This is the final ballot for the 2008-2009 Ratty Awards for the rec.arts.tv newsgroup, as compiled by Robert Licuria.
There were 32 voters in the nominations round this year, up from 28 last year.
Lost once again led all series in nominations this year, with 11. However, NBC led all networks in nominations with a total of 31 nominations spread among 10 shows.
Welcome to the party ... or should that be "Welcome to the Dollhouse"?: The most nominated new series was Dollhouse, with 7 nominations including Best Series on Television. Other new series making strong showings included True Blood with 6 nominations and Fringe with 5 nominations.
We'll miss you: The most nominated series to end its run in the 2007-08 season was Battlestar Galactica, with 7 nominations.
On the cusp: Among the shows that came close to nominations without receiving any this year were Scrubs and Greek. While Dexter and ER received one nomination each, they each came close to receiving more.
Genre switch: Last year, Pushing Daisies competed in the SF categories, but this year it is competing in the Comedy categories because it received more votes for Best Comedy Series than Best SF Series this year.
Network switch: Friday Night Lights, which was listed as an NBC series in previous years, switched in the 2008-09 season to airing on DirecTV's 101 Network first, and then having its episodes broadcast on NBC later. Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.
On the other hand, Deal or No Deal aired both on NBC and in syndication during the 2008-09 season, but with different episodes for each. Therefore, both NBC and syndication receive credit for the show's Ratty nominations this year, although those nominations happen to be in the "Worst" categories.
Nominations tally:
The Best:
11: Lost (down 5)
9: Friday Night Lights (up 2), The Office (up 1)
7: 30 Rock (down 1), Battlestar Galactica (down 1), Breaking Bad (up 6), Dollhouse, How I Met Your Mother (even)
6: Mad Men (up 4), The Shield (up 6), True Blood
5: Fringe, Pushing Daisies (up 1)
4: The Big Bang Theory (even), Big Love (up 2), Chuck (up 2), Grey Gardens, Saturday Night Live (up 2)
3: Better Off Ted, Damages (down 1), Doctor Who (down 1), Into the Storm, Sons of Anarchy
2: 24 (even from 2 years ago), The Colbert Report (even), The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (even), Generation Kill, Little Dorrit, Parks and Recreation, Prayers for Bobby, The Soup (up 2), Taking Chance
1: The Alzheimer's Project, The Amazing Race (even), Aqua Teen Hunger Force (up 1), The Biggest Loser (up 1), Countdown with Keith Olbermann (up 1), Desperate Housewives (down 4), Dexter (down 1), ER (up 1), Frontline (up 1), Gossip Girl (down 2), King of the Hill (up 1), Late Show with David Letterman (even), Life (even), The Life and Times of Tim, Medium (down 1), My Name Is Earl (even), MythBusters (even), The New Adventures of Old Christine (down 1), The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer (up 1), Party Down, Reaper (even), The Simpsons (even), South Park (even), Survivor (up 1), Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (down 3), Top Chef (even), United States of Tara, Weeds (down 1), Wipeout, Worst Week
The Worst:
4: American Idol (up 2)
2: The Celebrity Apprentice (up 1), Deal or No Deal (up 1), Living Lohan (up 2)
1: America's Next Top Model (up 1), CSI: Miami (even), Denise Richards: It's Complicated (up 1), Do Not Disturb, Paris Hilton's My New BFF
The Worst: Fox 5 (up 2) * NBC 4 (up 1) * E! 3 (up 3) * Syndication 2 (up 2) * CBS 1 (even) * CW 1 (up 1) * MTV 1 (up 1)
The following are the rules for this second stage of voting:
* CAMPAIGNING IS ALLOWED. You may encourage people to vote in the Rattys on other web sites, blogs, mailing lists, etc., or on other television-related newsgroups, if you do so with good netiquette. In fact, I am planning to campaign myself. However, please don't post the ballot anywhere else, except with permission of one of the Ratty Awards administrators. Just tell people they can find the ballot at the rec.arts.tv newsgroup (you can provide a URL as a link).
* In the final results posting, I will post the percentages received by all nominees if and only if we receive ballots from more than 100 voters.
* Anyone reading this posting is eligible to vote, whether or not you voted in the first round.
* In each category, delete the four nominees you don't want to vote for, leaving your one single vote in each category.
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* The deadline to submit votes is Thursday, July 23, 2009, at 10:00 p.m. (U.S. Pacific time).
* Please send your ballot to robertlicu...@hotmail.com (if that e-mail address has been obscured, that's robertlicuria AT hotmail DOT com). You can also post your votes to the newsgroup if you want, but all ballots must be e-mailed to me to be counted.
* Thanks to everyone who voted. Now it's time to pick your winners.
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BEST COMEDY SERIES 30 Rock (NBC) The Big Bang Theory (CBS) How I Met Your Mother (CBS) The Office (NBC) Pushing Daisies (ABC)
BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC) Kyle Bornheimer as Sam Briggs - Worst Week (CBS) Steve Carell as Michael Scott - The Office (NBC) Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC) Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS Toni Collette as Tara Gregson - United States of Tara (Showtime) Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC) Anna Friel as Charlotte "Chuck" Charles - Pushing Daisies (ABC) Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Christine Campbell – The New Adventures of Old Christine (CBS) Amy Poehler as Leslie Knope - Parks and Recreation (NBC)
BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR Aziz Ansari as Tom Haverford - Parks and Recreation (NBC) Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your Mother (CBS) John Krasinski as Jim Halpert - The Office (NBC) Chi McBride as Emerson Cod - Pushing Daisies (ABC) Rainn Wilson as Dwight Schrute - The Office (NBC)
BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS Kristin Chenoweth as Olive Snook - Pushing Daisies (ABC) Portia de Rossi as Veronica Palmer - Better Off Ted (ABC) Jenna Fischer as Pam Beesly - The Office (NBC) Alyson Hannigan as Lily Aldrin - How I Met Your Mother (CBS) Cobie Smulders as Robin Scherbatsky - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR Will Arnett as Devon Banks - 30 Rock, "Do-Over" (NBC) Creed Bratton as Creed Bratton - The Office, recurring (NBC) Beau Bridges as Carl Hickey - My Name is Earl, "Monkeys Take a Bath" (NBC) Albert Brooks as Lenny Botwin – Weeds, recurring (Showtime) Chris Parnell as Leo Spaceman - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)
BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS Christine Baranski as Beverly Hofstadter - The Big Bang Theory, "The Maternal Capacitance" (CBS) Kristen Bell as Uda Bengt - Party Down, "Stennheiser-Pong Wedding Reception" (Starz) Sarah Chalke as Stella Zinman - How I Met Your Mother, recurring (CBS) Amy Ryan as Holly Flax - The Office, recurring (NBC) Lily Tomlin as Roberta Simmons - Desperate Housewives, recurring (ABC)
BEST COMEDY EPISODE 30 Rock, "Reunion" (written by Matt Hubbard, directed by Beth McCarthy- Miller) (NBC) Better Off Ted, "Racial Sensitivity" (written by Michael Glouberman, directed by Paul Lazarus) (ABC) The Big Bang Theory, "The Maternal Capacitance" (story by Chuck Lorre & Bill Prady, teleplay by Richard Rosenstock & Steven Molaro, directed by Mark Cendrowski) (CBS) How I Met Your Mother, "The Naked Man" (written by Joe Kelly, directed by Pamela Fryman) (CBS) The Office, "Stress Relief" (written by Paul Lieberstein, directed by Jeffrey Blitz) (NBC)
BEST DRAMA SERIES Big Love (HBO) Breaking Bad (AMC) Friday Night Lights (101 Network) Mad Men (AMC) The Shield (FX)
BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR Kyle Chandler as Eric Taylor - Friday Night Lights (101 Network) Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX) Bryan Cranston as Walter H. White - Breaking Bad (AMC) Jon Hamm as Don Draper - Mad Men (AMC) Damian Lewis as Charlie Crews – Life (NBC)
BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS Connie Britton as Tami Taylor - Friday Night Lights (101 Network) Rose Byrne as Ellen Parsons - Damages (FX) Glenn Close as Patty Hewes – Damages (FX) Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO) Jeanne Tripplehorn as Barb Henrickson - Big Love (HBO)
BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX) William Hurt as Daniel Purcell - Damages (FX) Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman - Breaking Bad (AMC) John Slattery as Roger Sterling - Mad Men (AMC) Jimmy Smits as Miguel Prado – Dexter (Showtime)
BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS Anna Gunn as Skyler White - Breaking Bad (AMC) Cherry Jones as Allison Taylor – 24 (Fox) Adrianne Palicki as Tyra Collette - Friday Night Lights (101 Network) CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX) Katey Sagal as Gemma Teller Morrow - Sons of Anarchy (FX)
BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR Gaius Charles as Brian "Smash" Williams - Friday Night Lights, recurring (101 Network) John de Lancie as Donald Margolis - Breaking Bad,
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> BEST COMEDY SERIES
The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Christine Campbell - The New Adventures of Old Christine (CBS) You know how low you've gone when *my* pick is Julia Louis-Dreyfus???
> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Alyson Hannigan as Lily Aldrin - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Beau Bridges as Carl Hickey - My Name is Earl, "Monkeys Take a Bath" (NBC) You know how low you've gone when *my* pick is somebody from "My Name is Earl" and I didn't even *watch* the show this season???
> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS > BEST COMEDY EPISODE
How I Met Your Mother, "The Naked Man" (written by Joe Kelly, directed by Pamela Fryman) (CBS)
> BEST DRAMA SERIES > BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR > BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS > BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR > BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS > BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR > BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS > BEST DRAMA EPISODE
*SHOULD* *HAVE* *BEEN* : "For Warrick" (CSI) *or* "You'll Be the Death of Me" (True Blood)
> BEST SF SERIES
Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
> BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
> BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS
Anna Paquin as Sookie Stackhouse - True Blood (HBO)
> BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Ray Wise as the Devil - Reaper (CW)
> BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Summer Glau as Cameron Phillips - Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
> BEST SF GUEST ACTOR
Dean Stockwell as John Cavil - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci Fi)
> BEST SF GUEST ACTRESS
Lizzy Caplan as Amy Burley - True Blood, recurring (HBO)
> BEST SF EPISODE
Doctor Who, "The Stolen Earth" (written by Russell T. Davies, directed by Graeme Harper) (Sci Fi)
> BEST TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES > BEST ACTOR - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES > BEST ACTRESS - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES > BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
> BEST PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
> BEST REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
Wipeout (ABC)
> BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
Frontline (PBS)
> BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special)
The Simpsons (Fox)
> BEST NEW SERIES
True Blood (HBO)
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
Saturday Night Live (NBC)
> BEST SERIES ON TELEVISION > WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION
American Idol (Fox)
> WORST MALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
> WORST FEMALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
Paris Hilton as herself - Paris Hilton's My New BFF (MTV)
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Good God, you people nominated a lot of crap this year!!!
Toughest Categories:
> WORST MALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION > WORST FEMALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
I had a tough time eliminating ANYBODY.
-- Mac Breck (KoshN) ------------------------------- "Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) Durkani: It doesn't matter if they believe us. Sooner or later the truth's going to come out. The truth is.... Kendarr: ....out of fashion.
> In article <6pWdnbMU7LDvBcjXnZ2dnUVZ_h6dn...@supernews.com>, > "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Good God, you people nominated a lot of crap this year!!!
> There's only like 4 things outside of the sci-fi I've even seen.
> So, my votes are officially up for sale, since I have no other criteria > to go by.
I'm not even going to vote. This is why I gave up even nominating anything a couple years ago. It wasn't worth the time or effort. I watch lots of stuff but apparently not much of what the nominators watch. :)
On Jul 8, 11:25 pm, Joshua Kreitzer <gromi...@hotmail.com> wrote: *** 15TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS *** *** delete everything above this line*** 15th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot Reminder: send to robertlicu...@hotmail.com
BEST COMEDY SERIES 30 Rock (NBC)
BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR Steve Carell as Michael Scott - The Office (NBC)
BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC)
BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
<good to see "Parks & Recreation" getting early recognition. Next year will be its year, unless NBC cancels it>
BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS Cobie Smulders as Robin Scherbatsky - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR Creed Bratton as Creed Bratton - The Office, recurring (NBC)
BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS Kristen Bell as Uda Bengt - Party Down, "Stennheiser-Pong Wedding Reception" (Starz)
<Amy Ryan should win but... it's Kristen Bell! I doubt many people even saw this show but... it's Kristen Bell!>
BEST COMEDY EPISODE Better Off Ted, "Racial Sensitivity" (written by Michael Glouberman, directed by Paul Lazarus) (ABC)
<gotta admit this was the best episode of the five choices even though I didn't vote for the show>
BEST DRAMA SERIES The Shield (FX)
BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX)
BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS Glenn Close as Patty Hewes – Damages (FX)
BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX)
BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR Scott Porter as Jason Street - Friday Night Lights, recurring (101 Network)
BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS Laurie Holden as Olivia Murray - The Shield, recurring (FX)
<weak category, but anyone who's been steamrolled by Vic Mackey should qualify>
BEST DRAMA EPISODE The Shield, "Family Meeting" (written by Shawn Ryan, directed by Clark Johnson) (FX)
BEST SF SERIES Lost (ABC)
<weird. For a long time I only had "The X-Files to vote for and then "Lost." Now suddenly sci-fi categories have some tough choices>
BEST SF LEAD ACTOR Josh Holloway as James "Sawyer" Ford - Lost (ABC)
<Sawyer had one of the all-time great character arcs this year>
BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS Anna Paquin as Sookie Stackhouse - True Blood (HBO)
BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)
BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet Burke - Lost (ABC)
BEST SF GUEST ACTOR Mark Pellegrino as Jacob – Lost, "The Incident" (ABC)
BEST SF GUEST ACTRESS Jordana Brewster as Jill Roberts – Chuck, recurring (NBC)
<that's one I remembered after already sending the nominations>
BEST SF EPISODE Lost, "This Place Is Death" (written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz, directed by Paul A. Edwards) (ABC)
BEST TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES Generation Kill (HBO)
BEST ACTOR - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES Brendan Gleeson as Winston Churchill - Into the Storm (HBO)
BEST ACTRESS - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES Jessica Lange as "Big" Edith Bouvier Beale - Grey Gardens (HBO)
BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
BEST PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL Tina Fey - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
<where's Will Ferrell as Bush??>
BEST REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special) Wipeout (ABC)
BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special) MythBusters (Discovery)
<"Wipeout" and "Mythbusters" in different categories... nice!>
BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special) The Simpsons (Fox)
BEST NEW SERIES True Blood (HBO)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES 24 (Fox)
BEST SERIES ON TELEVISION Lost (ABC)
<No "Shield"? Having one of the best, most satisfying final seasons of any show ever doesn't go as far as it used to. Or you're watching the wrong things!>
WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION Do Not Disturb (Fox)
<because it's actually trying to be a comedy while the other choices are exactly what they're trying to be>
WORST MALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION Donald Trump as himself – The Celebrity Apprentice (NBC)
WORST FEMALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION Tyra Banks as herself – America's Next Top Model (CW)
I hope you folks who've been posting your ballots to r.a.tv are remembering to also email them to Robert, or they won't count! (And yes, I will strip out my extraneous comments before I send this to him.)
In article <18fd7480-25c7-49b9-b4ca-1bcbfe595...@k19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, Joshua Kreitzer <gromi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Network switch: Friday Night Lights, which was listed as an NBC series >in previous years, switched in the 2008-09 season to airing on >DirecTV's 101 Network first, and then having its episodes broadcast on >NBC later. Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating >network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast >satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.
Interesting. A new twist on the importance of cable/satellite channels such as USA and HBO.
I don't watch any of those comedies, so didn't vote in any comedy categories.
>BEST DRAMA SERIES >Big Love (HBO)
>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR >Damian Lewis as Charlie Crews – Life (NBC)
This show also gets my unofficial nomination for best series finale this year.
>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS >Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO)
Tough choice here for me between Chloe Sevigny and Jeanne Tripplehorn, but Sevigny had the more intense role this season.
>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR >Jimmy Smits as Miguel Prado – Dexter (Showtime)
He usually plays such nice characters; it was interesting seeing him turn ruthless.
>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS >Cherry Jones as Allison Taylor – 24 (Fox)
>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
None of the nominees in thes two categories were in shows I'd seen.
>BEST DRAMA EPISODE >Big Love, "Come, Ye Saints" (written by Melanie Marnich, directed by >Dan Attias) (HBO)
That was a very good episode. Tough times for Bill.
>BEST SF SERIES >Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>BEST SF LEAD ACTOR >David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS >Anna Paquin as Sookie Stackhouse - True Blood (HBO)
>BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR >Nelsan Ellis as Lafayette Reynolds - True Blood (HBO)
>BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS >Rutina Wesley as Tara Thornton - True Blood (HBO)
I know that "Lost" has more viewers, so I'm not getting my hopes up about "Doctor Who" or "True Blood" winning any of these categories. But hey, they asked for my vote. :-)
>BEST PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL >Tina Fey - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
>BEST REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
>BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special) >The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer (PBS)
Another tough choice for me, since my other nominees (HBO's "The Alzehimer's Project" and PBS's "Frontline") also made the final cut. May I vote three times? :-)
>BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special) >King of the Hill (Fox)
>BEST NEW SERIES >True Blood (HBO)
>MOST IMPROVED SERIES >24 (Fox)
How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved" category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)
>If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.
>1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.
Oh, c'mon, Brian! Some of the regulars here already finked out by not participating in the nominating round. We need the whole gang for the voting phase!
Patty Winter wrote: > In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>, > Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.
>> 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.
> Some of the regulars here already finked out > by not participating in the nominating round.
Meant to. Didn't get a Round Tuit.
-- Mac Breck (KoshN) ------------------------------- "Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) Durkani: It doesn't matter if they believe us. Sooner or later the truth's going to come out. The truth is.... Kendarr: ....out of fashion.
> In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>, > Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.
> > 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.
> Oh, c'mon, Brian! Some of the regulars here already finked out > by not participating in the nominating round. We need the whole > gang for the voting phase!
Not worth the risk.
Brian
-- Day 157 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project
In article <4a56111a$0$1605$742ec...@news.sonic.net>, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved" > category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)
Especially given that all Dollhouse deserves isa 'Biggest crap in a basket series destroying finale outside of Trek' award; I won't even be watching it when it comes back.
-- Uncle Jack: "Will, you're invisible!" Will: "Invisible? I can't be! I can touch myself!" --actual dialog from third season LAND OF THE LOST
Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote: >Patty Winter wrote:
>> In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>, >> Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.
>> > 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.
>> Oh, c'mon, Brian! Some of the regulars here already finked out >> by not participating in the nominating round. We need the whole >> gang for the voting phase!
>Not worth the risk.
Brian, I hate to break it to you, but you're already trapped in the r.a.tv web of intrigue, so you might as well vote in the RATTYs. :-)
> In article <7bmq7cF241iv...@mid.individual.net>, > Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Patty Winter wrote:
> >> In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>, > >> Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> > If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.
> >> > 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.
> >> Oh, c'mon, Brian! Some of the regulars here already finked out > >> by not participating in the nominating round. We need the whole > >> gang for the voting phase!
> > Not worth the risk.
> Brian, I hate to break it to you, but you're already trapped > in the r.a.tv web of intrigue, so you might as well vote in > the RATTYs. :-)
This is much larger than ratv. Trust me that you risk life and limb, and worse -- jury duty. Voting in online polls is dangerous. Trust me.
Brian
-- Day 157 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project
> > In article <7bmq7cF241iv...@mid.individual.net>, > > Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Patty Winter wrote:
> > >> In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>, > > >> Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> > If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.
> > >> > 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.
> > >> Oh, c'mon, Brian! Some of the regulars here already finked out > > >> by not participating in the nominating round. We need the whole > > >> gang for the voting phase!
> > > Not worth the risk.
> > Brian, I hate to break it to you, but you're already trapped > > in the r.a.tv web of intrigue, so you might as well vote in > > the RATTYs. :-)
> This is much larger than ratv. Trust me that you risk life and limb, > and worse -- jury duty. Voting in online polls is dangerous. Trust me.
But what if I need to "complete an offer"? Or I've "already won"??
On 09 Jul 2009 15:47:38 GMT, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
This year's RATTYs has turned out to be the easiest for me to vote for, no difficult choices at all. Completed and emailed in a couple of minutes, tops.
>>Network switch: Friday Night Lights, which was listed as an NBC series >>in previous years, switched in the 2008-09 season to airing on >>DirecTV's 101 Network first, and then having its episodes broadcast on >>NBC later. Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating >>network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast >>satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.
>Interesting. A new twist on the importance of cable/satellite channels >such as USA and HBO.
If enough people had nominated LAW & ORDER:CI, it would have been another example. And wow, nobody liked LEVERAGE enough, eh?
>I don't watch any of those comedies, so didn't vote in any >comedy categories.
What comedies do you watch? Any British or Canadian ones to recommend?
>>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR >>Damian Lewis as Charlie Crews – Life (NBC)
>This show also gets my unofficial nomination for best >series finale this year.
Me too. Though I'll miss THE UNUSUALS more.
>>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS >>Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO)
>Tough choice here for me between Chloe Sevigny and Jeanne >Tripplehorn, but Sevigny had the more intense role this >season.
I went Sevigny too, but I thought Tripplehorn was good in her sister/mother/ brother-in-law storyline too.
>>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
>>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
>None of the nominees in thes two categories were in shows >I'd seen.
You don't watch THE SHIELD? Apart from that, same goes for me. I did vote for Jay Karnes though, since he apparently didn't get enough nominations for the shows I did watch.
>I know that "Lost" has more viewers, so I'm not getting my >hopes up about "Doctor Who" or "True Blood" winning any of >these categories. But hey, they asked for my vote. :-)
No love for FRINGE 8-(.
BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed at tweens, so I totally skipped it.
>>BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
No love for Craig Ferguson either!
>>MOST IMPROVED SERIES >>24 (Fox)
>How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved" >category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)
Rather than comparing seasons, I suppose people are comparing episodes i.e. it improved from the pilot to the season finale? <shrug>
Dawnie wrote: > BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was > going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed > at tweens, so I totally skipped it.
Never saw Twilight. Like True Blood. No time to explain at the moment.
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On Jul 9, 9:34 pm, Dawnie <siokm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was > going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed > at tweens, so I totally skipped it.
"Twilight" is insultingly horrible. "True Blood" has become one of my favorite shows. It's loaded with the sort of interesting, likable characters I could watch do anything, it's funny, strange, has a good mystery, is impossible to predict at any time what will happen next, evokes a wonderful gothic atmosphere. The show's a real treasure.
> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR > Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC)
> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS > Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC)
> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR > Chi McBride as Emerson Cod - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS > Kristin Chenoweth as Olive Snook - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR > Chris Parnell as Leo Spaceman - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)
> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS > Lily Tomlin as Roberta Simmons - Desperate Housewives, recurring (ABC)
> BEST COMEDY EPISODE > 30 Rock, "Reunion" (written by Matt Hubbard, directed by Beth McCarthy- > Miller) (NBC)
> BEST DRAMA SERIES > Breaking Bad (AMC)
> BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR > Bryan Cranston as Walter H. White - Breaking Bad (AMC)
> BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS > Glenn Close as Patty Hewes – Damages (FX) > BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR > Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
> BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS > CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX)
> BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR > Jay Karnes as Scott Kohn - Sons of Anarchy, recurring (FX)
> BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS > Melinda McGraw as Bobbie Barrett - Mad Men, recurring (AMC)
> BEST DRAMA EPISODE > Breaking Bad, "ABQ" (written by Vince Gilligan, directed by Adam > Bernstein) (AMC) > BEST SF SERIES > Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
> BEST SF LEAD ACTOR > Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
> BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS > Anna Torv as Olivia Dunham - Fringe (Fox)
> BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR > John Noble as Walter Bishop - Fringe (Fox)
> BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS > Summer Glau as Cameron Phillips - Terminator: The Sarah Connor > Chronicles (Fox)
> BEST SF GUEST ACTOR > Patton Oswalt as Joel Mynor – Dollhouse, "Man on the Street" (Fox)
> BEST SF GUEST ACTRESS > Kate Vernon as Ellen Tigh - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci Fi)
> BEST SF EPISODE > Battlestar Galactica, "Daybreak" (written by Ronald D. Moore, directed > by Michael Rymer) (Sci Fi)
> BEST TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES > BEST ACTOR - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> BEST ACTRESS - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL > The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
> BEST PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL > Tina Fey - Saturday Night Live (NBC) > BEST REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special) > BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special) > MythBusters (Discovery)
> BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special) > BEST NEW SERIES > Fringe (Fox) > MOST IMPROVED SERIES > 24 (Fox)
> BEST SERIES ON TELEVISION > Lost (ABC) > WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION
> [attribution missing] >>> Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating >>>network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast >>>satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.
>>Interesting. A new twist on the importance of cable/satellite channels >>such as USA and HBO.
>If enough people had nominated LAW & ORDER:CI, it would have been >another example.
Eh? L&O: CI airs on USA, not a satellite-only channel.
>>I don't watch any of those comedies, so didn't vote in any >>comedy categories.
>What comedies do you watch? Any British or Canadian ones to recommend?
Mostly reruns of "As Time Goes By." :-) And "Kingdom" is a comedy/drama. I've also seen a sweet Canadian series called "Mixed Blessings," which co-stars Gary Basaraba. But my TV watching is almost entirely dramas, sci-fi, and news/public affairs.
>>Tough choice here for me between Chloe Sevigny and Jeanne >>Tripplehorn, but Sevigny had the more intense role this >>season.
>I went Sevigny too, but I thought Tripplehorn was good in her >sister/mother/ brother-in-law storyline too.
Indeed. I'll be happy if either of them wins. I'm hoping for some good news for them when Emmy time comes around, too.
>BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was >going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed >at tweens, so I totally skipped it.
Definitely not aimed at tweens! Much more adult and intense. I really like how Alan Ball makes characters who are different but believable.
>>>BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
>No love for Craig Ferguson either!
I saw him on the Boston Pops 4th of July broadcast but otherwise am not familiar with him. (I know he has a late-night broadcast, but I've never seen it.)
>>How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved" >>category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)
>Rather than comparing seasons, I suppose people are comparing episodes >i.e. it improved from the pilot to the season finale? <shrug>
> This is the final ballot for the 2008-2009 Ratty Awards for the > rec.arts.tv newsgroup, as compiled by Robert Licuria.
> There were 32 voters in the nominations round this year, up from 28 > last year.
> Lost once again led all series in nominations this year, with 11. > However, NBC led all networks in nominations with a total of 31 > nominations spread among 10 shows.
> Welcome to the party ... or should that be "Welcome to the > Dollhouse"?: The most nominated new series was Dollhouse, with 7 > nominations including Best Series on Television. Other new series > making strong showings included True Blood with 6 nominations and > Fringe with 5 nominations.
> We'll miss you: The most nominated series to end its run in the > 2007-08 season was Battlestar Galactica, with 7 nominations.
> On the cusp: Among the shows that came close to nominations without > receiving any this year were Scrubs and Greek. While Dexter and ER > received one nomination each, they each came close to receiving more.
> Genre switch: Last year, Pushing Daisies competed in the SF > categories, but this year it is competing in the Comedy categories > because it received more votes for Best Comedy Series than Best SF > Series this year.
> Network switch: Friday Night Lights, which was listed as an NBC series > in previous years, switched in the 2008-09 season to airing on > DirecTV's 101 Network first, and then having its episodes broadcast on > NBC later. Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating > network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast > satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.
> On the other hand, Deal or No Deal aired both on NBC and in > syndication during the 2008-09 season, but with different episodes for > each. Therefore, both NBC and syndication receive credit for the > show's Ratty nominations this year, although those nominations happen > to be in the "Worst" categories.
> Nominations tally:
> The Best:
> 11: Lost (down 5)
> 9: Friday Night Lights (up 2), The Office (up 1)
> 7: 30 Rock (down 1), Battlestar Galactica (down 1), Breaking Bad (up > 6), Dollhouse, How I Met Your Mother (even)
> 6: Mad Men (up 4), The Shield (up 6), True Blood
> 5: Fringe, Pushing Daisies (up 1)
> 4: The Big Bang Theory (even), Big Love (up 2), Chuck (up 2), Grey > Gardens, Saturday Night Live (up 2)
> 3: Better Off Ted, Damages (down 1), Doctor Who (down 1), Into the > Storm, Sons of Anarchy
> 2: 24 (even from 2 years ago), The Colbert Report (even), The Daily > Show with Jon Stewart (even), Generation Kill, Little Dorrit, Parks > and Recreation, Prayers for Bobby, The Soup (up 2), Taking Chance
> 1: The Alzheimer's Project, The Amazing Race (even), Aqua Teen Hunger > Force (up 1), The Biggest Loser (up 1), Countdown with Keith Olbermann > (up 1), Desperate Housewives (down 4), Dexter (down 1), ER (up 1), > Frontline (up 1), Gossip Girl (down 2), King of the Hill (up 1), Late > Show with David Letterman (even), Life (even), The Life and Times of > Tim, Medium (down 1), My Name Is Earl (even), MythBusters (even), The > New Adventures of Old Christine (down 1), The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer > (up 1), Party Down, Reaper (even), The Simpsons (even), South Park > (even), Survivor (up 1), Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (down > 3), Top Chef (even), United States of Tara, Weeds (down 1), Wipeout, > Worst Week
> The Worst:
> 4: American Idol (up 2)
> 2: The Celebrity Apprentice (up 1), Deal or No Deal (up 1), Living > Lohan (up 2)
> 1: America's Next Top Model (up 1), CSI: Miami (even), Denise > Richards: It's Complicated (up 1), Do Not Disturb, Paris Hilton's My > New BFF
> The Worst: > Fox 5 (up 2) * NBC 4 (up 1) * E! 3 (up 3) * Syndication 2 (up 2) * CBS > 1 (even) * CW 1 (up 1) * MTV 1 (up 1)
> The following are the rules for this second stage of voting:
> * CAMPAIGNING IS ALLOWED. You may encourage people to vote in the > Rattys on other web sites, blogs, mailing lists, etc., or on other > television-related newsgroups, if you do so with good netiquette. In > fact, I am planning to campaign myself. However, please don't post the > ballot anywhere else, except with permission of one of the Ratty > Awards administrators. Just tell people they can find the ballot at > the rec.arts.tv newsgroup (you can provide a URL as a link).
> * In the final results posting, I will post the percentages received > by all nominees if and only if we receive ballots from more than 100 > voters.
> * Anyone reading this posting is eligible to vote, whether or not you > voted in the first round.
> * In each category, delete the four nominees you don't want to vote > for, leaving your one single vote in each category.
> * You don't have to vote in every category, but please try to vote in > as many categories as you can. If you are skipping a category, please > delete all of the nominees in that category.
> * Please try to keep spacing between each category to a minimum. All > we should see is the category title, next line your vote, a space, and > then the next category. This will help keep your ballot short.
> * The deadline to submit votes is Thursday, July 23, 2009, at 10:00 > p.m. (U.S. Pacific time).
> * Please send your ballot to robertlicu...@hotmail.com (if that e-mail > address has been obscured, that's robertlicuria AT hotmail DOT com). > You can also post your votes to the newsgroup if you want, but all > ballots must be e-mailed to me to be counted.
> * Thanks to everyone who voted. Now it's time to pick your winners.
> *** delete everything above this line*** > 15th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot > Reminder: send to robertlicu...@hotmail.com
> BEST COMEDY SERIES > 30 Rock (NBC) > The Big Bang Theory (CBS) > How I Met Your Mother (CBS) > The Office (NBC) > Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR > Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC) > Kyle Bornheimer as Sam Briggs - Worst Week (CBS) > Steve Carell as Michael Scott - The Office (NBC) > Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC) > Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS > Toni Collette as Tara Gregson - United States of Tara (Showtime) > Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC) > Anna Friel as Charlotte "Chuck" Charles - Pushing Daisies (ABC) > Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Christine Campbell – The New Adventures of Old > Christine (CBS) > Amy Poehler as Leslie Knope - Parks and Recreation (NBC)
> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR > Aziz Ansari as Tom Haverford - Parks and Recreation (NBC) > Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your Mother (CBS) > John Krasinski as Jim Halpert - The Office (NBC) > Chi McBride as Emerson Cod - Pushing Daisies (ABC) > Rainn Wilson as Dwight Schrute - The Office (NBC)
> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS > Kristin Chenoweth as Olive Snook - Pushing Daisies (ABC) > Portia de Rossi as Veronica Palmer - Better Off Ted (ABC) > Jenna Fischer as Pam Beesly - The Office (NBC) > Alyson Hannigan as Lily Aldrin - How I Met Your Mother (CBS) > Cobie Smulders as Robin Scherbatsky - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR > Will Arnett as Devon Banks - 30 Rock, "Do-Over" (NBC) > Creed Bratton as Creed Bratton - The Office, recurring (NBC) > Beau Bridges as Carl Hickey - My Name is Earl, "Monkeys Take a > Bath" (NBC) > Albert Brooks as Lenny Botwin – Weeds, recurring (Showtime) > Chris Parnell as Leo Spaceman - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)
> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS > Christine Baranski as Beverly Hofstadter - The Big Bang Theory, "The > Maternal Capacitance" (CBS) > Kristen Bell as Uda Bengt - Party Down, "Stennheiser-Pong Wedding > Reception" (Starz) > Sarah Chalke as Stella Zinman - How I Met Your Mother, recurring (CBS) > Amy Ryan as Holly Flax - The Office, recurring (NBC) > Lily Tomlin as Roberta Simmons - Desperate Housewives, recurring (ABC)
> BEST COMEDY EPISODE > 30 Rock, "Reunion" (written by Matt Hubbard, directed by Beth McCarthy- > Miller) (NBC) > Better Off Ted, "Racial Sensitivity" (written by Michael Glouberman, > directed by Paul Lazarus) (ABC) > The Big Bang Theory, "The Maternal Capacitance" (story by Chuck Lorre > & Bill Prady, teleplay by Richard Rosenstock & Steven Molaro, directed > by Mark Cendrowski) (CBS) > How I Met Your Mother, "The Naked Man" (written by Joe Kelly, directed > by Pamela Fryman) (CBS) > The Office, "Stress Relief" (written by Paul Lieberstein, directed by > Jeffrey Blitz) (NBC)
> BEST DRAMA SERIES > Big Love (HBO) > Breaking Bad (AMC) > Friday Night Lights (101 Network) > Mad Men (AMC) > The Shield (FX)
> BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR > Kyle Chandler as Eric Taylor - Friday Night Lights (101 Network) > Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX) > Bryan Cranston as Walter H. White - Breaking Bad (AMC) > Jon Hamm as Don Draper - Mad Men (AMC) > Damian Lewis as Charlie Crews – Life (NBC)
> BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS > Connie Britton as Tami Taylor - Friday Night Lights (101 Network) > Rose Byrne as Ellen Parsons - Damages (FX) > Glenn Close as Patty Hewes – Damages (FX) > Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO) > Jeanne Tripplehorn as Barb Henrickson - Big Love (HBO)
> BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR > Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX) > William Hurt as Daniel Purcell - Damages (FX) > Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman - Breaking Bad (AMC) > John Slattery as Roger Sterling - Mad Men (AMC) > Jimmy Smits as
David wrote: > On Jul 9, 9:34 pm, Dawnie <siokm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was >> going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed >> at tweens, so I totally skipped it.
> "True Blood" has become one of my > favorite shows. It's loaded with the sort of interesting, likable > characters I could watch do anything, it's funny, strange, has a good > mystery, is impossible to predict at any time what will happen next, > evokes a wonderful gothic atmosphere. The show's a real treasure.
What he said.
-- Mac Breck (KoshN) ------------------------------- "Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999) Durkani: It doesn't matter if they believe us. Sooner or later the truth's going to come out. The truth is.... Kendarr: ....out of fashion.