Brett Ratner Quits Oscars after Homophobic Slur

[Mr. Hole the Magnificent]

From TMZ

Brett Ratner claims he's officially "resigned" as producer of the 2012
Academy Awards ... after dropping the homophobic F-bomb at a media
event Sunday night.

Ratner -- best known for directing the "Rush Hour" movies -- was at a
fan Q&A session for "Tower Heist" Sunday when he told the crowd,
"Rehearsal is for f*gs."

Now, he's penned an open letter ... apologizing for the "hurtful and
stupid things I've said" ... and adding, "Having love in your heart
doesn’t count for much if what comes out of your mouth is ugly and
bigoted."

Ratner continued, "Being asked to help put on the Oscar show was the
proudest moment of my career. But as painful as this may be for me, it
would be worse if my association with the show were to be a
distraction from the Academy and the high ideals it represents."

Ratner says he's been in contact with GLAAD -- the Gay and Lesbian
Alliance Against Defamation -- and he promises he will work to
"increase awareness of the important and troubling issues this episode
has raised."

"I deeply regret my actions and I am determined to learn from this
experience."

Tom Sherak -- the President of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and
Sciences -- issued a statement saying, "[Brett] did the right thing
for the Academy and for himself."

He added, "Words have meaning, and they have consequences. Brett is a
good person, but his comments were unacceptable. We all hope this will
be an opportunity to raise awareness about the harm that is caused by
reckless and insensitive remarks, regardless of the intent."

[David]

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:10:49 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
<classic...@gmail.com> wrote:

>From TMZ
>
>Brett Ratner claims he's officially "resigned" as producer of the 2012
>Academy Awards ... after dropping the homophobic F-bomb at a media
>event Sunday night.

You got your pound of flesh, haters of fun movies.

"X-Men: The Last Stand" was the best of the original trilogy!!!1!!!1!!

[Mr. Hole the Magnificent]

On Nov 8, 10:37 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:10:49 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
>

> <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >From TMZ
>
> >Brett Ratner claims he's officially "resigned" as producer of the 2012
> >Academy Awards ... after dropping the homophobic F-bomb at a media
> >event Sunday night.
>
> You got your pound of flesh, haters of fun movies.
>
> "X-Men: The Last Stand" was the best of the original trilogy!!!1!!!1!!

No. No, it wasn't.

He is a hack.

[Captain Infinity]

>Ratner says he's been in contact with the fags at GLAAD -- the Gay and Lesbian

>Alliance Against Defamation -- and he promises he will work to
>"increase awareness of the important and troubling issues this episode

>has raised, and try to keep those fudgepackers off my ass."

What a pussy.


**
Captain Infinity

[David]

It's going to be really awkward for the Academy when Ratner gets his
lifetime achievement award someday.

[Ian J. Ball]

On Nov 8, 7:51 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

<classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 10:37 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:10:49 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
> > <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >From TMZ
>
> > >Brett Ratner claims he's officially "resigned" as producer of the 2012
> > >Academy Awards ... after dropping the homophobic F-bomb at a media
> > >event Sunday night.
>
> > You got your pound of flesh, haters of fun movies.
>
> > "X-Men: The Last Stand" was the best of the original trilogy!!!1!!!1!!
>
> No. No, it wasn't.
>
> He is a hack.

But he's better than Michael Bay!!1!!

[nick]

On Nov 8, 10:51 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

<classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 10:37 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:10:49 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
>
> > <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >From TMZ
>
> > >Brett Ratner claims he's officially "resigned" as producer of the 2012
> > >Academy Awards ... after dropping the homophobic F-bomb at a media
> > >event Sunday night.
>
> > You got your pound of flesh, haters of fun movies.
>
> > "X-Men: The Last Stand" was the best of the original trilogy!!!1!!!1!!
>
> No. No, it wasn't.
>
> He is a hack.

I want my money back for Tower Heist.

[David]

On Nov 8, 11:21 pm, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 10:51 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

> > He is a hack.
>
> I want my money back for Tower Heist.

You'll need to put together a team.

[Ian J. Ball]

On Nov 8, 8:25 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 11:21 pm, nick <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote:

x> > On Nov 8, 10:51 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

>>
> > He is a hack.
>
> > I want my money back for Tower Heist.
>
> You'll need to put together a team.

Don't forget to include a "funny old black dude" - I bet Steve
Harvey's available!!

[David]

Don't make the same mistake Brett Ratner did and omit Chris Tucker.

[Mr. Hole the Magnificent]

Haw haw Haw!

[moviePig]

On Nov 8, 10:10 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

Jesus F**king Christ. Although Ratner's not god's cinematic gift to
me, do we need to demand a pound of phony fresh flesh every time the
tide of our long-standing jargon leaks through? He said he's sorry
and he likes gays... which imo should about cover it...

--

- - - - - - - -
YOUR taste at work...
http://www.moviepig.com

[nick]

When these things happen, there is always more to the story. I'd be
real surprised if Ratner's use of the word "fag" was the only reason
he lost his Oscar producing gig. It might be a convenient "out" (no
pun intended). Ratner producing the Oscars was a terrible idea to
begin with.

[The Loan Arranger]

Why do we have to kowtow to every politically correct pressure group?
It's fucking sickening.
So he said "Fag", so what?
If those fudgepacking faggots don't like it, too fucking bad!

[Dano]

"moviePig" wrote in message
news:38c34c8f-8c67-43de...@4g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...

======================================

Insert the word nigger into the phrase and see how that "likes blacks"
statement would make it all better.

Nope. What is the event if NOT a giant public relations effort for the
movie biz? This your idea of good PR is it?

The further fact here is clearly illustrated in this very thread and all
over this newsgroup elsewhere. Homophobia is not only alive and well...it's
utterly rampant. As is racism. So don't blow smoke up everyone's ass
saying this is no big deal.

[William]

Thank you.

[Dano]

"The Loan Arranger" wrote in message
news:0Exuq.23483$Pm3....@newsfe12.iad...

=============================================

Thank you for your unbridled honesty you bigoted freak.

Now please die.

[Obveeus]

"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "moviePig" wrote in message

>> Jesus F**king Christ. Although Ratner's not god's cinematic gift to
>> me, do we need to demand a pound of phony fresh flesh every time the
>> tide of our long-standing jargon leaks through? He said he's sorry
>> and he likes gays... which imo should about cover it...
>>
> ======================================
>
> Insert the word nigger into the phrase and see how that "likes blacks"
> statement would make it all better.

We apparently live in a world where only gay men can use the word 'fag' and
only black people can use the word 'nigger'...and where most of the rest of
the population thinks that double standard is acceptable.

> The further fact here is clearly illustrated in this very thread and all
> over this newsgroup elsewhere. Homophobia is not only alive and well...

Ceretainly, homophobia is alive and well...just look at the PTC folks and
the new attack on Glee...and all those in the newsgroups that agree with
them. Still, I'm having trouble seeing where Ratner's comment is
homophobic. Maybe someone could break down the statement word by word and
explain what exactly he was saying? Is he saying that it is gay to
practice/study? It seems like he was just trying to say that rehersing is
lame...and how many years do we have before the Americans with Disabilities
people step in and pronounce the word 'lame' to be just as hateful and
demand people resign from their entertainment jobs if they use it?

> it's utterly rampant. As is racism. So don't blow smoke up everyone's
> ass saying this is no big deal.

That sounds like a derogotory personal attack against cigarette users. Your
hate speech is hereby condemned.

[moviePig]

On Nov 9, 11:16 am, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:

No, it's not no big deal ...don't let the smoke get in your eyes.
But, afaics, Ratner's public acknowledgment of his error carries
enough weight to genuinely demonstrate the unacceptability of his
phrase and to move away from a repeat of it. And the rest of his
forced display of contrition seems to me counterproductive corporeal
punishment. Imagine (as necessary) that you are gay, and consider
what emotional benefit you'd feel from seeing Ratner given twenty
lashes... or crucified for the sins of this n.g.'s homophobic
anonyshits...

[Extra! Extra!]

On Nov 8, 9:10 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

Phobia means an irrational fear of something harmless. People who say
'fag' don't have an irrational fear of faggots. They see faggots as
funny queers who fuck each other in the ass like retards. If someone
who says 'fag' is a 'homophobe', then someone who tells a Polack joke
is a Polakcophobe. Ridiculous.

But Brett should be happy. Oscars is run by a bunch of greedy Jewish
gays.

[JRStern]

On Wed, 9 Nov 2011 11:12:45 -0500, "The Loan Arranger" <lo...@loan.xxx>
wrote:

>Why do we have to kowtow to every politically correct pressure group?

as Steve Edwards said on the Fox morning news today: cuz gays are the
only remaining audience for the Oscars anyway.

J.

[RichA]

Slurring queers in that setting is like slurring Chinese in Beijing.

[Dano]

"moviePig" wrote in message
news:e5dfb62f-b218-4469...@s7g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...

On Nov 9, 11:16 am, "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "moviePig" wrote in message
>
> news:38c34c8f-8c67-43de...@4g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
>
> On Nov 8, 10:10 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"
>
>
>
> <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > From TMZ
>
> > Brett Ratner claims he's officially "resigned" as producer of the 2012
> > Academy Awards ... after dropping the homophobic F-bomb at a media
> > event Sunday night.
>
> > Ratner -- best known for directing the "Rush Hour" movies -- was at a
> > fan Q&A session for "Tower Heist" Sunday when he told the crowd,
> > "Rehearsal is for f*gs."
>
> > Now, he's penned an open letter ... apologizing for the "hurtful and
> > stupid things I've said" ... and adding, "Having love in your heart

> > doesn�t count for much if what comes out of your mouth is ugly and

======================================

CRUCIFIED? Seriously? NOW who's being a drama queen?

Not exactly a career ending punishment. He'll be just fine. So will the
Oscar show. This isn't exactly The Godfather he was gong to direct here.
And he's no Coppola either.

[Dano]

"JRStern" wrote in message
news:7qhlb79fgiq4n6075...@4ax.com...

======================================

Ah...I see...taking this opportunity to come out of the closet are you?
Congratulations on your brave pronouncement.

Otherwise...why would you even care enough to invest so heavily in this
thread?

[Stone me]

"JRStern" <JRS...@foobar.invalid> wrote in message
news:7qhlb79fgiq4n6075...@4ax.com...

Some people need a group to persecute.
Language in itself can do no harm, but if used as a rallying cry for
such things as homophobia then it's the mass attacks with words that
seems to set off individual behaviour.
Let that situation develop, then a new culture of hatred and real attacks
can begin.
It's a many-headed hydra, and reducing the places where they can
express their phobias will find new victims and new excuses.

There Is a danger of overdoing the protests, and another of declaring
a no-forgiveness attitude.

Trying to find a way out by using logic or appealing to the better side
of humans seems futile, after reading some of the posts.

Stone me.

[Dano]

"Extra! Extra!" wrote in message
news:0e9d256a-f31e-49e4...@d17g2000yql.googlegroups.com...

But Brett should be happy. Oscars is run by a bunch of greedy Jewish
gays.

=======================================

Wow! Proud to be a bigot are you?

Equal opportunity hater eh?

[Mr. Hole the Magnificent]

On Nov 9, 10:15 am, moviePig <pwall...@moviepig.com> wrote:

On Monday he also gave an interview on Howard Stern about all the sex
he likes to have with young young actresses and how he makes them get
tested for all the diseases because doesn't like to wear condoms. That
probably had something to do with it too.

[The Loan Arranger]

"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j9ea19$ek8$1...@dont-email.me...

Fuck you and your faggoty friends.
Free speech is under attack from all sides by the agents of politcial
correctness.
I'd tell you to go die but, like most of your fag buddies, you probably already
have AIDS and a prolapsed rectum and so will be dead soon anyway.
HAGD

[The Loan Arranger]

"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j9ea19$ek8$1...@dont-email.me...

[moviePig]

On Nov 9, 3:34 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

Aha. Three points to Nick for good speculating...

[Dano]

"The Loan Arranger" wrote in message

news:uVBuq.28865$rF5....@newsfe19.iad...

Fuck you and your faggoty friends.
Free speech is under attack from all sides by the agents of politcial
correctness.

=======================================

I could not possibly care less about political correctness you miserable,
bigoted, homophobic turd.

What YOU fail to comprehend is that freedom of speech extends both ways.
And any private company...in this case the Academy...has every right to
decide for themselves who they wish to represent them.

You have every right to be free to demonstrate your grotesque stupidity and
vile and contemptuous points of view. Which you do quite often. Anyone
impressed by that can rot in hell with you.

[trotsky]

On 11/9/11 12:30 PM, RichA wrote:
> Slurring queers in that setting is like slurring Chinese in Beijing.

Rich, why are your "deep thoughts" indistinguishable from bowel movements?

[Howard Brazee]

On 11/9/11 9:12 AM, The Loan Arranger wrote:
> Why do we have to kowtow to every politically correct pressure group?

Everybody seems to want this - with different definitions of
"politically correct". When we perceive *our* group being
discriminated against we get angry.

Some people only get angry when it's their own group, but don't
understand why other groups want to be treated as well.

[Mack A. Damia]

On Wed, 09 Nov 2011 16:39:20 -0700, Howard Brazee <how...@brazee.net>
wrote:

*The Nature of Prejudice* - David Allport.

"The bias (nacissism) of small differences".

[anim8rfsk]

"Mr. Hole the Magnificent" <classic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 10:37 pm, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 19:10:49 -0800 (PST), "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

>>
>> <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> From TMZ
>>
>>> Brett Ratner claims he's officially "resigned" as producer of the 2012
>>> Academy Awards ... after dropping the homophobic F-bomb at a media
>>> event Sunday night.
>>

>> You got your pound of flesh, haters of fun movies.
>>
>> "X-Men: The Last Stand" was the best of the original trilogy!!!1!!!1!!
>
> No. No, it wasn't.

Yeah, it actually was, which isn't to say it was any dood.
>
> He is a hack.

Singer's a bigger hack.


--
sent from a borrowed ipad

[The Loan Arranger]

"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:j9ea19$ek8$1...@dont-email.me...

Fuck you and your faggoty friends.
Free speech is under attack from all sides by the agents of politcial
correctness.

[nick]

On Nov 9, 4:01 pm, "The Loan Arranger" <l...@loan.xxx> wrote:
> "Dano" <janeandd...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

You'[re a fan of Hollywood movies and you think like this? Wow.

[Mack A. Damia]

>"The bias (narcissism) of small differences". (corrected typo)

For instance, to Catholics, all Lutherans appear the same, but within
the Lutheran faith there are many variations (actually, "small
differences").

There are probably better examples, but that's the one I recall.

[anim8rfsk]

moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
> On Nov 8, 10:10 pm, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

> <classic.mr.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From TMZ
>>
>> Brett Ratner claims he's officially "resigned" as producer of the 2012
>> Academy Awards ... after dropping the homophobic F-bomb at a media
>> event Sunday night.
>>

Am I the only one more annoyed at his disdain for rehearsal?

[Obveeus]

"anim8rfsk" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> moviePig <pwal...@moviepig.com> wrote:
>> Jesus F**king Christ. Although Ratner's not god's cinematic gift to
>> me, do we need to demand a pound of phony fresh flesh every time the
>> tide of our long-standing jargon leaks through? He said he's sorry
>> and he likes gays... which imo should about cover it...
>
> Am I the only one more annoyed at his disdain for rehearsal?

Should we even assume that he was being serious about not rehearsing rather
than making a joke? Still, how much rehearsing is needed for people to read
a lame bit of banter/quip off of cue cards followed by reading a list of
names, followed by clapping and stepping to the side while the person comes
up on stage to thank God, the Academy, and their mother for the shiny
trophy?

[Charles H. Sampson]

Extra! Extra! <bosleyc...@live.com> wrote:

> Phobia means an irrational fear of something harmless.

According this statement the respect that the rest of the post
doesn't deserve, I too had trouble this "homophobia" from day one. I
actually didn't understand what was being talked about for a while.
Were people using this term saying that people who were anti-gay were
afraid of them? (It's a psychological argument that can be discussed.)

A lot of poorly formed words were created in the last century after
the teaching of Latin died out in the schools that educated the
intelligent--those most likely to coin new words.

Charlie
--
[A certain TV newsreader] had a role to play: presenter of the Other
Side of the Argument, to whom fair-minded people were obligated to
pay heed, no matter what nonsense he spouted.
Charlie Pierce, Idiot America

[David Johnston]

On 11/10/2011 7:58 AM, Charles H. Sampson wrote:
> Extra! Extra!<bosleyc...@live.com> wrote:
>
>> Phobia means an irrational fear of something harmless.
>
> According this statement the respect that the rest of the post
> doesn't deserve, I too had trouble this "homophobia" from day one. I
> actually didn't understand what was being talked about for a while.
> Were people using this term saying that people who were anti-gay were
> afraid of them?

Quite a lot of them are. The people who are particularly virulent on
the subject definitely are.

[moviePig]

On Nov 10, 9:58 am, csamp...@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:

> Extra! Extra! <bosleycrowt...@live.com> wrote:
> > Phobia means an irrational fear of something harmless.
>
>        According this statement the respect that the rest of the post
> doesn't deserve, I too had trouble this "homophobia" from day one.  I
> actually didn't understand what was being talked about for a while.
> Were people using this term saying that people who were anti-gay were
> afraid of them?  (It's a psychological argument that can be discussed.)
>
>      A lot of poorly formed words were created in the last century after
> the teaching of Latin died out in the schools that educated the
> intelligent--those most likely to coin new words.

I don't know how it jibes with proper Latin, but I see 'phobia' in
this instance meaning "excessive emotional aversion". And it seems to
apply here in that Ratner, though immersed in a culture that has long
deprecated the (relatively useless) word 'fag', has nevertheless
anchored it to the foundation of his own everyday everywhere
lingo ...i.e., almost as though it were a talisman he needs to quell a
phobia.

[addre...@invalid.invalid]

"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

> Still, how much rehearsing is needed for people to read
> a lame bit of banter/quip off of cue cards

Given the quality of recent performances, apparently more than they're
putting in.

[addre...@invalid.invalid]

Yes! Thank you.

[The Loan Arranger]

"nick" <nickmacp...@AOL.com> wrote in message
news:4d2309ea-42c5-4387...@c18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...

> You'[re a fan of Hollywood movies and you think like this? Wow.

What does one have to do with the other, you old fudgepacker?

[Martin Phipps]

On Nov 10, 6:58 am, csamp...@inetworld.net (Charles H. Sampson) wrote:

> Extra! Extra! <bosleycrowt...@live.com> wrote:
> > Phobia means an irrational fear of something harmless.
>
>        According this statement the respect that the rest of the post
> doesn't deserve, I too had trouble this "homophobia" from day one.  I
> actually didn't understand what was being talked about for a while.
> Were people using this term saying that people who were anti-gay were
> afraid of them?

I'm afraid of gay people. Also spiders and snakes.

Seriously, I remember Andy Rooney once said he had nothing against gay
people but he felt uncomfortable being around them. Somebody from
GLADD went to speak with him to tell him he had a problem. I imagine
he must have been thinking "Yes, yes, I know. Please go away."

Martin

[nick]

On Nov 10, 2:11 pm, "The Loan Arranger" <l...@loan.xxx> wrote:
> "nick" <nickmacpherso...@AOL.com> wrote in message

>
> news:4d2309ea-42c5-4387...@c18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...> You'[re a fan of Hollywood movies and you think like this?  Wow.
>
> What does one have to do with the other, you old fudgepacker?

Because a lot of your movie idols were sucking cock, getting fucked in
the ass, etc. when they weren't onset filming those tear jerker oldies
where they're trying to save Aunt May's farm from the evil bankers.

[Ubiquitous]

Why is "trotsky" obsessed with fecal matters?

--
"If Barack Obama isn't careful, he will become the Jimmy Carter of the
21st century."

[Dano]

"nick" wrote in message
news:14893418-f816-45e1...@l19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...

=======================================

So was his dad.

[Barb May]

Ubiquitous wrote:
> gms...@email.com wrote:
>> On 11/9/11 12:30 PM, RichA wrote:
>
>>> Slurring queers in that setting is like slurring Chinese in Beijing.
>>
>> Rich, why are your "deep thoughts" indistinguishable from bowel
>> movements?
>
> Why is "trotsky" obsessed with fecal matters?

Why are you a moron who struts around here wearing a tinfoil
"self-appointed moderator" badge?

--
Barb

[Dano]

"Barb May" wrote in message news:4ebd...@news.x-privat.org...

==================================

What else do you suppose he has to do?

Keeps him off the street anyway. <shrug>

[trotsky]

Why does Ubi have such trouble understanding that anybody with a brain
is going to look at posts of his and "Rich's" as piles of shit?

Interestingly, though, I must be some kind of litmus test: Ubi complains
about posts referencing "fecal matters" and Thanny complains about
penises--kind of says more about them than me, doesn't it.

[Thanatos]

Not even a little bit.

[Barb May]

Indeed.
--
Barb

[trotsky]

Denial is about all you have left you intellectual Lilliputian.

[trotsky]

Thanny, though, being a giant penis begs to differ.

[Thanatos]

LOL! So you're now openly defending and supporting trotsky's constant
homophobic slurs, while claiming that anyone who takes issue with him is
'obsessed'.

Of course, using your own criteria, that makes you just as obsessed,
although I'm sure that as a good little lib, you've exempted yourself from
the standards by which you judge everyone else.

Neat trick, Barbie, if you can find anyone stupid enough to fall for it.

[Barb May]

Thanatos wrote:
> "Barb May" <bar...@nonofyourbusinessx.tv> wrote:
>> trotsky wrote:
>>> On 11/11/11 11:32 AM, Barb May wrote:
>>>> Ubiquitous wrote:
>>>>> gms...@email.com wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/9/11 12:30 PM, RichA wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Slurring queers in that setting is like slurring Chinese in
>>>>>>> Beijing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rich, why are your "deep thoughts" indistinguishable from bowel
>>>>>> movements?
>>>>>
>>>>> Why is "trotsky" obsessed with fecal matters?
>>>>
>>>> Why are you a moron who struts around here wearing a tinfoil
>>>> "self-appointed moderator" badge?
>>>
>>>
>>> Why does Ubi have such trouble understanding that anybody with a
>>> brain is going to look at posts of his and "Rich's" as piles of
>>> shit?
>>>
>>> Interestingly, though, I must be some kind of litmus test: Ubi
>>> complains about posts referencing "fecal matters" and Thanny
>>> complains about penises--kind of says more about them than me,
>>> doesn't it.
>>
>> Indeed.
>
> LOL! So you're now openly defending and supporting trotsky's constant
> homophobic slurs,

false premise

> while claiming that anyone who takes issue with him
> is 'obsessed'.

false premise

>
> Of course, using your own criteria, that makes you just as obsessed,

illogical syllogism

<yawn>
--
Barb

[addre...@invalid.invalid]

Nothing of the kind.

>> while claiming that anyone who takes issue with him
>> is 'obsessed'.
>
> false premise

Nothing of the kind.

>> Of course, using your own criteria, that makes you just as obsessed,
>
> illogical syllogism

Oh, look! It's using big words it clearly doesn't understand.

> <yawn>

<burp>