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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 1:56 am
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 06:56:07 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 1:56 am
Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)

It's Peter. He stuck it in his own brain to learn how to use it. He's
reverse engineered plenty of tech on this show before. I'm assuming this
won't be an exception, although if it is, it'll be out of character.

Yeah. He'll "invent" it.


 
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Jim G.  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 3:21 pm
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Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:20:51 -0600
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Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)
anim8rFSK sent the following on Sat, 10 Nov 2012 22:06:14 -0700:

I'm usually beside myself.

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William December Starr  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 4:51 pm
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From: wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date: 12 Nov 2012 16:51:52 -0500
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Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)
In article <k7paqh$bk...@dont-email.me>,
David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:

>>>> That's a paradox?

>>> The technology has no point of origin.

>> Yeah, but: is that a problem?

> It makes it a causeless effect.  Strictly speaking that isn't a
> paradox.  A paradox is when something is self-contradicting.  A
> thing that happens for no reason isn't self-contradicting, but it
> does violate the widespread expectation that every effect shall
> have a cause.

Whatever the terminology, is it a problem?

-- wds


 
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Mason Barge  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 6:07 pm
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From: Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:07:26 -0500
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Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 14:20:51 -0600, Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
wrote:

If I were beside myself, I'd be a black dachshund half the time.

 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 6:52 pm
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2012 23:52:02 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 6:52 pm
Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)
William December Starr <wdst...@panix.com> wrote:

>David Johnston <Da...@block.net> said:
>>>>>That's a paradox?
>>>>The technology has no point of origin.
>>>Yeah, but: is that a problem?
>>It makes it a causeless effect.  Strictly speaking that isn't a
>>paradox.  A paradox is when something is self-contradicting.  A
>>thing that happens for no reason isn't self-contradicting, but it
>>does violate the widespread expectation that every effect shall
>>have a cause.
>Whatever the terminology, is it a problem?

As I raised the issue, what do you think? If you don't think it
hurts telling the story, that's fine.

 
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William December Starr  
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 More options Nov 12 2012, 11:33 pm
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From: wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr)
Date: 12 Nov 2012 23:33:13 -0500
Local: Mon, Nov 12 2012 11:33 pm
Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)
In article <k7s232$3l...@news.albasani.net>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> said:

> William December Starr <wdst...@panix.com> wrote:

>> Whatever the terminology, is it a problem?

> As I raised the issue, what do you think? If you don't think it
> hurts telling the story, that's fine.

I figure that if an audience accepts time travel in a story at all,
they're by implication accepting all that it, er, implies, including
the possibilities of paradoxes and causality violation.  Barring
storytelling that explicitly says "No, that can't happen," anyway.

-- wds


 
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Adam H. Kerman  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 1:37 am
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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 06:37:57 +0000 (UTC)
Local: Tues, Nov 13 2012 1:37 am
Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)
William December Starr <wdst...@panix.com> wrote:

>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> said:
>>William December Starr <wdst...@panix.com> wrote:
>>>Whatever the terminology, is it a problem?
>>As I raised the issue, what do you think? If you don't think it
>>hurts telling the story, that's fine.
>I figure that if an audience accepts time travel in a story at all,
>they're by implication accepting all that it, er, implies, including
>the possibilities of paradoxes and causality violation.  Barring
>storytelling that explicitly says "No, that can't happen," anyway.

Well, we're all well passed "that can't happen" if we watched the pilot.

 
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Jim G.  
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 3:28 pm
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From: Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:28:15 -0600
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Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)
Mason Barge sent the following on Mon, 12 Nov 2012 18:07:26 -0500:

Stubby Dobermans are pretty cool. :)

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"I'm really ready for this day to be over." -- Duke Crocker, HAVEN


 
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 More options Nov 13 2012, 5:14 pm
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From: Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:14:43 -0500
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Subject: Re: Fringe is building to something good (spoilers)
On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 14:28:15 -0600, Jim G. <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid>
wrote:

He's actually solid black, which is quite rare.  No tan points.

Which reminds me, a propos of absolutely nothing.  I saw a huge Doberman
while walking a few weeks ago, really one of the most beautiful dogs I've
ever seen.  I actually had trouble telling the breed because it was so big
and the ears had not been cut.

And . . . it was very friendly. Magnificent creature.


 
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