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Joshua Kreitzer  
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 More options Jul 8 2009, 11:25 pm
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From: Joshua Kreitzer <gromi...@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:25:39 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Jul 8 2009 11:25 pm
Subject: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
*** 15TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS ***

This is the final ballot for the 2008-2009 Ratty Awards for the
rec.arts.tv newsgroup, as compiled by Robert Licuria.

There were 32 voters in the nominations round this year, up from 28
last year.

Lost once again led all series in nominations this year, with 11.
However, NBC led all networks in nominations with a total of 31
nominations spread among 10 shows.

Welcome to the party ... or should that be "Welcome to the
Dollhouse"?: The most nominated new series was Dollhouse, with 7
nominations including Best Series on Television. Other new series
making strong showings included True Blood with 6 nominations and
Fringe with 5 nominations.

We'll miss you: The most nominated series to end its run in the
2007-08 season was Battlestar Galactica, with 7 nominations.

On the cusp: Among the shows that came close to nominations without
receiving any this year were Scrubs and Greek. While Dexter and ER
received one nomination each, they each came close to receiving more.

Genre switch: Last year, Pushing Daisies competed in the SF
categories, but this year it is competing in the Comedy categories
because it received more votes for Best Comedy Series than Best SF
Series this year.

Network switch: Friday Night Lights, which was listed as an NBC series
in previous years, switched in the 2008-09 season to airing on
DirecTV's 101 Network first, and then having its episodes broadcast on
NBC later. Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating
network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast
satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.

On the other hand, Deal or No Deal aired both on NBC and in
syndication during the 2008-09 season, but with different episodes for
each. Therefore, both NBC and syndication receive credit for the
show's Ratty nominations this year, although those nominations happen
to be in the "Worst" categories.

Nominations tally:

The Best:

11: Lost (down 5)

9: Friday Night Lights (up 2), The Office (up 1)

7: 30 Rock (down 1), Battlestar Galactica (down 1), Breaking Bad (up
6), Dollhouse, How I Met Your Mother (even)

6: Mad Men (up 4), The Shield (up 6), True Blood

5: Fringe, Pushing Daisies (up 1)

4: The Big Bang Theory (even), Big Love (up 2), Chuck (up 2), Grey
Gardens, Saturday Night Live (up 2)

3: Better Off Ted, Damages (down 1), Doctor Who (down 1), Into the
Storm, Sons of Anarchy

2: 24 (even from 2 years ago), The Colbert Report (even), The Daily
Show with Jon Stewart (even), Generation Kill, Little Dorrit, Parks
and Recreation, Prayers for Bobby, The Soup (up 2), Taking Chance

1: The Alzheimer's Project, The Amazing Race (even), Aqua Teen Hunger
Force (up 1), The Biggest Loser (up 1), Countdown with Keith Olbermann
(up 1), Desperate Housewives (down 4), Dexter (down 1), ER (up 1),
Frontline (up 1), Gossip Girl (down 2), King of the Hill (up 1), Late
Show with David Letterman (even), Life (even), The Life and Times of
Tim, Medium (down 1), My Name Is Earl (even), MythBusters (even), The
New Adventures of Old Christine (down 1), The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer
(up 1), Party Down, Reaper (even), The Simpsons (even), South Park
(even), Survivor (up 1), Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (down
3), Top Chef (even), United States of Tara, Weeds (down 1), Wipeout,
Worst Week

The Worst:

4: American Idol (up 2)

2: The Celebrity Apprentice (up 1), Deal or No Deal (up 1), Living
Lohan (up 2)

1: America's Next Top Model (up 1), CSI: Miami (even), Denise
Richards: It's Complicated (up 1), Do Not Disturb, Paris Hilton's My
New BFF

Network tally:
The Best:
NBC 31 (down 5) * HBO 23 (up 6) * ABC 21 (down 16) * Fox 17 (up 3) *
CBS 16 (down 1) * AMC 13 (up 10) * FX 12 (up 8) * Sci Fi 10 (down 3) *
101 Network 9 (up 9) * Comedy Central 5 (even) * PBS 4 (up 3) *
Showtime 3 (down 2) * CW 2 (down 3) * E! 2 (up 2) * Lifetime 2 (up 2)
* Bravo 1 (down 1) * Cartoon/Adult Swim 1 (even) * Discovery 1 (even)
* MSNBC 1 (up 1) * Starz 1 (up 1)

The Worst:
Fox 5 (up 2) * NBC 4 (up 1) * E! 3 (up 3) * Syndication 2 (up 2) * CBS
1 (even) * CW 1 (up 1) * MTV 1 (up 1)

The following are the rules for this second stage of voting:

* CAMPAIGNING IS ALLOWED. You may encourage people to vote in the
Rattys on other web sites, blogs, mailing lists, etc., or on other
television-related newsgroups, if you do so with good netiquette. In
fact, I am planning to campaign myself. However, please don't post the
ballot anywhere else, except with permission of one of the Ratty
Awards administrators.  Just tell people they can find the ballot at
the rec.arts.tv newsgroup (you can provide a URL as a link).

* In the final results posting, I will post the percentages received
by all nominees if and only if we receive ballots from more than 100
voters.

* Anyone reading this posting is eligible to vote, whether or not you
voted in the first round.

* In each category, delete the four nominees you don't want to vote
for, leaving your one single vote in each category.

* You don't have to vote in every category, but please try to vote in
as many categories as you can.  If you are skipping a category, please
delete all of the nominees in that category.

* Please try to keep spacing between each category to a minimum.  All
we should see is the category title, next line your vote, a space, and
then the next category.  This will help keep your ballot short.

* The deadline to submit votes is Thursday, July 23, 2009, at 10:00
p.m. (U.S. Pacific time).

* Please send your ballot to robertlicu...@hotmail.com (if that e-mail
address has been obscured, that's robertlicuria AT hotmail DOT com).
You can also post your votes to the newsgroup if you want, but all
ballots must be e-mailed to me to be counted.

* Thanks to everyone who voted.  Now it's time to pick your winners.

*** delete everything above this line***
15th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot
Reminder: send to robertlicu...@hotmail.com

BEST COMEDY SERIES
30 Rock (NBC)
The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
The Office (NBC)
Pushing Daisies (ABC)

BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC)
Kyle Bornheimer as Sam Briggs - Worst Week (CBS)
Steve Carell as Michael Scott - The Office (NBC)
Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)

BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Toni Collette as Tara Gregson - United States of Tara (Showtime)
Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC)
Anna Friel as Charlotte "Chuck" Charles - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Christine Campbell – The New Adventures of Old
Christine (CBS)
Amy Poehler as Leslie Knope - Parks and Recreation (NBC)

BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Aziz Ansari as Tom Haverford - Parks and Recreation (NBC)
Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
John Krasinski as Jim Halpert - The Office (NBC)
Chi McBride as Emerson Cod - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
Rainn Wilson as Dwight Schrute - The Office (NBC)

BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Kristin Chenoweth as Olive Snook - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
Portia de Rossi as Veronica Palmer - Better Off Ted (ABC)
Jenna Fischer as Pam Beesly - The Office (NBC)
Alyson Hannigan as Lily Aldrin - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
Cobie Smulders as Robin Scherbatsky - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)

BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Will Arnett as Devon Banks - 30 Rock, "Do-Over" (NBC)
Creed Bratton as Creed Bratton - The Office, recurring (NBC)
Beau Bridges as Carl Hickey - My Name is Earl, "Monkeys Take a
Bath" (NBC)
Albert Brooks as Lenny Botwin – Weeds, recurring (Showtime)
Chris Parnell as Leo Spaceman - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)

BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Christine Baranski as Beverly Hofstadter - The Big Bang Theory, "The
Maternal Capacitance" (CBS)
Kristen Bell as Uda Bengt - Party Down, "Stennheiser-Pong Wedding
Reception" (Starz)
Sarah Chalke as Stella Zinman - How I Met Your Mother, recurring (CBS)
Amy Ryan as Holly Flax - The Office, recurring (NBC)
Lily Tomlin as Roberta Simmons - Desperate Housewives, recurring (ABC)

BEST COMEDY EPISODE
30 Rock, "Reunion" (written by Matt Hubbard, directed by Beth McCarthy-
Miller) (NBC)
Better Off Ted, "Racial Sensitivity" (written by Michael Glouberman,
directed by Paul Lazarus) (ABC)
The Big Bang Theory, "The Maternal Capacitance" (story by Chuck Lorre
& Bill Prady, teleplay by Richard Rosenstock & Steven Molaro, directed
by Mark Cendrowski) (CBS)
How I Met Your Mother, "The Naked Man" (written by Joe Kelly, directed
by Pamela Fryman) (CBS)
The Office, "Stress Relief" (written by Paul Lieberstein, directed by
Jeffrey Blitz) (NBC)

BEST DRAMA SERIES
Big Love (HBO)
Breaking Bad (AMC)
Friday Night Lights (101 Network)
Mad Men (AMC)
The Shield (FX)

BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Kyle Chandler as Eric Taylor - Friday Night Lights (101 Network)
Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX)
Bryan Cranston as Walter H. White - Breaking Bad (AMC)
Jon Hamm as Don Draper - Mad Men (AMC)
Damian Lewis as Charlie Crews – Life (NBC)

BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Connie Britton as Tami Taylor - Friday Night Lights (101 Network)
Rose Byrne as Ellen Parsons - Damages (FX)
Glenn Close as Patty Hewes – Damages (FX)
Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO)
Jeanne Tripplehorn as Barb Henrickson - Big Love (HBO)

BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)
William Hurt as Daniel Purcell - Damages (FX)
Aaron Paul as Jesse Pinkman - Breaking Bad (AMC)
John Slattery as Roger Sterling - Mad Men (AMC)
Jimmy Smits as Miguel Prado – Dexter (Showtime)

BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Anna Gunn as Skyler White - Breaking Bad (AMC)
Cherry Jones as Allison Taylor – 24 (Fox)
Adrianne Palicki as Tyra Collette - Friday Night Lights (101 Network)
CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX)
Katey Sagal as Gemma Teller Morrow - Sons of Anarchy (FX)

BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Gaius Charles as Brian "Smash" Williams - Friday Night Lights,
recurring (101 Network)
John de Lancie as Donald Margolis - Breaking Bad, ...

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Mac Breck  
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From: "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 03:11:48 -0400
Local: Thurs, Jul 9 2009 3:11 am
Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
> *** delete everything above this line***
> 15th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot
> Reminder: send to robertlicu...@hotmail.com

> BEST COMEDY SERIES

The Big Bang Theory (CBS)

> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR

Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)

> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS

Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Christine Campbell - The New Adventures of Old
Christine (CBS)
You know how low you've gone when *my* pick is Julia Louis-Dreyfus???

> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR

Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)

> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Alyson Hannigan as Lily Aldrin - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)

> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR

Beau Bridges as Carl Hickey - My Name is Earl, "Monkeys Take a
Bath" (NBC)
You know how low you've gone when *my* pick is somebody from "My Name is
Earl" and I didn't even *watch* the show this season???

> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
> BEST COMEDY EPISODE

How I Met Your Mother, "The Naked Man" (written by Joe Kelly, directed
by Pamela Fryman) (CBS)

> BEST DRAMA SERIES
> BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
> BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
> BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
> BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
> BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
> BEST DRAMA EPISODE

*SHOULD* *HAVE* *BEEN* :
"For Warrick" (CSI)
*or*
"You'll Be the Death of Me" (True Blood)

> BEST SF SERIES

Doctor Who (Sci Fi)

> BEST SF LEAD ACTOR

David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)

> BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS

Anna Paquin as Sookie Stackhouse - True Blood (HBO)

> BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR

Ray Wise as the Devil - Reaper (CW)

> BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Summer Glau as Cameron Phillips - Terminator: The Sarah Connor
Chronicles (Fox)

> BEST SF GUEST ACTOR

Dean Stockwell as John Cavil - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci
Fi)

> BEST SF GUEST ACTRESS

Lizzy Caplan as Amy Burley - True Blood, recurring (HBO)

> BEST SF EPISODE

Doctor Who, "The Stolen Earth" (written by Russell T. Davies, directed
by Graeme Harper) (Sci Fi)

> BEST TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> BEST ACTOR - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> BEST ACTRESS - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)

> BEST PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL

Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)

> BEST REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)

Wipeout (ABC)

> BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)

Frontline (PBS)

> BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special)

The Simpsons (Fox)

> BEST NEW SERIES

True Blood (HBO)

> MOST IMPROVED SERIES

Saturday Night Live (NBC)

> BEST SERIES ON TELEVISION
> WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION

American Idol (Fox)

> WORST MALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION

David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)

> WORST FEMALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION

Paris Hilton as herself - Paris Hilton's My New BFF (MTV)

> *** delete everything below this line ***

Good God, you people nominated a lot of crap this year!!!

Toughest Categories:

> WORST MALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
> WORST FEMALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION

I had a tough time eliminating ANYBODY.

--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999)
Durkani: It doesn't matter if they believe us. Sooner or later the
truth's going to come out. The truth is....
Kendarr: ....out of fashion.


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Anim8rFSK  
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 More options Jul 9 2009, 10:43 am
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From: Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 07:43:03 -0700
Local: Thurs, Jul 9 2009 10:43 am
Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
In article <6pWdnbMU7LDvBcjXnZ2dnUVZ_h6dn...@supernews.com>,
 "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Good God, you people nominated a lot of crap this year!!!

There's only like 4 things outside of the sci-fi I've even seen.

So, my votes are officially up for sale, since I have no other criteria
to go by.

--
Uncle Jack: "Will, you're invisible!"
Will: "Invisible? I can't be! I can touch myself!"
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 More options Jul 9 2009, 11:06 am
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:06:01 -0500
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote in message

news:ANIM8Rfsk-7C51F4.07430309072009@news.dc1.easynews.com...

> In article <6pWdnbMU7LDvBcjXnZ2dnUVZ_h6dn...@supernews.com>,
> "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Good God, you people nominated a lot of crap this year!!!

> There's only like 4 things outside of the sci-fi I've even seen.

> So, my votes are officially up for sale, since I have no other criteria
> to go by.

I'm not even going to vote. This is why I gave up even nominating anything a
couple years ago. It wasn't worth the time or effort. I watch lots of stuff
but apparently not much of what the nominators watch. :)

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From: David <dimla...@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:06:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, Jul 9 2009 11:06 am
Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
On Jul 8, 11:25 pm, Joshua Kreitzer <gromi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
*** 15TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS ***
*** delete everything above this line***
15th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot
Reminder: send to robertlicu...@hotmail.com

BEST COMEDY SERIES
30 Rock (NBC)

BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
Steve Carell as Michael Scott - The Office (NBC)

BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC)

BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)

<good to see "Parks & Recreation" getting early recognition. Next year
will be its year, unless NBC cancels it>

BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cobie Smulders as Robin Scherbatsky - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)

BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
Creed Bratton as Creed Bratton - The Office, recurring (NBC)

BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
Kristen Bell as Uda Bengt - Party Down, "Stennheiser-Pong Wedding
Reception" (Starz)

<Amy Ryan should win but... it's Kristen Bell! I doubt many people
even saw this show but... it's Kristen Bell!>

BEST COMEDY EPISODE
Better Off Ted, "Racial Sensitivity" (written by Michael Glouberman,
directed by Paul Lazarus) (ABC)

<gotta admit this was the best episode of the five choices even though
I didn't vote for the show>

BEST DRAMA SERIES
The Shield (FX)

BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
Michael Chiklis as Vic Mackey - The Shield (FX)

BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
Glenn Close as Patty Hewes – Damages (FX)

BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
Walton Goggins as Shane Vendrell - The Shield (FX)

BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
CCH Pounder as Claudette Wyms - The Shield (FX)

BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
Scott Porter as Jason Street - Friday Night Lights, recurring (101
Network)

BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
Laurie Holden as Olivia Murray - The Shield, recurring (FX)

<weak category, but anyone who's been steamrolled by Vic Mackey should
qualify>

BEST DRAMA EPISODE
The Shield, "Family Meeting" (written by Shawn Ryan, directed by Clark
Johnson) (FX)

BEST SF SERIES
Lost (ABC)

<weird. For a long time I only had "The X-Files to vote for and then
"Lost." Now suddenly sci-fi categories have some tough choices>

BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
Josh Holloway as James "Sawyer" Ford - Lost (ABC)

<Sawyer had one of the all-time great character arcs this year>

BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS
Anna Paquin as Sookie Stackhouse - True Blood (HBO)

BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)

BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet Burke - Lost (ABC)

BEST SF GUEST ACTOR
Mark Pellegrino as Jacob – Lost, "The Incident" (ABC)

BEST SF GUEST ACTRESS
Jordana Brewster as Jill Roberts – Chuck, recurring (NBC)

<that's one I remembered after already sending the nominations>

BEST SF EPISODE
Lost, "This Place Is Death" (written by Edward Kitsis & Adam Horowitz,
directed by Paul A. Edwards) (ABC)

BEST TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Generation Kill (HBO)

BEST ACTOR - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Brendan Gleeson as Winston Churchill - Into the Storm (HBO)

BEST ACTRESS - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
Jessica Lange as "Big" Edith Bouvier Beale - Grey Gardens (HBO)

BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)

BEST PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
Tina Fey - Saturday Night Live (NBC)

<where's Will Ferrell as Bush??>

BEST REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
Wipeout (ABC)

BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
MythBusters (Discovery)

<"Wipeout" and "Mythbusters" in different categories... nice!>

BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special)
The Simpsons (Fox)

BEST NEW SERIES
True Blood (HBO)

MOST IMPROVED SERIES
24 (Fox)

BEST SERIES ON TELEVISION
Lost (ABC)

<No "Shield"? Having one of the best, most satisfying final seasons of
any show ever doesn't go as far as it used to. Or you're watching the
wrong things!>

WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION
Do Not Disturb (Fox)

<because it's actually trying to be a comedy while the other choices
are exactly what they're trying to be>

WORST MALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
Donald Trump as himself – The Celebrity Apprentice (NBC)

WORST FEMALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
Tyra Banks as herself – America's Next Top Model (CW)

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Patty Winter  
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From: Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com>
Date: 09 Jul 2009 15:47:38 GMT
Local: Thurs, Jul 9 2009 11:47 am
Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

I hope you folks who've been posting your ballots to r.a.tv
are remembering to also email them to Robert, or they won't
count! (And yes, I will strip out my extraneous comments
before I send this to him.)

In article <18fd7480-25c7-49b9-b4ca-1bcbfe595...@k19g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
Joshua Kreitzer  <gromi...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Network switch: Friday Night Lights, which was listed as an NBC series
>in previous years, switched in the 2008-09 season to airing on
>DirecTV's 101 Network first, and then having its episodes broadcast on
>NBC later. Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating
>network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast
>satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.

Interesting. A new twist on the importance of cable/satellite channels
such as USA and HBO.

>Network tally:
>The Best:
>NBC 31 (down 5) * HBO 23 (up 6) * ABC 21 (down 16) * Fox 17 (up 3) *

Well deserved recognition for HBO.

>BEST COMEDY SERIES

>BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR

>BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS

>BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR

>BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS

>BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR

>BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS

>BEST COMEDY EPISODE

I don't watch any of those comedies, so didn't vote in any
comedy categories.

>BEST DRAMA SERIES
>Big Love (HBO)

>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
>Damian Lewis as Charlie Crews – Life (NBC)

This show also gets my unofficial nomination for best
series finale this year.

>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
>Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO)

Tough choice here for me between Chloe Sevigny and Jeanne
Tripplehorn, but Sevigny had the more intense role this
season.

>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
>Jimmy Smits as Miguel Prado – Dexter (Showtime)

He usually plays such nice characters; it was interesting
seeing him turn ruthless.

>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Cherry Jones as Allison Taylor – 24 (Fox)

>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR

>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS

None of the nominees in thes two categories were in shows
I'd seen.

>BEST DRAMA EPISODE
>Big Love, "Come, Ye Saints" (written by Melanie Marnich, directed by
>Dan Attias) (HBO)

That was a very good episode. Tough times for Bill.

>BEST SF SERIES
>Doctor Who (Sci Fi)

>BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
>David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)

>BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS
>Anna Paquin as Sookie Stackhouse - True Blood (HBO)

>BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
>Nelsan Ellis as Lafayette Reynolds - True Blood (HBO)

>BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>Rutina Wesley as Tara Thornton - True Blood (HBO)

I know that "Lost" has more viewers, so I'm not getting my
hopes up about "Doctor Who" or "True Blood" winning any of
these categories. But hey, they asked for my vote. :-)

Another tough choice for me, since my other nominees (HBO's
"The Alzehimer's Project" and PBS's "Frontline") also made
the final cut. May I vote three times? :-)

>BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special)
>King of the Hill (Fox)

>BEST NEW SERIES
>True Blood (HBO)

>MOST IMPROVED SERIES
>24 (Fox)

How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved"
category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)


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Date: 9 Jul 2009 16:56:19 GMT
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

David wrote:
> On Jul 8, 11:25 pm, Joshua Kreitzer <gromi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> *** 15TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS ***
> *** delete everything above this line***
> 15th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot

If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.

1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.

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Date: 09 Jul 2009 17:03:12 GMT
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>,

Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.

>1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.

Oh, c'mon, Brian! Some of the regulars here already finked out
by not participating in the nominating round. We need the whole
gang for the voting phase!

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 13:17:55 -0400
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

Patty Winter wrote:
> In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>,
> Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.

>> 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.

> Some of the regulars here already finked out
> by not participating in the nominating round.

Meant to.  Didn't get a Round Tuit.

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Date: 9 Jul 2009 18:11:56 GMT
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

Patty Winter wrote:

> In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>,
> Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> > If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.

> > 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.

> Oh, c'mon, Brian! Some of the regulars here already finked out
> by not participating in the nominating round. We need the whole
> gang for the voting phase!

Not worth the risk.

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:11:19 -0700
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
In article <4a56111a$0$1605$742ec...@news.sonic.net>,
 Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:

> How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved"
> category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)

Especially given that all Dollhouse deserves isa  'Biggest crap in a
basket series destroying finale outside of Trek' award; I won't even be
watching it when it comes back.

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Date: 09 Jul 2009 19:33:26 GMT
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

In article <7bmq7cF241iv...@mid.individual.net>,

Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Patty Winter wrote:

>> In article <7bmlpiF23bif...@mid.individual.net>,
>> Default User <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> > If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.

>> > 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.

>> Oh, c'mon, Brian! Some of the regulars here already finked out
>> by not participating in the nominating round. We need the whole
>> gang for the voting phase!

>Not worth the risk.

Brian, I hate to break it to you, but you're already trapped
in the r.a.tv web of intrigue, so you might as well vote in
the RATTYs. :-)

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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

This is much larger than ratv. Trust me that you risk life and limb,
and worse -- jury duty. Voting in online polls is dangerous. Trust me.

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:56:08 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
On Jul 9, 12:56 pm, "Default User" <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> David wrote:
> > On Jul 8, 11:25 pm, Joshua Kreitzer <gromi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > *** 15TH ANNUAL RATTY AWARDS ***
> > *** delete everything above this line***
> > 15th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot

> If I were to vote[1] I'd vote about 60% like David.

Being 60% as good as me is nothing to be ashamed of.

> 1. But I won't, because that's how they get you.

The other 40% must contain the paranoia.

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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
On Jul 9, 3:35 pm, "Default User" <defaultuse...@yahoo.com> wrote:

But what if I need to "complete an offer"? Or I've "already won"??

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:34:03 +0800
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
On 09 Jul 2009 15:47:38 GMT, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com>
wrote:

This year's RATTYs has turned out to be the easiest for me to vote
for, no difficult choices at all. Completed and emailed in a couple of
minutes, tops.

>>Network switch: Friday Night Lights, which was listed as an NBC series
>>in previous years, switched in the 2008-09 season to airing on
>>DirecTV's 101 Network first, and then having its episodes broadcast on
>>NBC later. Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating
>>network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast
>>satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.

>Interesting. A new twist on the importance of cable/satellite channels
>such as USA and HBO.

If enough people had nominated LAW & ORDER:CI, it would have been
another example. And wow, nobody liked LEVERAGE enough, eh?

>I don't watch any of those comedies, so didn't vote in any
>comedy categories.

What comedies do you watch? Any British or Canadian ones to recommend?

>>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
>>Damian Lewis as Charlie Crews – Life (NBC)

>This show also gets my unofficial nomination for best
>series finale this year.

Me too. Though I'll miss THE UNUSUALS more.

>>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
>>Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO)

>Tough choice here for me between Chloe Sevigny and Jeanne
>Tripplehorn, but Sevigny had the more intense role this
>season.

I went Sevigny too, but I thought Tripplehorn was good in her
sister/mother/ brother-in-law storyline too.

>>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR

>>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS

>None of the nominees in thes two categories were in shows
>I'd seen.

You don't watch THE SHIELD? Apart from that, same goes for me. I did
vote for Jay Karnes though, since he apparently didn't get enough
nominations for the shows I did watch.

>I know that "Lost" has more viewers, so I'm not getting my
>hopes up about "Doctor Who" or "True Blood" winning any of
>these categories. But hey, they asked for my vote. :-)

No love for FRINGE 8-(.

BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was
going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed
at tweens, so I totally skipped it.

>>BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL

No love for Craig Ferguson either!

>>MOST IMPROVED SERIES
>>24 (Fox)

>How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved"
>category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)

Rather than comparing seasons, I suppose people are comparing episodes
i.e. it improved from the pilot to the season finale? <shrug>

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:39:07 -0400
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

Dawnie wrote:
> BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was
> going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed
> at tweens, so I totally skipped it.

Never saw Twilight.  Like True Blood.  No time to explain at the moment.

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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:58:18 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
On Jul 9, 9:34 pm, Dawnie <siokm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was
> going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed
> at tweens, so I totally skipped it.

"Twilight" is insultingly horrible. "True Blood" has become one of my
favorite shows. It's loaded with the sort of interesting, likable
characters I could watch do anything, it's funny, strange, has a good
mystery, is impossible to predict at any time what will happen next,
evokes a wonderful gothic atmosphere. The show's a real treasure.

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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:32:29 -0700
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
In article <v76d55dlu5tljjgpe9p2d403vr9u67c...@4ax.com>,

 Dawnie <siokm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>MOST IMPROVED SERIES
> >>24 (Fox)

> >How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved"
> >category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)

> Rather than comparing seasons, I suppose people are comparing episodes
> i.e. it improved from the pilot to the season finale? <shrug>

It did get better as it went, but they completely tanked the finale.

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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
On Wed, 8 Jul 2009 20:25:39 -0700 (PDT), Joshua Kreitzer

<gromi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>15th Annual Ratty Awards Ballot
>Reminder: send to robertlicu...@hotmail.com

>BEST COMEDY SERIES

30 Rock (NBC)

>BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR

Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC)

>BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS

Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC)

>BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR

Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)

>BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Kristin Chenoweth as Olive Snook - Pushing Daisies (ABC)

>BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR

Creed Bratton as Creed Bratton - The Office, recurring (NBC)

>BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS

Christine Baranski as Beverly Hofstadter - The Big Bang Theory, "The
Maternal Capacitance" (CBS)

>BEST COMEDY EPISODE

30 Rock, "Reunion" (written by Matt Hubbard, directed by Beth
McCarthy-Miller) (NBC)

>BEST DRAMA SERIES

Breaking Bad (AMC)

>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR

Bryan Cranston as Walter H. White - Breaking Bad (AMC)

>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR

Jimmy Smits as Miguel Prado – Dexter (Showtime)

>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Anna Gunn as Skyler White - Breaking Bad (AMC)

>BEST SF SERIES

Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)

>BEST SF LEAD ACTOR

Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)

>BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS

Mary McDonnell as Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)

>BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR

Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)

>BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS

Summer Glau as Cameron Phillips - Terminator: The Sarah Connor
Chronicles (Fox)

>BEST SF GUEST ACTOR

Dean Stockwell as John Cavil - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (SciFi)

>BEST SF GUEST ACTRESS

Kate Vernon as Ellen Tigh - Battlestar Galactica, recurring (Sci Fi)

>BEST SF EPISODE

Battlestar Galactica, "Daybreak" (written by Ronald D. Moore, directed
by Michael Rymer) (Sci Fi)

>BEST TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES

Generation Kill (HBO)

>BEST ACTOR - TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES

Alexander Skarsgard as Brad "Iceman" Colbert - Generation Kill (HBO)

>BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL

The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)

>BEST PERFORMANCE - VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL

Stephen Colbert - The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)

>BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)

Frontline (PBS)

>BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special)

The Simpsons (Fox)

>BEST NEW SERIES

Dollhouse (Fox)

>MOST IMPROVED SERIES

Dollhouse (Fox)

>BEST SERIES ON TELEVISION
Lost (ABC)

>WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION

Celebrity Apprentice (NBC)

>WORST MALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION

Donald Trump as himself – The Celebrity Apprentice (NBC)

>WORST FEMALE PERFORMER ON TELEVISION

Paris Hilton as herself - Paris Hilton's My New BFF (MTV)

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Date: 10 Jul 2009 04:38:11 GMT
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

In article <v76d55dlu5tljjgpe9p2d403vr9u67c...@4ax.com>,

Dawnie  <siokm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 09 Jul 2009 15:47:38 GMT, Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com>
>wrote:

> [attribution missing]
>>> Therefore, the 101 Network gets credit as the originating
>>>network in the Rattys, which makes it the first direct broadcast
>>>satellite channel to receive a Ratty nomination.

>>Interesting. A new twist on the importance of cable/satellite channels
>>such as USA and HBO.

>If enough people had nominated LAW & ORDER:CI, it would have been
>another example.

Eh? L&O: CI airs on USA, not a satellite-only channel.

>>I don't watch any of those comedies, so didn't vote in any
>>comedy categories.

>What comedies do you watch? Any British or Canadian ones to recommend?

Mostly reruns of "As Time Goes By." :-) And "Kingdom" is a comedy/drama.
I've also seen a sweet Canadian series called "Mixed Blessings," which
co-stars Gary Basaraba. But my TV watching is almost entirely dramas,
sci-fi, and news/public affairs.

>>Tough choice here for me between Chloe Sevigny and Jeanne
>>Tripplehorn, but Sevigny had the more intense role this
>>season.

>I went Sevigny too, but I thought Tripplehorn was good in her
>sister/mother/ brother-in-law storyline too.

Indeed. I'll be happy if either of them wins. I'm hoping for some
good news for them when Emmy time comes around, too.

>BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was
>going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed
>at tweens, so I totally skipped it.

Definitely not aimed at tweens! Much more adult and intense. I really
like how Alan Ball makes characters who are different but believable.

>>>BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL

>No love for Craig Ferguson either!

I saw him on the Boston Pops 4th of July broadcast but otherwise
am not familiar with him. (I know he has a late-night broadcast,
but I've never seen it.)

>>How can a new series ("Dollhouse") qualify in the "Most Improved"
>>category?? Seems like there's something wrong with the process here.)

>Rather than comparing seasons, I suppose people are comparing episodes
>i.e. it improved from the pilot to the season finale? <shrug>

Oh, maybe.

Patty


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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot

David wrote:
> On Jul 9, 9:34 pm, Dawnie <siokm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> BTW, what do you (and others) like about TRUE BLOOD? I thought it was
>> going to be something along the lines of the movie TWILIGHT and aimed
>> at tweens, so I totally skipped it.

> "True Blood" has become one of my
> favorite shows. It's loaded with the sort of interesting, likable
> characters I could watch do anything, it's funny, strange, has a good
> mystery, is impossible to predict at any time what will happen next,
> evokes a wonderful gothic atmosphere. The show's a real treasure.

What he said.

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Subject: Re: 15th Annual RATTY Awards Nominations List & Final Ballot
On Jul 10, 1:56 am, "Mr. Hole the Magnificent"

<Classic.Mr.H...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You people. Just shameful how pedestrian some of these choices are.

If you wanted the parakeet from "Gary Unmarried" to get to the final
round you should've participated.

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