Viewers Say 'C.S.I.: New York,' 'Joey' Most Anticipated
By The Futon Critic Staff
LOS ANGELES (thefutoncritic.com) -- Two spin-offs - NBC's "Joey" and
CBS' "C.S.I.: New York" - are the most anticipated series of the
2004-05 season according to a recently released survey by Philips
Electronics commissioned through Harris Interactive.
The pair were two of just 12 new or returning series that garnered a
5% favorable reaction from the 1,000 people polled:
"C.S.I.: New York" (CBS) - 47%
"Joey" (NBC) - 31%
"The Apprentice 2" (NBC) - 23%
"Survivor 9: Vanuatu" (CBS) - 23%
"Father of the Pride" (NBC) - 21%
"Dr. Vegas" (CBS) - 19%
"LAX" (NBC) - 17%
"Lost" (ABC) - 13%
"American Dad" (FOX) - 5%
"Life as We Know It" (ABC) - 5%
"Next Great Champ" (FOX) - 5%
"Renovate My Family" (FOX) - 5%
(% denotes the percentage of the 1,000 polled that designated the
series as being anticipated by them; i.e, a person could be
anticipating more than one series)
One must admit, this survey isn't really fair. Considering that I've
barely heard anything about the last four shows, it's not surprising
they've got such low numbers. The top two, on the other hand, have had
quite a bit of promotion.
Hasn't Fox learned its lesson with "Family Guy"? They'll probably
underpromote "American Dad" and change its timeslot weekly until it
fails. Do you suppose it's physically painful to be that stupid?
> Hasn't Fox learned
"FOX" and "learn" ...Hmmm., not likely. Those words really
should not be used in the same sentence.
> its lesson with "Family Guy"? They'll probably
> underpromote "American Dad" and change its timeslot weekly
until it
> fails.
Heh, you've seen FOX in action before. <g>
> Do you suppose it's physically painful to be that stupid?
Ignorance is bliss because the pain receptors at FOX are
disconnected.
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> from the futon critic
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> Viewers Say 'C.S.I.: New York,' 'Joey' Most Anticipated
> By The Futon Critic Staff
>
> LOS ANGELES (thefutoncritic.com) -- Two spin-offs - NBC's "Joey" and
> CBS' "C.S.I.: New York" - are the most anticipated series of the
> 2004-05 season according to a recently released survey by Philips
> Electronics commissioned through Harris Interactive.
>
> The pair were two of just 12 new or returning series that garnered a
> 5% favorable reaction from the 1,000 people polled:
>
> "C.S.I.: New York" (CBS) - 47%
> "Joey" (NBC) - 31%
> "The Apprentice 2" (NBC) - 23%
> "Survivor 9: Vanuatu" (CBS) - 23%
> "Father of the Pride" (NBC) - 21%
> "Dr. Vegas" (CBS) - 19%
> "LAX" (NBC) - 17%
> "Lost" (ABC) - 13%
> "American Dad" (FOX) - 5%
> "Life as We Know It" (ABC) - 5%
These results are interesting for a couple of reasons:
- "Dr. Vegas" is much higher on this list than I would have thought
(if its pilot is good enough, it should have the edge on
NBC's "Medical Investigation" show...)
- "Lost" is ABC's most anticipated premiere. Meanwhile,
"Desperate Housewives" is not even listed - that's a bad sign.
- FOX has very little to be happy about.
- Neither The WB's nor UPN's new shows even rate. Ouch.
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><413387cc...@news.individual.net>, diml...@yahoo.com (David)
wrote:
>>from the futon critic
>>"Lost" (ABC) - 13%
>>"American Dad" (FOX) - 5%
>>"Life as We Know It" (ABC) - 5%
>>"Next Great Champ" (FOX) - 5%
>>"Renovate My Family" (FOX) - 5%
>One must admit, this survey isn't really
>fair. Considering that I've barely heard
>anything about the last four shows, it's not
>surprising they've got such low numbers.
ABC has been running as many promos for "Life as You Know It" as they
have for "Lost" so the natural answer is that you (like most of the
people surveyed for this poll) probably don't watch much if any ABC
shows. Lost has slightly more name recognition due to its Abrams
connection, and the actors are known for genre work. In the end though
all of the numbers for the poll mirror the networks with the most
viewers. No real surprise that the future would look like the past.
>The top two, on the other hand, have had
>quite a bit of promotion.
Probably the same amount as the ones on ABC anyway.
..
Mr. Hole
"You would make a destructive god, Mr. Hole, but as a human, you remain
pathetic and ineffectual." -- Heck
American Dad had a five minute pilot leaked on usenet and it sucked. I'm a
huuuge family guy fan and American Dad just sucked. it seems to be a
simmilar show but the father of the family is more Joe than Peter, they have
a pet fish who is in love with the mother of the family and sounds like
Stewie, and instead of a talking dog they have atalking alien.
All in all the whole five minute thing didn't even make me chuckle...
the Next Great Champ is an American Idol with Boxing type show. Not the
Stalone one than was originally planned but, like they have with Trading
spouses, Fox have seen another networks idea for a show and stolen it,
rushed it into production and got it out first.
Father of the Pride and LAX look terrible....
Also how come Survivor 9 and Apprentice 2 are considered new shows and not
just new seasons of exsisting shows....
I saw the original pilot for desperate housewives and it was quite good, I'm
not in the US so obviously I dont know what kind of promos are being done
for it but certainly any of the american media I watch or listen to on US TV
networks that air here like E! or radio shows I listen to certainly have
made no mention of the show. a Dreamworks head honco was on the radio show
talking about father of the pride, CBS president Les Moonves was on talking
about CSINY, wives from trading spouses, survivor contestants, former
apprentice contestants have all been on it talking about thing. The fall
previews on E! that I saw also made no mention of desperate housewives.
>from the futon critic
>
>Viewers Say 'C.S.I.: New York,' 'Joey' Most Anticipated
>By The Futon Critic Staff
>
>LOS ANGELES (thefutoncritic.com) -- Two spin-offs - NBC's "Joey" and
>CBS' "C.S.I.: New York" - are the most anticipated series of the
>2004-05 season according to a recently released survey by Philips
>Electronics commissioned through Harris Interactive.
>
>The pair were two of just 12 new or returning series that garnered a
>5% favorable reaction from the 1,000 people polled:
>
>"C.S.I.: New York" (CBS) - 47%
Will be professional, even though Sinese's hearts probably not in it.
>"Joey" (NBC) - 31%
Even though this seems like one of the Seinfeld has-beens attempts
at their own show, it will probably do ok.
>"The Apprentice 2" (NBC) - 23%
Here's hoping Trump has a brain anurysm.
>"Survivor 9: Vanuatu" (CBS) - 23%
Who cares?
>"Father of the Pride" (NBC) - 21%
Huh?
>"Dr. Vegas" (CBS) - 19%
Huh?
>"LAX" (NBC) - 17%
Silly looking show. Lax is the word.
"Lost" (ABC) - 13%
New "Gilligan's Island?"
> Also how come Survivor 9 and Apprentice 2 are considered new shows and not
> just new seasons of exsisting shows....
This seems to be common practice for reality shows. I guess it's
because the entire cast (except the host) is new, and in the case of
Survivor it's also a new location. So there's little in common with
previous seasons except the basic premise.
I don't agree, but that's probably how they justify it.
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Arlington, MA
Yawn
> "Dr. Vegas" (CBS) - 19%
Intriguing
Wow I don't know most of the ones on that lineup and the others I did were
too boring to mention.
Yeah what anticipation us viewers have.
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>>
>> - "Lost" is ABC's most anticipated premiere. Meanwhile,
>> "Desperate Housewives" is not even listed - that's a bad sign.
>>
>I think "Housewives" is going to be a tough sell, Ian. And I've seen the
>pilot, and thought it was quite good. But the show's concept, and especially
>its title, is a marketing nightmare.
>
The commercials for it make it seem a lot more interesting than it sounds. I
hadn't planned on watching until I saw commercials for it on The Days.
I've seen the pilot and enjoyed it very much. It seems just offbeat
enough to be new, but not so much it would turn off middle america.
Sort of Knots Landing meets American Beauty.
I don't aspire to handicapping America's taste in TV fare, it seems to
make no sense at all. But ABC has slotted it for Sunday night, which
is a major vote of confidence.
where'd you download it from Scott? can you tell us more about your
initial reactions of the characters and what makes it similar to a
Knots Landing meets American Beauty. Interesting observations...
I got an early release ABC preview dvd from a magazine I work at
(perks of being in "the media").
It reminded me of Knots Landing in that the charactors are all tied
together by their proximity as neighbors on Wisteria Lane, like
Seaview Circle tied all the Knot charactors together for at least the
first 1/2 of the run.
But the campiness that we associate with nighttimes soaps is in this
case a little more ironic and intentional.
But the tone is a little more American Beauty; a wife sleeping with
the gardner, unexpected violence. It has sort of surrealistic tone to
it. Almost something I kind of think as hyper-realism, llike Six Feet
Under, where things are so exaggerated and bizarre, they do have that
"stranger than fiction feel." Nip/Tuck also has that same tone.
The charactors in the pilot are rather sketchy and stereotypical. The
hot model (and token person of color), the harried housewife, the
slutty man-eating divorcee, the insecure but beautiful & talented
divorcee, the Martha Stewart on steroids. I don't much expect nuance
and deep layering in a pilot, the idea is to paint with a broad brush
what the season will be about. I would expect they'll be fleshed out
later. It seems well-written (and acted) enough to live up to that
expectation.
lucky you that you got to check the show out early. I think you're
right about the writing being great especially since they have the
writers from both Melrose and General Hospital.