm still wondering how many people are on the 'I quit' list from last week.
Last week it looked like the resolution was for nearly everyone to rejoin
the crew, but this week the XO mentioned that 71 people (or some high number
like that) signed the opt out list.

[Obveeus]

"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <k6esr1$pmc$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:

>> >> LAST RESORT: The most

>>Along those lines, what was the reason that the SEAL was allowed to
>> use power tools? As near as I could tell, they *all* agreed it would get
>> everyone killed, but then the 'Captain' decided it was ok to do it since
>> that is what people had decided upon earlier before they realized the
>> ramifications.
>
> He had to use power tools to get the job done with his allotted air; it
> didn't occur to anybody to have him take spare tanks.

Thanks for the clarification.

[shawn]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:31:34 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:

Ugh...

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <k6fhg4$9mt$1...@dont-email.me>,

Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> On 10/26/2012 12:50 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> > In article <k6e65f$41u$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >
> >> The Vampire Diaries - "The Rager" This episode was a bit all over the
> >> place. Elena is now a teenage vampire in high school who has to content
> >> with the jealousy of a centuries old vampire who who shouldn't be
> >> hanging around high school kids anyway. The scene with her on the
> >> motorcycle was one of the worst driving effects I've ever seen. I have
> >> to wonder if it was intentionally fake looking. Meanwhile everyone else
> >> goes up against the vampire hunter. Despite my dislike of the vampire
> >> hunter character, the episode was OK.
> >
> > Has Phoebe Tonkin shown up yet? -
>
> Yes. She plays a werewolf.

I tried flipping over on Thursday, and I didn't see her once - she must
have barely been in the episode.

--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <1opn88pvc71uut0fe...@4ax.com>,

Double ugh - James Rehborn was actually WC's secret weapon; as it is,
they never used him enough.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6gl00$gec$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

NP. It was practically a throwaway; while Betts was having her hissy,
SEAL said something like "I won't get one bolt done before I run out of
air"

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6gku6$g4h$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <k6du62$ihv$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrot:
> >>
> >> > What did you watch?
> >>
> >>
> >> LAST RESORT: another stupid episode where the resolution involves the
> >> sub
> >> 'opening its doors' for the word to see. Why don't these idiots just
> >> keep
> >> the doors open so that no one bothers them? ...
> >
> > Yep. And if all the world can see that their doors are open, can't all
> > the world see them all the time?
>
> When the doors are closed, the missles are invisible.

heh. Artificial missiles.

>
> > Nobody even mentioned the cloak this week did they?
>
> Not really mentioned, except for the girls back home chatting about it just
> after one of them broke into the other one's house in the middle of the
> night. Since it doesn't work, no point in mentioning it...and the sub crew
> already managed to change out half the electrical systems on the ship with
> the spare parts they carry. The cloak may never get mentioned again since
> the important issue is apparently the GPS recorder imbedded in it rather
> than the invisibility cloak itself.

Yeah. But then Amber's entire agenda from the first couple eps about
getting a new cloak on another sub seems ... pointless.

>
> >> Meanwhile, the Daddy Admiral shoots two people that are surrounded by
> >> armed
> >> military guards and yet none of those armed men return fire?
> >
> > Return fire? They should have joined him and put 200 or 300 extra
> > rounds in the negotiator bitch just to make sure.
>
> Well, sure, but that is kind of like claiming that the Illinois crew is
> evil. All these soldiers are doing is actually following orders from their
> commander...unlike the Admiral or the Colorado Captain or the Colorado crew
> which are all 'doing their own thing'.

Oh, absolutely; I don't blame the Illinois for obeying orders, although
I can see where if Betts is gonna start firing on US Subs anyway, the
Illinois would be her first target.

>
> > That was some of the worst dialog I've ever heard. In fact, I'm going
> > to go see who wrote this mess ... Hmm. David Wiener. Only his second
> > script. Oh, and WHY did they need a skeleton crew on the boat in the
> > first place? They have 150 people, only about 20 were on shore,
> > presumably 50 is a full crew, unless they only have 2 shifts, and even
> > then 75 is a full crew.
>
> I'm still wondering how many people are on the 'I quit' list from last week.
> Last week it looked like the resolution was for nearly everyone to rejoin
> the crew, but this week the XO mentioned that 71 people (or some high number
> like that) signed the opt out list.

Yeah, but this is still THE SAME FREAKING DAY. Their non disclose
covered the events 'of the last week' - and it was a week since the
Illinois fired on 'em last week! So I assume the opt out folk didn't go
home, at least not yet.

[anim8rFSK]

In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-5B3...@news.eternal-september.org>,

"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:

> In article <1opn88pvc71uut0fe...@4ax.com>,
> shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:31:34 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
> > wrote:
> > >In article <03a37285-504c-46c9...@googlegroups.com>,
> > > "Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
> > >> On Friday, October 26, 2012 9:41:56 PM UTC-7, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > >> > In article <MPG.2af59ddd9...@news.bigpond.com>,
> > >> > David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > CSI: MIAMI: No Good Deed
> > >> > > I've just read that this show has been canceled.
> > >> > > So I have only 4 more episodes to go and I have then sen
> > >> > > the whole show.
> > >> > > Just when Emily Procter now speaks with a more mature
> > >> > > voice. Eva La Rue as Natalia Boa Vista was not in this
> > >> > > episode afaik.
> > >> >
> > >> > Emily is joining White Collar. :)
> > >>
> > >> Wow, I hope that's not true - she's totally unneeded there.
> > >
> > >She's going to be the new FBI boss.
> >
> > Ugh...
>
> Double ugh - James Rehborn was actually WC's secret weapon; as it is,
> they never used him enough.

Agreed, if that's who she's replacing, he'll be missed.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6gkcs$d7h$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> LAST RESORT -
> > Yes, but this regains the title of 'worst show on television'
>
> Easily.
>
> > Why does French NATO girl know
> > all about the array that she has nothing to do with?
>
> Apparently the island's listening post is so important that they had a
> battery operated anti-sub listening fence installed years ago.

And what GOOD does it do them?? I mean, so a sub can't sneak up on
them? Who the Hell cares? It's 26 miles out, just launch something
from 27 miles and blow them to Hell.

I was
> wondering, though, if the people on the island cannot install new batteries,
> why did they have a supply of new batteries?

LOL, good call.

>
> > Didn't French NATO guy leave the island last week?
>
> I think that was the mining guy (the one looking for the Unobtanium) who
> left last week.

k, thanks

>
> > Here's an idea ... instead of sneaking
> > out to fix the array, why not cruise out with your missile doors open
> > saying 'leave us the fuck alone'?
>
> Amen. 3 episodes of this short series have already had 'our doors are now
> open' resolutions and it just screams STUPID.
>
> > And why aim all 4 missiles at D.C. -
>
> Just to be sure.
>
> > certainly there must be other places worth blowing to Hell.
>
> Where is the LAST RESORT studio located?

Why are they even filming this in Hawai'i?

> > The dialog
> > between the lady captain and the lady NATO was painful and embarrassing,
>
> Yes it was. Cringeworthy...and it kept going and going.
>
> > There are THOUSANDS of inhabitants on Taratupa?
>
> The jungles are full of mafia henchmen, Australian scholars that have
> dropped out of society, and Russian military commandos.

hee hee

[Hunter]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:46:23 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>"Arthur Lipscomb" <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>

>> On 10/26/2012 5:03 AM, Obveeus wrote:
>>> LAST RESORT: The most

>>> annoying part of the episode, though, was the French lady whining about a
>>> potential SEAL death when the alternative was for the entire sub crew to
>>> be
>>> killed..and then the SEAL dies anyway.
>>
>> Doesn't make it any less unrealistic that she'd whine.
>
>Sure it does. She is supposed to be intelligent. As an intelligent person,
>she knows that the sub going to retrieve him means the sub will be sunk and
>he will still die. It doesn't make any sense at all for her to be
>crying/whining/demanding that the sub crew go save the SEAL when going to
>save him would not save him and instead would lead to many more people,
>including herself, dying.

-----
She is a civilian land lubber and so can look at it objectively like
that.

>
>> I'd have a problem if the captain (whatever her rank is) endangered the
>> sub by going after him but as it played out I was fine with it.
>
>Agreed that it would have been much worse if they had actually gone to save

>him. Along those lines, what was the reason that the SEAL was allowed to

>use power tools? As near as I could tell, they *all* agreed it would get
>everyone killed, but then the 'Captain' decided it was ok to do it since
>that is what people had decided upon earlier before they realized the
>ramifications.

-------
Speed. Using a manual wrench would've taken longer to undo the bolts,
switch out the batteries and then replace the bolts longer than he had
air in his tank. They tried to cover up the noise and they were
successful but the other subs sensed that the bouy was down and went
through.

------>Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

[~consul]

'tis on this 10/27/2012 12:39 AM, wrote anim8rFSK thus to say:
> Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> LAST RESORT -

>> I assume he will be arrested and tried for murder (if that awful woman is
>> dead) or attempted murder.
> She's dead; they said so. But they also said it would officially never
> happen, which makes it hard to try him.

What were they saying "never happened"? The meeting, because it seemed that this was through normal channels, and at the very least, they let in one battleship inside the perimeter, which is very visible to the other ships and to satellite & radar of all the othe ships and subs from the US and other nations.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>

[Mason Barge]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:34:35 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>> LAST RESORT -
>> Yes, but this regains the title of 'worst show on television'
>
>Easily.

I'm back with "Revolution". For me, it's a clear choice. (Not that Last
Resort is an unworthy competitor.)

[Mason Barge]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:20:59 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb
<art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>On 10/26/2012 2:26 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
>
>>
>> LAST RESORT -
>> An improvement. I was able to stand a lot of it, and at least
>> they have a lot of action.
>

>Crimson Tide the series.

>
>I thought the admiral shooting the negotiators

>> to save his daughter was actually rather cool. The scene where Autumn

>> Reeser couldn't get her table at the restaurant was also amusing.

>> I think the XO's wife had some better material to work with
>> (meaning "not utterly nauseatingly horrible"), but Jessie Schram is just
>> terrible in the part.
>>

>> Grade: C-
>>
>> AMERICAN HORROR STORY -
>> This is actually pretty good, again. I don't really like the
>> liberal-political agenda that is creeping in this season.
>
>I hope I don't regret asking this, but what liberal-political agenda?

Mostly the long explanation from Chloe Sevigny about how her husband can
screw around, but let her do it, and she gets declared insane. It really
added nothing to the plot or characters. The Catholic bashing I don't
mind per se, but it's cumulative.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 10/27/2012 9:45 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> In article <k6fhg4$9mt$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/26/2012 12:50 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> In article <k6e65f$41u$1...@dont-email.me>,
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Vampire Diaries - "The Rager" This episode was a bit all over the
>>>> place. Elena is now a teenage vampire in high school who has to content
>>>> with the jealousy of a centuries old vampire who who shouldn't be
>>>> hanging around high school kids anyway. The scene with her on the
>>>> motorcycle was one of the worst driving effects I've ever seen. I have
>>>> to wonder if it was intentionally fake looking. Meanwhile everyone else
>>>> goes up against the vampire hunter. Despite my dislike of the vampire
>>>> hunter character, the episode was OK.
>>>
>>> Has Phoebe Tonkin shown up yet? -
>>
>> Yes. She plays a werewolf.
>
> I tried flipping over on Thursday, and I didn't see her once - she must
> have barely been in the episode.
>

They just introduced her character. I think she only had two or three
scenes. I was a bit confused because the way they were talking was as
if she was previously on the show but that was her first appearance.

[David V. Loewe, Jr]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:52:05, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>Oh, and WHY did they need a skeleton crew on the boat in the
>first place?

Who knows?

>They have 150 people, only about 20 were on shore,
>presumably 50 is a full crew, unless they only have 2 shifts, and even
>then 75 is a full crew.

No. A full crew is a full crew - meaning the number assigned (that ~150
you mentioned). Going out with significantly less than that qualifies
as a "skeleton crew." Looked like they, for some reason - don't ask me
why - only had one watch on board. They apparently didn't expect to be
out for much more than 6 hours (which is reasonable - an hour and a half
at some quiet [I can neither confirm nor deny] speed out to the sonar
array, time there to install the battery and an hour and a half to
return). I'D have taken enough for two watches.

Well at least you're kvetching about something they actually got wrong
for a change.
--
"Doctor, Doctor, help me please, I know you'll understand
There's a time device inside of me, I'm a self-destructin' man."
Raymond Douglas Davies

[chicagofan]

Hey! I hope this works outs. If she's just a nasty counterpoint to Peter and Neal, I'm not sure I'll like it. :)
bj

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6hug8$hh1$1...@dont-email.me>, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

Agreed

[anim8rFSK]

In article <pjho88hdtlq5460p2...@4ax.com>,

I maintain that each episode of each series is stupider than whatever
aired last.

[Obveeus]

Sure, but if the final tally after the grenade incident was still 71 crew
members wanting to opt out it probably means that 71 guys (and gals) are
getting drunk at the island bar, stealing bananas from little kids, and
getting abducted by mafia right now rather than staying on the boat where
they should be staying 24/7. If the moronic Captain doesn't see a reason to
keep his crew on board the boat under these conditions, he certainly isn't
going to keep the people that quit onboard.

[BTR1701]

In article <anim8rfsk-2D8B1...@news.easynews.com>,

anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <pjho88hdtlq5460p2...@4ax.com>,
> Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:34:35 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >
> > >>> LAST RESORT -
> > >> Yes, but this regains the title of 'worst show on television'
> > >
> > >Easily.
> >
> > I'm back with "Revolution". For me, it's a clear choice. (Not that Last
> > Resort is an unworthy competitor.)
>
> I maintain that each episode of each series is stupider than whatever
> aired last.

I'm about two episodes behind on LAST RESORT, so this may have been
asked elsewhere, but where did the crew get the military trucks and
jeeps that they're using to tool around the island?

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6hgcf$l5l$3...@dont-email.me>,

~consul <con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com> wrote:

> 'tis on this 10/27/2012 12:39 AM, wrote anim8rFSK thus to say:
> > Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> LAST RESORT -
> >> I assume he will be arrested and tried for murder (if that awful woman is
> >> dead) or attempted murder.
> > She's dead; they said so. But they also said it would officially never
> > happen, which makes it hard to try him.
>
> What were they saying "never happened"? The meeting, because it seemed that
> this was through normal channels, and at the very least, they let in one
> battleship inside the perimeter, which is very visible to the other ships and
> to satellite & radar of all the othe ships and subs from the US and other
> nations.

They said the shooting never happened; both the bitch and the guy. But
the Captain assumes NONE of it happened.

It's at the end, when we get the good news:

"A senior White House advisor was killed here today, sir. The Secretary
himself took a bullet."
"No he didn't. Curry(?) knows the game. Never admit to being attacked
unless you're prepared to pay the price for your response. So this
never happened, and they were never here."

I agree with you that this makes NO sense whatsoever. Hundreds of
people, civilian and military, know this happened; thousands know some
part of it happened.. This is the kind of writing that makes LAST
RESORT the stupidest show on television, at least until the next episode
of REVOLUTION airs. :)

I also don't understand Betts' shouted command DIVE THIRTY DEGREES UP
ANGLE!

[Obveeus]

"BTR1701" <atr...@mac.com> wrote:

> I'm about two episodes behind on LAST RESORT, so this may have been
> asked elsewhere, but where did the crew get the military trucks and
> jeeps that they're using to tool around the island?

Likely they are NATO outpost vehicles.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6idl0$qih$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> "BTR1701" <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm about two episodes behind on LAST RESORT, so this may have been
> > asked elsewhere, but where did the crew get the military trucks and
> > jeeps that they're using to tool around the island?

I have no idea on God's green Earth. I'd like to think they took them
from the local mafia, but they had them the first time they went to meet
with the local mafia, and bent over and dropped their britches for him.

>
> Likely they are NATO outpost vehicles.

The NATO outpost has 3 people working it? How many vehicles do they
need?

[shawn]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:35:38 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>

I didn't believe you until I looked up the info online. Though one
good thing is they say she is only on two episodes this season, but
I'm sure she will be a major part in those episodes because they say
that she's being brought in to keep Peter and Neal on the straight and
narrow.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <mjmp88pds07gqifoa...@4ax.com>,

Hey! Harumph! :(

Though one
> good thing is they say she is only on two episodes this season, but
> I'm sure she will be a major part in those episodes because they say
> that she's being brought in to keep Peter and Neal on the straight and
> narrow.

[BTR1701]

In article <k6idl0$qih$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

Why would a NATO outpost with three non-military people manning it need
several jeeps and a deuce-and-a-half?

[David Johnston]

Hypothetically, because the installation used to be bigger, and some of the equipment was left behind when the personnel were pulled out.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

To help transport the heavy equipment used in building/running it. Then
when the military was done they left/sold the trucks to the locals.

[David V. Loewe, Jr]

The OOD (Officer of the Deck) often holds the Deck and the Conn (the
Conning Officer). In the case shown, LT Shepard does hold both. The
officer who holds the Conn is often addressed as "Conn."

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Officer_of_the_deck>

Other supervisory personnel in Control include the Diving Officer Of The
Watch. He supervises, amongst other personnel and things, the Helmsman
and Planesman (he sits directly behind and between them). Orders for
course changes and angle changes go through the Diving Officer. The
Conning Officer (Conn) addresses those orders to the Diving Officer who
is referred to as the Dive.

So it is "Dive!" - to designate who the order is going to - "Thirty
degrees up angle!" - which was the order to adjust the planes.
--
"The limit of the willing suspension of disbelief for a given element is
directly proportional to its degree of coolness."
- TV Tropes

[BTR1701]

In article <k6jpk8$44b$1...@dont-email.me>,

Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> On 10/28/2012 9:56 AM, BTR1701 wrote:
> > In article <k6idl0$qih$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "BTR1701" <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm about two episodes behind on LAST RESORT, so this may have been
> >>> asked elsewhere, but where did the crew get the military trucks and
> >>> jeeps that they're using to tool around the island?
> >>
> >> Likely they are NATO outpost vehicles.
> >
> > Why would a NATO outpost with three non-military people
> > manning it need several jeeps and a deuce-and-a-half?

> To help transport the heavy equipment used in building/running it.

Running it doesn't require heavy transport of any kind. As for building
it, they'd use construction equipment, not Humvees and troop transports.

> Then when the military was done they left/sold the trucks to the
> locals.

Why would the military do that? That makes no sense.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6jpk8$44b$1...@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

Uh ... and then what? The Colorado just STOLE them? They're having
fights over stealing bananas!

[David Johnston]

On Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:19:53 PM UTC-7, BTR1701 wrote:

>
>
> Why would the military do that? That makes no sense.

The military sells surplus equipment all the time.

[BTR1701]

In article <705859ea-5952-4652...@googlegroups.com>,

Not that way, they don't.

Besides, as Anim8R pointed out, even if they did, the trucks belong to
the locals. Did they just take them? If so, why are they throwing guys
in the brig for taking bananas?

[David Barnett]

In article <anim8rfsk-D2ADC1.21415426102012
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...

>
> In article <MPG.2af59ddd9...@news.bigpond.com>,
> David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>

> > In article <Sk6dh34$b85$2...@dont-email.me>,
> > web...@polaris.net says...
> > >
> > > What did you watch?
> >
> > Yesterday I also watched:
> >

> > CSI: MIAMI: No Good Deed
> > I've just read that this show has been canceled.
> > So I have only 4 more episodes to go and I have then sen
> > the whole show.
> > Just when Emily Procter now speaks with a more mature
> > voice. Eva La Rue as Natalia Boa Vista was not in this
> > episode afaik.
>
> Emily is joining White Collar. :)

That's good to know.
I hope she gets a better acting role.

--
David Barnett

[Mason Barge]

Yeah, I'd think so. Or two jeeps and a 1 1/4, at least. A deuce and a
half might be tricky to get up the mountain road, would be my only
reservation - I haven't watched closely enough to remember what the road
is like.

[Mason Barge]

I don't think it even would need to be surplus. It is a NATO operation,
after all. The US has given first-run equipment to organizations a lot
odder than a NATO listening post.

[shawn]

On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:00:48 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>

It's not that I don't believe what you say. I just didn't want this to
be true and thought maybe you got something wrong or were trying to
pull a cruel joke on us. I can't see why they would choose her for the
role. Though if they are really only going to use her in two episodes
they can write her out for the next season.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <03br885gcee8prrf2...@4ax.com>,

Ah. Okay. :) I think I heard it from her directly on Twitter.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <097r88peidlif87kh...@4ax.com>,

But why would they need to leave their stupid compound except to go to
the village to steal bananas anyway?

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2af708a1c...@news.bigpond.com>,

David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> In article <anim8rfsk-D2ADC1.21415426102012
> @news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.2af59ddd9...@news.bigpond.com>,
> > David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <Sk6dh34$b85$2...@dont-email.me>,
> > > web...@polaris.net says...
> > > >
> > > > What did you watch?
> > >
> > > Yesterday I also watched:
> > >
> > > CSI: MIAMI: No Good Deed
> > > I've just read that this show has been canceled.
> > > So I have only 4 more episodes to go and I have then sen
> > > the whole show.
> > > Just when Emily Procter now speaks with a more mature
> > > voice. Eva La Rue as Natalia Boa Vista was not in this
> > > episode afaik.
> >
> > Emily is joining White Collar. :)
>
> That's good to know.
> I hope she gets a better acting role.

She was wonderful on THE WEST WING.

[chicagofan]

Yes, she was... in spite of Ainsley's political views. ;)
bj

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 10/27/2012 7:08 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <pjho88hdtlq5460p2...@4ax.com>,
> Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:34:35 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> LAST RESORT -
>>>> Yes, but this regains the title of 'worst show on television'
>>>
>>> Easily.
>>
>> I'm back with "Revolution". For me, it's a clear choice. (Not that Last
>> Resort is an unworthy competitor.)
>
> I maintain that each episode of each series is stupider than whatever
> aired last.
>

In other words, they're both winning the race to the bottom.

--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate
wouldn't tolerate.

[Obveeus]

How else would they get to the bar?

Also, a vehicle may have been left behind by the French mining guy. He
would need to be able to explore the entire island across any level of
primitive road (or off road) looking for the Unobtanium deposits.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 10/28/2012 1:27 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
> In article <705859ea-5952-4652...@googlegroups.com>,
> David Johnston <davidjohnst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, October 28, 2012 12:19:53 PM UTC-7, BTR1701 wrote:
>
>>> Why would the military do that? That makes no sense.
>>
>> The military sells surplus equipment all the time.
>
> Not that way, they don't.
>
> Besides, as Anim8R pointed out, even if they did, the trucks belong to
> the locals. Did they just take them?

He took an entire *island* if the trucks were considered part of the
installation then he would feel they were part of the bargain.

If so, why are they throwing guys
> in the brig for taking bananas?
>

The bananas were for sale by the locals the trucks were probably sitting
in a garage somewhere with other installation equipment.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <508dd191$0$71236$742e...@news.sonic.net>,

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

> On 10/27/2012 7:08 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <pjho88hdtlq5460p2...@4ax.com>,
> > Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:34:35 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> LAST RESORT -
> >>>> Yes, but this regains the title of 'worst show on television'
> >>>
> >>> Easily.
> >>
> >> I'm back with "Revolution". For me, it's a clear choice. (Not that Last
> >> Resort is an unworthy competitor.)
> >
> > I maintain that each episode of each series is stupider than whatever
> > aired last.
> >
> In other words, they're both winning the race to the bottom.

Yep, although you'd think the Colorado will dive deeper.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6kikf$3h4$1...@dont-email.me>, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net>
wrote:

Don't hate her because she's right!

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6kjre$a3k$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:56:00 -0700, BTR1701 <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <k6idl0$qih$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "BTR1701" <atr...@mac.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > I'm about two episodes behind on LAST RESORT, so this may have been
> >> >> > asked elsewhere, but where did the crew get the military trucks and
> >> >> > jeeps that they're using to tool around the island?
> >> >>
> >> >> Likely they are NATO outpost vehicles.
> >> >
> >> >Why would a NATO outpost with three non-military people manning it need
> >> >several jeeps and a deuce-and-a-half?
> >>
> >> Yeah, I'd think so. Or two jeeps and a 1 1/4, at least. A deuce and a
> >> half might be tricky to get up the mountain road, would be my only
> >> reservation - I haven't watched closely enough to remember what the road
> >> is like.
> >
> > But why would they need to leave their stupid compound except to go to
> > the village to steal bananas anyway?
>
> How else would they get to the bar?

Walk? The island is only 30 or 40 miles across with thousands of
inhabitants.

>
> Also, a vehicle may have been left behind by the French mining guy. He
> would need to be able to explore the entire island across any level of
> primitive road (or off road) looking for the Unobtanium deposits.

Yeah, the mining guy could use something, although an off road
motorcycle would probably serve him better. But who needed the troop
transports?

[chicagofan]

LOL!!! I knew that would get you! I didn't hate her. It was nice to hear the opposing views on that show, when they
were reasonable like she was. :)
bj

[Obveeus]

I still think the most likely owner is still the NATO outpost and I see no
reason why it would be unexpected for a NATO outpost to have more equipment
than it currently needs. It makes a whole lot more sense for them to have a
couple of vehicles than it does for them to have a battery operated
underwater sub attack warning system.

[BTR1701]

In article <k6knmt$nml$1...@dont-email.me>,

The assertion was that the trucks were given/sold to the locals by NATO.
That makes them the property of the locals every bit as much as a random
banana.

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <03br885gcee8prrf2...@4ax.com>,

shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 08:00:48 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
> wrote:
> >In article <mjmp88pds07gqifoa...@4ax.com>,
> > shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:35:38 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
> >> wrote:
> >> >In article
> >> ><ijball-NO_SPAM-5B3...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >> > "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> In article <1opn88pvc71uut0fe...@4ax.com>,
> >> >> shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 04:31:34 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >In article <03a37285-504c-46c9...@googlegroups.com>,
> >> >> > > "Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
> >> >> > >> On Friday, October 26, 2012 9:41:56 PM UTC-7, anim8rfsk wrote:
> >> >> > >> >
> >> >> > >> > Emily is joining White Collar. :)
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >> Wow, I hope that's not true - she's totally unneeded there.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >She's going to be the new FBI boss.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Ugh...
> >> >>

> >> >> Double ugh - James [Rebhorn] was actually WC's secret weapon;

> >> >> as it is, they never used him enough.
> >> >
> >> >Agreed, if that's who she's replacing, he'll be missed.
> >>
> >> I didn't believe you until I looked up the info online.
> >
> >Hey! Harumph! :(
>
> It's not that I don't believe what you say. I just didn't want this to
> be true and thought maybe you got something wrong or were trying to
> pull a cruel joke on us. I can't see why they would choose her for the
> role. Though if they are really only going to use her in two episodes
> they can write her out for the next season.

If she's only in two episodes, she's not replacing Rebhorn - more
likely, she'll be playing Rebhorn's boss (i.e. the "boss' boss"). That I
can live with...

--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6l56u$jrn$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

And apparently a way to stop nuclear missiles headed for Pakistan with
enough lead time.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6kr98$atk$1...@dont-email.me>, chicagofan <m...@privacy.net>

It was also interesting to see the Democrats turn into frothy maniacs at
the full moon, the way the original attorney did with her, and Josh
later did with Chandler Bing.

I loved it when Rob Lowe fired those two assholes that were harassing
Ainsley, although I bet he couldn't actually get away with that without
HR and a hearing and he'd probably lose the lawsuit over it.

[Obveeus]

"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <k6l56u$jrn$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>> > In article <k6kjre$a3k$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >> Also, a vehicle may have been left behind by the French mining guy.
>> >> He
>> >> would need to be able to explore the entire island across any level of
>> >> primitive road (or off road) looking for the Unobtanium deposits.
>> >
>> > Yeah, the mining guy could use something, although an off road
>> > motorcycle would probably serve him better. But who needed the troop
>> > transports?
>>
>> I still think the most likely owner is still the NATO outpost and I see
>> no
>> reason why it would be unexpected for a NATO outpost to have more
>> equipment
>> than it currently needs. It makes a whole lot more sense for them to
>> have a
>> couple of vehicles than it does for them to have a battery operated
>> underwater sub attack warning system.
>
> And apparently a way to stop nuclear missiles headed for Pakistan with
> enough lead time.

If they just had time to turn off their radar screen, the little red dot
never would have reached Pakistan!

[Jim G.]

Ubiquitous sent the following on Fri, 26 Oct 2012 04:16:53 -0400:
>
> What did you watch?

LAST RESORT (ABC, 7 PM) / Skeleton Crew
[Sam and Marcus enter negotiations with the U.S. government in hope of
ending the standoff on Sainte Marina; Grace takes the lead on a perilous
repair operation.]

Ten minutes of focusing on the wrong things and of COB acting badly and
this became a DNF and another series that I *used* to watch. Again, why
is Chaplin wasting his time on dealing/negotiating with the corrupt
people instead of communicating with the good people out there who could
help him to bring the corrupt people to justice? Furthermore, there is
clearly far too little to the D.C. side of this story for me, and the
island stuff is already beyond tedious. Dichen Barchick? Tedious. Petty
Island Thugster? Tedious. So goodbye, LAST RESORT.

Grade: DNF

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"I'm really ready for this day to be over." -- Duke Crocker, HAVEN

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6ma2k$u7$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>

LOL, maybe that's what the writers thought. Of course then the obvious
solution is to dynamite the installation *now*

[Obveeus]

If you blow up the radar screen, wouldn't that destroy the entire world?

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k6mo5d$6jo$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>

wrote:

> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <k6ma2k$u7$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >> > And apparently a way to stop nuclear missiles headed for Pakistan with
> >> > enough lead time.
> >>
> >> If they just had time to turn off their radar screen, the little red dot
> >> never would have reached Pakistan!
> >
> > LOL, maybe that's what the writers thought. Of course then the obvious
> > solution is to dynamite the installation *now*
>
> If you blow up the radar screen, wouldn't that destroy the entire world?

No, their range wasn't that big.

[Bunion]

On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:47:32 -0400, Mason Barge illuminated us with the
following words of wisdom:

> The Catholic bashing I don't mind per se, but it's cumulative.

You minded it a lot during that long thread about Obamacare and
contraception several months ago. You bashed the
pro-contraception-availability side and sided with the Catholic extremists,
remember?

[Bunion]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:58:43 -0700, Ian J. Ball illuminated us with the
following words of wisdom:

> In article <Sk6dh34$b85$2...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> Last Resort - While not as negative on this as Obv was, I also can't
> disagree at this show is basically not working as a continuing series
> and is bearing the unmistakable hallmarks as a show that's falling apart
> as a result. "Reforming" Robert Patrick as the C.O.B. was probably the
> most egregious thing in this episode, along with Daisy Betts not using
> lethal force against those scumbags on the Illinois.
> But as silly, stupid, and unrealistic as this episode was, at least
> it was entertaining (and sported the return of Omid Abtahi as the other
> NATO outpost operator from the pilot, whom I thought they had just
> completely forgotten about!) - next episode (in 2 weeks) looks like
> we're going to be subjected to a 1-hour hallucination from Scott
> Speedman. Pass. Just, pass.

Er, "in 2 weeks"? The next Thursday is after the start of November, so,
during a sweeps month. So there should be a new episode and not a rerun
then.

[BTR1701]

In article <k6q9on$ds6$1...@news.mixmin.net>,

Why are they extremists again?

[Mason Barge]

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:34:26 -0400, Bunion <bunio...@gmail.invalid>
wrote:

I seem to remember better than you, Seamus. It had nothing to do with
Catholic-bashing, it was actual infringement on their beliefs. A lot
worse.

Catholic-bashing is, if not "well-deserved", at least understandable to
some degree. It's just a cheap shot, given the current tenor of Hollywood
and the entertainment industry.

[chicagofan]

anim8rFSK wrote:
> chicagofan<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> anim8rFSK wrote:
>>> chicagofan<m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> anim8rFSK wrote:

>>>>> David Barnett<dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>> @news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...

>>>>>>> David Barnett<dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yesterday I also watched:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> CSI: MIAMI: No Good Deed
>>>>>>>> I've just read that this show has been canceled.

>>>>>>>> Just when Emily Procter now speaks with a more mature
>>>>>>>> voice.

>>>>>>> Emily is joining White Collar. :)
>>>>>> That's good to know.
>>>>>> I hope she gets a better acting role.
>>>>> She was wonderful on THE WEST WING.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, she was... in spite of Ainsley's political views. ;)
>>>> bj
>>> Don't hate her because she's right!
>>>
>> LOL!!! I knew that would get you! I didn't hate her. It was nice to hear
>> the opposing views on that show, when they
>> were reasonable like she was. :)
>> bj
> It was also interesting to see the Democrats turn into frothy maniacs at
> the full moon, the way the original attorney did with her, and Josh
> later did with Chandler Bing.

LOL! Josh was prone to over react a lot. :)

> I loved it when Rob Lowe fired those two assholes that were harassing
> Ainsley, although I bet he couldn't actually get away with that without
> HR and a hearing and he'd probably lose the lawsuit over it.

I don't know... some things wouldn't be worth protesting. Guess it would depend on the ethics, and power of the
individuals involved. I thought they deserved it. :)
bj

[Bunion]

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:02:25 -0700, BTR1701 illuminated us with the

following words of wisdom:

> In article <k6q9on$ds6$1...@news.mixmin.net>,
> Bunion <bunio...@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:47:32 -0400, Mason Barge illuminated us with the
>> following words of wisdom:
>>
>>> The Catholic bashing I don't mind per se, but it's cumulative.
>>
>> You minded it a lot during that long thread about Obamacare and
>> contraception several months ago. You bashed the
>> pro-contraception-availability side and sided with the Catholic
>> extremists, remember?
>
> Why are they extremists again?

Because they wanted to impose their religious mores on other people by
force, denying a chunk of the US population contraceptives because they
didn't want their tax dollars going to pay for something they regarded as
immoral? Rather than being content to not use contraceptives themselves and
live and let live?

[Bunion]

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:09:32 -0400, Mason Barge illuminated us with the

following words of wisdom:

> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:34:26 -0400, Bunion <bunio...@gmail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:47:32 -0400, Mason Barge illuminated us with the
>>following words of wisdom:
>>
>>> The Catholic bashing I don't mind per se, but it's cumulative.
>>
>>You minded it a lot during that long thread about Obamacare and
>>contraception several months ago. You bashed the
>>pro-contraception-availability side and sided with the Catholic extremists,
>>remember?
>
> I seem to remember better than you, Seamus.

Er, I'm Bunion. You seem to have me confused with somebody else.

> It had nothing to do with Catholic-bashing, it was actual infringement
> on their beliefs. A lot worse.

Tax dollars funding other people's contracepties was an "infringement on
their beliefs"? That IS an extremist position. Us not praying to Allah is
regarded as an infringement of the jihadists' beliefs, but we don't regard
their not being Christians as infringements of ours -- for the most part.

Not to mention, the whole idea of giving any group a veto on any tax-funded
thing they don't like is a non-starter. Pick a tax-funded thing, *any*
tax-funded thing, and there'll be people that would rather not be chipping
in to support it. If that was enough to get a tax-funded thing stopped, it
would quickly lead to the whole government grinding to a halt. Libertarians
don't agree with taxing most of the stuff that's taxed, for Chrissake. They
alone, given such a veto, would shut off every single social program and
infrastructure program that's publicly funded and leave little but policing
and national defense, if even those. The Amish would yank tax funding for
roads. The Catholics would pull not only subsidized contraception, but any
subsidized fertility-related healthcare. NAMBLA would defund
law-enforcement efforts targeting kiddy diddlers!

Fortunately, though, the government is sane enough *not* to let *any*
single group's objections, even moral objections, to a tax-supported
endeavor pull the plug on it.

> Catholic-bashing is, if not "well-deserved", at least understandable to
> some degree. It's just a cheap shot, given the current tenor of Hollywood
> and the entertainment industry.

Are you sure it doesn't have something to do with the actual behavior of
Catholics? Besides trying to push the whole "barefoot and pregnant" role on
the women of the country (or, at least, the ones that aren't well-to-do
enough to be privately insured or pay their own way on health care),
there's the minor little matter of their own incidents of shielding kiddy
diddlers. And before that, indulgences, inquisitions, and the Crusades.
Fact is, they have much to answer for.

[David Loewe, Jr.]

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 00:47:04, Bunion <bunio...@gmail.invalid> wrote:

>On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 12:58:43, Ian J. Ball illuminated us with the
>following words of wisdom:

>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> Last Resort - While not as negative on this as Obv was, I also can't
>> disagree at this show is basically not working as a continuing series
>> and is bearing the unmistakable hallmarks as a show that's falling apart
>> as a result. "Reforming" Robert Patrick as the C.O.B. was probably the
>> most egregious thing in this episode, along with Daisy Betts not using
>> lethal force against those scumbags on the Illinois.
>> But as silly, stupid, and unrealistic as this episode was, at least
>> it was entertaining (and sported the return of Omid Abtahi as the other
>> NATO outpost operator from the pilot, whom I thought they had just
>> completely forgotten about!) - next episode (in 2 weeks) looks like
>> we're going to be subjected to a 1-hour hallucination from Scott
>> Speedman. Pass. Just, pass.
>
>Er, "in 2 weeks"? The next Thursday is after the start of November, so,
>during a sweeps month. So there should be a new episode and not a rerun
>then.

There is some sort of awards show on ABC tomorrow.
--
"He either fears his fate too much,
Or his deserts are small,
Who dares not put it to the touch,
To win or lose it all."
- James Graham, Marquis of Montrose