http://www.networkdvd.net/index.php
Makes Spooks look like Red Riding Hood.
Let's see: in Red Riding Hood, a wolf kills and eats a little girl and her
grandmother, before being disemboweled with an axe, his belly filled with
stones, and being thrown in a river to drown. So the question is: was Callan
milder or stronger than that? (given that, to the best of my knowledge, that
series never aired in France, I'd like to know).
G�rard Morvan
"Kentoc'h Mervel!"
>
>Network have announced that the surviving monochrome episodes of
>Callan (Pilot, 2 <of 6> eps from season 1, 9 <of 15> eps from season
>2) will be released in Feb. 2010, with the colour episodes (all) to
>follow in May 2010.
>
>http://www.networkdvd.net/index.php
Cool.
>Makes Spooks look like Red Riding Hood.
I like Spooks. I'm waiting for the crossover episode where Ros Myers
whups Jack Bauer's arse.
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:: Makes Spooks look like Red Riding Hood.
:
: Let's see: in Red Riding Hood, a wolf kills and eats a little girl and
: her grandmother, before being disemboweled with an axe, his belly
: filled with stones, and being thrown in a river to drown. So the
: question is: was Callan milder or stronger than that? (given that, to
: the best of my knowledge, that series never aired in France, I'd like
: to know).
_Callan_ is grittier than _Spooks_, both in style and substance. "Red
Riding Hood" isn't an illuminating comparison for either. I've seen the
first three seasons of _Spooks_, and almost all of the surviving
episodes of _Callan_. While both series have their flaws, none of the
writing in _Spooks_ is as compelling as the writing in the color
episodes of _Callan_, and none of the acting in _Spooks_ is as intense
as the performances of Edward Woodward and Russell Hunter in _Callan_.
Having been spoiled by the more down-to-earth _Callan_, _The
Sandbaggers_, _Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy_, and _Smiley's People_,
it's difficult for me to take the glossier _Spooks_ seriously.
-Micky
Another show with a viral infection it seems........
"Callan had a series of bosses, all anonymously called Hunter, the
most memorable played to chilling effect by William Squire. Ronald
Radd and Derek Bond also held the position. The Hunter role is similar
to the post of Number 2 in The Prisoner (ITV, 1967-68) - a title of
authority given to a succession of nameless, calculating supervisors
who are all bent on maintaining authority by whatever means. The
resemblance between the two parts possibly reflects the involvement in
both shows of writer George Markstein, who had held a similar role in
Military Intelligence during World War II."
http://www.screenonline.org.uk/tv/id/550887/index.html
Even the bfi suffers from the inability to cope with the numbers that
make Markstein an under-16 Military Intelligence
Officer....... :-)))))
But I guess if Number Six could have been a Bomber pilot at 17, why
could not Markstein have been an Intelligence Officer at 14¾..... In
fan fiction you can make anything seem true.
ROFLMAO
Don't overestimate Markstein's importance. Callan was produced by ATV
(not ITC), a company that was distinguished by rough edges (on the
production side) and hard scripts; and first appeared in 1967, at
around the same time as The Prisoner. Doctor Who creator Sidney Newman
was heavily influential in creating a style for ATV that was less
glossy and more direct than the standard ITC formula. He created The
Avengers (not the over-produced Rigg/Thorson series), and Armchair
Theatre - which first showcased Callan under the auspices of original
Avengers producer Leonard White (his successor as Avengers producer -
John Bryce - produced John Thaw's first series, Redcap, for ATV).
The series was created by former Avengers writers James Mitchell and
Terence Feely,and produced by Feely and Lloyd Shirley (who served as
(executive) producer on Special branch The Sweeney. Rumpole, Minder,
and The Bill (amongst others) - frequently in partnership with DW
producer Verity Lambert.. Markstein became involved for the two
colour series produced by ABC's successor, Thames, from 1970 to 1972.
The show had made it's impact by then, and lost some of it's edge
(IMO).
> The show had made it's impact by then, and lost some of it's edge
> (IMO).
I think it only appears that way through familiarity and the move from b&w
to colour.
What Markstein brought to Callan was possibly the first ever instance on
television of what is now called a story 'arc'. Both The Prisoner and Callan
would have been lesser series without him.
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>> The show had made it's impact by then, and lost some of it's edge
>> (IMO).
>
>I think it only appears that way through familiarity and the move from b&w
>to colour.
>
>What Markstein brought to Callan was possibly the first ever instance on
>television of what is now called a story 'arc'. Both The Prisoner and Callan
>would have been lesser series without him.
>
>
Mitchell was responsible for the majority of Callan stories; and
series 2 had it's own 'story arc' which featured the deaths of two
Hunters. Markstein's first series as story editor followed on from
this, detailing Callan's reinstatement in the Section. The next 'arc'
followed in the final season with the Richmond stories.
Attributing Any of the success of the series to Markstein is merely a
matter of wishful thinking and ignorance of the original material.
> Attributing Any of the success of the series to Markstein is merely a
> matter of wishful thinking and ignorance of the original material.
You forgot to add IMO after that.
:-)
The context (which you snipped) made it unnecessary.
<restored for good measure>
<quote>
>>What Markstein brought to Callan was possibly the first ever instance on
>>television of what is now called a story 'arc'. Both The Prisoner and Callan
>>would have been lesser series without him.
>
>
>Mitchell was responsible for the majority of Callan stories; and
>series 2 had it's own 'story arc' which featured the deaths of two
>Hunters. Markstein's first series as story editor followed on from
>this, detailing Callan's reinstatement in the Section. The next 'arc'
>followed in the final season with the Richmond stories.
>Attributing Any of the success of the series to Markstein is merely a
>matter of wishful thinking and ignorance of the original material.
<unquote>
For further examples of 'arcs' you might look at series like Robin
Hood (ITC 1955-1960), Public Eye (ABC/Thames 1965-1975), Mogul/The
Troubleshooters (BBC 1965-1972), The Plane Makers/The Power Game (ATV
1965-1969), Doctor Who (BBC 1963-?), No Hiding Place
(Associated-Rediffusion 1959-1967).
ITC generally avoided story arcs in it's series; although The Saint
(ITC 1962-1969)The Baron (ITC 1965) and Man In A Suitcase (ITC 1967)
all have minor recurring storylines and characters which require
episodes to be watched in a fixed order for them to make sense.
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>:: Makes Spooks look like Red Riding Hood.
>_Callan_ is grittier than _Spooks_, both in style and substance. "Red
>Riding Hood" isn't an illuminating comparison for either. I've seen the
>first three seasons of _Spooks_, and almost all of the surviving
>episodes of _Callan_. While both series have their flaws, none of the
>writing in _Spooks_ is as compelling as the writing in the color
>episodes of _Callan_, and none of the acting in _Spooks_ is as intense
>as the performances of Edward Woodward and Russell Hunter in _Callan_.
Oooh, another series I should probably get my hands on, seeing as I
enjoy SPOOKS. Thanks for the comparison!