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Anim8rFSK
"Dough" <dhu...@charter.net> wrote:
> "grinningdemon" <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:58:21 -0500, "Christopher M."
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> >>"grinningdemon" <grinni...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
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> > At this point, it's more like Lois & Clark (The New Adventures of
> > Superman) than Smallville...and a lot of us think the name should have
> > changed to Metropolis a while ago...personally, I'm fine with the
> > change...but it you're the one deluding yourself if you don't think it
> > has shifted towards the Superman end of the spectrum.
>
> I'm having a prob thinking of ANY TV series that EVER successfully changed
> its title while still on the air... in fact, I can't think of a series that
> ever changed its title, successfully or not, while still on the air!
Hmm. "Burke's Law" became "Amos Burke Secret Agent" but I think that's
when it went into syndication. "The Virginian" became "The Men From
S.H.I.L.O.H."
I think the old SUPERBOY series changed it's title slightly when it
swapped actors.
There must be more than that . . .
Aha! ENTERPRISE finally added "Star Trek" after 2 years of crapfest,
when Paramount finally forced B&B to do it. Too little, too late.
I'm deliberately ignoring shows that append, like Survivor: Somoa or
Blah Blah Blah 2010. Or shows that go away and come back with 'New'
stuck on 'em.
Didn't "Valerie Harper" become "The Hogans" or something? I never saw
that. Note that so far I'm doing this from memory.
Must be more. Anybody?
rec.arts.tv added and subject line changed.
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> In article <jy_Lm.13429$gd1.4...@newsfe05.iad>,
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>
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> "Dough" <dhub...@charter.net> wrote:
> > I'm having a prob thinking of ANY TV series that EVER successfully changed
> > its title while still on the air... in fact, I can't think of a series that
> > ever changed its title, successfully or not, while still on the air!
>
> Hmm. "Burke's Law" became "Amos Burke Secret Agent" but I think that's
> when it went into syndication. "The Virginian" became "The Men From
> S.H.I.L.O.H."
>
> I think the old SUPERBOY series changed it's title slightly when it
> swapped actors.
>
> There must be more than that . . .
>
> Aha! ENTERPRISE finally added "Star Trek" after 2 years of crapfest,
> when Paramount finally forced B&B to do it. Too little, too late.
>
> I'm deliberately ignoring shows that append, like Survivor: Somoa or
> Blah Blah Blah 2010. Or shows that go away and come back with 'New'
> stuck on 'em.
>
> Didn't "Valerie Harper" become "The Hogans" or something? I never saw
> that. Note that so far I'm doing this from memory.
>
> Must be more. Anybody?
All in the Family became Archie Bunker's Place.
What was The Prisoner before it became The Prisoner? I forget.
Martin
Anlatt the Builder
Nothing. It was always The Prisoner. But it is seen as a conceptual
sequel to Secret Agent Man, which stareed the same actor.
Anim8rFSK
<0c1b60ad-b988-46b8...@f18g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Anlatt the Builder <tir...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Nov 15, 2:21�pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 6:14�am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
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> > > In article <jy Lm.13429$gd1.4...@newsfe05.iad>,
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> > > �"Dough" <dhub...@charter.net> wrote:
> > > > I'm having a prob thinking of ANY TV series that EVER successfully
> > > > changed
> > > > its title while still on the air... in fact, I can't think of a series
> > > > that
> > > > ever changed its title, successfully or not, while still on the air!
> >
> > > Hmm. �"Burke's Law" became "Amos Burke Secret Agent" but I think that's
> > > when it went into syndication. �"The Virginian" became "The Men From
> > > S.H.I.L.O.H."
> >
> > > I think the old SUPERBOY series changed it's title slightly when it
> > > swapped actors.
> >
> > > There must be more than that . . .
> >
> > > Aha! �ENTERPRISE finally added "Star Trek" after 2 years of crapfest,
> > > when Paramount finally forced B&B to do it. �Too little, too late.
> >
> > > I'm deliberately ignoring shows that append, like Survivor: Somoa or
> > > Blah Blah Blah 2010. �Or shows that go away and come back with 'New'
> > > stuck on 'em.
> >
> > > Didn't "Valerie Harper" become "The Hogans" or something? �I never saw
> > > that. �Note that so far I'm doing this from memory.
> >
> > > Must be more. �Anybody?
> >
> > All in the Family became Archie Bunker's Place.
> >
> > What was The Prisoner before it became The Prisoner? �I forget.
> >
> >
>
> Nothing. It was always The Prisoner. But it is seen as a conceptual
> sequel to Secret Agent Man, which stareed the same actor.
Which was of course called Danger Man before it was Secret Agent (no
'Man' except in the title) but those are really 3 different shows formed
around the same character, not a continuing series that simply changed
it's name.
Ubiquitous
I thought that was a different show with just Archie.
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Ubiquitous
>Didn't "Valerie Harper" become "The Hogans" or something? I never saw
>that. Note that so far I'm doing this from memory.
Yes, it changed a couple times, if memory serves.
Didn't Seinfeld used to be "The Seinfeld Chronicals"?
Rthrquiet
> ANIM8R...@cox.net wrote:
> >Didn't "Valerie Harper" become "The Hogans" or something? I never saw
> >that. Note that so far I'm doing this from memory.
>
> Yes, it changed a couple times, if memory serves.
>
From "Valerie" to "Valerie's Family" to "The Hogan Family," I think.
Michael
Dan Dassow
"Valerie" become "Valerie's Family" when Valerie Harper left the show.
It became "The Hogan Family" shortly thereafter.
Dan Dassow
Eric Ramon
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> "Dough" <dhub...@charter.net> wrote:
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> > > On Sat, 14 Nov 2009 20:58:21 -0500, "Christopher M."
>
> > >>"grinningdemon" <grinningde...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
the most obvious is "Saturday Night" which changed to become "Saturday
Night Live". I've always figured it was because the public can't keep
much information in its collective head. "Saturday Night" began
roughly at the same time as Howard Cosell's variety show which was
"Saturday Night Live". From the very beginning of SNL they used the
"Live from New York, it's Saturday Night!" line. When the Cosell show
folded and "Saturday Night" was still around, for some reason folks
confused the two titles and called the comedy show by the variety show
title. The tag line at the end of each week's first skit added to the
public's confusion.
For awhile they kept the name "Saturday Night" but eventually switched
it because so many people thought it had the extra word. Now it's
"SNL" for good but the original name can be heard in that tag line.
Ian J. Ball
web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote:
> Didn't Seinfeld used to be "The Seinfeld Chronicals"?
The original 1989 pilot used that series title.
But the show was significantly reworked from that (including changing
"Kesslar's" name to "Kramer"), so it's probably more helpful to almost
look at the eventual series as a complete reworking under a new title.
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Remysun
Threshold would have changed its title each year, from Threshold to
Foothold and Stranglehold. (wiki)
jdunlop
trying to think of others in prime time and am drawing a blank right
now, there are some in other time periods like AM America -->Good
Morning America.
Cosell's SNL was on first by a couple of weeks (and probably
trademarked the name) and the full name was "Saturday Night Live with
Howard Cosell". Wha'ts now SNL couldn't use "Saturday Night Live" for
a while so was officially "NBC's Saturday Night" when it started. I
vaguely remember some news stories about it, and if I get a chance,
I'll check in the SNL tell-all book to see if there's something about
this. I don't remember when it became Saturday Night Live, perhaps
somebody with the DVDs of the first few years could check, but it
wasn't during the first season, even after Cosell was cancelled.
Michael Black
> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> Didn't "Valerie Harper" become "The Hogans" or something? I never saw
>> that. Note that so far I'm doing this from memory.
>
> Yes, it changed a couple times, if memory serves.
>
> Didn't Seinfeld used to be "The Seinfeld Chronicals"?
>
Yes, when it was a summer series tryout. But then one could argue the
show changed with the title, since I thought the comedy club bumpers
disappeared when the "chronicles" part of the name was dropped. I'm
actually glad that bit was dropped, I found it intruded on the rest
of the show, even though the premise of the show was to act out the
"did you ever notice..." bits of the comedy routine.
Michael
Michael Black
> The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.) I'm
> trying to think of others in prime time and am drawing a blank right
> now, there are some in other time periods like AM America -->Good
> Morning America.
>
"Ellen", the sitcom, started out as "These Friends of Mine" or something
like that, though there were some changes (dropped characters, new
characters, a new work setting) along with the title, though it was't like
the example of "Archie's Place" where little of the old show remained.
I think there must be more examples, though none come to mind at the
moment. I think some of the shows that were on network tv and then
moved to syndication changed their titles with the syndication.
Michael
Remysun
spoofed a spinoff for The Pizza Place.
Anim8rFSK
Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, jdunlop wrote:
>
> > The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.) I'm
> > trying to think of others in prime time and am drawing a blank right
> > now, there are some in other time periods like AM America -->Good
> > Morning America.
> >
> "Ellen", the sitcom, started out as "These Friends of Mine" or something
> like that, though there were some changes (dropped characters, new
> characters, a new work setting) along with the title, though it was't like
> the example of "Archie's Place" where little of the old show remained.
Oh, yeah, that's a good call, they kept changing it as Ellen got more
and more offscreen power until there was nothing left but her, and it
wasn't funny any more.
Anim8rFSK
Invid Fan <in...@loclanet.com> wrote:
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-D76F4...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> I thought Danger Man was the UK title and they just changed the opening
> credits for the US Secret Agent version.
Nope. Different shows. The original Danger Man was half an hour. It
wrapped and came back a couple years later as the one hour Secret Agent.
Now, it's possible what you're saying is true about the one hour revival
show, but they're still definitely different series.
Remysun
Dan Lanciani
Seems like Mrs. Columbo went through several name changes until eventually
it wasn't even about a Columbo...
Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com
Martin Phipps
> The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.)
Homocide: Life on the Street essentially became Law and Order: SUV.
Oh and JAG was replaced by NCIS. Technically though these were spin
offs but the old show ended around the same time the new show began.
Martin
Ubiquitous
>The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.)
If memory serves, the former took place in Baltimore while the latter
took place in Boston.
Didn't they used to rename shows for syndication? I remember seeing ads
for "Happy Days Again" and "Lavern and Shirley and Company".
Anim8rFSK
ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote:
Ooooh, good call. There was something like Mrs. Columbo and Kate The
Detective and maybe Kate Loves a Mystery?
Windowwasher
"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote in message
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> jdu...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.)
>
> If memory serves, the former took place in Baltimore while the latter
> took place in Boston.
The Practice was set in Boston. It had crossovers with Ally McBeal also set
in Boston and on the same network, ABC, and a David E Kelley show.
Michael Black
>
> Nope. Different shows. The original Danger Man was half an hour. It
> wrapped and came back a couple years later as the one hour Secret Agent.
>
> Now, it's possible what you're saying is true about the one hour revival
> show, but they're still definitely different series.
>
The annual I got one Christmas was definitely titled "Danger Man", I think
I still have it somewhere around. But I would have gotten that after the
show was airing here in Canada (which I assume is the same period as
in the US), so I don't know if it was an old issue, or if they simply kept
the title, or maybe there was only one issue.
I wish I hadn't let my Captain Scarlett annual get away.
The episode I remember most of Danger Man/Secret Agent was the one where
Drake is undercover at a pirate radio station (on a platform off England),
and as I mentioned before, had that tiny tape recorder in the cigarette
package. They ought to air that episode right now, with that movie
currently playing about pirate radio.
Michael
Ubiquitous
wrote:
>"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>>The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.)
>>
>> If memory serves, the former took place in Baltimore while the latter
>> took place in Boston.
>
>The Practice was set in Boston. It had crossovers with Ally McBeal also set
>in Boston and on the same network, ABC, and a David E Kelley show.
Are you sure? I distinctly remember a lawyer show with Dylan McDermit that
was set in Baltimore.
Ubiquitous
> Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> "Ellen", the sitcom, started out as "These Friends of Mine" or something
>> like that, though there were some changes (dropped characters, new
>> characters, a new work setting) along with the title, though it was't like
>> the example of "Archie's Place" where little of the old show remained.
>
>Oh, yeah, that's a good call, they kept changing it as Ellen got more
>and more offscreen power until there was nothing left but her, and it
>wasn't funny any more.
Psst! Did you know that Ellen's a lesbian?
I heard that somewhere once and wondered why it was never discussed anywhere.
Tom
> On Nov 16, 11:39 am, jdunlop <jdun...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.)
>
> Homocide: Life on the Street essentially became Law and Order: SUV.
Well, not really. The only thing Homicide and SVU have in common is
Richard Belzer. That would be like saying The X-Files or The Simpsons
are spinoffs of Homiced because they both featured Belzer playing Det.
Munch.
Homocide and SVU weren't made by the same production companies.
SVU was a spin off of Law & Order, not Homicide.
Tom
Ubiquitous
>On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Ubiquitous wrote:
>> Didn't Seinfeld used to be "The Seinfeld Chronicals"?
>
>Yes, when it was a summer series tryout. But then one could argue the
>show changed with the title, since I thought the comedy club bumpers
>disappeared when the "chronicles" part of the name was dropped.
I don't think they ever quit opening with Seinfeld doing a partial
comedy club routine, at least not until very late in the series.
Ian J. Ball
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
That carried over between the two incarnations of the show.
But the comedy club routine in the original "The Seinfeld Chronicles"
pilot was *much* longer than the ones eventually used in the "Seinfeld"
series.
Also, by about season #4 or 5, they started phasing them out of
"Seinfeld", and I think they were totally absent from the later seasons.
Ubiquitous
>Also, by about season #4 or 5, they started phasing them out of
>"Seinfeld", and I think they were totally absent from the later seasons.
It's been awhile, but that's how I remember it too.
Anim8rFSK
They quit it earlier than that, because that's when I started watching,
when it became funny. His dreadful opener was, well, dreadful. It was
like they were setting up "this is a sitcom about the world's least
funny comedian" but never acknowleged it.
Anim8rFSK
Arrrr, pirates on a plaform off ye English coast matey . . .
Michael Black
I thought they did, but I can't be sure. I think they toned it down
if they didn't fully remove it.
Michael
Michael Black
> In article <9a-dnQZfYLvG45zW...@giganews.com>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> et...@ncf.ca wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>
>>>> Didn't Seinfeld used to be "The Seinfeld Chronicals"?
>>>
>>> Yes, when it was a summer series tryout. But then one could argue the
>>> show changed with the title, since I thought the comedy club bumpers
>>> disappeared when the "chronicles" part of the name was dropped.
>>
>> I don't think they ever quit opening with Seinfeld doing a partial
>> comedy club routine, at least not until very late in the series.
>
> They quit it earlier than that, because that's when I started watching,
> when it became funny. His dreadful opener was, well, dreadful. It was
> like they were setting up "this is a sitcom about the world's least
> funny comedian" but never acknowleged it.
>
That sort of fits what I said, that the original intent was that the
"show" was really little skits that played out what was said on stage.
Once the stage comedy disappeared or faded (and I honestly don't know
which), the "real life" could be played out much better. So instead
of "How about parking garages? Don't you hate having to find your car..."
and then we see the characters lost in a parking garage (and I can't
remember if that episode was one that relied on the stage comedy or not),
acting out the joke that was already said on stage. The stage was
supposed to be the comedy, the acting just a reinforcement. As the
stage became less significant, the comedy had to be in the acting.
Michael
steve march
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> In article <9a-dnQZfYLvG45zW...@giganews.com>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> et...@ncf.ca wrote:
>> >On Sun, 15 Nov 2009, Ubiquitous wrote:
>>
>> >> Didn't Seinfeld used to be "The Seinfeld Chronicals"?
>> >
>> >Yes, when it was a summer series tryout. But then one could argue the
>> >show changed with the title, since I thought the comedy club bumpers
>> >disappeared when the "chronicles" part of the name was dropped.
>>
>> I don't think they ever quit opening with Seinfeld doing a partial
>> comedy club routine, at least not until very late in the series.
>
> They quit it earlier than that, because that's when I started watching,
> when it became funny. His dreadful opener was, well, dreadful. It was
> like they were setting up "this is a sitcom about the world's least
> funny comedian" but never acknowleged it.
Ya. I recall commenting to a friend that I liked the show but his standup
never gave me so much as a chuckle.
Your Name
> Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:
>>
>> "Ellen", the sitcom, started out as "These Friends of Mine" or something
>> like that, though there were some changes (dropped characters, new
>> characters, a new work setting) along with the title, though it was't
like
>> the example of "Archie's Place" where little of the old show remained.
>
>Oh, yeah, that's a good call, they kept changing it as Ellen got more
>and more offscreen power until there was nothing left but her, and it
>wasn't funny any more.
And now to add to the confusion she's got a talkshow re-using the name
"Ellen".
Dough
"jdunlop" <jdu...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.) I'm
> trying to think of others in prime time and am drawing a blank right
> now, there are some in other time periods like AM America -->Good
> Morning America.
>
spinoff from The Practice (essentially a drama), but Spader was the only
regular cast member to make the transition... Shatner guested on the final 3
or 4 eps of Practice as it closed out. While both were law shows created by
the same man, they were as different as two law shows could be!
Dough
>
>>The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.)
>
> If memory serves, the former took place in Baltimore while the latter
> took place in Boston.
>
> Didn't they used to rename shows for syndication? I remember seeing ads
> for "Happy Days Again" and "Lavern and Shirley and Company".
>
Andy Griffith Show became Andy Of Mayberry in syndication...
Professor Bubba
<23099ddb-1279-401b...@j24g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
Tom <drs...@aol.com> wrote:
In 1989, an hour-long drama called Tattinger's suddenly became a
half-hour sitcom called Nick & Hillary. The retooled series lasted one
episode.
A 1972 sitcom called Temperatures Rising went through a number of title
and cast changes.
Professor Bubba
Ball <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
Seinfeld dropped "Chronicles" because a shortlived series called The
Marshall Chronicles premiered around the same time.
Invid Fan
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <161120090003002112%in...@loclanet.com>,
> Invid Fan <in...@loclanet.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <ANIM8Rfsk-D76F4...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> > Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Which was of course called Danger Man before it was Secret Agent (no
> > > 'Man' except in the title) but those are really 3 different shows formed
> > > around the same character, not a continuing series that simply changed
> > > it's name.
> >
> > I thought Danger Man was the UK title and they just changed the opening
> > credits for the US Secret Agent version.
>
> Nope. Different shows. The original Danger Man was half an hour. It
> wrapped and came back a couple years later as the one hour Secret Agent.
>
> Now, it's possible what you're saying is true about the one hour revival
> show, but they're still definitely different series.
Yes, but if the show was only ever called Danger Man in its home market
the UK and only ever called Secret Agent in the US, I'm not sure you
can call it a name change...
Ah, OK, Wki says the name did change in the US as some of the first
season was aired over the sumer as Danger Man. However, as an import
it's probably a special case.
--
Chris Mack *quote under construction*
'Invid Fan'
Michael Black
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>
>>> I'm having a prob thinking of ANY TV series that EVER successfully changed
>>> its title while still on the air... in fact, I can't think of a series
>>> that ever changed its title, successfully or not, while still on the air!
>
> Didn't Golden Girls change name/local after Bea Arthur left the show?
>
> But I think it only stayed on air for a season or so after that.
>
"The Golden Palace", I had to look up the title. I guess it depends on
how you qualify things. They buy a hotel, so the setting changes, but
three main characters remain, and get joined by Cheech.
Michael
Michael Black
It's complicated by a series that was filmed in black and white, and then
brought back a few years later in color. I think the premise was the
same, yet a gap of three years seems sufficient to give treat it like a
separate series.
Michael
Professor Bubba
<dhu...@charter.net> wrote:
Syndicators once believed (and perhaps networks required) that
syndicated reruns had to have different series titles if the series was
still in first-run. Fury was Brave Stallion, Gunsmoke was Marshal
Dillon, Dragnet was Badge 714, etc etc etc. The practice (which goes
back to the '50s) finally stopped when M*A*S*H went into syndication.
Andy of Mayberry was the title for the daytime reruns of The Andy
Griffith Show. CBS filled its morning schedule with prime time reruns.
There was The Dick Van Dyke Daytime Show, too.
Invid Fan
The first three seasons were in B&W, and the gap came between seasons
1&2. Season 4 ended after 4 color episodes when McGoohan quit to do The
Prisoner.
Ian J. Ball
That was a full-on spin-off (Don Cheadle was also in it), though, not a
name change.
Michael Black
Wasn't there also some regular shows that got renamed in the summer? I'm
not sure, and of course there were specific summer replacements for some
variety shows that had different titles and different guests, but might
be seen as the extension of the main show. Something like Glenn Campbell
having a summer show to fill the slot of The Smothers Brothers.
Michael
Professor Bubba
I think that was called the Glen Campbell Goodtime Hour, or something
like that. There were plenty of summer replacement series, but few
ever repeated the following year, and even fewer graduated to the fall.
Campbell's was one that did. Many summer series did seem related
somehow to whatever was in the timeslot during the fall. Then again,
The Prisoner replaced Jackie Gleason during the summer -- twice. Maybe
Gleason was really The Great Number One.
NBC would do stuff like Dean Martin Presents the Golddiggers during the
summer, and that was certainly an extension of the regular show even
though Dino was never there.
Steve Newport
-----------------------------------
And Jackie Gleason.
Fallen
Spader 'and' Rhona Mitra made the transition as full cast members but a
case can be made for Spin Off and Name Change really. They clearly used
season 8 of the Practice to set up Boston Legal, that's a little more
than a normal Spin Off to me.
I was actually a little annoyed that they kept using Practise recurring
actors in different roles during Boston Legal considering the
relationship between the two shows. Most of them totally pointless
changes too with the only exception I can think of being John
Larroquette. (They also used Peter Macnicol and some guest star actors
from Ally McBeal which is supposed to exist int he same television
universe too thanks to crossovers with The Practice).
Fallen.
Fallen
> In article <T6dMm.17242$ET3....@newsfe17.iad>, window...@nowhere.com
> wrote:
>
>>"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>>The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.)
>>>
>>>If memory serves, the former took place in Baltimore while the latter
>>>took place in Boston.
>>
>>The Practice was set in Boston. It had crossovers with Ally McBeal also set
>>in Boston and on the same network, ABC, and a David E Kelley show.
>
>
> Are you sure? I distinctly remember a lawyer show with Dylan McDermit that
> was set in Baltimore.
>
>
The 'Homicide' series' were set in Baltimore but weren't starring him.
All the DEk legal shows were set in Boston.
Fallen.
jdunlop
> On Nov 16, 11:39 am, jdunlop <jdun...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > The Practice became Boston Legal. (Essentially the same show.)
>
> offs but the old show ended around the same time the new show began.
>
> Martin
Homicide and SVU are covered in another message. JAG and Navy: NCIS
(hey, another name change!) were on together for one season before JAG
ended.
Bill Steele
Law became Amos Burke, Secret Agent.
Of course they changed the show, too. Nothing left but Gene
Barry and the character name. Lost everything that had made the show a
success.
Your Name
"Bill Steele" <ws...@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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Sounds excatly the same as what happened with "Battlestar Galactica" when it
changed to "Galactica 1980" for the 'second season' (unsurprisingly the last
season as well).
Anim8rFSK
Bill Steele <ws...@cornell.edu> wrote:
Yeah, I remember watching that as a kid, hoping he'd go back to LA one
day, but noooo.
I liked the 90's revival though.
--
Stargate Universe SGU: It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU!
Martin Phipps
Didn't the original Knight Rider become Team Knight Rider at some
point? And the original Battlestar Gallactica changed it's name when
they reached Earth, right? They added the date.
Martin
Your Name
"Martin Phipps" <martin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Didn't the original Knight Rider become Team Knight Rider at some
> point?
Not really. They were separate shows with different characters (among lots
of other idiotic changes).
> And the original Battlestar Gallactica changed it's name when
> they reached Earth, right? They added the date.
Yep, "Galcatica 1980", although technically I guess it would be a sequel
show, although it is often called season 2 of the original show and it did
have some of the same characters (if older).
Anim8rFSK
"Your Name" <your...@isp.com> wrote:
> "Martin Phipps" <martin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3670654d-895b-445c...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Didn't the original Knight Rider become Team Knight Rider at some
> > point?
>
> Not really. They were separate shows with different characters (among lots
> of other idiotic changes).
Yeah, TKR is an out of continuity spin-off.
>
>
>
> > And the original Battlestar Gallactica changed it's name when
> > they reached Earth, right? They added the date.
>
> Yep, "Galcatica 1980", although technically I guess it would be a sequel
> show, although it is often called season 2 of the original show and it did
> have some of the same characters (if older).
G1980 is harder to classify, but they changed the format SO much, I'd
call it a spin-off or sequel as well, and not a name change.
Your Name
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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> In article <he22ql$hdk$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz>,
> "Your Name" <your...@isp.com> wrote:
>
> > "Martin Phipps" <martin...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
news:3670654d-895b-445c...@a37g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > Didn't the original Knight Rider become Team Knight Rider at some
> > > point?
> >
> > Not really. They were separate shows with different characters (among
lots
> > of other idiotic changes).
>
> Yeah, TKR is an out of continuity spin-off.
> >
> >
> >
> > > And the original Battlestar Gallactica changed it's name when
> > > they reached Earth, right? They added the date.
> >
> > Yep, "Galcatica 1980", although technically I guess it would be a sequel
> > show, although it is often called season 2 of the original show and it
did
> > have some of the same characters (if older).
>
> G1980 is harder to classify, but they changed the format SO much, I'd
> call it a spin-off or sequel as well, and not a name change.
They did a similar, but less drastic, change with Buck Rogers as well
(wihtout changing the name). In the original series he was based on Earth,
but in next he was suddenly travelling on a science ship visting unknown
planets and picking up strange alien friends (probably where the guys got
the idea for Star Trek: Voyager from).
Captain Infinity
Your Name wrote:
>They did a similar, but less drastic, change with Buck Rogers as well
>(wihtout changing the name). In the original series he was based on Earth,
>but in next he was suddenly travelling on a science ship visting unknown
>planets and picking up strange alien friends (probably where the guys got
>the idea for Star Trek: Voyager from).
Yeah, that's where Voyager came from, because nobody ever traveled
through space meeting aliens before the 1979 version of Buck Rogers.
**
Captain Infinity
Anim8rFSK
"Your Name" <your...@isp.com> wrote:
Yeah, that was pretty dreadful.
Seapig
show or a sequel, but "Good Morning Miss Bliss" became "Saved by the
Bell" and later spawned a couple other incarnations.
Seapig
> In article <9a-dnQZfYLvG45zWnZ2dnUVZ_gFi4...@giganews.com>,
> They quit it earlier than that, because that's when I started watching,
> when it became funny. His dreadful opener was, well, dreadful. It was
> like they were setting up "this is a sitcom about the world's least
> funny comedian" but never acknowleged it.
How did you know that if you hadn't started watching yet?
Anim8rFSK
<f862e90b-dff2-461c...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
Seapig <sea...@altavista.com> wrote:
> On Nov 16, 9:19�am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <9a-dnQZfYLvG45zWnZ2dnUVZ gFi4...@giganews.com>,
>
> > They quit it earlier than that, because that's when I started watching,
> > when it became funny. �His dreadful opener was, well, dreadful. �It was
> > like they were setting up "this is a sitcom about the world's least
> > funny comedian" but never acknowleged it.
>
> How did you know that if you hadn't started watching yet?
I'd sampled, but never made it past the monolog. The first one I ever
watched all the way through was monolog free. Later, I caught some
monolog ridden repeats.
Anim8rFSK
<3df8d344-130c-442b...@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
Seapig <sea...@altavista.com> wrote:
Miss Bliss has to be considered an alternate reality.
Seapig
>
> Seapig <sea...@altavista.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 9:19 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article <9a-dnQZfYLvG45zWnZ2dnUVZ gFi4...@giganews.com>,
>
> > > They quit it earlier than that, because that's when I started watching,
> > > when it became funny. His dreadful opener was, well, dreadful. It was
> > > like they were setting up "this is a sitcom about the world's least
> > > funny comedian" but never acknowleged it.
>
> > How did you know that if you hadn't started watching yet?
>
> I'd sampled, but never made it past the monolog. The first one I ever
> watched all the way through was monolog free. Later, I caught some
> monolog ridden repeats.
IMO, the show was always funny, once (if) you got past the monologue.
I like Seinfeld's standup well enough, but never thought it could be
the basis of a sitcom, because it's mostly observations about the
banal. There's nothing there to build a story around. Supposedly,
"Seinfeld" was about nothing, but I think it was about something, and
that something was Larry David's sensibility much more than anything
Jerry Seinfeld brought to the party. I think they eventually figured
that out, and stopped trying to link their stories to Seinfeld talking
about losing socks in the dryer, or some such thing.
Seapig
>
> Seapig <sea...@altavista.com> wrote:
> > Like most of these, it's a judgment call as to whether it was the same
> > show or a sequel, but "Good Morning Miss Bliss" became "Saved by the
> > Bell" and later spawned a couple other incarnations.
>
> Miss Bliss has to be considered an alternate reality.
I didn't watch either show until the girls got old enough for me to
lust after without feeling too creepy. I know that "Miss Bliss" is
part of the syndication package, and that it's set in a different
place. Did they not make any effort to explain why some of the kids
moved to California?
Anim8rFSK
<c25ebd1f-dd0a-4848...@f1g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Seapig <sea...@altavista.com> wrote:
Wiki says Miss Bliss was somehow retconned to fit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Bliss#Good_Morning.2C_Miss_Bliss
but no details. We probably need Ian on this, but I'm sure it's not
reconcilable.
Ian J. Ball
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <c25ebd1f-dd0a-4848...@f1g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
> Seapig <sea...@altavista.com> wrote:
>
> > On Nov 19, 7:26�am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <3df8d344-130c-442b-88a1-577f3df5a...@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com>,
> > >
> > > �Seapig <sea...@altavista.com> wrote:
> > > > Like most of these, it's a judgment call as to whether it was the same
> > > > show or a sequel, but "Good Morning Miss Bliss" became "Saved by the
> > > > Bell" and later spawned a couple other incarnations.
> > >
> > > Miss Bliss has to be considered an alternate reality.
If so, then "The New Class" must be considered a Demon Dimension!!
> > I didn't watch either show until the girls got old enough for me to
> > lust after without feeling too creepy. I know that "Miss Bliss" is
> > part of the syndication package, and that it's set in a different
> > place. Did they not make any effort to explain why some of the kids
> > moved to California?
>
> Wiki says Miss Bliss was somehow retconned to fit
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Bliss#Good_Morning.2C_Miss_Bliss
>
> but no details. We probably need Ian on this, but I'm sure it's not
> reconcilable.
The 'retconning' was intros added to the beginning of "Miss Bliss"
reruns, with High School-aged Zack introing the "Miss Bliss" episodes
with a "This is what happened to me in Junior High..." teaser.
They don't explain the move from IN to CA. The show just ignores it.
It's just that Zach, Screech, Lisa and Mr. Belding are all magically at
Bayside High in CA, and Miss Bliss & Milo & the whole IN crew have
mysteriously vanished (and are never referenced again).
When I said that continuity in sitcoms, especially 'teen' sitcoms, annoy
the crap out of me, the various issues regarding the various
incarnations of "Saved by the Bell" are pretty much my EXHIBIT A!
Anim8rFSK
So where was Kelly the last half of Senior year, and how come biker
chick didn't graduate?
Dough
"Seapig" <sea...@altavista.com> wrote in message
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On Nov 19, 7:25 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <f862e90b-dff2-461c-a459-6b2de2345...@u36g2000prn.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Seapig <sea...@altavista.com> wrote:
> > On Nov 16, 9:19 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > In article <9a-dnQZfYLvG45zWnZ2dnUVZ gFi4...@giganews.com>,
>
> > > They quit it earlier than that, because that's when I started
> > > watching,
> > > when it became funny. His dreadful opener was, well, dreadful. It was
> > > like they were setting up "this is a sitcom about the world's least
> > > funny comedian" but never acknowleged it.
>
> > How did you know that if you hadn't started watching yet?
>
> I'd sampled, but never made it past the monolog. The first one I ever
> watched all the way through was monolog free. Later, I caught some
> monolog ridden repeats.
IMO, the show was always funny, once (if) you got past the monologue.
With, IMHO, the exception of the series finale... that, to me, was the most
bizarre misappropriation of power I've ever seen televised!
Christopher M.
> Like most of these, it's a judgment call as to whether it was the same
> show or a sequel, but "Good Morning Miss Bliss" became "Saved by the
> Bell" and later spawned a couple other incarnations.
I once knew a guy who named his boat Porcina Mare.
W. Pooh (AKA Winnie P.)
Ian J. Ball
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> So where was Kelly [AND Jessie!!] the last half of Senior year,
> and how come biker chick didn't graduate?
*Exactly*!!
Anim8rFSK
Unknown
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
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Jesse was in rehab. Kelly had given up the baby in time for graduation.
Anim8rFSK
wrote:
LOL, I forgot about Jessie the druggie. What was she addicted to,
No-Doze?
Unknown
Oh, and the biker chick got her GED in prison.
Anim8rFSK
Michael Black
>
>> And the original Battlestar Gallactica changed it's name when
>> they reached Earth, right? They added the date.
>
> Yep, "Galcatica 1980", although technically I guess it would be a sequel
> show, although it is often called season 2 of the original show and it did
> have some of the same characters (if older).
>
What about that Roy Scheider submarine show? "Seaquest", it changed after
the first season, and then in the third season changed its name.
Michael
Michael Black
What about "Star Trek"? WHat about "Space 1999"?
Michael
Your Name
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There are lots of them, with "Lost in Space" probably being the first
television version, but the idea probably goes back to Flash Gordon movie
serials, if not further back to a novel somewhere ... BUT the current
generation in Hollyweird is SO talentless and uncreative that they don't
look further than their own noses and childhoods, which is why I used Buck
Rogers as the possible origins of Voyager.
Your Name
SeaQuest DSV. I don't recall it changing its name (you may be right), but it
certainly changed it style and got very silly once the submarine started
jumping around space and time. Another case of the writers simply running
out of sensible ideas. :-\
Wickeddoll
It went from Seaquest DSV (deep sea vessel, IIRC) to Seaquest 2012, when
they decided to go with the time travel thing. Scheider left after S2 I
think, when he realized the show was going to be too silly.
Natalie
--
"Wicked little doll, you have no soul"
(David Byrne, 1997)
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Anim8rFSK
"Your Name" <your...@isp.com> wrote:
Nope, he's right; it became seaQuest 2032.
Wickeddoll
> "Your Name" wrote:
>
>> "Michael Black"
>>>>> And the original Battlestar Gallactica changed it's name when
>>>>> they reached Earth, right? They added the date.
>>>> Yep, "Galcatica 1980", although technically I guess it would be a sequel
>>>> show, although it is often called season 2 of the original show and it
>> did
>>>> have some of the same characters (if older).
>>>>
>>> What about that Roy Scheider submarine show? "Seaquest", it changed after
>>> the first season, and then in the third season changed its name.
>> SeaQuest DSV. I don't recall it changing its name (you may be right), but it
>> certainly changed it style and got very silly once the submarine started
>> jumping around space and time. Another case of the writers simply running
>> out of sensible ideas. :-\
>
> Nope, he's right; it became seaQuest 2032.
>
Oh yeah - I thought it was 2012, but now I remember that Lucas was
suddenly an adult, though he still looked like a kid.
:-P
Ian J. Ball
Wickeddoll <n...@chance.dude> wrote:
> Michael Black wrote:
> Your Name wrote:
> >>
> >>> And the original Battlestar Gallactica changed it's name when
> >>> they reached Earth, right? They added the date.
> >>
> >> Yep, "Galcatica 1980", although technically I guess it would be a sequel
> >> show, although it is often called season 2 of the original show and it
> >> did have some of the same characters (if older).
> >>
> > What about that Roy Scheider submarine show? "Seaquest", it changed
> > after the first season, and then in the third season changed its name.
>
> It went from Seaquest DSV (deep sea vessel, IIRC) to Seaquest 2012, when
> they decided to go with the time travel thing. Scheider left after S2 I
> think, when he realized the show was going to be too silly.
Yes. IIRC, he was replaced by Michael Ironside (of "V: The Series"
fame!!).
Ian (What is Michael Ironside up to these days, anyways? I've noticed
that he's been popping up a lot less on TV over the past 2 or 3 years...
:( )
Wickeddoll
> Wickeddoll wrote:
>
>> Michael Black wrote:
>> Your Name wrote:
>>>>> And the original Battlestar Gallactica changed it's name when
>>>>> they reached Earth, right? They added the date.
>>>> Yep, "Galcatica 1980", although technically I guess it would be a sequel
>>>> show, although it is often called season 2 of the original show and it
>>>> did have some of the same characters (if older).
>>>>
>>> What about that Roy Scheider submarine show? "Seaquest", it changed
>>> after the first season, and then in the third season changed its name.
>> It went from Seaquest DSV (deep sea vessel, IIRC) to Seaquest 2012, when
>> they decided to go with the time travel thing. Scheider left after S2 I
>> think, when he realized the show was going to be too silly.
>
> Yes. IIRC, he was replaced by Michael Ironside (of "V: The Series"
> fame!!).
>
>
> Ian (What is Michael Ironside up to these days, anyways? I've noticed
> that he's been popping up a lot less on TV over the past 2 or 3 years...
> :( )
>
According to IMDB, he's been doing PLENTY:
http://www.pro.imdb.com/name/nm0000461/
Natalie