It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
KSL-TV is to be commended.
(CBS News) NBC Utah affiliate KSL-TV has pulled the upcoming Ryan Murphy sitcom The New Normal from its fall lineup, calling the series as inappropriate on several dimensions.
The show, which follows a mother who serves as a surrogate for a Los Angeles-based gay couple, stars Justin Bartha, Ellen Barkin and Georgia King. Its set to debut on Sept. 11 on NBC at 9:30 p.m. ET. But Utahs KSL-TV doesnt want anything to do with it during family viewing-time.
From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line in one area or another, Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stations parent company Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. The dialogue might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit or the characterizations might seem offensive.
J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> KSL-TV doesnt want anything to do with it during family viewing-time.
> From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line in > one area or another, Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stations parent company > Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. The dialogue > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit or > the characterizations might seem offensive.
Even after centuries of effort, nobody has come up with a
watertight logical proof of the existence of God. In spite
of this, however, people often feel that they can logically
prove that God exists.
Unfortunately, reality is not decided by logic. Even if you
could rigorously prove that God exists, it wouldn't actually
get you very far. It could be that your logical rules do not
always preserve truth--that your system of logic is flawed.
It could be that your premises are wrong. It could even be
that reality is not logically consistent. In the end, the only
way to find out what is really going on is to observe it. Logic
can merely give you an idea where or how to look; and most
logical arguments about God don't even perform that task.
Logic is a useful tool for analyzing data and inferring what is
going on; but if logic and reality disagree, reality wins.
> It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v.
> line-up. KSL-TV is to be commended.
Were they one the stations that refused to air
the Star Trek episode that feature an interracial
kiss?
In article <5tdu6n.jlk.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
> KSL-TV is to be commended.
Sooo, people in Utah are too incredibly stupid to know how to change the channel or turn the tv off?
J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
>It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not >advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
>KSL-TV is to be commended.
Why haven't you chosen to live in Salt Lake City? It sounds
very decent. Wouldn't a decent city be in the best interest
of your children? Say, how many do you have?
In article <5tdu6n.jlk.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> wrote:
> It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
> KSL-TV is to be commended.
It depends on what they object to.
> ³From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line in > one area or another,² Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stationıs parent company > Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. ³The dialogue > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit or > the characterizations might seem offensive.²
Does this station air "2 Broke Girls"? I'll wager anything that the new show isn't as rude and crude as 2BG.
But it isn't centered on a gay couple, so I guess it's OK.
> In article <5tdu6n.jlk.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> > wrote:
> > It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
> > KSL-TV is to be commended.
> It depends on what they object to.
> > ³From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line in > > one area or another,² Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stationıs parent company > > Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. ³The dialogue > > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit or > > the characterizations might seem offensive.²
> Does this station air "2 Broke Girls"? I'll wager anything that the new > show isn't as rude and crude as 2BG.
> But it isn't centered on a gay couple, so I guess it's OK.
Ummm, 2 Broke Girls is CBS, The New Normal is NBC.
> >It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > >advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
> >KSL-TV is to be commended.
> Why haven't you chosen to live in Salt Lake City? It sounds
> very decent. Wouldn't a decent city be in the best interest
> of your children? Say, how many do you have?
"Those weren't real believers. They just claimed to be believers as some
sort of excuse."
This is rather like the No True Scotsman fallacy.
What makes a real believer? There are so many One True Religions it's
hard to tell. Look at Christianity: there are many competing groups, all
convinced that they are the only true Christians. Sometimes they even
fight and kill each other. How is an atheist supposed to decide who's a
real Christian and who isn't, when even the major Christian churches
like the Catholic Church and the Church of England can't decide amongst
themselves?
In the end, most atheists take a pragmatic view, and decide that anyone
who calls himself a Christian, and uses Christian belief or dogma to
justify his actions, should be considered a Christian. Maybe some of
those Christians are just perverting Christian teaching for their own
ends--but surely if the Bible can be so readily used to support
un-Christian acts it can't be much of a moral code? If the Bible is the
word of God, why couldn't he have made it less easy to misinterpret? And
how do you know that your beliefs aren't a perversion of what your God
intended?
If there is no single unambiguous interpretation of the Bible, then why
should an atheist take one interpretation over another just on your
say-so? Sorry, but if someone claims that he believes in Jesus and that
he murdered others because Jesus and the Bible told him to do so, we
must call him a Christian.
Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit or > > the characterizations might seem offensive.²
> Does this station air "2 Broke Girls"? I'll wager anything that the new > show isn't as rude and crude as 2BG.
> But it isn't centered on a gay couple, so I guess it's OK.
The average theologian (there are exceptions, of course) uses
"atheist" to mean a person who denies the existence of a God.
Most atheists would stongly dispute the adequacy of this definition.
Rather, they would hold that an atheist is a person without a belief
in God. The distiniction is small but important. Denying something
means that you have knowledge of what it is that you are being asked to
affirm, but that you have rejected that particular concept. To be
without a belief in God merely means that yhe term "god" has no
importance, or possibly no meaning, to you. Belief in God is not
a factor in your life. Surely this is quite different from denying
the existence of God. Atheism is not a belief as such. It is the
lack of belief.
When we examine the components of the word "atheism," we can see
this distinction more clearly. The word is made up of "a-" and
"-theism." Theism, we will all agree, is a belief in a God or gods.
The prefix "a-" can mean "not" (or "no") or "without." If it means
"not," then we have as an atheist someone who is not a theist
(i.e., someone who does not have a belief in a God or gods). If it
means "without," then an atheist is someone without theism, or
without a belief in God.
> In article <barmar-7FE9D8.23355627082...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> > In article <5tdu6n.jlk.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> > > wrote:
> > > It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > > > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
> > > KSL-TV is to be commended.
> > It depends on what they object to.
> > > ³From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line in > > > one area or another,² Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stationıs parent company > > > Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. ³The dialogue > > > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit or > > > the characterizations might seem offensive.²
> > Does this station air "2 Broke Girls"? I'll wager anything that the new > > show isn't as rude and crude as 2BG.
> > But it isn't centered on a gay couple, so I guess it's OK.
> Ummm, 2 Broke Girls is CBS, The New Normal is NBC.
I saw CBS mentioned at the beginning of the article, but didn't notice it was in the dateline. Oops.
> So, yes, KLS doesn't show 2 Broke Girls.
OK, then substitute "Are You There, Chelsea?". It's even cruder than 2BG.
> > > > It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > > > > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
> > > > KSL-TV is to be commended.
> > > It depends on what they object to.
> > > > ³From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line > > > > in > > > > one area or another,² Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stationıs parent company > > > > Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. ³The dialogue > > > > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit or > > > > the characterizations might seem offensive.²
> > > Does this station air "2 Broke Girls"? I'll wager anything that the new > > > show isn't as rude and crude as 2BG.
> > > But it isn't centered on a gay couple, so I guess it's OK.
> > Ummm, 2 Broke Girls is CBS, The New Normal is NBC.
> I saw CBS mentioned at the beginning of the article, but didn't notice > it was in the dateline. Oops.
The point was valid.
> > So, yes, KLS doesn't show 2 Broke Girls.
> OK, then substitute "Are You There, Chelsea?". It's even cruder than 2BG.
That works. Definitely. I never watched Chelsea's show; I watch too much tv as it is so I have to be really strict about what new shows I watch. Connecting back to "2 Broke Girls" (which I didn't watch and kinda wish I had), I definitely watched "Whitney"; I'm a huge Whitney Cummings fan.
> > > > > It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > > > > > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. > > > > > line-up.
> > > > > KSL-TV is to be commended.
> > > > It depends on what they object to.
> > > > > ³From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line > > > > > in > > > > > one area or another,² Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stationıs parent > > > > > company > > > > > Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. ³The dialogue > > > > > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit > > > > > or > > > > > the characterizations might seem offensive.²
> > > > Does this station air "2 Broke Girls"? I'll wager anything that the new > > > > show isn't as rude and crude as 2BG.
> > > > But it isn't centered on a gay couple, so I guess it's OK.
> > > Ummm, 2 Broke Girls is CBS, The New Normal is NBC.
> > I saw CBS mentioned at the beginning of the article, but didn't notice > > it was in the dateline. Oops.
> The point was valid.
I know. I was admitting my mistake, and explaining what caused it. I looked at the article to see what network they were talking about, saw "CBS", but didn't look carefully enough to see that it was just part of "(from CBS News)".
In article <slrnk3oi3j.r31.dev.n...@usenet.home.b0h0.com>,
Mike Lovell <dev.n...@b0h0.com> wrote:
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> On 2012-08-28, Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
> > [...] I definitely watched "Whitney"; I'm a huge Whitney Cummings fan.
> You lost a lot of my respect with that! :-p
So sorry.
I think she's hilarious. But I can see where she appeals to a niche you're not part of. But my comedy faves run a large gamut so I'm sure we have many in common.
>> > > > > It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not >> > > > > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. >> > > > > line-up.
>> > > > > KSL-TV is to be commended.
>> > > > It depends on what they object to.
>> > > > > ³From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line >> > > > > in >> > > > > one area or another,² Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stationıs parent >> > > > > company >> > > > > Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. ³The dialogue >> > > > > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit >> > > > > or >> > > > > the characterizations might seem offensive.²
>> > > > Does this station air "2 Broke Girls"? I'll wager anything that the new >> > > > show isn't as rude and crude as 2BG.
>> > > > But it isn't centered on a gay couple, so I guess it's OK.
>> > > Ummm, 2 Broke Girls is CBS, The New Normal is NBC.
>> > I saw CBS mentioned at the beginning of the article, but didn't notice >> > it was in the dateline. Oops.
>> The point was valid.
>I know. I was admitting my mistake, and explaining what caused it. I >looked at the article to see what network they were talking about, saw >"CBS", but didn't look carefully enough to see that it was just part of >"(from CBS News)".
Kudos to the good folks of Utah
for shutting down Queer TV.
Every poll shows that America
despises queers more than atheists.
Yet WHO are the folks who, for
decades, have pushed pollution?
Gee...I just cannot guess...
In article <5tdu6n.jlk.1...@news.alt.net>, jdyou...@ymail.com wrote:
>It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not >advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
>KSL-TV is to be commended.
Considering how crappy the show looks, I'd pre-empt it with Star Trek reruns.
-- "Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the iceberg a second time."
> >> > > > > It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not > >> > > > > advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. > >> > > > > line-up.
> >> > > > > KSL-TV is to be commended.
> >> > > > It depends on what they object to.
> >> > > > > ³From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the > >> > > > > line > >> > > > > in > >> > > > > one area or another,² Jeff Simpson, CEO of the stationıs parent > >> > > > > company > >> > > > > Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune. ³The > >> > > > > dialogue > >> > > > > might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too > >> > > > > explicit > >> > > > > or > >> > > > > the characterizations might seem offensive.²
> >> > > > Does this station air "2 Broke Girls"? I'll wager anything that the > >> > > > new > >> > > > show isn't as rude and crude as 2BG.
> >> > > > But it isn't centered on a gay couple, so I guess it's OK.
> >> > > Ummm, 2 Broke Girls is CBS, The New Normal is NBC.
> >> > I saw CBS mentioned at the beginning of the article, but didn't notice > >> > it was in the dateline. Oops.
> >> The point was valid.
> >I know. I was admitting my mistake, and explaining what caused it. I > >looked at the article to see what network they were talking about, saw > >"CBS", but didn't look carefully enough to see that it was just part of > >"(from CBS News)".
> That'll teach you to admit error on Usenet.
I was acknowledging his error and his admitting of it. Something we don't see enough of here, what with our trolly idiots.
In article <277d8675-a953-4497-88bb-8e331b85a...@a11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
"Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Aug 28, 4:27 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> > Kudos to the good folks of Utah
> > for shutting down Queer TV.
> Figures you'd be pro-censorship as well, fascist wannabe.
As much as I dislike why the station is doing this, it's not censorship. Censorship is when an authority imposes restrictions, but in this case the station is deciding for themselves what they want to show. That's their right.
Jeanne Douglas <hlwd...@NOSPAMpacbell.net> wrote:
>In article <5tdu6n.jlk.1...@news.alt.net>, J <jdyou...@ymail.com> >> It's about time that a television station allowed decency, not >> advertising dollars, dictate what is appropriate for it's t.v. line-up.
>> KSL-TV is to be commended.
>Sooo, people in Utah are too incredibly stupid to know how to change the >channel or turn the tv off?
Yes, too stupid and too filled with fear and hatred.
---
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> In article
> <277d8675-a953-4497-88bb-8e331b85a...@a11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> "Syd M." <pauldavidwri...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Aug 28, 4:27 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:
> > > Kudos to the good folks of Utah
> > > for shutting down Queer TV.
> > Figures you'd be pro-censorship as well, fascist wannabe.
> As much as I dislike why the station is doing this, it's not censorship.
> Censorship is when an authority imposes restrictions, but in this case
> the station is deciding for themselves what they want to show. That's
> their right.
It's not that I meant. I meant that he and IBen would approve of a
body that operated as you described.
