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Keith

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Sep 2, 2004, 8:46:55 PM9/2/04
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All:
Does anyone have a digital recording of Zell Miller's Weds night speech I can download?

Keith

IAPW

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Sep 2, 2004, 8:53:00 PM9/2/04
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In article <4137bed2...@news.nethere.net>,

Go to http://video.msn.com/ and type in "Zell" in the video search. It
might work on your computer although it doesn't work on mine - msn video
doesn't work with my network card.
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Tom Cervo

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Sep 3, 2004, 12:14:52 AM9/3/04
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Translated, or in the original German?

Eliza

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Sep 3, 2004, 12:57:39 AM9/3/04
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I think it's on cspan.org too.
Eliza

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Richard

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Sep 3, 2004, 1:03:30 AM9/3/04
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At what point did he suggest putting a percentage of
New Yorkers in an oven? Or is this just another case
of Liberal over-reaction on your part?
-Rich

Keith

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Sep 3, 2004, 8:41:44 AM9/3/04
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Eliza:
Thanks! Do you recommend a video capture software? I would like to save this.

Keith

bob smith

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Sep 3, 2004, 11:26:48 AM9/3/04
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"Richard" <rande...@rogers.com> wrote in message
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I think it was right after his claim that the democratic process was
tantamount to Treason.

PCK

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Sep 3, 2004, 12:37:18 PM9/3/04
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At what point did Hitler talk about putting people in ovens in his
speeches? Or are you just exaggerating to try to make a point you
couldn't otherwise?

PCK

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Sep 3, 2004, 12:40:55 PM9/3/04
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Tom Cervo wrote:

Haha! You beat me to it.

Check out the great picture of Zell giving his speech:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/02/opinion/main640533.shtml

Richard

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Sep 3, 2004, 5:13:00 PM9/3/04
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He talked about exterminating them, not specifically about
methodology. But the original post asked about the speech
in the original German and it's pretty plain what he meant.
-Rich

Mpoconnor7

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Sep 3, 2004, 5:43:09 PM9/3/04
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>Translated, or in the original German?
>
>

Give me a break. If we were really living in the second coming of Nazi
Germany, do you really think people like Michael Moore and Soros and all those
leftist celebrities would still be free to say and express their views as they
wish, ridiculing the current administration, and not already dead or sitting in
prisons? I don't think so either.

Michael O'Connor - Modern Renaissance Man

"The likelihood of one individual being correct increases in a direct
proportion to the intensity with which others try to prove him wrong"
James Mason from the movie "Heaven Can Wait".

jayembee

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Sep 3, 2004, 6:55:58 PM9/3/04
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cmarve...@nethere.com (Keith) wrote:

> Thanks! Do you recommend a video capture software? I would
> like to save this.

It's also been posted in alt.binaries.multimedia.

-- jayembee

Andrew Ryan Chang

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Sep 3, 2004, 7:13:11 PM9/3/04
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Mpoconnor7 <mpoco...@aol.comnojunk> wrote:
>>Translated, or in the original German?
>>
>>
>
>Give me a break. If we were really living in the second coming of Nazi
>Germany, do you really think people like Michael Moore and Soros and all those
>leftist celebrities would still be free to say and express their views as they
>wish, ridiculing the current administration, and not already dead or sitting in
>prisons? I don't think so either.

Fascism doesn't happen overnight.

--
John Tesh: NBC's Counselor Troi.

Andrew Ryan Chang

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Sep 3, 2004, 7:58:40 PM9/3/04
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Also, loyalty oaths to get into a political rally, illegally
detaining (without charging) protestors for more than 24 hours (when extra
judges and lawyers who had been appointed to handle the expected boom in
business sat idle) are already happening. In that context, Zell's claim
that running against the incumbent President is disloyal is indeed pretty
damn scary.

FDR

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Sep 3, 2004, 8:33:52 PM9/3/04
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"Mpoconnor7" <mpoco...@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
news:20040903174309...@mb-m17.aol.com...

> >
> >Translated, or in the original German?
> >
> >
>
> Give me a break. If we were really living in the second coming of Nazi
> Germany, do you really think people like Michael Moore and Soros and all
those
> leftist celebrities would still be free to say and express their views as
they
> wish, ridiculing the current administration, and not already dead or
sitting in
> prisons? I don't think so either.

Vote Bush and in another 4 years it will be that way.

Rick

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Sep 4, 2004, 8:14:32 PM9/4/04
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"FDR" <_remove_spam_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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All those guys you mentioned are just like the National Socialist in
Germany. OOOOPS I forgot you can't mention that forget what I just wrote.


Jonathan Roberts

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Sep 5, 2004, 12:49:15 PM9/5/04
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Keith wrote:

> Does anyone have a digital recording of Zell Miller's Weds night speech I
> can download?

You can get it for free using iTunes from the iTunes Music Store --
choose "audiobooks" and click on the Republican National Convention
icon. Many other speeches from the event as well.

--
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Richard Wagner -Dagwood-

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Sep 6, 2004, 8:41:12 PM9/6/04
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I guess it would be saying the same as can we get a copy of the John Kerry
speech in the original Russian dialect, all kidding aside.. If you ever get a
chance watch the NOVA episode "The Final Solution" it is just horrific.. It
tells how they went about improving and making Hitlers killing machine more
productive (the ovens) Even to the point of the Electric company
calloborating. I'm a Repub you're a dem but hey this is History and fact.
Simply disgusting.
DagW00d

>>>>>All:
>>>>> Does anyone have a digital recording of Zell Miller's Weds night speech
>>>>
>>>>I
>>>>
>>>>>can download?
>>>>>
>>>>>Keith
>>>>
>>>>Translated, or in the original German?
>>>
>>>
>>> At what point did he suggest putting a percentage of
>>> New Yorkers in an oven? Or is this just another case
>>> of Liberal over-reaction on your part?
>>> -Rich
>>
>>At what point did Hitler talk about putting people in ovens in his
>>speeches? Or are you just exaggerating to try to make a point you
>>couldn't otherwise?
>
>He talked about exterminating them, not specifically about
>methodology. But the original post asked about the speech
>in the original German and it's pretty plain what he meant.
>-Rich
>
>
>
>
>
>


"Tigers Older brother DAG"

PCK

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Sep 7, 2004, 11:06:33 AM9/7/04
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Mpoconnor7 wrote:
>>Translated, or in the original German?
>>
>>
>
>
> Give me a break. If we were really living in the second coming of Nazi
> Germany, do you really think people like Michael Moore and Soros and all those
> leftist celebrities would still be free to say and express their views as they
> wish, ridiculing the current administration, and not already dead or sitting in
> prisons? I don't think so either.

Several prominent Republicans have said that criticizing the president
is tantamount to treason.

Celebrities are already being blacklisted and dropped from television
specials and other events for speaking out against the current
administration. First silence your opponents, then cut off their source
of funds; the best way to maintain power.

Try being a reporter who asks Bush a difficult (read as: "not submitted
in advance") question, and see if you are ever invited back to the White
House.

Do you really think Bush is going after trial lawyers because he has a
sincere interested in tort reform? Or might it be because lawyers are
are large contributors to the opposing party?

John R Rybock

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Sep 7, 2004, 6:30:28 PM9/7/04
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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 00:46:55 GMT, cmarve...@nethere.com (Keith)
wrote:

>All:
> Does anyone have a digital recording of Zell Miller's Weds night speech I can download?
>
>Keith

Audible.com has public affairs recordings up for a limited time,
available free of charge. They should have most of the RNC speeches
online.

Rick

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Sep 7, 2004, 9:13:22 PM9/7/04
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"PCK" <pck...@buffalo.edu> wrote in message
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Well lawsuits are one of the high costs of heath care don't you know. And if
I don't want to hire any liberal singers or actors I shouldn't have to.


Andrew Ryan Chang

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Sep 8, 2004, 4:13:27 AM9/8/04
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Rick <sigm...@yahoo.comxxx> wrote:
>"PCK" <pck...@buffalo.edu> wrote in message
>> Do you really think Bush is going after trial lawyers because he has a
>> sincere interested in tort reform? Or might it be because lawyers are
>> are large contributors to the opposing party?
>
>Well lawsuits are one of the high costs of heath care don't you know. And if

How do you know this, out of curiousity?

Lawsuits actually aren't that much of the cost of health care.
Malpractice costs are less than 2% of overall health care spending in the
US, according to the non-partisan CBO[1]. And in constant dollars, the
payout in judgements and settlements combined has been relatively
unchanged since the mid-80s[2], which strikes me as progress given
advancing age and population growth since then.

So if Bush's key plan is to cut down on medmal suits, a minor
slicette of a tiny slice (less than 2%, remember) of total health care
spending... he could probably find better ways to attack the problem,
assuming that was what he actually cared about solving.


[1] http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=4968&sequence=0
[2] http://gadflyer.com/ammodump/?AmmoDumpID=6


further reading:

http://wampum.wabanaki.net/archives/000886.html
http://wampum.wabanaki.net/archives/001036.html

and an excellent piece challenging the theory that tort reform will lead
to less "defensive medicine":

http://wampum.wabanaki.net/archives/001042.html

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businesses. The majority of them, in fact, made their bones in protected or
regulated industries, where success depends on personal lobbying and political
maneuvering." - James Surowiecki, "Bush's Buddy Economy", New Yorker, Oct 2 2002

Rick

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Sep 8, 2004, 10:05:13 AM9/8/04
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"Andrew Ryan Chang" <arc...@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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> Rick <sigm...@yahoo.comxxx> wrote:
> >"PCK" <pck...@buffalo.edu> wrote in message
> >> Do you really think Bush is going after trial lawyers because he has a
> >> sincere interested in tort reform? Or might it be because lawyers are
> >> are large contributors to the opposing party?
> >
> >Well lawsuits are one of the high costs of heath care don't you know. And
if
>
> How do you know this, out of curiousity?
>
> Lawsuits actually aren't that much of the cost of health care.
> Malpractice costs are less than 2% of overall health care spending in the
> US, according to the non-partisan CBO[1]. And in constant dollars, the
> payout in judgements and settlements combined has been relatively
> unchanged since the mid-80s[2], which strikes me as progress given
> advancing age and population growth since then.
>
> So if Bush's key plan is to cut down on medmal suits, a minor
> slicette of a tiny slice (less than 2%, remember) of total health care
> spending... he could probably find better ways to attack the problem,
> assuming that was what he actually cared about solving.
>
Then why are there some states that can't find doctors because of the high
cost of Mal practice insurance?
Also a lot of tests are needless just so they're protected
from lawsuits and you don't think that that won't raise the costs of
medicine.


ANIM8Rfsk

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Sep 8, 2004, 12:28:22 PM9/8/04
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<< From: "Rick" sigm...@yahoo.comxxx >>


<< Then why are there some states that can't find doctors because of the high
cost of Mal practice insurance? >>

The other side of it is, incompetent doctors almost never get the ass kicking
they deserve. If they did, maybe the insurance rates wouldn't be so high for
the rest of them.

_____

Kerry's response to President Bush:
"I have five words for America:
THIS IS YOUR WAKE-UP CALL"

Uh - hyphenated or not, that's 6 words, Sparky.

Andrew Ryan Chang

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Sep 8, 2004, 2:33:51 PM9/8/04
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Rick <sigm...@yahoo.comxxx> wrote:
>"Andrew Ryan Chang" <arc...@sfu.ca> wrote in message
>> Lawsuits actually aren't that much of the cost of health care.
>> Malpractice costs are less than 2% of overall health care spending in the
>> US, according to the non-partisan CBO[1]. And in constant dollars, the

<snip>


>Then why are there some states that can't find doctors because of the high
>cost of Mal practice insurance?

I don't know. Which states are those? Because the CBO has also
found that there is "no statistically significant difference in per capita
health care spending between states with and without malpractice tort
limits."[1]

[1]: http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=4091&sequence=0&from=6

>Also a lot of tests are needless just so they're protected
>from lawsuits and you don't think that that won't raise the costs of
>medicine.

I linked to an excellent refutation of the "defensive medicine is
what's costing too much" claim already in the previous post.

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