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Obveeus

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Jun 11, 2013, 6:55:05 AM6/11/13
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I watched:

DEFIANCE: A strong episode with an A-plot involving a genetically modified
alien designed to carry out undercover assassinations. His undercover look
opens up possible future plotlines as well. Meanwhile, in the B plot, Jaime
Murray spends lots of time with little clothing and the town
prostitute/madam seems to be falling in love with her. I did wonder how a
huge ship crashed without attracting a lot of scavengers, though...and I
wondered how everyone had a sleepover at the American Indian's house without
either of his kids showing up on screen.

TEEN WOLF: Our heroes all bumble around trying to uncover lost memories (by
freezing/drowning techniques), decipher bruises, and search the internet.
In the end, we find out that there is magic moonlight scattering rock that
prevents wolf transformations...and all that pent up energy is not a good
thing. Sadly, the female wolf from the pack may be dead, but a new female
(Derrick's sister) shows up to replace her. Meanwhile, Ian's favorite
actress screams at the end. The funniest part of the episode was the
lacrosse coach teaching a business class based upon having the kids practice
playing 'quarters'.

BORGEN: episode #4 via http://www.linktv.org/borgen A very topical episode
even though it aired originally several years ago. In this episode, the
government brings up threats of 'possession of stolen property' charges
against members of the press because they published leaked
government/military secrets. This show, is yet another foreign offering
that reflects that the rest of the world views the USA very differently than
US citizens think the world views them.

What did you watch?


Obveeus

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Jun 11, 2013, 7:50:25 AM6/11/13
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"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>I watched:
>
> DEFIANCE: A strong episode with an A-plot involving a genetically
> modified TEEN WOLF: Our heroes all bumble around trying to uncover lost
> memories (by BORGEN: episode #4 via http://www.linktv.org/borgen A very
> topical episode


Also...

PRAMFACE: The season #2 finale via Hulu.com in which we find out that
drinking jello shots can lead to very bad results.


anim8rFSK

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Jun 11, 2013, 9:17:35 AM6/11/13
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In article <kp6vdh$b3m$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> What did you watch?

THE GLADES
Okay, this was *way* better than the season premiere. Nancy Nurse had
little to do (although what she did was annoying as usual). Jim wasn't
nearly as annoying as usual, and the people he accused were actually
reasonable suspects. It was amusing that he considers BBQing more
important than any other endeavor, and kept telling people he wanted to
question to go ahead and do what they were doing, as long as they were
cooking. Intern needs to stick a BBQ fork in his idiot brother, and,
Kobe beef tips? Really? I *loved* Jim torturing the idiot Vegan
suspect by eating ribs in front of her, and boy howdy did she have it
coming. The only big problem is, there's no way the killer could have
done the killing, at least not alone.

WAREHOUSE THE THIRTEENTH THE SERIES
I feel asleep halfway through. :\ What I did see was stupid. Claudia
is having her 21st birthday, and Arti wants to throw her a party, and
she's protesting because she has tickets to a midnight concert. How can
these possibly be mutually exclusive?

--
Dano's just a troll.

Lord Vader III

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Jun 11, 2013, 10:04:17 AM6/11/13
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On 6/11/2013 8:17 AM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <kp6vdh$b3m$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> WAREHOUSE THE THIRTEENTH THE SERIES
> I feel asleep halfway through. :\ What I did see was stupid. Claudia
> is having her 21st birthday, and Arti wants to throw her a party, and

I don't know why but I thought she was older than that (she's 22 IRL).
I probably would have put her in her mid to upper 20s.

LVIII


Ian J. Ball

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Jun 11, 2013, 10:06:28 AM6/11/13
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In article <kp6vdh$b3m$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> What did you watch?

I feel like I watched a bunch of crap yesterday...: :(

Warehouse 13 (recorded) - "Instinct". It's a measure of how crappy the
stuff I watched yesterday was when I tell you this was the best thing I
watched. :/
In this one, we revisit Jaime Murray to discover she's dropped out of
the warehouse game to be a CSI (I kid you not - that was the
storyline!). Anyway, she's hooked up with a widower (Tuc Watkins,
playing it "straight" (yeah, there's a double meaning there...) for
once) and his 'tween' daughter. Sure enough, artifact wackiness ensues,
and it's not long before Myka is dragging Murray's H.G. back into
'warehouse business', which in turn draws in the widower and daughter
too.
It's a measure of the general low-level of wretchedness of "Warehouse
13" that this actually managed to make Tuc Watkins boring (how do you do
that?!!). Oh, "Desperate Housewives'" Ricardo Chavira and perennial
'heavy' Todd Stashwick also turn up - by the rule of "Conservation of
Characters", I'll leave it to you to figure out who were the "bad guys"
of this episode!... ;)
I actually vastly preferred the 'B' storyline in this one, in which
the usual McGuffin is happening in the warehouse, forcing Artie, Jinx,
Kelly Hu's Abigail and Claudia (who's hostile to the former) to work
together.

Teen Wolf (recorded) - "Tattoo", season #3 premiere. Egads! This was a
massive step down from even season #2 (which I didn't even think was
"all that"). And Holland Roden looks weird now, in a way that I can't
put my finger on...
Anyway, I've already queued up to record episode #3.2 of this - but I
am absolutely not expecting to watch any more of this after that. This
show just isn't very good.

Mistresses (recorded) - Pilot - series premiere. Gosh, how novel! - a
show in which Alyssa Milano *doesn't* play the biggest *whore* on the
show!! (Though Milano does eventually bang Jason George (who's been
bangin' hot chyx on TV ever since "Sunset Beach"!!...).) Sidenote:
Amusingly, these days, Milano is now build like a battletank (see also:
Melissa Joan Hart...).
In this one, the biggest whore is actually the character of Milano's
sister. But she's a big dirty whore - I think the show wants us to
instead think she's "free-spirited" and "liberated", but she just comes
off like an obnoxious, self-righteous, dirty whore. Which is too bad -
the actress playing her, Jes Macallan, I actually like a fair bit (let's
hope she gets another, better series from this...) - but the character
is wretched.
Anyway, on this one, I would venture to say the only half-way
engaging storyline involves "Lost's" Yunjin Kim as a therapist who ends
up bangin' her patient (John Schneider, still just relieved that he
escaped the putrid mess known as "Secret Life..."!!) who dies of cancer
- wackiness then ensues as she tries to keep that a secret from
Schneider's widow (Penelope Ann Miller!!) and son.
The fourth member of this mix is Rochelle Aytes, who seems to exist
purely as "eye candy" on this show, as she has by far the least
interesting storyline.
Unfortunately, I can't say this show works even on the level of
"(dirty) guilty pleasure" - I'll watch a few more of this one, just to
see if it gets better. But already, Jes Macallan's character is pushing
me towards the door, and it's not like the other storylines are engaging
enough to counteract that.

Recorded for later (lots!): Nicky Deuce (a recent NICK movie, with Noah
Munck (whom I don't care about) and Cristine Prosperi from "Degrassi",
which I decided to grab off TeenNICK before it disappears for good...),
Defiance, Warehouse 13, Mistresses, and Longmire.

--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!

Jim T.

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Jun 11, 2013, 12:26:22 PM6/11/13
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:55:05 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>I watched:
>
>DEFIANCE: A strong episode with an A-plot involving a genetically modified
>alien designed to carry out undercover assassinations. His undercover look
>opens up possible future plotlines as well.

This would have been an obvious place to flesh out some of the back
story, by telling the astronaut on screen what has happened the last
30 years. I found it a little curious and amusing they showed none of
that.

Dano

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Jun 11, 2013, 1:30:54 PM6/11/13
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"Jim T." wrote in message
news:kgjer89ka1436f86q...@4ax.com...
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They DID show some of it. The part that the Indogenes played in the war was
what this episode was all about. Obviously the central characters aren't
completely clear about everything that has happened in the recent past
either. Kind of a major point I would say you may have missed. That was
the reason for Nolan threateningly demanding answers of the doctor at the
end...when they were intruded upon by the reality of a plague hitting their
little corner of the world. They've all been a bit busy trying to survive
and coexist as I see it.

Bottom line...it's only an hour show. There's a lot to tell.

Obveeus

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Jun 11, 2013, 1:40:41 PM6/11/13
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"Dano" <janea...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Jim T." wrote in message
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:55:05 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>I watched:
>>
>>DEFIANCE: A strong episode with an A-plot involving a genetically
>>modified
>>alien designed to carry out undercover assassinations. His undercover
>>look
>>opens up possible future plotlines as well.
>
> This would have been an obvious place to flesh out some of the back
> story, by telling the astronaut on screen what has happened the last
> 30 years. I found it a little curious and amusing they showed none of
> that.
>
> =======================================
>
> They DID show some of it. The part that the Indogenes played in the war
> was what this episode was all about. Obviously the central characters
> aren't completely clear about everything that has happened in the recent
> past either. Kind of a major point I would say you may have missed.

Agreed. The show is revealing backstory as needed and I really don;t
understand all the complaints from viewers feeling that they don't have some
backstory that they 'need'.

> That was the reason for Nolan threateningly demanding answers of the
> doctor at the end...when they were intruded upon by the reality of a
> plague hitting their little corner of the world. They've all been a bit
> busy trying to survive and coexist as I see it.

I wondered if the plague was brought by the government guy who set aside his
corndog in the alley...or if he was just warry of eating the food because he
knows that plague is a problem in general.

Side note: I was a bit annoyed by the videogame promo which featured the
plague...airing mid show and revealing the upcoming plot point.
Side note2: I enjoyed the Dodge Charger integrated DEFIANCE commercial
(hey, look, the entire backstory revealed) much more than the previous
integration attempt by AXE Body Spray.


Ian J. Ball

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Jun 11, 2013, 2:18:31 PM6/11/13
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On Jun 11, 9:26 am, Jim T. <x...@y.z> wrote:
Huh. Maybe it's because the show is incredibly crappily written?! ;p


Ian (And I know this, because, the writing satisfies Obv, and pretty
much no one else...)

David Johnston

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Jun 11, 2013, 2:48:08 PM6/11/13
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On 6/11/2013 11:30 AM, Dano wrote:
> "Jim T." wrote in message
> news:kgjer89ka1436f86q...@4ax.com...
>
> On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:55:05 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> I watched:
>>
>> DEFIANCE: A strong episode with an A-plot involving a genetically
>> modified
>> alien designed to carry out undercover assassinations. His undercover
>> look
>> opens up possible future plotlines as well.
>
> This would have been an obvious place to flesh out some of the back
> story, by telling the astronaut on screen what has happened the last
> 30 years. I found it a little curious and amusing they showed none of
> that.
>
> =======================================
>
> They DID show some of it.

When he says, "didn't show any" he means "didn't show pretty much all".

Dano

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Jun 11, 2013, 2:50:00 PM6/11/13
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"David Johnston" wrote in message news:kp7r48$bj2$1...@dont-email.me...
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Guess he doesn't much care for Game of Thrones then.

Ian J. Ball

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Jun 11, 2013, 3:12:19 PM6/11/13
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On Jun 11, 11:48 am, David Johnston <Da...@block.net> wrote:
> On 6/11/2013 11:30 AM, Dano wrote:
> > "Jim T."  wrote in message
> >news:kgjer89ka1436f86q...@4ax.com...
>
> > > On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:55:05 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >> I watched:
>
> > >> DEFIANCE: ...
>
> > > This would have been an obvious place to flesh out some of the back
> > > story, by telling the astronaut on screen what has happened the last
> > > 30 years. I found it a little curious and amusing they showed none of
> > > that.
>
> > They DID show some of it.
>
> When he says, "didn't show any" he means "didn't show pretty much all".

No, you're putting words in his mouth.

Worse, I think you're confusing Jim and me which means you're actually
trying to put words in *my* mouth.

Just quit it.

Ubiquitous

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Jun 11, 2013, 5:03:32 PM6/11/13
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In article <kp6vdh$b3m$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com wrote:

>What did you watch?

ADVENTURE TIME!:
Jake has to pull one last heist with his gang to rescue Jake Jr; Finn
and Jake decided to see who can refrain from speaking the longest.

REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY:
"Dirty Dancing in Mexico". Tamra's nasty bachelorette party in Mexicon
continues with some dirty Mexican strippers slapping the junk in the
ladies' faces. Apparently, while in America, strippers dress up like
cops, in Mexico, they dress up like matadors. Oh yeah, Tamra "confided"
to Gretchen that she first tried to kill herself when she was 12 years
old, not 21, and that she's a crappy human because her father, too.

--
"We're gonna punish our enemies and we're gonna reward our friends"
-- Barack "Dear Ruler" Obama

Joe Boudreau

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Jun 11, 2013, 10:17:20 AM6/11/13
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In article <kp8324$hfi$4...@dont-email.me>, web...@polaris.net wrote:

>REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY:
>"Dirty Dancing in Mexico". Tamra's nasty bachelorette party in Mexicon
>continues with some dirty Mexican strippers slapping the junk in the
>ladies' faces. Apparently, while in America, strippers dress up like
>cops, in Mexico, they dress up like matadors. Oh yeah, Tamra "confided"
>to Gretchen that she first tried to kill herself when she was 12 years
>old, not 21, and that she's a crappy human because her father, too.

Finally! An episode that had me laughing my ass off the majority of the
time. Mostly because Gretchen was trying so hard and just utterly
failng. In every sense. And I can just watch Vicki bug the shit out of
Gretch all day.

Major Lydia points for going up against the Debbie Downers. "No bueno on
bachelorette weekend" for sure! Loved seeing Heather and Gretchen's
botoxed faces tighten when the ladies started high-fiving about the
night before. And Heather....always feeling the need to scold. Must be
quite tiresome and emasculating for Terry to be around that all the time
back at home. The "mean mommy" look can't be sexy!

Heather's catch phrase: "Honestly? Not okay." Ugh. You know what's not
okay? Gretchen using her tears to manipulate Tamra when her tantrums
don't get her anywhere. Probably works with Slade. Loved when the camera
panned over to the shot of the tour guy in the limo, all like, "I hope
they tip me for this shit." Classic.

Total Bethenny move by Gretchen with the gift bags (aka hawking your
merchandise as a peace offering). Can't this cast come up with their own
original ideas?

Yes, the whole Vicki trickling on the bed was nasty, but at least she
goes offscript with her candor! And no matter how many times Gretchen
says Vicki's a slut, there will always be images floating around the
internet of her on the toilet with her vibrator, licking Jay
Whats-his-face while her fiance is dying, for all to see in her
hypocritical glory (since "hypocrite" is her favorite word...or maybe
the only word she can say without her teeth getting in the way).
Gretchen's living in one big glass house...

Wretched and Tamrat bonding on the beach...gimme a break with the
hysterics and overacting! Tamra...all you DO is make excuses for your
nastiness! Enough with your pathetic attempt at all these childhood sob
stories. You're 45! You're just trying to dig up issues as some sort of
justification for why you treat people like shit. Just like Gretchen,
when intimidating people doesn't go your way, you try to garner
sympathy. I guess you two were made for each other.

Tamra saying she's drawn to "people like Vicki." Lol what a bitch! After
a nice night with her old friend, she turns around and throws her under
the bus. Guess she's just going to keep flip flopping depending on who's
around to kiss her ass and buy into her fake emotional trauma. (I can
just hear Taylor from BH telling her "You've got nothing on me, bitch!)

BTW...Vicki looked like she was wearing a bib at that bachelorette
party! Not a good look. And I was happy to see slurry drunk, naked
wasted, my-teeth-are-constantly-in-the-way-of-my-spweech Gretchen made a
return! I was just waiting for her to say "and a honk honk! and a quack
quack!" or whatever it was she did in the naked wasted episode when she
was lifting up her dress. LOL.



BUFFEDX

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Jun 11, 2013, 8:14:41 PM6/11/13
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In article <kp8324$hfi$4...@dont-email.me>, web...@polaris.net wrote:
>In article <kp6vdh$b3m$1...@dont-email.me>, Obv...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>What did you watch?
>
>ADVENTURE TIME!:
>Jake has to pull one last heist with his gang to rescue Jake Jr; Finn
>and Jake decided to see who can refrain from speaking the longest.
>
>REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY:
>"Dirty Dancing in Mexico". Tamra's nasty bachelorette party in Mexicon
>continues with some dirty Mexican strippers slapping the junk in the
>ladies' faces. Apparently, while in America, strippers dress up like
>cops, in Mexico, they dress up like matadors. Oh yeah, Tamra "confided"
>to Gretchen that she first tried to kill herself when she was 12 years
>old, not 21, and that she's a crappy human because her father, too.

I didn't see last night's show with the strippers but I just saw one
still photo over at Bravo. It shows Gretchen riding one male stripper as
he is bent over, while a second one is riding her backside with his
pants halfway down. So Gretchen is sandwiched between them. She then has
her wide open-mouthed howling donkey hee-haw havin' a good old time face
on.

As the cliche' goes, ...I am no prude...but what is the matter with
these women? Emphasis: Women. Adults. I find this behavior vile. This is
not a good time to me. It is degrading to women. As if we get
titillation and super thrills and chills from these mock sex acts. In
reality, it only reduces the women that are there playing along, to sex
toys themselves, and makes them as equally trashy and sleezy as the male
strippers they think they are better than. And as if we have never seen
a penis at 30 something years old. Kudos to Lydia for her sentiment
saying just that and sitting this "good time" out.

Yes, and add that disgusting still photo of Gretchen to her
internet-is-forever photographic history of bad behvaior.



Vic C

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Jun 11, 2013, 8:21:13 PM6/11/13
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In article <kp8324$hfi$4...@dont-email.me>, web...@polaris.net wrote:

>REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY:
>"Dirty Dancing in Mexico". Tamra's nasty bachelorette party in Mexicon
>continues with some dirty Mexican strippers slapping the junk in the
>ladies' faces. Apparently, while in America, strippers dress up like
>cops, in Mexico, they dress up like matadors. Oh yeah, Tamra "confided"
>to Gretchen that she first tried to kill herself when she was 12 years
>old, not 21, and that she's a crappy human because her father, too.

Regarding Jim "shutting down" talk of the OC women:

Are you a fucking idiot? Bravo pays Alexis a couple of hundred thousand
dollars a year to talk about these wretched women, moron. My God and
Jeebus, suffer through fifteen minutes of it before Bravo pays for your
dinner.



Regarding the post-Andele's return to the hotel drama:

Holy passive-aggressive, Batshit! Everyone in the Western Hemisphere
knew where the gals were, ("I'm going to Andele's!" "Hey, this
restaurant sucks, we should go to Andele's!" "Andele's, Andele's,
Andele's!") And lest we forget, the three of them walked up the street
to go there. This is like being pissed at a friend for leaving you at
the Lincoln Memorial while you went down to the Reflecting Pool, after
said friend mentioned four gazillion times that he or she was going to
the Reflecting Pool...at the fucking steps of the Lincoln Memorial.



I love Heather in moments like these, however. She's a total Alpha Dog
and shuts all the bullshit down quickly and directly. Gretchen talking
smack about Vicki? Shut it down. The drunk girls coming in all
fake-apologetic? Shut it down. Good for her, frankly. Bad for her for
playing along with the storyline that they didn't know where they were
("Andele's! Andele's Andele's!") l'd like her even more if she would
have said that she was way too classy and adult to go get trashed on the
beach at her age and level of refinement. (I'd never like to go out and
party with her, however.)



I'd buy Gretchen's story of betrayal even more if we all didn't know
that (a) this was the 'cheap' Bravo-paid vacation this season and (b) if
we all didn't know that the Gretchen and Tamra friendship is totally
fake, fake, fake, fake, fake.



Vicki leaking on Tamra's bed was totally a dog marking her territory.
Props to you, nutbag, for owning it, but no. We all do not leak
sometimes. (And Heather's reaction later to hearing about the pee-on-bed
moment was 400 Shades of Fucking Awesome.)



Regarding the Day of Culture in Mexico:

Again, I'm totally with Heather here. Lydia (while right: clearly,
Andele's was the highlight of this trip,) was quite catty in her remark,
and Heather was quite quick and concise with her clear, logical
response. What I like about her is that once she puts a period on the
sentence, it's done (I suspect this is one of the reasons she can't
stand fighting with Alexis, as she just adds clauses and commas after
Heather has ended the statement.)



Oh, Gretchen. It pains me to say this, but you're clearly in the right
here. But Vicki driving you nuts is one of the joys of this television
show. Or, to put this another way, I'd give Vicki a raise just to drive
your ass nuts each and every week.



Regarding the Day on the Beach:

Wow, Gretchen. What a fucking amazing body on you! Lydia kind of faded
into the background, but I liked Heather's ensemble, as well. Vicki? Oy.
And Tamra, you might be three-to-five years past bikinis--not that you
don't have a good body, but you've reached the one-piece phase of life.



I laughed out loud at Tamra's bullshit "emotional" moment on the beach.
First, that shopping for sex toys with Gretchen is somehow more "deep"
than going through a divorce with Vicki. Second, just the phrase "I've
never told this to anyone before, and not any of those women up there."
Yeah, not told to anyone except the eight people at the convention
keynote two episodes ago, and all of the tens of twenties watching this
episode presently. I do love when they pretend that this is an intimate,
private moment, as if all of them aren't living out the Warren Beatty
statement to Madonna in Truth or Dare...that "nothing is worth doing if
it's not on camera."



And Jesus, Vicki! How jealous can you be of Gretchen? Of Gretchen, for
fuck's sake! My God, woman...let it go. Yes, it sucks that your real,
pre-HW friendship with Tamra was hijacked for a season or two by this
fake, for television friendship with Gretchen, but move on! (Also, gotta
love Heather's "yes, yes you are" response to the "is Vicki competitive
with Gretchen over Tamra" query. Again, direct, to the point, and
perioded sentence. Nobody asked to her to elaborate because Heather be
done, yo.)



Regarding The Stripper Party:

OK, that shit was a hoot. I enjoyed every moment of that train wreck,
from Heather's sly and sexy gifts to the ear-fucking. Totally wished I
were there. Looked like a trashy good time, all around. Also, note how
fun it was to watch Vicki and Gretchen just be drunk and have fun. Take
note, bitches.



So guys, between Vicki's "leaking" on the bed and Teresa's "period blood
in the red wine curse" story on RHONJ...which is more gross? I lean
towards Vicki's peeing as it actually happened.




Alison Fraser

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Jun 11, 2013, 8:28:57 PM6/11/13
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In article <kp8324$hfi$4...@dont-email.me>, web...@polaris.net wrote:

>REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ORANGE COUNTY:
>"Dirty Dancing in Mexico". Tamra's nasty bachelorette party in Mexicon
>continues with some dirty Mexican strippers slapping the junk in the
>ladies' faces. Apparently, while in America, strippers dress up like
>cops, in Mexico, they dress up like matadors. Oh yeah, Tamra "confided"
>to Gretchen that she first tried to kill herself when she was 12 years
>old, not 21, and that she's a crappy human because her father, too.

That was a somewhat satisfying episode.

Still not buying Tamra BS. Her confession on the beach with Gretchen was
one of the worst staged events in the history of reality tv.

I love that both Tamra and Gretchen had the good sense to have their
sunglasses on so that we wouldn't see their waterless eyes as they dry
"cried" via face contortion on tv. I LOL'ed when Gretchen put her
sunglasses on in that tacky obscene limo right before "bursting into
tears." Tamra is such a sleaze telling Gretchen that Vicki said her plan
worked. Right there left me with no doubt that she loves people fighting
over her. It is like watching flies fight over a sun dried turd. I love
that Gretchen is getting her comeuppance but Tamra needs one just as
much if not more.

Every time I see Gretchen, I always think how exhausting it must be to
always be so damn overly made up at every fucking possible opportunity.
She looks terrible. Her foundation must be cremation no 5. (tm funky
dineva). I will give her one thing - her face and hair are beat all to
be damned but that girl was meant to wear bikinis. She has the perfect
little beach body - that suit was beyond tacky though. I don't know if
she has implants but if she does, kudoz to her for getting ones that
were proportionate with her frame and don't look ridiculous and like
bowling ball halves (looking at you Alexis).

I liked Vicki this episode solely because old school Vicki was in the
house. From saying Gretchen should see her as a mentor to claiming not
to have any insecurities to being seethingly jealous of Gretchen and
Tamra's BFF relationship. Classic! I loved that Vicki owned peeing on
the bed. And Vicki hypocritical is the correct word, but to quote Teresa
from RHONJ - "Is bitch better?"

Those stippers were str8 up nasty and had no stripping skills. They just
whip out their peekers and dry rub against every part of their audience,
including ears, which WTF!!! I bet they also would have had sex if paid.
Gross. Lydia was right to go to bed.

One thing I will disagree on is that even though Gretchen and Heather
pretty much knew where the threesome went when they got ditched they had
no obligation to go out looking for them. Vicki, Gretchen and Lydia were
str8 up rude for not telling or asking them, but I am having trouble
mustering up any sympathy.


Jim G.

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Jun 13, 2013, 11:46:48 AM6/13/13
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Obveeus sent the following on 6/11/2013 5:55 AM:
> What did you watch?

WAREHOUSE 13 (SYFY, 9 PM) / Runaway
[When a volcanic event at an Ark. State Prison allows two inmates to
escape, Pete, Myka and Steve must partner with a U.S. Marshal to track
down the fugitives.]

The stupid, it burns. Molten lava that floats cars like boats on a river
instead of melting them and/or making them go BOOM! Molten lava that
instantly cools so that a guy who falls to a spot that was molten lava
.001 seconds ago doesn't even get a minor burn. Lots of gheyness between
Steve and his ex, with both apparently having wanted to be the woman in
the relationship. And things weren't much better back at the warehouse,
where wackiness ensues for Claudia and Artie after another badly secured
artifact does what badly secured artifacts have always done on this
show. And time at the end wasted on humoring Allison Scagliotti's guitar
fetish, with a very bad and overlong song that was better suited for a
lame AMERICAN IDOL contestant. In short, this show is beyond ripe and
well into pungent territory anymore. I'm about ready to bail.

Grade: D

KING & MAXWELL (TNT, 9 PM) / Pilot
[Sean King and Michelle Maxwell are former Secret Service agents turned
private investigators; when Sean's friend is murdered, Sean decides to
represent an accused serial killer in hopes of discovering what happened
to his friend.]

Surprisingly, the folks behind this new show build their pilot around
the most recent K&M book (#5) instead of the first book. But it works
okay, or at least as okay as it can be when you condense an entire novel
down into one 43-minute television episode. Me, I would have treated
each book as a story arc of maybe five outings or so, meaning that each
season could maybe cover two books, with something to bridge the gap
between stories. But that's not the tack that they're taking here, so
we'll see how it works out when they quickly run out of Baldacci source
material. Overall, I didn't mind the changes that they made to this
particular book, but in terms of the bigger picture, they've obviously
decided to make the Sean King character into a scruffy comic relief
valve, which I don't particularly like. OTOH, the books *do* depict both
K&M as being a bit too tightly wound, but I just think that they've gone
way too far in unwinding King. And I'm not particularly keen on the look
of the guy in the role, either. So that, to me, is the weakest link
here. Maxwell, in turn, has gone from being a tightly-strung brunette to
a much more laid-back blonde, but it works better than the changes in
the King character. In the end, it was good enough to ensure that I'll
be back for the usual three-outing trial, but I'm not as excited at the
prospect of outing #2 as I would have hoped to be after the pilot. Oh, well.

Grade: C+

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"I was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to handle
stress." -- Norma Bates, BATES MOTEL

Jim G.

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Jun 13, 2013, 11:52:22 AM6/13/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on 6/11/2013 8:17 AM:
> In article <kp6vdh$b3m$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> THE GLADES
> Okay, this was *way* better than the season premiere. Nancy Nurse had
> little to do (although what she did was annoying as usual). Jim wasn't
> nearly as annoying as usual, and the people he accused were actually
> reasonable suspects. It was amusing that he considers BBQing more
> important than any other endeavor, and kept telling people he wanted to
> question to go ahead and do what they were doing, as long as they were
> cooking. Intern needs to stick a BBQ fork in his idiot brother, and,
> Kobe beef tips? Really? I *loved* Jim torturing the idiot Vegan
> suspect by eating ribs in front of her, and boy howdy did she have it
> coming. The only big problem is, there's no way the killer could have
> done the killing, at least not alone.
>
> WAREHOUSE THE THIRTEENTH THE SERIES
> I feel asleep halfway through. :\ What I did see was stupid.

It got worse. And then it didn't get better.

anim8rFSK

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Jun 13, 2013, 2:50:53 PM6/13/13
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In article <kpcqfu$l0g$9...@dont-email.me>,
"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> anim8rFSK sent the following on 6/11/2013 8:17 AM:
> > In article <kp6vdh$b3m$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> What did you watch?
> >
> > THE GLADES
> > Okay, this was *way* better than the season premiere. Nancy Nurse had
> > little to do (although what she did was annoying as usual). Jim wasn't
> > nearly as annoying as usual, and the people he accused were actually
> > reasonable suspects. It was amusing that he considers BBQing more
> > important than any other endeavor, and kept telling people he wanted to
> > question to go ahead and do what they were doing, as long as they were
> > cooking. Intern needs to stick a BBQ fork in his idiot brother, and,
> > Kobe beef tips? Really? I *loved* Jim torturing the idiot Vegan
> > suspect by eating ribs in front of her, and boy howdy did she have it
> > coming. The only big problem is, there's no way the killer could have
> > done the killing, at least not alone.
> >
> > WAREHOUSE THE THIRTEENTH THE SERIES
> > I feel asleep halfway through. :\ What I did see was stupid.
>
> It got worse. And then it didn't get better.

Yeah. Finally saw it. I still have *no* idea why going out for beers
at midnight conflicts with your party.

anim8rFSK

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Jun 13, 2013, 2:53:02 PM6/13/13
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In article <kpcqfj$l0g$1...@dont-email.me>,
"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Obveeus sent the following on 6/11/2013 5:55 AM:
> > What did you watch?
>
> WAREHOUSE 13 (SYFY, 9 PM) / Runaway
> [When a volcanic event at an Ark. State Prison allows two inmates to
> escape, Pete, Myka and Steve must partner with a U.S. Marshal to track
> down the fugitives.]
>
> The stupid, it burns. Molten lava that floats cars like boats on a river
> instead of melting them and/or making them go BOOM! Molten lava that
> instantly cools so that a guy who falls to a spot that was molten lava
> .001 seconds ago doesn't even get a minor burn. Lots of gheyness between
> Steve and his ex, with both apparently having wanted to be the woman in
> the relationship. And things weren't much better back at the warehouse,
> where wackiness ensues for Claudia and Artie after another badly secured
> artifact does what badly secured artifacts have always done on this
> show. And time at the end wasted on humoring Allison Scagliotti's guitar
> fetish, with a very bad and overlong song that was better suited for a
> lame AMERICAN IDOL contestant. In short, this show is beyond ripe and
> well into pungent territory anymore. I'm about ready to bail.

As we suspected, last week's crapfest was saved *only* by the otherwise
pointless inclusion of Jaime. And did they completely forget about
Kelly Hu?

Ian J. Ball

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Jun 13, 2013, 2:54:38 PM6/13/13
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Oh, yeah - this is the show I have to fit in an OnDemand viewing of
(assuming it's actually available OnDemand).

Well, provided I even remember to!...

Jim G.

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Jun 13, 2013, 5:41:23 PM6/13/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:50:53 -0700:
That was just one of many questions. For one thing, I'm surprised that
you weren't more upset that Claudia didn't take the shot. :)

Jim G.

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Jun 13, 2013, 5:41:23 PM6/13/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:53:02 -0700:
Bait and switch. They lead us to believe that we can expect to see her
and then hit us with a gay ex. He was kind of dreamy, though. Can I say
that out loud?

Jim G.

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Jun 13, 2013, 5:41:23 PM6/13/13
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Ian J. Ball sent the following on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:54:38 -0700 (PDT):
It's worth a look, but I was reminded once again that pilot episodes can
be really awkward and inconsistent.

anim8rFSK

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Jun 13, 2013, 7:47:07 PM6/13/13
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In article <7vekr8hsh037tcf21...@4ax.com>,
But seriously; does she still run the B&B? If so, how does the B&B have
a birthday party and not invite her? If not, who *is* running the B&B?

anim8rFSK

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Jun 13, 2013, 7:47:39 PM6/13/13
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In article <ruekr8lll54jvgsmm...@4ax.com>,
She made up for it by zapping somebody who was down anyway, but, yeah.

BTR1701

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Jun 13, 2013, 10:14:51 PM6/13/13
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In article <kpcqfj$l0g$1...@dont-email.me>,
Didn't watch the show, but I've read a few of the books. Baldacci
doesn't know shit about the Service. Intensely aggravating.

Jim G.

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Jun 14, 2013, 11:33:44 AM6/14/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:47:39 -0700:
Same guy, IIRC. She wouldn't shoot him to protect herself, but she
*would* shoot him after he was down and more or less incapacitated.
Nice.

I'm still hoping that I can be a "completist" where this show is
concerned, but I'm starting to have serious doubts. I'm more or less at
the point I was at with EUREKA when they did that whole virtual version
of the town and sucked the charm out of all of the characters (to say
nothing of adding Felicia Dud to the cast).

Jim G.

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Jun 14, 2013, 11:33:44 AM6/14/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:47:07 -0700:
Yeah, that's a really good question. I didn't even notice that she was
missing, though, given how rancid the rest of the episode was and the
fact that she's still too new to things to be noticeable to me by her
absence.

Jim G.

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Jun 14, 2013, 11:33:44 AM6/14/13
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BTR1701 sent the following on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:14:51 -0700:
? In the books, AFAICR, there's been very little (if any) discussion of
the SS beyond it being their past careers. Even in the first book, I
don't recall a ton of specifics that suggested to me that Baldacci was
blowing it on the factual side of things. If anything, he seemed to be
avoiding specifics as if he didn't *want* to do any research along those
lines.

anim8rFSK

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Jun 14, 2013, 12:56:07 PM6/14/13
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In article <nfdmr85is27iblo0s...@4ax.com>,
I *think* she was going to shoot him in the first place and he knocked
the gun out of her hand, but I'm still pissed at her for not stunning
Artie when he was trying to destroy the world.
>
> I'm still hoping that I can be a "completist" where this show is
> concerned, but I'm starting to have serious doubts. I'm more or less at
> the point I was at with EUREKA when they did that whole virtual version
> of the town and sucked the charm out of all of the characters (to say
> nothing of adding Felicia Dud to the cast).

--

anim8rFSK

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Jun 14, 2013, 12:57:10 PM6/14/13
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In article <5idmr89f15sl1li0k...@4ax.com>,
I think of it every time we see the B&B. If nobody's running it, and
they're doing their own laundry and breakfast, then Pete should be
complaining bitterly and constantly, which they could actually get some
mileage out of; make him goofy trying to cook and clean, not when he's
on duty.

Jim G.

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Jun 14, 2013, 3:25:36 PM6/14/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:57:10 -0700:
I think that it also has to do with the fact that you were *really* fond
of Leena. :)

> If nobody's running it, and
> they're doing their own laundry and breakfast, then Pete should be
> complaining bitterly and constantly, which they could actually get some
> mileage out of; make him goofy trying to cook and clean, not when he's
> on duty.

Oh, dear God, no. Anything that even remotely encourages Pete to be
"funny" is a very, very bad idea at this point.

Jim G.

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Jun 14, 2013, 3:25:36 PM6/14/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:56:07 -0700:
I think that you're being way too generous here.

> but I'm still pissed at her for not stunning
> Artie when he was trying to destroy the world.

But then we wouldn't have had all of the embarrassingly bad attempts at
angst since then, from both Claudia *and* Artie! And Leena wouldn't be
dead.

BTR1701

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Jun 14, 2013, 7:21:23 PM6/14/13
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Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> BTR1701 sent the following on Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:14:51 -0700:
>> In article <kpcqfj$l0g$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> KING & MAXWELL (TNT, 9 PM) / Pilot
>>> [Sean King and Michelle Maxwell are former Secret Service agents turned
>>> private investigators; when Sean's friend is murdered, Sean decides to
>>> represent an accused serial killer in hopes of discovering what happened
>>> to his friend.]
>>
>> Didn't watch the show, but I've read a few of the books. Baldacci
>> doesn't know shit about the Service. Intensely aggravating.
>
> ? In the books, AFAICR, there's been very little (if any) discussion of
> the SS beyond it being their past careers. Even in the first book, I
> don't recall a ton of specifics that suggested to me that Baldacci was
> blowing it on the factual side of things. If anything, he seemed to be
> avoiding specifics as if he didn't *want* to do any research along those
> lines.

There was one book where the girl was still an agent and was being set up
to take the fall for her protectee's assassination by some dark conspiracy
or something. It was after that that she quit and became PI partners with
the guy. It's been years so I don't remember the details. All the Setvice
stuff was exceedingly stupid, however.

Hunter

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Jun 15, 2013, 4:04:05 AM6/15/13
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On Tue, 11 Jun 2013 06:55:05 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>I watched:
>
>DEFIANCE: A strong episode with an A-plot involving a genetically modified
>alien designed to carry out undercover assassinations. His undercover look
>opens up possible future plotlines as well.
-----
Yes he could pop back up since there is no indication his programming
has been shut down. Probably would try to go after the Earth Allience
leader. McClintock reminds me of "Battlestar Galactica's" Sharon
Valerii who was tasked to kill Adama and didn't know it, thinking all
the time she was human and I think she volunteered for the task to and
she also reported back to her masters, but of course didn't remember
it
>
>Meanwhile, in the B plot, Jaime
>Murray spends lots of time with little clothing and the town
>prostitute/madam seems to be falling in love with her. I did wonder how a
>huge ship crashed without attracting a lot of scavengers,
-----
Nolan said "no scavagers yet" and I got the impression that it was
only a few hours after the crash, the engines were still smoking, so
word didn't spread yet. After all a lot of large framents probably
impacted and so there are a lot of impact sites to pick over. The
scavagers hadn't got to that ship yet.
>
> though...and I
>wondered how everyone had a sleepover at the American Indian's house without
>either of his kids showing up on screen.
-----
I think the "kids" were sleeping somewhere else.

------>Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

Jim G.

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Jun 15, 2013, 4:44:40 PM6/15/13
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BTR1701 sent the following on Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:21:23 -0500:
And you're sure that it was a K&M book and not a Baldacci standalone or
something by another writer entirely? I can't say with certainty that
you're wrong, but I'm just not remembering anything like that in the
books. But we're also back to the fact that I can't remember what I had
for breakfast half the time...

anim8rFSK

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Jun 15, 2013, 11:36:59 PM6/15/13
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In article <vbkpr8dooscdddp50...@4ax.com>,
I watched it. It didn't draw me in at all, and the Intersect room was
*way* over the top. I'm not sure which of the characters will be
recurring, and I'm not sure I care.

Jim G.

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Jun 16, 2013, 3:23:04 PM6/16/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on Sat, 15 Jun 2013 20:36:59 -0700:
Yeah, I'll probably give it the usual three to win me over, but I'm
already pretty disappointed with the thing. As it is, I have two things
on my Monday viewing list, neither of which has me eagerly awaiting its
next arrival in the least.

BTR1701

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Jun 19, 2013, 8:13:53 PM6/19/13
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In article <vbkpr8dooscdddp50...@4ax.com>,
I know it was Baldacci and I know the two main characters were an
ex-USSS agent-turned PI and a current female USSS agent who ends up
leaving and joining him in his PI agency.

Jim G.

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Jun 20, 2013, 3:04:11 PM6/20/13
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BTR1701 sent the following on Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:13:53 -0700:
Fair 'nuff. Between the casting of this thing and the pilot (I have the
second episode, but I still haven't watched it), it's got me wishing all
the more that they'd opted to develop the Camel Club series instead.
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