Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>> suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>> suzeeq <su...@imbris.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David Barnett <dbar3...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> a...@chinet.com says...
>>>>>>>>>>> jazzyJack <jazzyjackki...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> I finally had a chance to catch up with last week's post-Etta
>>>>>>>>>>>> episode.  The Observers' Borg-like nature could have been inserted
>>>>>>>>>>>> into the show's continuity in any season. But I feel that saving
>>>>>>>>>>>> the reveal for the last few episodes was nicely timed.

>>>>>>>>>>>> And having Peter desperately experiment on himself
>>>>>>>>>>>> was entirely consistent with the behaviors Walter
>>>>>>>>>>>> has often displayed. The experiment has to go wrong,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I hope it won't be in the now-cliched manner of
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter-loses-his-humanity-and-becomes-what-he-started-out-fighting.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peter becoming the "first Observer" would also be a tired
>>>>>>>>>>>> development.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Still, the emotional core of the story remains strong.

>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, that was very Walter-like. I would predict that he becomes
>>>>>>>>>>> the first Observer.

>>>>>>>>>> I never thought of that either.

>>>>>>>>> See, if Peter becomes Walter, he's got to break things. The mere act of
>>>>>>>>> not inserting future tech into his brain would have made the Observers
>>>>>>>>> vanish.

>>>>>>>>> This, of course, cannot be reconciled with how Peter was the key point
>>>>>>>>> of the story based on Walter kidnapping him from the alternate universe
>>>>>>>>> out of grief for the death of his own son.

>>>>>>>> Peter's important to the whole thing. By saving him as a boy,
>>>>>>>> it threw a monkey wrench in the Observers plans to take over
>>>>>>>> earth. That's why they've been trying to get rid of him - he's
>>>>>>>> the key to their demise.

>>>>>>> Well, yeah, but that happened to be due to the Machine that just happened
>>>>>>> to be created to work with his body and no one else's, still yet to
>>>>>>> be explained in a way that doesn't give me a headache.

>>>>>> We've gone beyond that; The Machine was for saving the two universes
>>>>>> anyway, not destroying the Observers.

>>>>> You don't see Peter's created a paradox?

>>>>> I haven't seen "Through the Looking Glass and What Walter Found There",
>>>>> so these comments apply to the previous episode. I'd ask anyone commenting
>>>>> on the later episode to start an unrelated thread.

>>>> I wasn't commenting about any particular episode really. Peter's created
>>>> a paradox where? Last season or this one? Last season he disappeared
>>> >from both universes and didn't exist, so he couldn't have met himself
>>>> anywhere when he came back from between them or wherever he was. This
>>>> year, hard to say yet.

>>> What do you think learning to use and then to recreate future tech is?
>>> That makes Peter the creator of the technology that gives The Observers
>>> their magical powers, tech he couldn't have created if he hadn't taken
>>> it from a corpse.

>> That's a paradox?

> The technology has no point of origin.