On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:21:46 -0400, info...@mindspring.com wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:15:47 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
>wrote:
>>I never understood why the protagonist wanted out of the "A Boy and His >>Dog" town so badly. They wanted to house and feed him and make him be a >>breeder. Where's the downside?
>Having your Willy hooked up to what is essentialy an automatic milking
>machine? Not my idea of breeding.
Hmmmz. Is this hypothetical "milking machine", er, um . . . anatomically
correct?
In article <133098143v9h8mv7dg3qumuj4he1tg6...@4ax.com>,
info...@mindspring.com wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:15:47 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
> wrote:
> >I never understood why the protagonist wanted out of the "A Boy and His > >Dog" town so badly. They wanted to house and feed him and make him be a > >breeder. Where's the downside?
> Having your Willy hooked up to what is essentialy an automatic milking
> machine? Not my idea of breeding.
Oh, yeah, the movie changed that, didn't it. The book has him doing it the old fashioned way. :)
-- "Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:58:17 -0400, Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:21:46 -0400, info...@mindspring.com wrote:
>>On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:15:47 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
>>wrote:
>>>I never understood why the protagonist wanted out of the "A Boy and His >>>Dog" town so badly. They wanted to house and feed him and make him be a >>>breeder. Where's the downside?
>>Having your Willy hooked up to what is essentialy an automatic milking
>>machine? Not my idea of breeding.
>Hmmmz. Is this hypothetical "milking machine", er, um . . . anatomically
>correct?
Anatomically correct for a milking machine. Literally a suction device
with a bunch of tubes leading from it. Might be fun for the first
fifteen minutes or so...
anim8r...@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> l...@winsim.com wrote:
>> >On 10/29/2012 4:39 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> >> I understand that the Governor is a megalomaniacal nut-job and
>> >> doesn't want to risk a coup, but why kill the Nat. Guardsmen?
>> >> There were only 6-8 of them left (no officers) and I'd guess they'd
>> >> gladly join the community of Woodbury. And trained and battle
>> >> tested soldiers (who are used to taking orders) will come in handy
>> >> if the Governor is looking to take over the U.S.
>> >> Seems like AMC wanted to show how evil he is, as in the comic
>> >> it was obvious from the start he was insanely evil.
>> >You forgot about the ultra creepy zombie heads in
>> >the aquariums in the Governor's secret lair.
>> Those didn't appear to be zombie heads... and one looked familiar.
>They'd pretty much HAVE to be zombie heads, being, you know, decapitated >and still moving.
Were they? They seemed motionless to me, and I watched carefully to be sure.
-- "Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the iceberg a second time."
estas...@att.net wrote:
>> Ubiquitous
>> > Lynn McGuire
>> > You forgot about the ultra creepy zombie heads in
>> > the aquariums in the Governor's secret lair.
>> Those didn't appear to be zombie heads... and one
>> looked familiar.
>They weren't "alive", which I believe was the case in the
>comic but the Governor did have Michonne's pet zombie
>heads in tanks, (which should still be alive) as well as
>the chopper pilot's.
I watched carefully for signs of movement but didn't see anything.
-- "Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the iceberg a second time."
> >> > You forgot about the ultra creepy zombie heads in
> >> > the aquariums in the Governor's secret lair.
> >> Those didn't appear to be zombie heads... and one
> >> looked familiar.
> >They weren't "alive", which I believe was the case in the
> >comic but the Governor did have Michonne's pet zombie
> >heads in tanks, (which should still be alive) as well as
> >the chopper pilot's.
> I watched carefully for signs of movement but didn't see anything.
Chopper pilot's eyes were clearly moving back and forth.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 14:39:41 -0700 (PDT), Ed Stasiak
<estas...@att.net> wrote:
>Three pretty good episodes in a row, thou this one is slower
>paced and focuses exclusively on Andrea and Michonne
>encountering the Governor for the first time.
------
Nice change of pace.
>Don't care for Michonne at all, her alternating from silence to
>demanding her weapons was boring and annoying, as was
>her ability to magically sense the "Dark Side" of the Governor,
>despite him doing nothing to deserve it (considering the situation).
-----
She is naturally distrustful. She just happens to be right this time.
If I am right she will treat Rick the same way despite Andrea and his
reunion.
I am sure Andrea will be devastated by Shane's death and probably will
be a little more shocked at Rick's "new found" ruthlessness, albeit he
is still a lot more civilized than The Governor.
>What's up with the tea? The comic makes no mention of it but
>the show repeatedly made reference to the tea, in addition to
>close-ups of the tea pot, so there must be something to it?
-----
It is a in joke reference to someone behind the scenes on the show.
>I'm guessing Nerdy Scientist Guy cooked up some formula that
>he believes protects humans from the poisonous zombie bites
>(as opposed to the zombie virus that everybody already has).
-----
If you are right I just hope the brewing process doesn't include
steeping the drink with zombie heads like a larva in mezcal :-)
>I understand that the Governor is a megalomaniacal nut-job and
>doesn't want to risk a coup, but why kill the Nat. Guardsmen?
-----
Because they will oppose his power and he want
>There were only 6-8 of them left (no officers) and I'd guess they'd
>gladly join the community of Woodbury. And trained and battle
>tested soldiers (who are used to taking orders) will come in handy
>if the Governor is looking to take over the U.S.
------
I don't think he wants to take over the US right now but to draw a
parallel maybe this is how the Monroe Republic got started in
"Revolution". It does seem Monroe is just as blood thirsty. Let's see
where "The Governor" is in 14 years time. Maybe he will have the
"_______________ Republic" (we don't know his real name yet).
>Seems like AMC wanted to show how evil he is, as in the comic
>it was obvious from the start he was insanely evil.
-----
I disagree that he was "obviously" insanely evil otherwise you are
making the same assumption that you thought Michonne was doing. As an
example of "obviously" evil that would be Drexel on "Revolution". He's
batshit crazy (even with the reason of why he is pissed at Miles), but
yes having "The Governor" slaughter all those innocent solders does
show how evil he was and doesn't want ANY threat to his rule. Who else
would Merle follow and be afraid off? That should've told us how evil
he was even without the slaughter scene.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
<lord.vader....@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 10/29/2012 4:39 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> Three pretty good episodes in a row, thou this one is slower
>> paced and focuses exclusively on Andrea and Michonne
>> encountering the Governor for the first time.
>> Don't care for Michonne at all, her alternating from silence to
>> demanding her weapons was boring and annoying, as was
>> her ability to magically sense the "Dark Side" of the Governor,
>> despite him doing nothing to deserve it (considering the situation).
>> What's up with the tea? The comic makes no mention of it but
>> the show repeatedly made reference to the tea, in addition to
>> close-ups of the tea pot, so there must be something to it?
>> I'm guessing Nerdy Scientist Guy cooked up some formula that
>> he believes protects humans from the poisonous zombie bites
>> (as opposed to the zombie virus that everybody already has).
>> I understand that the Governor is a megalomaniacal nut-job and
>> doesn't want to risk a coup, but why kill the Nat. Guardsmen?
>My guess is that he didn't think they would acknowledge his authority >and cause problems for him in the long run.
-----
I think so as well. As he said it is easier to intergrate individuals
and maybe small groups of two or even three into his settlement, but
not a fairly large group of cohesive people with there own command
structure.
Of course he is interested in maintaining dictatorial powers not
saving people's lives.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
<red...@reuse.andrecycle.com> wrote:
>On 29/10/2012 7:56 PM, Ed Stasiak wrote:
>>> Lord Vader III
>>>> Ed Stasiak
>>> My guess is that he didn't think they would acknowledge
>>> his authority and cause problems for him in the long run.
>> Sure, that's an issue but no more then the threat posed by
>> his current civilian gunmen and I'd suggest military types
>> (even Nat.Guardsmen) would be more apt to follow orders
>> then a civilian.
>As noted on Talking Dead, his own henchmen were individuals who came to >the place one at a time and integrated. They became a cohesive group.
>The soldiers are already in a cohesive group. They won't integrate >nearly as easily. They might and they might not.
>Like Rick, he was not willing to take the chance.
>Now, if people want to whine about something, why not rag on them for >not showing the acres of crops necessary to keep that many people alive. >A couple of raised beds aren't cutting it.
>Not that I care. I can imagine those fields out there somewhere.
>But if people wanna nitpick...nitpick.
------
You ae right about the intergration of big groups. They will have
their own loyalties and command structure, and not just because they
were soldiers, so they had to go
On the other hand be patient about the farm thing. We have not seen
all of their town or outside of it.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
> > focuses exclusively on Andrea and Michonne
> > encountering the Governor for the first time.
> Nice change of pace.
And while Rick & Co will obviously come in contact with
the Governor at some point, until that happens, I hope
AMC sticks to this separate episode plan for each group
of characters, as opposed to cutting back-and-forth within
the episode.
> > Don't care for Michonne at all
> She is naturally distrustful.
Yeah, they made that abundantly clear with her constant silent
scowling or angry demands for her weapons.
I like that AMC toned down the Governor character and gave
him some realistic subtly, compared to the over-the-top mustache
twirling evilness he had in the comic.
I just wish they'd had done the same for Michonne.
> She just happens to be right this time.
I can understand being cautious but the Governor gave her no
reason (considering the situation) to be openly hostile towards
him.
They modified (for the better) the Governor's character but they
left Michonne as the same brooding super hero ninja gal (who
can magically sense the Governor is evil) she was in the comics,
and it don't mesh well with the other characters.
She's far too "comic bookish" compared to everyone else, who
are just regular people caught up in a unique situation.
> I am sure Andrea will be devastated by Shane's death
They might play it up that way but I don't feel there's much basis for
it, as they wasted the opportunity in S2 to really build a connection
between Andrea and Shane, beside them get'n it on that one time.
> and probably will be a little more shocked at Rick's "new found"
> ruthlessness
Thou last season Andrea went from a ding-bat yuppie to being
pretty ruthless herself and after all she's been thru the past winter,
(and will likely go thru in Woodbury…) she ought to be cool with
the Ricktatorship.
> > What's up with the tea?
> It is a in joke reference to someone behind the scenes on the show.
I ain't buying it, I think it's misdirection on the part of the
producers.
> > I'm guessing Nerdy Scientist Guy cooked up some formula
> If you are right I just hope the brewing process doesn't include
> steeping the drink with zombie heads like a larva in mezcal :-)
I'll bet it does involve zombie parts in some way.
> > I understand that the Governor is a megalomaniacal nut-job
> > and doesn't want to risk a coup, but why kill the Nat. Guards-
> > men?
> Because they will oppose his power
Like I said, I realize the character of the Governor is nut-job but
from a real world perspective, incorporating the Guardsmen
would be of great benefit to the community.
> > And trained and battle tested soldiers will come in handy
> > if the Governor is looking to take over the U.S.
> I don't think he wants to take over the US right now
Not with 70-some people of course, but he did make a speech
about taking back civilization from the zombies and his people
have been thoroughly scrounging the local area and eliminating
zombies when practical.
At least he has a plan beyond just hiding from zombies.
Again, I like the changes AMC made to the Governor character,
as I don't remember the comic character being interested in any
thing more then being a purely local evil despot.
> > Seems like AMC wanted to show how evil he is, as in the
> > comic it was obvious from the start he was insanely evil.
> I disagree that he was "obviously" insanely evil otherwise you
> are making the same assumption that you thought Michonne
> was doing.
Murdering the Guardsmen and the "Wall of Heads" shows the
viewers that he's more then just a ruthless guy, (compared to
Rick's actions) he's obviously crazy.
In the comic, this was clear from the start (in addition to other
elements that may/may not be included in the show) but the
TV show had to do something to show that to the viewers.
My gripe was Michonne immediately tuning in on this, when
he did nothing to lead her to that conclusion.
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:32:52 -0700 (PDT), Ed Stasiak
<estas...@att.net> wrote:
>> cloud dreamer
>> > Ed Stasiak
>> > Sure, that's an issue but no more then the threat posed
>> > by his current civilian gunmen
>> As noted on Talking Dead
>I don't watch that. But I still contend that the advantage
>of recruiting the Guardsmen outweighs the risk.
------
Not if you want to run a dictatorship. And soldiers while they follow
orders of a recognized chain of command, they are not atomotons. They
will not just follow the The Governer, especially if they find out
what kind of man he is. They were their own group with their own
loyaty to each other and their Lt., so they had to go, leat they be a
possible threat to The Govorner's authority.
>> not showing the acres of crops necessary to keep that many
>> people alive. A couple of raised beds aren't cutting it. I can
>> imagine those fields out there somewhere.
>Can't do any farming when there's zombie hordes wandering
>the countryside, thus the Governors people have been looting
>everything for miles around for the last 8-9 months since the
>zombiepocalypse went down.
------
I think that was cloud's point. A valid one but we should wait a few
episodes until we see more of the town.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Ed Stasiak wrote:
>I can understand being cautious but the Governor gave her no
>reason (considering the situation) to be openly hostile towards
>him.
I agree, she whould be thanking him for having his guys kidnap her at
gunpoint, tie her up and toss her in a truck blindfolded. What better way to
say "Welcome to the Village"?
> > I can understand being cautious but the Governor gave
> > her no reason (considering the situation) to be openly
> > hostile towards him.
> I agree, she whould be thanking him for having his guys
> kidnap her at gunpoint, tie her up and toss her in a truck
> blindfolded. What better way to say "Welcome to the
> Village"?
Considering the situation (they're in the midst of the
zombiepocalypse) they can't just let anybody know
the location of their compound (or even that there's
a compound in the area) and stroll around with
weapons.
And while kidnapping Andrea and Michonne may
seem a bit harsh, they also need info on what's going
on outside of Woodbury and the Governor did offer to
let them leave the next morning, even offering them
food and ammo.
Of course _we_ know the Governor is crazyevil but the
characters don't know that and after all they've been thru,
cautiously grateful would have been more realistic then
silently hostile.
Ed Stasiak wrote:
>> Captain Infinity
>> > Ed Stasiak
>> > I can understand being cautious but the Governor gave
>> > her no reason (considering the situation) to be openly
>> > hostile towards him.
>> I agree, she whould be thanking him for having his guys
>> kidnap her at gunpoint, tie her up and toss her in a truck
>> blindfolded. What better way to say "Welcome to the
>> Village"?
>Considering the situation (they're in the midst of the
>zombiepocalypse) they can't just let anybody know
>the location of their compound (or even that there's
>a compound in the area) and stroll around with
>weapons.
>And while kidnapping Andrea and Michonne may
>seem a bit harsh, they also need info on what's going
>on outside of Woodbury and the Governor did offer to
>let them leave the next morning, even offering them
>food and ammo.
>Of course _we_ know the Governor is crazyevil but the
>characters don't know that and after all they've been thru,
>cautiously grateful would have been more realistic then
>silently hostile.
I disagree. They watched those guys ecstatically kill a human being (the
chopper guy). Yes, the governor told them later that he turned, but they
knew he hadn't been bit, and there's no reason for them to accept his
"everybody turns" explanation, they've seen no evidence of that. Then
they're kidnapped, stripped of their possessions and treated like prisoners,
with lip-service that they'll be let go "tomorrow". Considering the
situation, where no one trusts anyone, how could they possibly trust him?
Groot) wrote:
>On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:26:17 -0700 (PDT), Ed Stasiak
><estas...@att.net> wrote:
>>> Lord Vader III
>>> > Ed Stasiak
>>> My guess is that he didn't think they would acknowledge
>>> his authority and cause problems for him in the long run.
>>Sure, that's an issue but no more then the threat posed by
>>his current civilian gunmen and I'd suggest military types
>>(even Nat.Guardsmen) would be more apt to follow orders
>>then a civilian.
>Just a wild guess - >If he actually was Governor of the state, he might have called out the
>National Guard near the beginning - and then as things deteriorated,
>he wound up issuing orders that revealed just how much of a maniac he
>really was. Much of the general population might not be aware of
>those orders, but it's quite possible that some surviving National
>Guard units might. So he can't take a chance on that.
-----
Nope, he is just a megalomaniac. Why wouldn't he tell anyone his real
name if he was once a bonifide governor of Georgia, presumably?
>That doesn't really explain why the helicopter survivor was willing to
>tell him where the others were - but he could have been desperate
>enough to think "Hey, by this time we've all GOT to stick together.
>By now surely even the Governor recognizes this."
----
He just thought he was lucking to be found and rescued by civilized
people instead of waking up to having his face eaten off.
>Of course, the Governor would certainly have been willing to use
>torture had it be needed - but as presented, he didn't have to.
------
Agreed.
>The offer to let them walk away, with their weapons left outside the
>gate - Michonne seems to realize that that way is certain death, even
>if she can't point a finger at exactly why she feels that way. But
>with all the people that went out to slaughter the National Guardsmen,
>it would seem impossible that what they're doing is being kept a
>secret from everyone in the town. Secrets get out.
------
I think if they wanted to leave they were free to. After all he can
kill them anytime he wants to. Who is going to say otherwise? The men
under his command who is willing to kill American troops? Yes they
were seen around town but it could be said that they left during the
night or better first thing in the morning or something.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:21:46 -0400, info...@mindspring.com wrote:
>On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 08:15:47 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
>wrote:
>>I never understood why the protagonist wanted out of the "A Boy and His >>Dog" town so badly. They wanted to house and feed him and make him be a >>breeder. Where's the downside?
>Having your Willy hooked up to what is essentialy an automatic milking
>machine? Not my idea of breeding.
------
In the "Battlestar Galactica" reboot series after the Cylons took over
Caprica the few remaining surviving females were hooked up to
fertilization machines.
They never showed it but I thought if they captured the remaining men
and kept them alive they would be hooked up to similar machines
similar to a milking machine like a cow. In other words they wouldn't
be given the chance to fall in love with a Cylon like Helo did. :-)
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
In article <50921745.52920...@news.optonline.net>,
Hunter <buffhun...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 00:19:36 GMT, ques...@infionline.net (Harold
> Groot) wrote:
> >Just a wild guess - > >If he actually was Governor of the state, he might have called out the
> >National Guard near the beginning - and then as things deteriorated,
> >he wound up issuing orders that revealed just how much of a maniac he
> >really was. Much of the general population might not be aware of
> >those orders, but it's quite possible that some surviving National
> >Guard units might. So he can't take a chance on that.
> -----
> Nope, he is just a megalomaniac. Why wouldn't he tell anyone his real
> name if he was once a bonifide governor of Georgia, presumably?
Why wouldn't anyone *recognize* him if he was the governor of Georgia?
> >The offer to let them walk away, with their weapons left outside the
> >gate - Michonne seems to realize that that way is certain death, even
> >if she can't point a finger at exactly why she feels that way. But
> >with all the people that went out to slaughter the National Guardsmen,
> >it would seem impossible that what they're doing is being kept a
> >secret from everyone in the town. Secrets get out.
> ------
> I think if they wanted to leave they were free to.
No, if they'd taken him up on his offer, they'd have made it ten steps down the road before being shot through the head. Or maybe not the head, if the Governor is holding his zombie gladiator games, like in the comic. He might use them as zombie combatants.
> I disagree. They watched those guys ecstatically kill a human
> being (the chopper guy).
Who Michonne saw was cut in half and was clearly already dead.
> Yes, the governor told them later that he turned, but they knew
> he hadn't been bit, and there's no reason for them to accept his
> "everybody turns" explanation, they've seen no evidence of that.
Which they could have have confirmed with some of the 70+
people (including women and children) strolling around town.
> Then they're kidnapped, stripped of their possessions and treated
> like prisoners,
Again, necessary precautions considering the situation.
> with lip-service that they'll be let go "tomorrow".
We as viewers know it was just "lip-service" but the characters
don't, they saw women and children openly strolling around a
safely fortified town (after Andrea had gotten medical treatment)
and had no reason to no believe the Governor wouldn't have let
them go free.
> Considering the situation, where no one trusts anyone, how could
> they possibly trust him?
My only issue was how Michonne was portrayed; angrily scowling
and aggressively demanding their weapons because she had used
her Jedi mind-reading powers to sense the inherent evilness of the
Governor, was just a bit too much.
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 08:12:27 -0700 (PDT), Ed Stasiak <estas...@att.net>
wrote:
>> Captain Infinity
>> I disagree. They watched those guys ecstatically kill a human
>> being (the chopper guy).
>Who Michonne saw was cut in half and was clearly already dead.
>> Yes, the governor told them later that he turned, but they knew
>> he hadn't been bit, and there's no reason for them to accept his
>> "everybody turns" explanation, they've seen no evidence of that.
>Which they could have have confirmed with some of the 70+
>people (including women and children) strolling around town.
I don't know that those people have any idea what's going on. Consider
that Rick's group didn't realize the truth until he told them.
>> Then they're kidnapped, stripped of their possessions and treated
>> like prisoners,
>Again, necessary precautions considering the situation.
Not really since they were kidnapped. It would be different if Andrea
and Michone had been asked to come to Woodbury but that isn't what
happened.
>> with lip-service that they'll be let go "tomorrow".
>We as viewers know it was just "lip-service" but the characters
>don't, they saw women and children openly strolling around a
>safely fortified town (after Andrea had gotten medical treatment)
>and had no reason to no believe the Governor wouldn't have let
>them go free.
I think there's reason to be unsure of them given that Merle is there
as a trusted person and she knows just what kind of person he is. Plus
they made sure to blind fold them before taking them into Woodbury
which rasises questions. Sure, there may be good reasons for the
Governor's actions but it's reasonable to be wary at this point.
>> Considering the situation, where no one trusts anyone, how could
>> they possibly trust him?
>My only issue was how Michonne was portrayed; angrily scowling
>and aggressively demanding their weapons because she had used
>her Jedi mind-reading powers to sense the inherent evilness of the
>Governor, was just a bit too much.
I think it's more that she knows just how quickly things can go south
and has learned to depend on herself. So she's feels a bit defenseless
without her weapons. It's a reasonable feeling for anyone that's
survived about a year in this new world.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT), SoHillsGuy
<jerryg...@verizon.net> wrote:
>On the blooper front, those certainly look like routine jet streak-clouds across the sky when the helicopter was losing control in the opening minutes...
----
I don't think they were contrals. there was three of them two bright
ones on top and a third dim one toward the bottom (just above the "The
Walking Dead" hash adress) as seen in the image below and they were
too thin:
Hunter <buffhun...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Oct 2012 21:38:06 -0700 (PDT), SoHillsGuy
> <jerryg...@verizon.net> wrote:
>> On the blooper front, those certainly look like routine jet
>> streak-clouds across the sky when the helicopter was losing control in
>> the opening minutes...
> ----
> I don't think they were contrals.
Of course you don't. Big surprise.
You don't know what they are, but you're certain they can't be anything
which would indicate a mistake on the part of the production.
>> > You forgot about the ultra creepy zombie heads in
>> > the aquariums in the Governor's secret lair.
>> Those didn't appear to be zombie heads... and one
>> looked familiar.
>They weren't "alive", which I believe was the case in the
>comic but the Governor did have Michonne's pet zombie
>heads in tanks, (which should still be alive) as well as
>the chopper pilot's.
-----
Yes, but they were "alive"-in the zombie fashion that is. If you watch
the scene again you will notice that their eyes and mouths moved..
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
>>> I understand that the Governor is a megalomaniacal nut-job and
>>> doesn't want to risk a coup, but why kill the Nat. Guardsmen?
>>> There were only 6-8 of them left (no officers) and I'd guess they'd
>>> gladly join the community of Woodbury. And trained and battle
>>> tested soldiers (who are used to taking orders) will come in handy
>>> if the Governor is looking to take over the U.S.
>>> Seems like AMC wanted to show how evil he is, as in the comic
>>> it was obvious from the start he was insanely evil.
>>You forgot about the ultra creepy zombie heads in
>>the aquariums in the Governor's secret lair.
>Those didn't appear to be zombie heads... and one looked familiar.
----
Yes they were and the one that looks familiar to all of us was the
Army Lt. who flew the Huey, in addition to Michoone's pets and I think
his family was there.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 07:25:19 -0700, BTR1701 <atro...@mac.com> wrote:
>In article <50921745.52920...@news.optonline.net>,
> Hunter <buffhun...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>> Nope, he is just a megalomaniac. Why wouldn't he tell anyone his real
>> name if he was once a bonifide governor of Georgia, presumably?
>Why wouldn't anyone *recognize* him if he was the governor of Georgia?
<shrug> If he had been Governor back when things were fine, then of
course a lot of people would recognize him. BUT - if we had lost that
Governor, and then perhaps a few more as society disintegrated, the
chance of the successor to the successor to the successor... being
recognized gets smaller each time. Sure, they'd still have been State
Officials back when things were fine - but many fewer would be
expected to recognize them.
I've got no idea about the line of succession in GA - presumably a Lt.
Governor, but whether it would then go to the state legislature and
then state cabinet officials (similar to the Federal Gov't. system), I
can't really say. A little research would bring it up, sure, but that
wouldn't change the general idea. The (former) head of the GA Dept. of
Agriculture, say, would not be nearly as recognizable as the (former)
Governor.
So while my Wild Guess turned out to be wrong, I hope that it doesn't
seem QUITE so improbable under this scenario.
'tis on this 10/29/2012 6:39 PM, wrote cloud dreamer thus to say:
> Now, if people want to whine about something, why not rag on them for not showing the acres of crops necessary to keep that many people alive. A couple of raised beds aren't cutting it.
> Not that I care. I can imagine those fields out there somewhere.
> But if people wanna nitpick...nitpick.
I'd like to put them on the roof tops of the buildings, most of them are short, they'll get plenty of sunshine and insulation, and they can be worked on without fear of attack from the walkers.
-- "... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
