Are You Smarter than a Fifth Grader?
Ken from Chicago
MILLIONAIRE, WHO WANTS TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE?, TEMPTATION ISLAND, etc.),
and don't get me started poster child for human humiliation that is AMERICAN
IDOL, however ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the best
concept for a game show in years. You've got adults versus 10-year-olds in a
game of knowledge, kinda like a combo of JEOPARDY and JEOPARDY JR with
questions like:
1) How long is a regular term for a US representative? a) 2 years? b) 4
years? c) 6 years?
2) Inca civilizations were concentrated on what continent? a) South America?
b) Africa? c) North America?
3) A heptagon is a shape with how many sides? a) 8? b) 7? c) 9?
As easy as it to dump on tv--and especially Fox, cuz they make it so easy to
do so, more than amply easy--for putting on bad ideas on tv, it seems only
fair to do the flip side for something good.
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. Now if only the execution lives up to the hype.
P.P.S. Answers below:
http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/elfman/273877,CST-FTR-elf27a.article
1) a 2) a 3) b
But I'm sure we all knew the answers. C'mon, if a bunch of grade schoolers
would know, shirley we would now:
1) Federally, Presidents have 4-year terms and Senators have 6-year terms.
2) Incans were related to the Azteks who were featured in Mel Gibson's
recent movie.
3) A five-sided shape is a pentagon. A six-sided shape is a hexagon. A seven
side-shape is septagon. A nine-sided shape is a nonagon and as every Chuck
Norris fan knows, an eight-sided figure is THE OCTAGON.
Ken from Chicago
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> While Fox has put a ton of crap shows on tv and crap reality shows (JOE
> MILLIONAIRE, WHO WANTS TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE?, TEMPTATION ISLAND, etc.),
> and don't get me started poster child for human humiliation that is
> AMERICAN IDOL, however ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds
> like the best concept for a game show in years. You've got adults versus
> 10-year-olds in a game of knowledge, kinda like a combo of JEOPARDY and
> JEOPARDY JR with questions like:
D'oh!
Of course a fifth-grader might have mentioned it airs tonight on Fox at 8:30
PM Central.
-- Ken from Chicago
FDR
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> MILLIONAIRE, WHO WANTS TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE?, TEMPTATION ISLAND, etc.),
> and don't get me started poster child for human humiliation that is
> AMERICAN IDOL, however ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds
> like the best concept for a game show in years. You've got adults versus
> 10-year-olds in a game of knowledge, kinda like a combo of JEOPARDY and
> JEOPARDY JR with questions like:
>
> 1) How long is a regular term for a US representative? a) 2 years? b) 4
> years? c) 6 years?
>
> 2) Inca civilizations were concentrated on what continent? a) South
> America? b) Africa? c) North America?
>
> 3) A heptagon is a shape with how many sides? a) 8? b) 7? c) 9?
>
> As easy as it to dump on tv--and especially Fox, cuz they make it so easy
> to do so, more than amply easy--for putting on bad ideas on tv, it seems
> only fair to do the flip side for something good.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> P.S. Now if only the execution lives up to the hype.
>
> P.P.S. Answers below:
>
> http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/elfman/273877,CST-FTR-elf27a.article
>
And the spinoff to the this will be "Can You Flick a Booger Farther Than a
Fitfth grader?"
Obveeus
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> As easy as it to dump on tv--and especially Fox, cuz they make it so easy
> to do so, more than amply easy--for putting on bad ideas on tv, it seems
> only fair to do the flip side for something good.
I agree with you that the show at least has potential. I much prefer a
gameshow with 'trivia' to one with, say, suitcase opening as the challenge.
> P.S. Now if only the execution lives up to the hype.
It might all come down to the host and how annoying...
Picking decent contestants rather than going the 'Idol' route and featuring
losers intentionally is also a key.
> 1) a 2) a 3) b
>
> But I'm sure we all knew the answers. C'mon, if a bunch of grade schoolers
> would know, shirley we would now:
Those three questions weren't particularly hard. On the other hand, when
they get to questions like
'what type of art is defined by mosaic patterns of small stones or glass?'
A. Geometroidian
B. Tessellation
C. Cubism
'What year did the Lewis&Clark expidition start?'
A. 1804
B. 1813
C. 1836
'What type of clouds are sheet-like, transparent, upper atmosphere, ice
crystal formations?'
A. Stratocumulus
B. Nimbostratus
C. Cirrostratus
There really is a ton of 5th grade schooling that few people will know.
BTW, I am going to laugh my a$$ off if some question about Eli Whitney comes
up. Jeopardy (and every other trivia gameshow) seems to do one of those
every few weeks.
FDR
"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Then there's his brother Peyton and father Archie.
David
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>While Fox has put a ton of crap shows on tv and crap reality shows (JOE
>MILLIONAIRE, WHO WANTS TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE?, TEMPTATION ISLAND, etc.),
>and don't get me started poster child for human humiliation that is AMERICAN
>IDOL, however ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the best
>concept for a game show in years.
The show bugs me every time I hear about it. It's a flawed premise.
Not knowing things from a fifth grade textbook doesn't make one dumber
than a fifth grader.
Obveeus
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER?
>
> The show bugs me every time I hear about it. It's a flawed premise.
> Not knowing things from a fifth grade textbook doesn't make one dumber
> than a fifth grader.
I don't think you are really complaining about the premise (beat a 5th grade
level trivia contest). I think you are complaining about the title. Remind
me again, are you one of those people that thinks How I Met Your Mother has
a 'flawed premise' because the show hasn't stuck to that specific day when
the mother was actually met?
David
>
>"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>>ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER?
>>
>> The show bugs me every time I hear about it. It's a flawed premise.
>> Not knowing things from a fifth grade textbook doesn't make one dumber
>> than a fifth grader.
>
>I don't think you are really complaining about the premise (beat a 5th grade
>level trivia contest). I think you are complaining about the title.
No I'm complaining because the show is set up for maximum
embarrassment and to allow Foxworthy to get off jokes at the adults'
expense, even though the basis of the show is flawed.
I also wonder if the contestants were told what they were getting into
when they auditioned or if they were only told that it's a game show.
I know I'm judging something I haven't seen but I'm guessing this'll
be the standard FOX reality exercise in humiliation.
>Remind me again, are you one of those people that thinks How I Met Your Mother has
>a 'flawed premise'
I shouldn't have to remind you. You should just know.
Obveeus
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:33:01 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>I don't think you are really complaining about the premise (beat a 5th
>>grade
>>level trivia contest). I think you are complaining about the title.
>
> No I'm complaining because the show is set up for maximum
> embarrassment and to allow Foxworthy to get off jokes at the adults'
> expense, even though the basis of the show is flawed.
>
> I also wonder if the contestants were told what they were getting into
> when they auditioned or if they were only told that it's a game show.
> I know I'm judging something I haven't seen but I'm guessing this'll
> be the standard FOX reality exercise in humiliation.
If the show turns out to be like American Idol's 'look how bad this singer
is' stuff, I will agree with you. However, if the show tends to showcase
how much we (the home audience, not just the contestant) don't know that a
5th grader does...well, I'm fine with that. I'm not sure how the host will
embarrass the player much when the home audience will be well aware of how
many of the questions they could (or could not) answer. I guess we will
see.
>>Remind me again, are you one of those people that thinks How I Met Your
>>Mother has
>>a 'flawed premise'
>
> I shouldn't have to remind you. You should just know.
I have no memory for such trivia. I just know that there are people out
there bashing HIMYM based on a false belief that the show's title must
somehow express the full scope of the show. Logically, they would hate
Grey's Anatomy because there are other characters with storylines
'indepentent' of Grey, they would hate Heroes because some of the
characeters are bad guys, and they would hate Prison Break because the show
isn't confined to the day of the break out.
Steve Newport
diml...@yahoo.com (David)
than a fifth grader.
But it oughta at least make us stop and think. I'd like to see our Prez
and a Harvard senior on the show.
O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com
O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O
David
>
>"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:33:01 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>I don't think you are really complaining about the premise (beat a 5th
>>>grade
>>>level trivia contest). I think you are complaining about the title.
>>
>> No I'm complaining because the show is set up for maximum
>> embarrassment and to allow Foxworthy to get off jokes at the adults'
>> expense, even though the basis of the show is flawed.
>>
>> I also wonder if the contestants were told what they were getting into
>> when they auditioned or if they were only told that it's a game show.
>> I know I'm judging something I haven't seen but I'm guessing this'll
>> be the standard FOX reality exercise in humiliation.
>
>If the show turns out to be like American Idol's 'look how bad this singer
>is' stuff, I will agree with you. However, if the show tends to showcase
>how much we (the home audience, not just the contestant) don't know that a
>5th grader does...well, I'm fine with that. I'm not sure how the host will
>embarrass the player much when the home audience will be well aware of how
>many of the questions they could (or could not) answer. I guess we will
>see.
I don't think there's much chance that this won't be a "humorous"
displaying of supposedly dumb people. It's FOX and it's hosted by a
guy famous for doing jokes about stupid people.
Okay maybe there's a small chance since FOX didn't think it was
sensational enough to premiere during sweeps.
>>>Remind me again, are you one of those people that thinks How I Met Your
>>>Mother has
>>>a 'flawed premise'
>>
>> I shouldn't have to remind you. You should just know.
>
>I have no memory for such trivia.
So you're calling me trivial?
Obveeus
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I don't think there's much chance that this won't be a "humorous"
> displaying of supposedly dumb people. It's FOX and it's hosted by a
> guy famous for doing jokes about stupid people.
I don't have a problem with that as long as everyone (meaning audience) is
called out for their lack of knowledge rather than just the player.
American Idol just makes fun of the singer, rather than driving home the
fact that the people at home, watching from their couches, would be even
worse.
>>>>Remind me again, are you one of those people that thinks How I Met Your
>>>>Mother has a 'flawed premise'
>>>
>>> I shouldn't have to remind you. You should just know.
>>
>>I have no memory for such trivia.
>
> So you're calling me trivial?
Trivial? Nope. But maybe just a footnote.*
*Some TV viewers were confused by the Title: 'How I Met Your Mother' and
could never understand the 10 year TV run of the show. ;-)
Steven L.
> Those three questions weren't particularly hard. On the other hand, when
> they get to questions like
> 'what type of art is defined by mosaic patterns of small stones or glass?'
> A. Geometroidian
> B. Tessellation
> C. Cubism
You covered that in 5th grade? In my elementary school, they didn't
cover art or art history at all. Maybe the curriculum was still focused
on the 3R's (plus science) back in 1960. Art, not so much.
--
Steven D. Litvintchouk
Email: sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net
Remove the NOSPAM before replying to me.
Obveeus
"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> Obveeus wrote:
>
>> Those three questions weren't particularly hard. On the other hand, when
>> they get to questions like
>> 'what type of art is defined by mosaic patterns of small stones or
>> glass?'
>> A. Geometroidian
>> B. Tessellation
>> C. Cubism
>
> You covered that in 5th grade? In my elementary school, they didn't cover
> art or art history at all. Maybe the curriculum was still focused on the
> 3R's (plus science) back in 1960. Art, not so much.
If you have an art class, the chances are that the art teacher went to
college and picked up lots of irrelevant 'trivia' about art. Mostly, the
kids 'do' art projects, but even in art class the 'jargon' comes out.
Knowing what 'tessellation' is, is just as useful as knowing what a 'slide
rule' is.
Anim8rFSK
"Steven L." <sdli...@earthlinkNOSPAM.net> wrote:
> Obveeus wrote:
>
> > Those three questions weren't particularly hard. On the other hand, when
> > they get to questions like
> > 'what type of art is defined by mosaic patterns of small stones or glass?'
> > A. Geometroidian
> > B. Tessellation
> > C. Cubism
>
> You covered that in 5th grade? In my elementary school, they didn't
> cover art or art history at all. Maybe the curriculum was still focused
> on the 3R's (plus science) back in 1960. Art, not so much.
We didn't get stuff like Cubism 'til college.
Ian J. Ball
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I once got beaten up by a 5th grader.
Ian (Oh, OK, it was just last week, but still!!)
--
"Read less. More TV." - Dr. Greg House, "House"
http://homepage.mac.com/ijball/TV-Blog/
Obveeus
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball***NO-SPAM***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
> I once got beaten up by a 5th grader.
5th graders are fast at getting up. Lots of energy and arthritis hasn't set
in. ;-)
That might make for a great spinoff show. Have average people go head to
head in physical contests (obstacle courses, short runs/swims, balance
contests, and such) against adults.
Ken from Chicago
"FDR" <_removespam...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:lbadne2bspKBvnnY...@comcast.com...
>> While Fox has put a ton of crap shows on tv and crap reality shows (JOE
>> MILLIONAIRE, WHO WANTS TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE?, TEMPTATION ISLAND, etc.),
>> and don't get me started poster child for human humiliation that is
>> AMERICAN IDOL, however ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds
>> like the best concept for a game show in years. You've got adults versus
>> 10-year-olds in a game of knowledge, kinda like a combo of JEOPARDY and
>> JEOPARDY JR with questions like:
>>
>> 1) How long is a regular term for a US representative? a) 2 years? b) 4
>> years? c) 6 years?
>>
>> 2) Inca civilizations were concentrated on what continent? a) South
>> America? b) Africa? c) North America?
>>
>> 3) A heptagon is a shape with how many sides? a) 8? b) 7? c) 9?
>>
>> As easy as it to dump on tv--and especially Fox, cuz they make it so easy
>> to do so, more than amply easy--for putting on bad ideas on tv, it seems
>> only fair to do the flip side for something good.
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago
>>
>> P.S. Now if only the execution lives up to the hype.
>>
>> P.P.S. Answers below:
>>
>> http://www.suntimes.com/entertainment/elfman/273877,CST-FTR-elf27a.article
>>
>
> And the spinoff to the this will be "Can You Flick a Booger Farther Than a
> Fitfth grader?"
EEEEEWWWWWWW!!!!!
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
>> As easy as it to dump on tv--and especially Fox, cuz they make it so easy
>> to do so, more than amply easy--for putting on bad ideas on tv, it seems
>> only fair to do the flip side for something good.
>
> I agree with you that the show at least has potential. I much prefer a
> gameshow with 'trivia' to one with, say, suitcase opening as the
> challenge.
Don't get me started on DEAL OR NO DEAL.
>> P.S. Now if only the execution lives up to the hype.
>
> It might all come down to the host and how annoying...
Jeff Foxworthy is pretty good and pretty entertaining, IMHO.
> Picking decent contestants rather than going the 'Idol' route and
> featuring losers intentionally is also a key.
Or overexcited always-dancing contestants ala DEAL OR NO DEAL.
>
>> 1) a 2) a 3) b
>>
>> But I'm sure we all knew the answers. C'mon, if a bunch of grade
>> schoolers would know, shirley we would now:
>
> Those three questions weren't particularly hard. On the other hand, when
> they get to questions like
> 'what type of art is defined by mosaic patterns of small stones or glass?'
> A. Geometroidian
> B. Tessellation
> C. Cubism
>
> 'What year did the Lewis&Clark expidition start?'
> A. 1804
> B. 1813
> C. 1836
>
> 'What type of clouds are sheet-like, transparent, upper atmosphere, ice
> crystal formations?'
> A. Stratocumulus
> B. Nimbostratus
> C. Cirrostratus
>
> There really is a ton of 5th grade schooling that few people will know.
Oh come on. I don't remember that from 5th grade. Then again that was the
late 70s.
> BTW, I am going to laugh my a$$ off if some question about Eli Whitney
> comes
She was really great in MY BODYGUARD with Kevin Pollack! Too bad her
marriage with Bobby Seale hit the rocks.
> up. Jeopardy (and every other trivia gameshow) seems to do one of those
> every few weeks.
Game shows like pop culture--like me.
-- Ken from Chicago (pop culture expert)
Ken from Chicago
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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We got that in high school. Then again that was back in the '80s. They might
have it in grade school by now.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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It highlights the difference between what is expected of kids versus adults.
Be polite. Share your toys. Don't swear. Know your times table. Use standard
English., etc.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Steve Newport" <Newpor...@webtv.net> wrote in message
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We have already seen that. We call it the 2004 Presidential election.
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. And Bush got better grades than Kerry--his Harvard Skull & Bones buddy.
Ken from Chicago
And how does beating up a 5th grader make you look good?
Dude, it's a no-win deal.
-- Ken from Chicago
Kevrob
wrote:
> "David" <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
If they do it right, AYST5G? could be a hoot for families that have
grammar-school age kids. Everytime Bud or Princess knows an answer,
and Mom or Dad doesn't, the kids will bust their parents' chops. The
Idol lead-in may bring it a lot of viewers for its first ep, but do
parents let their primary-school age children stay up to 9:30 EST/8:30
CST on a school night? I'm pretty sure I didn't get to stay up that
late at that age, except on the weekend.
When I was a 5th-grader, I loved watching the game shows with real
mental challenges - JEOPARDY, CONCENTRATION, PASSWORD (with a piece of
cardboard leaning against the bottom of the screen, so we could play
along.) Does FOX not expect any kids to want to watch this?
Kevin
Kevin
Anim8rFSK
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball***NO-SPAM***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article <4ol8u2tta4n6h2sup...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:24:55 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
> > <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> > >While Fox has put a ton of crap shows on tv and crap reality shows (JOE
> > >MILLIONAIRE, WHO WANTS TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE?, TEMPTATION ISLAND, etc.),
> > >and don't get me started poster child for human humiliation that is
> > >AMERICAN
> > >IDOL, however ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the
> > >best
> > >concept for a game show in years.
> >
> > The show bugs me every time I hear about it. It's a flawed premise.
> > Not knowing things from a fifth grade textbook doesn't make one dumber
> > than a fifth grader.
>
> I once got beaten up by a 5th grader.
>
>
> Ian (Oh, OK, it was just last week, but still!!)
What was her name?
Anim8rFSK
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
We didn't have any art classes in high school. Well, there were, but
they were voluntary, and the teacher was incompetent. I checked it out
and took mechanical drawing instead.
Anim8rFSK
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
It puts the fear of God into the 6th graders.
Kevrob
wrote:
> "Steve Newport" <NewportsRe...@webtv.net> wrote in message
>
> news:22964-45E...@storefull-3156.bay.webtv.net...
>
>
>
> > dimla...@yahoo.com (David)
> > Not knowing things from a fifth grade textbook doesn't make one dumber
> > than a fifth grader.
> > ------------------------------------------
> > But it oughta at least make us stop and think. I'd like to see our Prez
> > and a Harvard senior on the show.
>
> > O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O
> >http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com
> > O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O
>
> We have already seen that. We call it the 2004 Presidential election.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> P.S. And Bush got better grades than Kerry--his Harvard Skull & Bones buddy.
Yale, actually, though Bush did get a Harvard MBA.
Kevin
David
<ijball***NO-SPAM***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <4ol8u2tta4n6h2sup...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:24:55 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
>> <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >While Fox has put a ton of crap shows on tv and crap reality shows (JOE
>> >MILLIONAIRE, WHO WANTS TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE?, TEMPTATION ISLAND, etc.),
>> >and don't get me started poster child for human humiliation that is AMERICAN
>> >IDOL, however ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the best
>> >concept for a game show in years.
>>
>> The show bugs me every time I hear about it. It's a flawed premise.
>> Not knowing things from a fifth grade textbook doesn't make one dumber
>> than a fifth grader.
>
>I once got beaten up by a 5th grader.
>
>
>Ian (Oh, OK, it was just last week, but still!!)
You had it coming.
David
>
>"Ian J. Ball" <ijball***NO-SPAM***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> I once got beaten up by a 5th grader.
>
>5th graders are fast at getting up. Lots of energy and arthritis hasn't set
>in. ;-)
Plus Ian teases them with his "Hannah Montana" lunchbox.
Obveeus
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 'what type of art is defined by mosaic patterns of small stones or
>> glass?'
>> A. Geometroidian
>> B. Tessellation
>> C. Cubism
>>
>> 'What year did the Lewis&Clark expidition start?'
>> A. 1804
>> B. 1813
>> C. 1836
>>
>> 'What type of clouds are sheet-like, transparent, upper atmosphere, ice
>> crystal formations?'
>> A. Stratocumulus
>> B. Nimbostratus
>> C. Cirrostratus
>>
>> There really is a ton of 5th grade schooling that few people will know.
>
> Oh come on. I don't remember that from 5th grade.
That's the whole point. Adults don't remember most of what is taught in 5th
grade. Adults can still read and a few of them can still add, but most of
them cannot even figure out how many centimeters are in an inch. this show
could ramp it up a notch and ask questions, such as the ones above, about
stuff taught in 5th grade and not used since.
>> BTW, I am going to laugh my a$$ off if some question about Eli Whitney
>> comes
>
> She was really great in MY BODYGUARD with Kevin Pollack! Too bad her
> marriage with Bobby Seale hit the rocks.
I suppose I should be thankful you didn't say Eli Whitney was married to
Bobby Brown. ;-)
> Game shows like pop culture--like me.
>
> -- Ken from Chicago (pop culture expert)
Thus the knowledge of New Coke vs. Original Coke?
Obveeus
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the best concept for
>a game show in years.
Ok, I just finished watching it.
Comments:
GOOD:
A. Questions that seem to challenge the adults and seem to be easy for the
kids. I knew every answer, but the adult contestants only knew one of the
answers.
B. Some Foxworthy banter: telling the contestant she could quit with X
dollars and that it was only a smidge away from one million.
BAD:
A. This show is too close a copy off of Who Wants to be a Millionaire
B. The show moves too slow, only about 6 questions all episode.
C. Too much potential for children to be blamed for the adult's loss.
D. Foxworthy banter: berating a contestant for taking so long to answer
when, by definition, they cannot even attempt to answer before the kid has
finished writing and locked in their answer.
E. Like all gameshows, the contestants seem to have been chosen for their
peppiness rather than any ability to think.
INDIFFERENT:
A. Kids all seem like child actors. One girl even pretended that she
didn't have the correct answer when she, in fact, did.
B. Crowd noise seemed to be generated by cue cards rather than *real* crowd
reactions.
Overall, I can't see this show lasting, but then again, I don't see why Deal
or No Deal is on the air, either.
Barbara Bailey
>
>"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 'what type of art is defined by mosaic patterns of small stones or
>>> glass?'
>>> A. Geometroidian
>>> B. Tessellation
>>> C. Cubism
>>>
>>> 'What year did the Lewis&Clark expidition start?'
>>> A. 1804
>>> B. 1813
>>> C. 1836
>>>
>>> 'What type of clouds are sheet-like, transparent, upper atmosphere, ice
>>> crystal formations?'
>>> A. Stratocumulus
>>> B. Nimbostratus
>>> C. Cirrostratus
>>>
>>> There really is a ton of 5th grade schooling that few people will know.
>>
>> Oh come on. I don't remember that from 5th grade.
>
>That's the whole point. Adults don't remember most of what is taught in 5th
>grade. Adults can still read and a few of them can still add, but most of
>them cannot even figure out how many centimeters are in an inch. this show
>could ramp it up a notch and ask questions, such as the ones above, about
>stuff taught in 5th grade and not used since.
Of the three questions above, the Lewis and Clark one would be about
right for 5th grade history, the clouds one might have come up in 5th
grade science, but it would probably have been a passing mention, not
something that would be on the chapter test.
But the art one? Not in 5th grade. In fifth grade art I'd expect
something more like" What is the name of the art form that uses small
pieces of stone or glass to form the work?" with the answer being
"Mosaic."
--
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Barry Margolin
Barbara Bailey <rabr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I remember studying cloud types, either in grade school or maybe junior
high earth science.
>
> But the art one? Not in 5th grade. In fifth grade art I'd expect
> something more like" What is the name of the art form that uses small
> pieces of stone or glass to form the work?" with the answer being
> "Mosaic."
I was thinking exactly the same thing. That's about the level of detail
I'd expect in a general grade school art class. The types he mention
sound more appropriate for a high school art elective class.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
Kevrob
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the best concept for
> >a game show in years.
>
> Ok, I just finished watching it.
>
> Comments:
>
> GOOD:
> A. Questions that seem to challenge the adults and seem to be easy for the
> kids. I knew every answer, but the adult contestants only knew one of the
> answers.
> B. Some Foxworthy banter: telling the contestant she could quit with X
> dollars and that it was only a smidge away from one million.
>
> BAD:
> A. This show is too close a copy off of Who Wants to be a Millionaire
> B. The show moves too slow, only about 6 questions all episode.
This is its biggest flaw. I went out for a sandwich, and was listening
to a podcast of one of the network Sunday morning news shows on my mp3
player. When the bottom of the hour rolled arouns, I switched on my
watchman-sized portable TV, plugged in the headphones and tuned in
AYST5G? . Man, did it DRaggggggggggg!
> C. Too much potential for children to be blamed for the adult's loss.
Mebbe so, but the kids were rock stars xompared th the doofus adults.
> D. Foxworthy banter: berating a contestant for taking so long to answer
> when, by definition, they cannot even attempt to answer before the kid has
> finished writing and locked in their answer.
The lady that got the Pilgrim question* seemed like she was afraid
that she would have been electrocuted if she locked in an incorrect
answer.
> E. Like all gameshows, the contestants seem to have been chosen for their
> peppiness rather than any ability to think.
>
Thinking may come in handy with some of the Q's (the area of a
triangle one, frex), but most of what was lacking was MEMORY. That
shouldn't surprise, as the Edublob declared war on "rote learning"
about 30 years ago, and many folks have purged their long-term memory
banks of stuff they don't use on a regular basis. Hey, who needs them
now that we have Google?
The guy from UCLA who blew the impeachment question was just sad. He
claimed to have an American History B.A.
> INDIFFERENT:
> A. Kids all seem like child actors. One girl even pretended that she
> didn't have the correct answer when she, in fact, did.
A little of that is OK, and was probably encouraged by the producers.
The young fella with the glasses (Spenser?) has probably been saved
from a lifetime of schoolyard beatdowns by his appearance on TV. Good
for him.
> B. Crowd noise seemed to be generated by cue cards rather than *real* crowd
> reactions.
>
Watching on a tiny screen and listening in mono on one headphone, I'll
take your word for it.
> Overall, I can't see this show lasting, but then again, I don't see why Deal
> or No Deal is on the air, either.
Uh, lots of pretty girls? I like pretty girls, but I've never
bothered to tune into DorND. There's lots of other places to find
them, on TV or elsewhere.
Kevin
Ken from Chicago
I went to a magnet school. We had to take a course in art--and I had a
mathematics / scientific course. Some students had artistic course.
-- Ken from Chicago
Obveeus
"Barry Margolin" <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Barbara Bailey <rabr...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Of the three questions above, the Lewis and Clark one would be about
>> right for 5th grade history, the clouds one might have come up in 5th
>> grade science, but it would probably have been a passing mention, not
>> something that would be on the chapter test.
>
> I remember studying cloud types, either in grade school or maybe junior
> high earth science.
>
>>
>> But the art one? Not in 5th grade. In fifth grade art I'd expect
>> something more like" What is the name of the art form that uses small
>> pieces of stone or glass to form the work?" with the answer being
>> "Mosaic."
>
> I was thinking exactly the same thing. That's about the level of detail
> I'd expect in a general grade school art class. The types he mention
> sound more appropriate for a high school art elective class.
Whine, whine, whine. Try going to Yahoo and doing a search.
Search term: +"5th grade" +clouds
Search term: +"5th grade" +tessellation
Search term: +"5th grade" +cubism
Search term: +"5th grade" +history
These weren't trick questions. They were stuff little kids learn in school.
The fact that adults don't know it is exactly what the concept of this
gameshow is (or should be) about.
Personally, I think the best question of the show was the one about finding
the area of a triangle. I'm sure almost all 5th graders can do that, yet
apparently adults think it is hard. Too funny.
Ken from Chicago
>
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 'what type of art is defined by mosaic patterns of small stones or
>>> glass?'
>>> A. Geometroidian
>>> B. Tessellation
>>> C. Cubism
>>>
>>> 'What year did the Lewis&Clark expidition start?'
>>> A. 1804
>>> B. 1813
>>> C. 1836
>>>
>>> 'What type of clouds are sheet-like, transparent, upper atmosphere, ice
>>> crystal formations?'
>>> A. Stratocumulus
>>> B. Nimbostratus
>>> C. Cirrostratus
>>>
>>> There really is a ton of 5th grade schooling that few people will know.
>>
>> Oh come on. I don't remember that from 5th grade.
>
> That's the whole point. Adults don't remember most of what is taught in
> 5th grade. Adults can still read and a few of them can still add, but
> most of
General newspapers and magazines tend to be written with an 8th grade
vocabulary.
> them cannot even figure out how many centimeters are in an inch. this
> show could ramp it up a notch and ask questions, such as the ones above,
> about stuff taught in 5th grade and not used since.
2.54 centimeters in an inch. 3.3 feet in a meter.
>>> BTW, I am going to laugh my a$$ off if some question about Eli Whitney
>>> comes
>>
>> She was really great in MY BODYGUARD with Kevin Pollack! Too bad her
>> marriage with Bobby Seale hit the rocks.
>
> I suppose I should be thankful you didn't say Eli Whitney was married to
> Bobby Brown. ;-)
Why would she be married to the spokesman for E.D.?
>> Game shows like pop culture--like me.
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago (pop culture expert)
>
> Thus the knowledge of New Coke vs. Original Coke?
I just say "No" to drugs.
-- Ken from Chicago (high on life)
Ken from Chicago
"Kevrob" <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1172626229....@8g2000cwh.googlegroups.com...
The important is that Bush is from ... gasp ... Massachusetts--just like
Kerry, Massachusetts Liberals (great baseball team) and ... the
Kennedys!!!!!
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
Touche!
-- Ken from Chicago
Kevrob
wrote:
> "Kevrob" <kev...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>
> The important is that Bush is from ... gasp ... Massachusetts--just like
> Kerry, Massachusetts Liberals (great baseball team) and ... the
> Kennedys!!!!!
>
Nope. Young Bushie was born and spent the first two years of his life
in New Haven, CT, home of Yale University. Then GHWB and Bar split for
Tejas.
The Bushes have that summer place in ME, and Maine used to be part of
Mass......
Kevin
pe...@home.com
>On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 06:24:55 -0600, "Ken from Chicago"
><kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>While Fox has put a ton of crap shows on tv and crap reality shows (JOE
>>MILLIONAIRE, WHO WANTS TO MARRY A MILLIONAIRE?, TEMPTATION ISLAND, etc.),
>>and don't get me started poster child for human humiliation that is AMERICAN
>>IDOL, however ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the best
>>concept for a game show in years.
>
>The show bugs me every time I hear about it. It's a flawed premise.
>Not knowing things from a fifth grade textbook doesn't make one dumber
>than a fifth grader.
The show sucked. They could have done it so much better. The first
contestant was a UCLA graduate and he missed the first question, "In
what month do we celebrate Columbus Day?" He went on to have to use
help on the next two questions (the questions range from first grade
to fifth) before he was eliminated completely. The next contestant
wasn't much better and I stopped watching after her second question.
This show is so easy to fake, with the adult contestants not knowing
any of the answers and the school kids knowing all of them. I'll take
opening suitcases anyday. At least I know it's real.
pe...@home.com
Newport) wrote:
>
>diml...@yahoo.com (David)
>Not knowing things from a fifth grade textbook doesn't make one dumber
>than a fifth grader.
>------------------------------------------
>But it oughta at least make us stop and think. I'd like to see our Prez
>and a Harvard senior on the show.
>
>
>O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O
>http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com
>O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O~O
It makes me (and I'm sure a few children would agree) think that the
stuff we learn in fifth grade isn't important enough to remember when
we get to be adults.
pe...@home.com
wrote:
I took stained glass and jewelry making, both electives. I was in the
art club and we painted a mural on the gymnasium wall. I don't recall
studying art until college. In high school, it was all hands-on
creating. (class of 78)
Obveeus
<pe...@home.com> wrote:
> The next contestant
> wasn't much better and I stopped watching after her second question.
Sounds like you watched the entire show.
> This show is so easy to fake, with the adult contestants not knowing
> any of the answers and the school kids knowing all of them. I'll take
> opening suitcases anyday. At least I know it's real.
You don't think the average adult is really that stupid?
jewahe
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the best concept for
> >a game show in years.
>
> Ok, I just finished watching it.
>
<snip>
> Comments:
> Overall, I can't see this show lasting, but then again, I don't see why Deal
> or No Deal is on the air, either.
I thought it was too much of a drag...really designed to maximum the
"dumb" moments of the adults. Foxworthy just didn't set a good pace,
and it felt like it was over before it really got started.
mike...@gmail.com
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2007 11:33:01 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> >> than a fifth grader.
>
> >level trivia contest). I think you are complaining about the title.
>
> No I'm complaining because the show is set up for maximum
> embarrassment and to allow Foxworthy to get off jokes at the adults'
> expense, even though the basis of the show is flawed.
>
> I also wonder if the contestants were told what they were getting into
> when they auditioned or if they were only told that it's a game show.
> I know I'm judging something I haven't seen but I'm guessing this'll
> be the standard FOX reality exercise in humiliation.
>
Yep, it is the standard exercise in humiliation. They seem to
deliberately cast the dumbest contestants they can find so that
Foxworthy can make fun of them. Otherwise, the questions are so easy
that the calibre of contestant that you see on Jeopardy would easily
win the million.
Obveeus
<mike...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Otherwise, the questions are so easy
> that the calibre of contestant that you see on Jeopardy would easily
> win the million.
I'm not sure we can determine that, yet. Neither of the contestants did
well enough in the game to see if the questions get more difficult. If you
watched the first half dozen questions on 'Who Wants to be a Millionaire',
you would think anyone could win the million as well.
As for Jeopardy players, I'm sure that almost all of them would have known
which President was first impeached, but most of them would miss the
triangle area question. Jeopardy players tend to be very strong on history,
but very weak on math/science applications. If you watch Jeopardy, you will
notice that most of the math/science questions on that show are really just
asking for *names* of mathematicians, scientists, elements, etc...which is
more historical trivia than any actual knowledge of the subject matter.
Anim8rFSK
"Erik Lehsnherr High"
> We had to take a course in art--and I had a
> mathematics / scientific course. Some students had artistic course.
One great course we had was PAPERBACK POWER -- Mr. Larabell, the rebel,
managed to convince the powers that be that books were actually still
books even if they weren't in hardcover. He was sort of the anti Sam
Cogley.
Default User
> In article <jJSdnfuvGNyL9njY...@comcast.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > I went to a magnet school.
>
> "Erik Lehsnherr High"
I always thought a good name for a magnet school would be Alnico.
Brian
--
If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
won't shut up.
-- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)
Ken from Chicago
Cute.
>> We had to take a course in art--and I had a
>> mathematics / scientific course. Some students had artistic course.
>
> One great course we had was PAPERBACK POWER -- Mr. Larabell, the rebel,
> managed to convince the powers that be that books were actually still
> books even if they weren't in hardcover. He was sort of the anti Sam
> Cogley.
There's always a cool teacher or professor, the one with a sports blazer and
turtleneck instead of suit and tie, with shades instead of glasses, who
rapped with the kids instead of lectured.
-- Ken from Chicago (who's hep to the hap'nin')
Anim8rFSK
He wasn't that one. He was the nice little old man who came to teaching
late and was WAY smarter than the rest of the faculty, and got snatched
up by the university.
It's amazing to recall that there was a time that high school teachers
looked down on paperback books merely because of their binding.
pe...@home.com
I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade being
stupid.
Obveeus
So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of stupidity?
What exactly does qualify?
Arnold Kim
>
> <pe...@home.com> wrote:
>> I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade being
>> stupid.
>
> So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of stupidity?
Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing, not knowing the exact year of
the arrival of the name of the ship the pilgrims came in is another.
Arnold Kim
Obveeus
"Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:es6otl$o8b$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>> <pe...@home.com> wrote:
>>> I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade being
>>> stupid.
>>
>> So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of stupidity?
>
> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing,
Agreed. Anyone that can't find the area of a triangle is stupid. People
can complain all they want about this kind of knowledge not being useful to
everyday life, but honestly, I want to see those people put forth their own
definition of what 'stupid' is if they don't think the word equates with any
sort of knowledge base. Is 'not stupid' based upon the ability to drive a
car, work a remote control, click on a web link?
> not knowing the exact year of the arrival of the name of the ship the
> pilgrims came in is another.
Was that an actual question?
Anim8rFSK
"Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
In fourteen hundred and ninety three
Columbus sailed the deep blue sea
CoasterKev!
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1b_nos...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >ARE YOU SMARTER THAN A FIFTH GRADER? just sounds like the best concept for
> >a game show in years.
>
> Ok, I just finished watching it.
>
>
> GOOD:
> A. Questions that seem to challenge the adults and seem to be easy for the
> kids.
They are easy for the kids because the end credits say the kids have
been given workbooks that may contain the answers.
shawn
Well, not being able to add and subtract when on national television
(and I'm guessing front of a live audience) isn't quite the same as
not remembering how to add and subtract in real life. Some people can
handle the lights, cameras and audience with no problems, while others
really feel the pressure to do well and just can't do it.
Default User
No, they only asked for the name of the ship.
Obveeus
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing, not knowing the exact year
>> of
>> the arrival of the name of the ship the pilgrims came in is another.
>
> In fourteen hundred and ninety three
> Columbus sailed the deep blue sea
Silly boy, Columus wasn't a pilgrim. Besides, the way to remember it is:
In fourteen hundred and ninety four
Columbus sailed then came ashore
Obveeus
"shawn" <nanof...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, not being able to add and subtract when on national television
> (and I'm guessing front of a live audience) isn't quite the same as
> not remembering how to add and subtract in real life. Some people can
> handle the lights, cameras and audience with no problems, while others
> really feel the pressure to do well and just can't do it.
I agree with you on that. I think the same applies to other reality style
shows as well. Anyone can untie a knot, but doing so when you haven't eaten
in a couple of days and when speed will determine if you lose a shot at a
million dollars...
Default User
In fourteen hundred and ninety-one
Columbus was home, he hadn't begun
Arnold Kim
>
> "Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:es6otl$o8b$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> <pe...@home.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade being
>>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of stupidity?
>>
>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing,
>
> Agreed. Anyone that can't find the area of a triangle is stupid. People
> can complain all they want about this kind of knowledge not being useful
> to everyday life, but honestly, I want to see those people put forth their
> own definition of what 'stupid' is if they don't think the word equates
> with any sort of knowledge base. Is 'not stupid' based upon the ability
> to drive a car, work a remote control, click on a web link?
I think stupid is based on the ability to absorb and process new
information. Forgetting factual details because you didn't need to use them
in 20 years isn't the same thing. My mom didn't know where Oregon was
located on a map, but she's incredibly facile when it comes to picking up
languages.
>> not knowing the exact year of the arrival of the name of the ship the
>> pilgrims came in is another.
>
> Was that an actual question?
Ugh, that was horribly worded. "not knowing the exact year of the
arrival -or- the name of the ship the pilgrims came in is another". There
was a specific question about the name of the ship, but I was just speaking
generally about the kinds of questions they'd ask on the show.
Arnold Kim
Anim8rFSK
"Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
Ah. The name I could blurt out. The exact year, not so much. But then
I know a lot of southwestern dates I'm sure east coasters don't.
Walt Tucker
Too bad for both of you that Columbus' expedition was in 1492.
In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue....
Obveeus
"Walt Tucker" <walt_...@mentor.com> wrote:
The funny thing is that you probably think you just showed intelligence
rather than lack thereof.
Anim8rFSK
"Walt Tucker" <walt_...@mentor.com> wrote:
And the LOST IN SPACE reference jokes go whoooooooooosh over Walt's head
like the Space Mayflower.
~consul
> I think when things are properly taught, they will stick for a
> lifetime. That said, I can properly place all of the state west of
> the Mississippi. Forget east coast/New England. I don't live
> there, haven't visited there, and they're too small to have noticed
> them much.
> Now, give us a go at the Capitols!
School did nothing for me on that note, it was Animaniacs.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here,
at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, Jameson Stalanthas Yu -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
Seerialmom
> "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote in message
>
> news:es771r$7mp$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>
>
>
> > "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >> "Arnold Kim" <arnold...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing, not knowing the exact
> >>> year of
> >>> the arrival of the name of the ship the pilgrims came in is another.
>
> >> In fourteen hundred and ninety three
> >> Columbus sailed the deep blue sea
>
> > Silly boy, Columus wasn't a pilgrim. Besides, the way to remember it is:
> > In fourteen hundred and ninety four
> > Columbus sailed then came ashore
>
> Too bad for both of you that Columbus' expedition was in 1492.
>
> In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue....
The previous posts flew right over, didn't they? :-p
Anim8rFSK
"It's the Principle!" <bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
> :::snerk::: I hope you're kidding.
Yes. It's a Doctor Smith quote from LOST IN SPACE. It's how he taught
the Robinson children. The best part is, you can actually fool people
with it, 'cause, you know, it rhymes and stuff. Works better spoken.
Default User
It's not wrong, Columbus's second expedition left in 1493. It's just
not the answer to when was first one. And of course nothing to do with
Plymouth Rock (which by the way is disappointing in person).
Obveeus
"Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>And of course nothing to do with
> Plymouth Rock (which by the way is disappointing in person).
Not enough rock for you? It would be cool if it was a massive clifflike
structure, but then again, they were trying to land a boat there.
Ken from Chicago
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-1293A...@news.phx.highwinds-media.com...
> In article <Wp6dnQYYWfWTt3vY...@comcast.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
<snip>
>> There's always a cool teacher or professor, the one with a sports blazer
>> and
>> turtleneck instead of suit and tie, with shades instead of glasses, who
>> rapped with the kids instead of lectured.
>
> He wasn't that one. He was the nice little old man who came to teaching
> late and was WAY smarter than the rest of the faculty, and got snatched
> up by the university.
>
> It's amazing to recall that there was a time that high school teachers
> looked down on paperback books merely because of their binding.
"Don't judge a book by its cover" didn't become cliche without a reason.
Look at how people (in America) look down on comic books, science fiction or
... animation.
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. Or comedy. Try and name the last 3 comedies to win Best Film Oscar.
Default User
Well, bigger than what they have, at least. You go there, there's this
big old pit with a little rock sitting in it. That's it? I've seen
bigger rocks in people's gardens.
donGoliano
"It's the Principle!" <bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote in message
news:Xns98E6B2C7...@64.209.0.81...
> Default User <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>
>> Obveeus wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> >"Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing, not knowing
>>> > > the exact year of the arrival of the name of the ship the
>>> > > pilgrims came in is another.
>>> >
>>> > In fourteen hundred and ninety three
>>> > Columbus sailed the deep blue sea
>>>
>>> Silly boy, Columus wasn't a pilgrim. Besides, the way to
>>> remember it is: In fourteen hundred and ninety four
>>> Columbus sailed then came ashore
>>
>> In fourteen hundred and ninety-one
>> Columbus was home, he hadn't begun
>>
>>
>
>
Basically, Columbus got lost on his way to India.
donGoliano
"Walt Tucker" <walt_...@mentor.com> wrote in message
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Anim8rFSK
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> > In article <Wp6dnQYYWfWTt3vY...@comcast.com>,
> > "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> There's always a cool teacher or professor, the one with a sports blazer
> >> and
> >> turtleneck instead of suit and tie, with shades instead of glasses, who
> >> rapped with the kids instead of lectured.
> >
> > He wasn't that one. He was the nice little old man who came to teaching
> > late and was WAY smarter than the rest of the faculty, and got snatched
> > up by the university.
> >
> > It's amazing to recall that there was a time that high school teachers
> > looked down on paperback books merely because of their binding.
>
> "Don't judge a book by its cover" didn't become cliche without a reason.
> Look at how people (in America) look down on comic books, science fiction or
> ... animation.
tis but a drop but is heart's blood
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> P.S. Or comedy. Try and name the last 3 comedies to win Best Film Oscar.
Intentional comedies?
Can they be musicals as well?
Anim8rFSK
> Hmm. I'm usually pretty good at spotting LIS stuff.
The best part is, I don't think they ever corrected it, either. Just
left it hanging there with him teaching Will and Penny wrong. :)
No idea what ep it is though. I have a bunch of 'em on DVD but they're
impossibly tough to wade through.
Arthur Lipscomb
"It's the Principle!" <bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote in message
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>
The beans on Beta burn better on the burner.
Michael Black
after two (or was it three?) seasons? If not, then how is some history
of Earth really going to affect them? It's not like it didn't give
a general idea of when Columbus sailed, which perhaps might matter
in understanding something.
Of course, perhaps you are worried about the "poor children" at home
who got bad information via the show.
Michael
Anim8rFSK
et...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) wrote:
Three.
>
> Of course, perhaps you are worried about the "poor children" at home
> who got bad information via the show.
That's why I find it amusing, yes. Today the Robot would have to come
in and correct Dr. Smith and give a little history lesson.
Jamie Brinkoeter
>
> "Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:es6otl$o8b$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> <pe...@home.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade being
>>>> stupid.
>>>
>>> So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of stupidity?
>>
>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing,
>
I'm 61 years old, so it has been a very long time since I learned how to
find the area of a triangle. It wasn't something I retained or ever needed
in my career, and I frankly don't give a shit how it's done. On the other
side of the coin, I'm very good with spelling, grammar, history, geography,
languages and plenty of other subjects. Am I stupid because I'm not good at
math and science, or just because I don't remember how to find the area of a
triangle?
Kevrob
> "Walt Tucker" <walt_tuc...@mentor.com> wrote:
> >news:es771r$7mp$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>
> >> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> "Arnold Kim" <arnold...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >>>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing, not knowing the exact
> >>>> year of
> >>>> the arrival of the name of the ship the pilgrims came in is another.
>
> >>> In fourteen hundred and ninety three
> >>> Columbus sailed the deep blue sea
>
> >> Silly boy, Columus wasn't a pilgrim. Besides, the way to remember it is:
> >> In fourteen hundred and ninety four
> >> Columbus sailed then came ashore
>
> > Too bad for both of you that Columbus' expedition was in 1492.
>
> > In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue....
>
> The funny thing is that you probably think you just showed intelligence
> rather than lack thereof.
In Five Hundred Thirty, goes the convention
St. Brendan commenced on his Navigation.
Kevin
Ken from Chicago
Yes, intentional comedies. Musicals are different.
-- Ken from Chicago
pe...@home.com
>
><pe...@home.com> wrote:
>> I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade being
>> stupid.
>
>So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of stupidity?
>
>What exactly does qualify?
>
How many addition and subtraction questions have there been?
pe...@home.com
<arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
>>> news:es6otl$o8b$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>> <pe...@home.com> wrote:
>>>>> I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade being
>>>>> stupid.
>>>>
>>>> So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of stupidity?
>>>
>>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing,
>>
>> Agreed. Anyone that can't find the area of a triangle is stupid. People
>> can complain all they want about this kind of knowledge not being useful
>> to everyday life, but honestly, I want to see those people put forth their
>> own definition of what 'stupid' is if they don't think the word equates
>> with any sort of knowledge base. Is 'not stupid' based upon the ability
>> to drive a car, work a remote control, click on a web link?
>
>I think stupid is based on the ability to absorb and process new
>information. Forgetting factual details because you didn't need to use them
>in 20 years isn't the same thing. My mom didn't know where Oregon was
>located on a map, but she's incredibly facile when it comes to picking up
>languages.
>
>>> not knowing the exact year of the arrival of the name of the ship the
>>> pilgrims came in is another.
>>
>> Was that an actual question?
>
>Ugh, that was horribly worded. "not knowing the exact year of the
>arrival -or- the name of the ship the pilgrims came in is another". There
>was a specific question about the name of the ship, but I was just speaking
>generally about the kinds of questions they'd ask on the show.
>
>Arnold Kim
>
And they teach first graders how to spell "allegiance". (first grade
question: How many times does the letter "E" appear in the phrase,
"pledge of allegiance"? (the phrase being spoken, not written).
Yes, I watched the show last night, only because the show I usually
watch was a repeat.
Aside from whether adults are stupid and grade schoolers are smarter,
this show not only sends that message, but also the message that what
our children are learning in grade school will not only be useless in
later life, but not important enough to even remember.
My opinion of the show didn't change after watching it a second time.
Jeff Foxworthy has made a career out of being stupid, so it's a little
ironic that he now makes fun of people that can't answer questions
taught in grade school. In response to an incorrect answer last
night, he was quick to blurt out "That ain't right." Hey Jeff, I'll
take 2nd grade grammar for $10,000.
pe...@home.com
<bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>Arnold Kim <arno...@optonline.net> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>I think when things are properly taught, they will stick for a
>lifetime. That said, I can properly place all of the state west of
>the Mississippi. Forget east coast/New England. I don't live
>there, haven't visited there, and they're too small to have noticed
>them much.
>
>Now, give us a go at the Capitols!
In other words, you only retain what is important to you? So, if
someone were to claim that you are dumber than a grade schooler that
can locate all 50 states, would you agree?
pe...@home.com
wrote:
>In article <vaCFh.4$5b...@newsfe12.lga>,
> "Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
>> "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:es6otl$o8b$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>> >
>> > <pe...@home.com> wrote:
>> >> I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade being
>> >> stupid.
>> >
>> > So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of stupidity?
>>
>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing, not knowing the exact year of
>> the arrival of the name of the ship the pilgrims came in is another.
>>
>> Arnold Kim
>
>In fourteen hundred and ninety three
>Columbus sailed the deep blue sea
In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
pe...@home.com
>
>"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> "Arnold Kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing, not knowing the exact year
>>> of
>>> the arrival of the name of the ship the pilgrims came in is another.
>>
>> In fourteen hundred and ninety three
>> Columbus sailed the deep blue sea
>
>Silly boy, Columus wasn't a pilgrim. Besides, the way to remember it is:
> In fourteen hundred and ninety four
> Columbus sailed then came ashore
>
Well, at least we can all agree his name was Columbus.
pe...@home.com
wrote:
I'm happy to see the pissing contest is now over and we can all return
to what's really important. Television.
pe...@home.com
<bran...@kittylitternewsguy.com> wrote:
>Arnold Kim <arno...@optonline.net> wrote in rec.arts.tv:
>
>>
>> "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote in message
>> news:es6otl$o8b$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>
>>> <pe...@home.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't call not remembering what was taught in fifth grade
>>>> being stupid.
>>>
>>> So not remembering how to add and subtract is not a sign of
>>> stupidity?
>>
>> Not knowing how to do arithmetic is one thing, not knowing the
>> exact year of the arrival of the name of the ship the pilgrims
>> came in is another.
>>
>> Arnold Kim
>>
>>
>
>I don't think we covered that in fifth grade. But even so, how stupid
>is any adult to have gone through year after year after year of
>Thanksgivings and NOT managed to hear about the Mayflower at least 20
>times during the season?
The only thing I ever hear about at Thanksgiving is turkey. (and
whether I'm going to have to work the day after).
But I will admit, the UCLA graduate in the first episode that didn't
know what month Columbus Day is in WAS stupid. Anyone with a calendar
should have known the answer. Which brings me back to my original
criticism of the show. It is probable that the contestants, as well
as the students, are hand picked for their acting abilities, and not
for their desire to win a game show. Have any of the kids missed a
question yet? Have any of the adults not had a hard time answering
the first and second grade questions?
Obveeus
"donGoliano" <d...@goliano.net> wrote:
> Basically, Columbus got lost on his way to India.
And, to his dying day, thought he had found it.