"Revolution" Bullet, computer shortages?

[Rich]

1. Bullets are scarce? Why? The U.S. right now probably has a few
billion bullets out there. Only the militia is allowed to carry guns. So
why the shortage?

2. A guy finds a computer that appears to have been running (though it's
been burned and it could have been like that for 14 years and he's amazed.
Why? Did the 3 billion-odd computers on the planet somehow disappear when
the power ended? Hey! Maybe they recycled them all?

[anim8rFSK]

In article <_YOdnYvkJf5eN_bN...@giganews.com>,

I have NO idea how he could tell that was recently running or possibly
jumped to the conclusion that Grace built it, and has electricity. Even
if she DID build it recently (and not 15 years ago) she built it from 20
year old components, at best. It would have been easy for smart
producers to set something up ... like an electric soldering pencil,
plugged in to an outlet, with evidence of recent usage. That says
everything they wanted to say (except that Grace built it herself, which
is completely indefensible). Broken parts, not so much.

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

[RichA]

On Oct 2, 11:54 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <_YOdnYvkJf5eN_bNnZ2dnUVZ_t6dn...@giganews.com>,

>
>  Rich <n...@nowhere.com> wrote:
> > 1.  Bullets are scarce?  Why?  The U.S. right now probably has a few
> > billion bullets out there.  Only the militia is allowed to carry guns.  So
> > why the shortage?
>
> > 2.  A guy finds a computer that appears to have been running (though it's
> > been burned and it could have been like that for 14 years and he's amazed.
> > Why?  Did the 3 billion-odd computers on the planet somehow disappear when
> > the power ended? Hey!  Maybe they recycled them all?
>
> I have NO idea how he could tell that was recently running or possibly
> jumped to the conclusion that Grace built it, and has electricity.  Even
> if she DID build it recently (and not 15 years ago) she built it from 20
> year old components, at best.  It would have been easy for smart
> producers to set something up ... like an electric soldering pencil,
> plugged in to an outlet, with evidence of recent usage.

Presuming the average audience member even recognizes a soldering
iron, or station.

[shawn]

On Tue, 2 Oct 2012 22:13:36 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
wrote:

He could have said something about seeing a soldering iron setup with
solder on the tip that she must have used to work on the computer. A
sure sign that she must have been using it some time since after the
power went out. The point being they could have included something
that would spell out that this computer has been working recently but
they didn't do that since all we saw was a bunch of parts that could
have been there for some time. Heck even pointing out that there's no
dust on them would have said something.

[Obveeus]

"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> I have NO idea how he could tell that was recently running or possibly
> jumped to the conclusion that Grace built it, and has electricity. Even
> if she DID build it recently (and not 15 years ago) she built it from 20
> year old components, at best. It would have been easy for smart
> producers to set something up ... like an electric soldering pencil,
> plugged in to an outlet, with evidence of recent usage. That says
> everything they wanted to say (except that Grace built it herself, which
> is completely indefensible). Broken parts, not so much.

That is why this guy is a computer expert. He can tell how long ago it was
built by the amount of oxidizing of the solder points on the circuitboard
and he can tell it was homemade by what chips/components have been combined
on the same board. Both are perfectly reasonable conclusions without the
show having to dumb it down to the point of showing a still warm soldering
iron sitting on a desk.

[cloud dreamer]

Animalfucker is stretching it to nitpick at things regardless of how
stupid it is. His nitpicking just for the sake of nitpicking. Joke is on
him.

Heck, he can't figure out friction and expects to understand anything to
do with computers? LOL

..

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k4h96q$lsj$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

I tell you, it's those magic glasses of his.

[Obveeus]

Maybe he isn't near sighted or far sighted? Maybe he just has a depth of
field vision problem and those are 3D glasses? ;-)

Of course, there could be some actual plot reason for the silly glasses.
Maybe they made they from flat panes of glass to try and convey that the
glasses are homemade 15 years into the future or maybe the glasses are fake
because computer geek is actually an ultra-ninja expert that is only
undercover to infultrate the amulet society. With this show, anything is
possible, though I'm guessing that the real answer is simply that the actor
doesn't wear glasses and the director/stylist decided he needed them so as
to look geekier.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k4hk6l$rl5$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>

That last one, right there. Or he wears real glasses but they didn't
look stupid enough. And, seriously, after 15 years, why the Hell aren't
the temples taped up? I fail to understand why, in this day of 1 hour
glasses, and $7 glasses, they don't just get actors REAL glasses, even
if the correction needed is minuscule, rather than fight the fake lens
problems.

A story I've never gotten, re ADVENTURES OF SUPERMAN, is that in the
early years George wore fake flat lens glasses, but in later years as he
aged, he insisted on wearing his own real specs, which drove them crazy
as the real glasses caused reflection problems. Um ... isn't that
exactly backwards?

[Brian Thorn]

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 20:54:37 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:

>> 2. A guy finds a computer that appears to have been running (though it's
>> been burned and it could have been like that for 14 years and he's amazed.
>> Why? Did the 3 billion-odd computers on the planet somehow disappear when
>> the power ended? Hey! Maybe they recycled them all?
>
>I have NO idea how he could tell that was recently running

Possibly smell.

Brian

[Jim G.]

Obveeus sent the following on Wed, 3 Oct 2012 07:57:13 -0400:

> Both are perfectly reasonable conclusions without the
> show having to dumb it down

Why change now?

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Get down off the cross. We need the wood." -- Pete Lattimer, WAREHOUSE 13

[Mason Barge]

Again, who the heck would need to make a motherboard from scratch? There
would be hundreds of millions of them just lying around.

I've built computers and know a lot of people who have done so, but who
would make any sort of circuit board from scratch? Maybe Steve Wozniak in
the 80s could do it.

[Obveeus]

"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Again, who the heck would need to make a motherboard from scratch? There
> would be hundreds of millions of them just lying around.

Assuming that the electrisity turnoff event didn't also damage them, that
the scavengers have not melted down all the electronics for the gold/silver,
and that the local militia isn't confiscating all the dead electronics.

> I've built computers and know a lot of people who have done so, but who
> would make any sort of circuit board from scratch? Maybe Steve Wozniak in
> the 80s could do it.

The chemical etching bath sucks big time...so I don't know why anyone would
want to do it unless they had to.

Still, this is a complaint about the show simply because people don't want
to wait a few episodes and find out *why* there are not piles of electronics
laying around.

[Hunter]

On Tue, 02 Oct 2012 22:02:27 -0500, Rich <no...@nowhere.com> wrote:

>1. Bullets are scarce? Why? The U.S. right now probably has a few
>billion bullets out there. Only the militia is allowed to carry guns. So
>why the shortage?

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A lot of burn off during say 10 years of fighting I suspect
considering very few were being manufactured. I presume it takes
machines to make precision ammo for rmodern ifles and guns, especially
the smokeless gunpoweder that can't be made readily. On the other
hand you can make musket balls easily and quickly by hand. Just have a
mold to form the lead ball.

It also has to be remembered that they are talking about in the area
the Monroe Republic control which is from at least an area between
Chicago and Phillidelphia.

>
>2. A guy finds a computer that appears to have been running (though it's
>been burned and it could have been like that for 14 years and he's amazed.
>Why? Did the 3 billion-odd computers on the planet somehow disappear when
>the power ended? Hey! Maybe they recycled them all?

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Well there is no electricity so it shouldn't have been running in the
first place. I suspect that the Monrovians-or whoever is
responsible-destroyed/conficated all the computers which is why Grace
had to use spare parts.

------>Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

[BTR1701]

Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>> 2. A guy finds a computer that appears to have been running (though it's
>> been burned and it could have been like that for 14 years and he's amazed.
>> Why? Did the 3 billion-odd computers on the planet somehow disappear when
>> the power ended? Hey! Maybe they recycled them all?
> ------
> Well there is no electricity so it shouldn't have been running in the
> first place. I suspect that the Monrovians-or whoever is
> responsible-destroyed/conficated all the computers which is why Grace
> had to use spare parts.

Even if they did nothing but search exclusively for computers, they still
wouldn't have found them all by the time of the show.

[Greg Hanson]

Think of how many obsolete ones are buried in landfills, ready to be mined
out. Could they have confiscated all of *those*?

The best choices would be recent phones. Some people throw out last year's
model of iPhone when it still works perfectly. They're small, they're
portable, they don't need any big fixed infrastructure to use just for
computing (no genny or power grid made workey again with amulets), and
apparently phone batteries can't discharge *at all* while the jamming is in
effect, so if the battery was 78% full when the blackout happened it'll
still be 78% full. So as long as it was only just thrown away...

[anim8rFSK]

In article <k4m0r1$3c4$1...@news.mixmin.net>,

Hmm. Raises an interesting question; if you left your iPhone plugged
in, would it still be taking an invisible charge?