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bahai

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Nov 16, 2009, 5:58:14 AM11/16/09
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"Vandar" <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The Rock wrote:
>>
>>
>> "AnAmericanCitizen" <NoAm...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:chp1g59rd7rgvro5h...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>> Comments Blog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Top 10 reader comments about President Obama's bow to Japan's Emperor
>>>> Akihito
>>>> November 14, 2009 | 2:46 pm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> A post on our Top of the Ticket blog today about President Obama's
>>>> greeting of Japan's Emperor Akihito has already generated over 1,000
>>>> comments from readers.
>>>>
>>>> We mostly enjoyed what readers had to say about the president's
>>>> greeting -- a mixture of outrage and patriotism, snarky one-liners and
>>>> more serious diatribes.
>>>>
>>>> Here are the top 10 best comments so far:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mitch wrote: Obama to Emperor of Japan: "May I shine your shoes, Sir?"
>>>> Plain Jane wrote: Obama WASN'T bowing - He SAW a Japanese Yen on the
>>>> floor and went to pick it up because it might be Worth More Than Our
>>>> Dollar!
>>>> Veteran wrote: Was that before or after he appologized for World War 2?
>>>> bmcc wrote: Palin would have winked at him. You betcha!
>>>> Maripo wrote: I'm surprised he didn't curtsy.
>>>> MP wrote: Whatever happened to the good old days when we could count on
>>>> a Republican in the White House to puke on foreign dignitaries?
>>>> marty1234 wrote: I wish our first black president had been a rapper at
>>>> least he'd have some attitude...
>>>> Wax on wax off wrote: Look eye! Always look eye! -Mr. Miyagi
>>>> helen roach wrote: I wonder why they didn't run the dust mop over the
>>>> floor. It would have looked much nicer in the picture.
>>>> Xavier wrote: See, Obama is not a Muslim. He's a shintoist.
>>>
>>>
>>>> -- Kelsey Ramos - Los Angeles Times
>>
>>
>> Well, I guess you guys would prefer Bush's holding hand with Saudi king.
>> Pedophiles would find that more appealing.
>
> If you knew anything about accepted practices in other cultures, you'd
> know that in Saudi Arabian culture, it is not uncommon for male friends to
> hold hands.
> A POTUS bowing as would a subject of a foreign leader is a breach of
> protocol.

And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you would
admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a handshake in
Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject showing deference to a
monarch.

SaPeIsMa

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:42:08 AM11/16/09
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"bahai" <ba...@snotmail.com> wrote in message
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True
But how deeply you bow is a sign of rank
And a US President, or a representative of the President, is of EQUAL same
rank as the Emperor.
To bow deeper than the Emperor, is to recognize that you are of a lower rank
(Which in Obambi's case is probably true, even if he is hte Prez.)

ObamaNation Is An Abomination

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:41:22 AM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:14 -0500, "bahai" <ba...@snotmail.com>
wrote:


>And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you would
>admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a handshake in
>Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject showing deference to a
>monarch.
>

Take a look at these pictures of how other world leaders greeted the
Emperor:

http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/president-obama-vs-rest-of-world.html

You'll see that Obama bowed-and-scraped like a po'ch monkey.

clouddreamer

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:42:45 AM11/16/09
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Do you honestly have so little to nitpick about Obama that you have to
whine on how he greeted another world leader???

Get a grip.

..

--
We must change the way we live
Or the climate will do it for us.

ObamaNation Is An Abomination

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Nov 16, 2009, 10:51:27 AM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:12:45 -0330, clouddreamer
<Reuse....@nd.Reduce.now> wrote:

>ObamaNation Is An Abomination wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:14 -0500, "bahai" <ba...@snotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you would
>>> admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a handshake in
>>> Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject showing deference to a
>>> monarch.
>>>
>> Take a look at these pictures of how other world leaders greeted the
>> Emperor:
>>
>> http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/president-obama-vs-rest-of-world.html
>>
>> You'll see that Obama bowed-and-scraped like a po'ch monkey.
>
>
>Do you honestly have so little to nitpick about Obama that you have to
>whine on how he greeted another world leader???

Hell no.

There's his Marxism, his hate America mindset, his weakness against
our enemies, his racism ....

Just for starters.

Ubiquitous

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:53:51 PM11/16/09
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Reuse....@nd.Reduce.now wrote:

>Do you honestly have so little to nitpick about Obama that you have to
>whine on how he greeted another world leader???

Gee, I don't remember you feeling the same way when the Angry Left did the
same thing to George W Bush.

>Get a grip.

Physician, heal thineself.

--
It's now time for healing, and for fixing the damage the Democrats did
to America.


Lookout

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:01:11 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:42:08 -0600, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@HotMail.com>
wrote:

Depends on the society. That doesn't apply in international relations.
Unless, of course you can prove me wrong..find some International
Bowing Protocol book that defines this.

But you won't.

Lookout

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:02:51 PM11/16/09
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It's a blog spot and useless as any proof you dork. There is no way of
knowing if they bowed first and then shook hands.
Did you really think anyone would take this sources seriously?

ObamaNation Is An Abomination

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:06:01 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:02:51 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:41:22 GMT, BroJack...@usenet.org
>(ObamaNation Is An Abomination) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:14 -0500, "bahai" <ba...@snotmail.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you would
>>>admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a handshake in
>>>Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject showing deference to a
>>>monarch.
>>>
>>Take a look at these pictures of how other world leaders greeted the
>>Emperor:
>>
>>http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/president-obama-vs-rest-of-world.html
>>
>>You'll see that Obama bowed-and-scraped like a po'ch monkey.
>
>It's a blog spot and useless as any proof you dork. There is no way of
>knowing if they bowed first and then shook hands.

HAHAHAHAHA. The excuses keep a comin'.

>Did you really think anyone would take this sources seriously?

Everyone but the few remaining Kool-Aid drinkers.

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No Way losers

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Nov 16, 2009, 1:57:25 PM11/16/09
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problem being that he bows all the way over like a common peasant to his
king.
Men of good standing only slightly bow. But then that explains Obama and
his submission tactics.

No Way losers

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:21:41 PM11/16/09
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the cowardly socialist Ant American is just showing Japan how much he
hates America. He is sucking up. trying to ruin our standing in the
world as a world leader.
He is nothing less than a traitor

No Way losers

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Nov 16, 2009, 2:23:06 PM11/16/09
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yes , he needs to be brought into the light as the anti American coward
he is.
He is putting America off as inferior to every nation he bows to.
It is unacceptable to them and us.
Just look at the world leaders faces when he does this. they are
laughing at him.

clouddreamer

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:06:35 PM11/16/09
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Blah blah blah.

Lots of rhetoric. No substance. You sound like my 8 year old nephew.

I can assure you that not a single world leader is laughing at him. They
laughed at Bush. Are you so blinded by your ideology that you can't see
plain facts? Why do you have to lie and contort everything in order to
tear down Obama???

No one had to lie about Bush. Everything said about him could be backed up.

Sad that you're too blind to see the good that he is doing.

Not that I expect you to understand any of it. You're a rabid raving
lunatic who can only resort to rhetoric. Typical.

<plonk>

Lookout

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:07:15 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:21:41 -0600, No Way losers <nolo...@att.net>
wrote:

You're an idiot. Welcome to my filter

Lookout

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Nov 16, 2009, 3:08:54 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:01 GMT, BroJack...@usenet.org

Try using it on a college paper and see what happens.

ObamaNation Is An Abomination

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:02:30 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:08:54 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:06:01 GMT, BroJack...@usenet.org
>(ObamaNation Is An Abomination) wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:02:51 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:41:22 GMT, BroJack...@usenet.org
>>>(ObamaNation Is An Abomination) wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:14 -0500, "bahai" <ba...@snotmail.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you would
>>>>>admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a handshake in
>>>>>Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject showing deference to a
>>>>>monarch.
>>>>>
>>>>Take a look at these pictures of how other world leaders greeted the
>>>>Emperor:
>>>>
>>>>http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/president-obama-vs-rest-of-world.html
>>>>
>>>>You'll see that Obama bowed-and-scraped like a po'ch monkey.
>>>
>>>It's a blog spot and useless as any proof you dork. There is no way of
>>>knowing if they bowed first and then shook hands.
>>
>>HAHAHAHAHA. The excuses keep a comin'.
>>
>>>Did you really think anyone would take this sources seriously?
>>
>>Everyone but the few remaining Kool-Aid drinkers.
>
>Try using it on a college paper and see what happens.

You mean at a left-wing college where the females swoon and the males
get twitchy thighs at the thought of President Zero.

Hell, if Obama robbed a bank and killed the bank president, those
moonbats would say that he was robbing to give to the poor, and the
guy he killed was just a fat, white capitalist pig, so no big loss.

Lookout

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:37:30 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 21:02:30 GMT, ret...@cabin.org (ObamaNation Is An
Abomination) wrote:

No..I mean any college.
Oh..you never went to college (just like you never served in the
military) so you don't know shit about damn thing.


>
>Hell, if Obama robbed a bank and killed the bank president, those
>moonbats would say that he was robbing to give to the poor, and the
>guy he killed was just a fat, white capitalist pig, so no big loss.

You're lying again. Why do you lie so much?

Not Sure

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:40:03 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 7:42 am, clouddreamer <Reuse.Recy...@nd.Reduce.now> wrote:
> ObamaNation Is An Abomination wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:14 -0500, "bahai" <ba...@snotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> >> And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you would
> >> admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a handshake in
> >> Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject showing deference to a
> >> monarch.
>
> > Take a look at these pictures of how other world leaders greeted the
> > Emperor:
>
> >http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/president-obama-vs-rest-of-w...

>
> > You'll see that Obama bowed-and-scraped like a po'ch monkey.
>
> Do you honestly have so little to nitpick about Obama that you have to
> whine on how he greeted another world leader???

You would've been better off not responding, fatass. Now everyone
knows how upset this has made you :)

Not Sure

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Nov 16, 2009, 4:43:25 PM11/16/09
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On Nov 16, 12:06 pm, clouddreamer <Reuse.Recy...@nd.Reduce.now> wrote:
> No Way losers wrote:
> > clouddreamer wrote:
> >> ObamaNation Is An Abomination wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:58:14 -0500, "bahai" <ba...@snotmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
>
> >>>> And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you
> >>>> would admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a
> >>>> handshake in Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject
> >>>> showing deference to a monarch.
> >>> Take a look at these pictures of how other world leaders greeted the
> >>> Emperor:
>
> >>>http://hotairpundit.blogspot.com/2009/11/president-obama-vs-rest-of-w...

>
> >>> You'll see that Obama bowed-and-scraped like a po'ch monkey.
>
> >> Do you honestly have so little to nitpick about Obama that you have to
> >> whine on how he greeted another world leader???
>
> >> Get a grip.
>
> >>  ..
>
> > yes  , he needs to be brought into the light as the anti American coward
> > he is.
> > He is putting America off as inferior to every nation he bows to.
> > It is unacceptable to them and us.
> > Just look at the world leaders faces when he does this. they are
> > laughing at him.
>
> Blah blah blah.
>
> Lots of rhetoric. No substance. You sound like my 8 year old nephew.
>
> I can assure you that not a single world leader is laughing at him. They
> laughed at Bush. Are you so blinded by your ideology that you can't see
> plain facts? Why do you have to lie and contort everything in order to
> tear down Obama???
>
> No one had to lie about Bush. Everything said about him could be backed up.
>
> Sad that you're too blind to see the good that he is doing.
>
> Not that I expect you to understand any of it. You're a rabid raving
> lunatic who can only resort to rhetoric. Typical.
>
> <plonk>

Again, not a word about the subject at hand, just more hysterical anti-
Bush blather from the clown who never met a ham she didn't love. Take
a break, take a breath, and try again, and maybe next time you won't
do so much damage to Obama's side.

ObamaNation Is An Abomination

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Nov 16, 2009, 5:52:23 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 15:37:30 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Yo, bitch.

You alleged that the pics were doctored.

Prove it.

Show us pictures where the other leaders bowed-and-scraped like porch
monkeys.

Ubiquitous

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Nov 16, 2009, 7:52:43 PM11/16/09
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> W got a media pass for a much longer time. Inarguably.

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Nov 16, 2009, 7:57:19 PM11/16/09
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Excuses, excuses...

>Did you really think anyone would take this sources seriously?

No, just the rational thinking ones.

Lookout

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Nov 16, 2009, 8:39:18 PM11/16/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:52:23 GMT, ho...@home.net (ObamaNation Is An
Abomination) wrote:

No I didn't. You're lying again.


>
>Prove it.
>
>Show us pictures where the other leaders bowed-and-scraped like porch
>monkeys.

Don't have to. I said the blog pics are an incomplete snap shot, a
single picture from a long greeting e and therefore worthless.

So you're wrong again. Twice in one post!

Ubiquitous

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Nov 16, 2009, 9:32:27 PM11/16/09
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Reuse....@nd.Reduce.now wrote:

>Do you honestly have so little to nitpick about Obama that you have to
>whine on how he greeted another world leader???

You do realize that the Japanese are embarassed by what he did too?

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Ubiquitous

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>From: web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)
>You do realize that the Japanese are embarassed by what he did too?
>-------------------------------------
>Get a grip, heal thineself.

Your weak attempt at ducking the issue speaks volumes.

ObamaNation Is An Abomination

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:09:17 AM11/17/09
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On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:39:18 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Come on, cunt.

Show us the "complete" snap shot.

Lookout

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:14:52 AM11/17/09
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:09:17 GMT, ho...@home.net (ObamaNation Is An
Abomination) wrote:

"cunt"? AHAHAHA is that supposed to get me mad?

>Show us the "complete" snap shot.

There may not be one. So we don't know what happened.

ObamaNation Is An Abomination

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:00:26 AM11/17/09
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 08:14:52 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Still waiting for that proof.

Otherwise, we know exactly what happened

All of their poses are identical to Obama's .... except for the porch
monkey routine, cunt.

Lookout

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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:00:26 GMT, BroJack...@usenet.org

No, we don't.


>
>All of their poses are identical to Obama's .... except for the porch
>monkey routine, cunt.

Still on that childish cunt thing? No problem..welcome to my filter.
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ObamaNation Is An Abomination

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Nov 17, 2009, 11:28:59 AM11/17/09
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 10:23:50 -0600, Lookout <mrLo...@yahoo.com>
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Where's that proof, cunt?

Hell, even the leftist LA Times is complaining about the wimp.

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bahai

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"Vandar" <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> bahai wrote:
>
>>
>> "Vandar" <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hdraj6$53j$1...@news.albasani.net...

>>> A POTUS bowing as would a subject of a foreign leader is a breach of
>>> protocol.
>>
>>


>> And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you would
>> admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a handshake in
>> Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject showing deference to
>> a monarch.
>

> The degree of the bow means *everything*. A slight bow is acceptable.
> Bending yourself into an L shape when the other person doesn't bow at all
> is a sign of subservience.
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U6fL7Y4BZA
> The POTUS is not supposed to bow in such a manner to anyone, ever.

If this is such a horrible breach of protocol it should be easy for you to
cite chapter and verse from the big book of protocol where it says the
president should not bow. I mean it literally. Cite where it says anything
like that.

Come on. Put up or shut up. Or admit you are exceeding your capacity for
fecal matter.

Vandar

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Nov 17, 2009, 8:43:18 PM11/17/09
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bahai wrote:
>
> "Vandar" <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hdrdif$9qk$1...@news.albasani.net...
>
>> bahai wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Vandar" <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hdraj6$53j$1...@news.albasani.net...
>
>
>>>> A POTUS bowing as would a subject of a foreign leader is a breach of
>>>> protocol.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> And if you were not either ignorant or intentionally deceptive you
>>> would admit that in Asian cultures bowing is no different than a
>>> handshake in Western culture and has nothing to do with a subject
>>> showing deference to a monarch.
>>
>>
>> The degree of the bow means *everything*. A slight bow is acceptable.
>> Bending yourself into an L shape when the other person doesn't bow at
>> all is a sign of subservience.
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U6fL7Y4BZA
>> The POTUS is not supposed to bow in such a manner to anyone, ever.
>
>
> If this is such a horrible breach of protocol it should be easy for you
> to cite chapter and verse from the big book of protocol where it says
> the president should not bow. I mean it literally. Cite where it says
> anything like that.

Where did I mention anything about any book of protocol.
The President of the United States is not supposed to bow to ANY other
foreign leader. He is not their subject.

Now grow up.

trotsky

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Nov 17, 2009, 9:10:53 PM11/17/09
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From: web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)
>>See, it's not so hard to admit when I am right.

Steve Newport wrote:
> From: web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)
> See, it's not so hard to admit when I am right.


I didn't catch the first part: did he admit he was a horse's ass and a
troll?

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bahai

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>
> "Vandar" <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> news:hdvjfu$nf1$1...@news.albasani.net...


>> bahai wrote:
>>>
>>> "Vandar" <vand...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hdrdif$9qk$1...@news.albasani.net...

>>>> The POTUS is not supposed to bow in such a manner to anyone, ever.


>>>
>>>
>>> If this is such a horrible breach of protocol it should be easy for you
>>> to cite chapter and verse from the big book of protocol where it says
>>> the president should not bow. I mean it literally. Cite where it says
>>> anything like that.
>>
>> Where did I mention anything about any book of protocol.

To your discredit you didn't. Because you likely know full well there is no
rule of protocol rtegarding bowing that Obama breached except in your
fevered imagination.


>
>> The President of the United States is not supposed to bow to ANY other
>> foreign leader. He is not their subject.

Then give some reference where this alleged protocol is defined.
> >

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