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Ian J. Ball

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May 18, 2013, 12:36:01 PM5/18/13
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On a day I was probably best advised to "do stuff", but was just too
tired and watched TV instead, I watched...:

The Big Bang Theory (OnDemand) - "The Bon Voyage Reaction" (season
finale). This was just an OK effort. In later seasons, they really have
turned Sheldon from "clueless" to "asshole", though, haven't they?
Anyway, it looks like they've broken up Raj and his little annoying
girlfriend, so hopeful we'll be spared her being added to the full-time
cast next season... :/ (Though I did notice that Stuart was
shit-canned from the main cast with amazing alacrity this year!)

soaps: B&B - Bitch-nasty Steffi admits that she's a(n accidental) baby
killer. (And, apparently, the actress will be "taking a break" from the
show in July...)
Y&R - Whoa! I did not see this coming! - But are Summer and Kyle
*brother and sister*?!! (Nice of them to keep acknowledging Camryn
Grimes' Cassie after all these years - WEHT Camryn Grimes, anyway?!)
Meanwhile, is Michael going to cave, and bury the hatchet with Lauren?
DOOL - Crazy Gabi goes toe-to-toe with Sami and tells copper Hope
that "E.J. did it!!", but soon realizes that maybe creepy Nick was the
one who tried to kill Rafe afterall. There was also a bunch of stuff
with Krazy Kristin/John/Marlena, but I just don't care... :/

Sky High (Disney) - I was actually bored enough after soaps that I
watched this. You know, Mary Elizabeth Winstead actually does a pretty
good job in this. ;) (And, bonus! - there's actually an in-movie
reason why she looks way too old to be a "high schooler"!!)

Vamperifica (Chiller) - This was odd. In this flick, Dreama Walker's
flamboyantly gay best friend (Martin Yurkovic) is actually the
reincarnated soul of a vampire king, and is being stalked by two of the
original vampire king's lieutenants.
I liked about the first 30 minutes of this when the sad-sack gay best
friend was getting kicked around by life (big time!). But I think this
movie kind of lost it once the gay best friend was made into a full-on
vampire by his hot female lieutenant (Bonnie Swencionis - please get her
more parts! STAT!!). I'm still not even sure what this flick was trying
to say. And the attempts at humor basically fell flat once the flick
turned life-or-death with the lead becoming a murderous vampire. And I
didn't like the bitch-tacular ending either.
It looks like Chiller is doubling-up with another of these "vampire
horror/comedy" flicks next Friday, with "My Sucky Teen Romance"...

Nikita - "'Til Death Do Us Part" (season finale). Ultimately, I found
this finale to be quite disappointing. First, once again, Icebreaker
would have hated it because, by this point, Amanda (and The Shop) are
basically omniscient, with their plans never failing to come off. (How
they "framed" Nikita in this finale was completely ridiculous, and not
in a good way... :/ ) And then both ending 'twists', especially the
Nikita 'cliffhanger', basically sucked.
Let's hope this show does a better job with its final 6 episodes than
the original "La Femme Nikita" did. But, based on this finale, I'm not
too hopeful.

CSI (recorded) - "Skin in the Game" (season finale). As promised to me
in this newsgroup, Morgan (Elizabeth Harnois) goes *way* undercover to
catch one of the genre's tedious 'super genius' serial killers (this
time, it's Tim Matheson), while annoying reporter James Callis (who
should have been dead earlier in this episode for his total stupidity!)
looks on.
Of course, this all ends in a cliffhanger, with both Morgan, and
Brass' prodigal daughter Ellie (Teal Redmann (not actually seen in this
episode, though possibly heard in a V.O...); though the role was
actually first played by Nicki Aycox...), in mortal danger.

NCIS:LA (recorded) - "Descent" (season finale). A brutal, and rather
tedious, finale, as Christopher Lambert takes revenge on those who
"wronged" him, which of course includes G. Callan, which puts most of
the team in danger (this ends in torture for a couple of them...).
Most tediously, this ended in a cliffhanger (a *literal* one, for
Aunjanue Ellis...).

OK, I know we're getting in to Summer doldrums here but... come on! what
did you watch?!

--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!

anim8rFSK

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May 18, 2013, 1:14:57 PM5/18/13
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In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-719...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:

> On a day I was probably best advised to "do stuff", but was just too
> tired and watched TV instead, I watched...:
>
> The Big Bang Theory (OnDemand) - "The Bon Voyage Reaction" (season
> finale). This was just an OK effort. In later seasons, they really have
> turned Sheldon from "clueless" to "asshole", though, haven't they?

Oh yes

> Anyway, it looks like they've broken up Raj and his little annoying
> girlfriend, so hopeful we'll be spared her being added to the full-time
> cast next season... :/ (Though I did notice that Stuart was
> shit-canned from the main cast with amazing alacrity this year!)

Yeah, it was like they signed him for half the eps and used them all up
and *bam*

>
> Sky High (Disney) - I was actually bored enough after soaps that I
> watched this. You know, Mary Elizabeth Winstead actually does a pretty
> good job in this. ;) (And, bonus! - there's actually an in-movie
> reason why she looks way too old to be a "high schooler"!!)

I liked Sky High
>
> OK, I know we're getting in to Summer doldrums here but... come on! what
> did you watch?!

I finished the senses shattering two part sixth season finale of MURDOCH
MYSTERIES, where they tossed *so* many anachronistic inventions at us it
became self parody, and this week's CONTINUUM, which I enjoyed, despite
predicting what was going to happen at ever turn.

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

Ian J. Ball

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May 18, 2013, 1:24:18 PM5/18/13
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On May 18, 10:14 am, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:

> I finished the senses shattering two part sixth season finale of MURDOCH
> MYSTERIES, where they tossed *so* many anachronistic inventions at us it
> became self parody, and this week's CONTINUUM, which I enjoyed, despite
> predicting what was going to happen at ever turn

Some of us still have to wait until June 7 before we get our
"Continuum" season #2... :(

Mason Barge

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May 18, 2013, 2:04:20 PM5/18/13
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BBC America - SPIES OF WARSAW (miniseries) - ALAN FURST!!!1!
WOO-WOO! BBC did a 4-hour miniseries based on Alan Furst's
novels. Yeah of course it was great! And the adorable Janet
Montgomery looked even cuter than usual, as they didn't try to cover
up the natural lines/bags under her eyes, which gave her the perfect
world-weary forlorn look for a woman in Poland in 1937-39.

http://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.news/NEC4lJoodmp3FC_1_1.jpg

Look for this one come Emmys time.

Grade: A+

Short snatches of two Lifetime efforts, MURDER IN GREENWICH (the
adorable Maggie Grace) and MURDER IN SOME OTHER RICH SUBURB (with
Poppy Montgomery -- I had just forgotten how cute she was before her
looks went, but she was adorable getting murdered in 2006).

Grade: DNF, although the first one was actually not bad at all.

SOUL SURFER (HBO)
I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
feeling sorry for myself. Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
bikinis. Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?

This is now going on my official "Top Ten Guilty Pleasures" list.
Let's see how many I can name:

Soul Surfer
Roadhouse
Walking Tall (original)
Push
Starship Troopers
Pitch Black
Coyote Ugly
Dumb & Dumber
Legally Blonde
Crash (the first, really warped one)


anim8rFSK

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May 18, 2013, 3:42:38 PM5/18/13
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In article <21ffp8lj64lbu2tnh...@4ax.com>,
Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> BBC America - SPIES OF WARSAW (miniseries) - ALAN FURST!!!1!
> WOO-WOO! BBC did a 4-hour miniseries based on Alan Furst's
> novels. Yeah of course it was great! And the adorable Janet
> Montgomery looked even cuter than usual, as they didn't try to cover
> up the natural lines/bags under her eyes, which gave her the perfect
> world-weary forlorn look for a woman in Poland in 1937-39.
>
> http://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.news/NEC4lJoodmp3FC_1_1.jpg
>
> Look for this one come Emmys time.
>
> Grade: A+
>
> Short snatches of two Lifetime efforts, MURDER IN GREENWICH (the
> adorable Maggie Grace) and MURDER IN SOME OTHER RICH SUBURB (with
> Poppy Montgomery -- I had just forgotten how cute she was before her
> looks went, but she was adorable getting murdered in 2006).

No wonder her looks went!
>
> Grade: DNF, although the first one was actually not bad at all.
>
> SOUL SURFER (HBO)
> I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
> feeling sorry for myself. Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
> Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
> bikinis. Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?

This is why Ian so loved SURFACE.
>
> This is now going on my official "Top Ten Guilty Pleasures" list.
> Let's see how many I can name:
>
> Soul Surfer
> Roadhouse
> Walking Tall (original)
> Push
> Starship Troopers
> Pitch Black
> Coyote Ugly
> Dumb & Dumber
> Legally Blonde
> Crash (the first, really warped one)

I still have that on laser (unopened)

anim8rFSK

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May 18, 2013, 3:44:45 PM5/18/13
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In article
<0b412da9-97ac-4233...@ys5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Not so much 'have to' as 'choose to'

At least you have "Jack Hunter and the Lost Treasure of Ugarit" to keep
you warm.

Ian J. Ball

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May 18, 2013, 5:57:17 PM5/18/13
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On May 18, 12:42 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <21ffp8lj64lbu2tnhedqio1056a4j90...@4ax.com>,
>  Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > SOUL SURFER (HBO)
> >    I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
> > feeling sorry for myself.  Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
> > Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
> > bikinis.  Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?
>
> This is why Ian so loved SURFACE.

Specifically, "Surface" has *Leighton Meester and Lake Bell* in
bikinis.

"Soul Surfer" ain't got nothin' on that!! ;p

> > This is now going on my official "Top Ten Guilty Pleasures" list.
> > Let's see how many I can name:
>
> > Soul Surfer
> > Roadhouse
> > Walking Tall (original)
> > Push
> > Starship Troopers
> > Pitch Black
> > Coyote Ugly
> > Dumb & Dumber
> > Legally Blonde
> > Crash (the first, really warped one)

I agree with a lot of this list, but not "Crash" (which makes me want
to gouge my eyes out... :( ).

Mason Barge

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May 18, 2013, 6:18:53 PM5/18/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 12:42:38 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:

>In article <21ffp8lj64lbu2tnh...@4ax.com>,
> Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> BBC America - SPIES OF WARSAW (miniseries) - ALAN FURST!!!1!
>> WOO-WOO! BBC did a 4-hour miniseries based on Alan Furst's
>> novels. Yeah of course it was great! And the adorable Janet
>> Montgomery looked even cuter than usual, as they didn't try to cover
>> up the natural lines/bags under her eyes, which gave her the perfect
>> world-weary forlorn look for a woman in Poland in 1937-39.
>>
>> http://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.news/NEC4lJoodmp3FC_1_1.jpg
>>
>> Look for this one come Emmys time.
>>
>> Grade: A+
>>
>> Short snatches of two Lifetime efforts, MURDER IN GREENWICH (the
>> adorable Maggie Grace) and MURDER IN SOME OTHER RICH SUBURB (with
>> Poppy Montgomery -- I had just forgotten how cute she was before her
>> looks went, but she was adorable getting murdered in 2006).
>
>No wonder her looks went!
>>
>> Grade: DNF, although the first one was actually not bad at all.
>>
>> SOUL SURFER (HBO)
>> I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
>> feeling sorry for myself. Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
>> Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
>> bikinis. Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?
>
>This is why Ian so loved SURFACE.

I think that was me, actually.

>>
>> This is now going on my official "Top Ten Guilty Pleasures" list.
>> Let's see how many I can name:
>>
>> Soul Surfer
>> Roadhouse
>> Walking Tall (original)
>> Push
>> Starship Troopers
>> Pitch Black
>> Coyote Ugly
>> Dumb & Dumber
>> Legally Blonde
>> Crash (the first, really warped one)
>
>I still have that on laser (unopened)

Is yours as warped as mine? It makes it really hard to watch.

Mason Barge

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May 18, 2013, 6:22:18 PM5/18/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:57:17 -0700 (PDT), "Ian J. Ball"
<ijb...@mac.com> wrote:

>On May 18, 12:42 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
>> In article <21ffp8lj64lbu2tnhedqio1056a4j90...@4ax.com>,
>>  Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > SOUL SURFER (HBO)
>> >    I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
>> > feeling sorry for myself.  Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
>> > Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
>> > bikinis.  Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?
>>
>> This is why Ian so loved SURFACE.
>
>Specifically, "Surface" has *Leighton Meester and Lake Bell* in
>bikinis.

And they are so utterly awesome.


>"Soul Surfer" ain't got nothin' on that!! ;p

But . . . surfing!!!

*And* she gets her arm bitten off by a giant shark on camera. Cool!
In a cute bikini. Then you get to cry a lot if you want.

Leeton just got chased around by a cool baby monster a little.

>
>> > This is now going on my official "Top Ten Guilty Pleasures" list.
>> > Let's see how many I can name:
>>
>> > Soul Surfer
>> > Roadhouse
>> > Walking Tall (original)
>> > Push
>> > Starship Troopers
>> > Pitch Black
>> > Coyote Ugly
>> > Dumb & Dumber
>> > Legally Blonde
>> > Crash (the first, really warped one)
>
>I agree with a lot of this list, but not "Crash" (which makes me want
>to gouge my eyes out... :( ).

I plead guilty. But then . . .

anim8rFSK

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May 18, 2013, 6:54:37 PM5/18/13
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In article <ifvfp8ttjba8mmdop...@4ax.com>,
Heh. I was there for Large Breasted Girl.
>
> >>
> >> This is now going on my official "Top Ten Guilty Pleasures" list.
> >> Let's see how many I can name:
> >>
> >> Soul Surfer
> >> Roadhouse
> >> Walking Tall (original)
> >> Push
> >> Starship Troopers
> >> Pitch Black
> >> Coyote Ugly
> >> Dumb & Dumber
> >> Legally Blonde
> >> Crash (the first, really warped one)
> >
> >I still have that on laser (unopened)
>
> Is yours as warped as mine? It makes it really hard to watch.

Like I said, "unopened"

anim8rFSK

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May 18, 2013, 6:56:02 PM5/18/13
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In article
<7d455b5e-10f3-41f6...@ks18g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:

> On May 18, 12:42�pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <21ffp8lj64lbu2tnhedqio1056a4j90...@4ax.com>,
> > �Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > SOUL SURFER (HBO)
> > > � �I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
> > > feeling sorry for myself. �Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
> > > Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
> > > bikinis. �Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?
> >
> > This is why Ian so loved SURFACE.
>
> Specifically, "Surface" has *Leighton Meester and Lake Bell* in
> bikinis.

Yeah but your favorite ep was the Leighton Meester pool party.

~consul

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May 19, 2013, 1:11:38 PM5/19/13
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'tis on this 5/18/2013 12:36 PM, wrote Ian J. Ball thus to say:
> On a day I was probably best advised to "do stuff", but was just too
> tired and watched TV instead, I watched...:
>
> The Big Bang Theory (OnDemand) - "The Bon Voyage Reaction" (season
> finale). This was just an OK effort. In later seasons, they really have
> turned Sheldon from "clueless" to "asshole", though, haven't they?
> Anyway, it looks like they've broken up Raj and his little annoying
> girlfriend, so hopeful we'll be spared her being added to the full-time
> cast next season... :/ (Though I did notice that Stuart was
> shit-canned from the main cast with amazing alacrity this year!)

Him and the dog is gone too!
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>

Mason Barge

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May 19, 2013, 4:18:28 PM5/19/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 15:54:37 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
Yeah, I liked her, too. If you want to have a really stupid sci-fi
show, Surface is the way to go.

anim8rFSK

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May 19, 2013, 6:32:26 PM5/19/13
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In article <fqcip8d9nv29ihf13...@4ax.com>,
I liked Invasion (?) that season, too. The one that wasn't done by
Brannon Braga.

Mason Barge

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May 19, 2013, 7:17:27 PM5/19/13
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On Sun, 19 May 2013 15:32:26 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
Yeah, me too. It was a lot better, really, than Surface and I was
genuinely disappointed when it was cancelled.

anim8rFSK

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May 19, 2013, 9:23:06 PM5/19/13
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In article <ranip8ppevjsln76u...@4ax.com>,
At least we discovered Kari Matchett!

Arthur Lipscomb

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May 20, 2013, 2:43:48 AM5/20/13
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Was the Brannon Braga show the one with Brent Spiner and Peter Dinklage?
Threshold, I believe it was called. I thought it was really good; the
best of the three actually.

Ian J. Ball

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May 20, 2013, 9:01:01 AM5/20/13
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In article <kncgfl$g3i$1...@dont-email.me>,
It was the worst of the three, in my estimation, despite having a good
cast - primarily because "Threshold" generally played like a straight
'procedural' in most episodes. I usually found it to be really boring...
:/

Mason Barge

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May 20, 2013, 12:17:15 PM5/20/13
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To each his own. IIRC it was being rumored that it would be cancelled
after one or two episodes.

IIRC they burned off some episodes and finally dropped it completely
before the season order was done.

That said, I did watch it, but I wasn't thrilled.

Jim G.

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May 20, 2013, 1:09:24 PM5/20/13
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anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/19/2013 5:32 PM:
<sigh> I really liked INVASION, too, and I get depressed every time
someone reminds me of its quick death. Kinda like CULT in that regard.
Which I just reminded *myself* of, dammit.

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Can you and your stupid hair let us in?" -- Carlton Lassiter, PSYCH

Ian J. Ball

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May 20, 2013, 4:29:43 PM5/20/13
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In article <kndlfr$o3m$1...@dont-email.me>,
I'm more pissed about being denied the last episodes of "666 Park
Avenue" than "Cult" - "Cult" didn't seem to be going anywhere
(interesting...), but "666 P.A." was just getting good before ABC
shit-canned it. >:/


Ian (Why "Zero Hour" is getting a Summer 'burnoff', and "666 P.A." (and
"Don't Trust The B----...") aren't, I'll never know!... >:/ )

Mason Barge

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May 20, 2013, 5:22:39 PM5/20/13
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Yeah, that was just bad luck for everyone involved, including us.
Heck, considering all the low rated shows, it might have gotten a
second season.

anim8rFSK

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May 20, 2013, 7:29:48 PM5/20/13
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In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-4A1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:

I'm struggling through Don't Trust the Bitch in Apt 23 on Hulu; dear
God, what a horrible, horrible service. I tried to get it on the iPad;
they only have HuluPlus, and after installing it, it says I need the
latest Flash Player! Yes, Hulu actually makes an iPad player that
requires Flash! So I go digging for it on the MacBook, and get it
running, and it's this awful soft image that jerks and jolts, and if you
should have the temerity to pause it, it ... restarts by going to the
next program, so you have to go figure out what you were watching
manually and see the ads again.

Ian J. Ball

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May 20, 2013, 7:41:00 PM5/20/13
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On May 20, 2:22 pm, Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:29:43 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball-NO_S...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >In article <kndlfr$o3m...@dont-email.me>,
> > "Jim G." <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/19/2013 5:32 PM:
> >> > In article <fqcip8d9nv29ihf13mpl7r7njtl7ib9...@4ax.com>,
> >> >   Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 15:54:37 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> In article <ifvfp8ttjba8mmdop3tvvufhmv928kb...@4ax.com>,
> >> >>> Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 12:42:38 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>>>> In article <21ffp8lj64lbu2tnhedqio1056a4j90...@4ax.com>,
> >> >>>>> Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>>>>> SOUL SURFER (HBO)
> >> >>>>>>       I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
> >> >>>>>> feeling sorry for myself.  Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
> >> >>>>>> Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
> >> >>>>>> bikinis.  Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?
>
> >> >>>>> This is why Ian so loved SURFACE.
>
> >> >>>> I think that was me, actually.
>
> >> >>> Heh. I was there for Large Breasted Girl.
>
> >> >> Yeah, I liked her, too.  If you want to have a really stupid sci-fi
> >> >> show, Surface is the way to go.
>
> >> > I liked Invasion (?) that season, too.  The one that wasn't done by
> >> > Brannon Braga.
>
> >> <sigh> I really liked INVASION, too, and I get depressed every time
> >> someone reminds me of its quick death. Kinda like CULT in that regard.
> >> Which I just reminded *myself* of, dammit.
>
> >I'm more pissed about being denied the last episodes of "666 Park
> >Avenue" than "Cult" - "Cult" didn't seem to be going anywhere
> >(interesting...), but "666 P.A." was just getting good before ABC
> >shit-canned it.  >:/
>
> Yeah, that was just bad luck for everyone involved, including us.
> Heck, considering all the low rated shows, it might have gotten a
> second season.

According to a David post, up-newsgroup, "666 P.A." is going to get a
Summer burn-off afterall!! :D

David Barnett

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May 20, 2013, 8:20:16 PM5/20/13
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In article <ijball-NO_SPAM-4A1F64.13294320052013
@news.eternal-september.org>, ijball-...@mac.invalid
says...
<snip>
>
> I'm more pissed about being denied the last episodes of "666 Park
> Avenue" than "Cult" - "Cult" didn't seem to be going anywhere
> (interesting...), but "666 P.A." was just getting good before ABC
> shit-canned it. >:/

I can't understand why you did not get the episodes.
Our cable Channel (Showtime IIRC) aired them some time
ago.
Usually we get episodes after the US.

--
David Barnett

David Barnett

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May 20, 2013, 8:24:17 PM5/20/13
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In article <anim8rfsk-366145.16294820052013
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
Flash Player is incompatible with my Samsung Tablet.
Consequently I can't get some apps that my daughter can
get with her iPad. OTOH, vice versa also applies.

--
David Barnett

suzeeq

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May 20, 2013, 10:25:21 PM5/20/13
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They were holding them back until summer, they'll be on Saturdays.

anim8rFSK

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May 21, 2013, 3:59:43 AM5/21/13
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In article <MPG.2c0569ba6...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Flash isn't supported *at all* on the iPad.

Oh, and the volume is so low, I had to turn on the CC.

Mason Barge

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May 21, 2013, 9:48:18 AM5/21/13
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Yeah but I'm not going to watch it. It would make me too sad.

Mason Barge

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On Tue, 21 May 2013 00:59:43 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
I was just fittin' to say (as we say in Georgia). Apple is notorious
for abandoning Flash.

Adobe Flash is fairly horrible except for one thing: as a platform for
video. Which is exactly why Apple doesn't like it, since they want to
shove the inferior QuickTime down your throat (and put it on your
autostart menu without asking you first).

It's hard to pick someone to pull for. Apple = Evil Empire. Adobe =
Spawn of Satan. Problem is, they both write excellent software when
they stick to their specialties.

Jim G.

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Ian J. Ball sent the following on 5/20/2013 3:29 PM:
Yeah, that was a good show, too. It deserved a better fate and may have
had one on a different network. It's why I'd try to sell a show to NBC
(at the moment) first if I were peddling a show in Hollywood these days.
Start with the most desperate network, which should be the one willing
to be the most patient with less-than-stellar numbers, and all that.

Jim G.

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Mason Barge sent the following on 5/21/2013 8:48 AM:
Watch 'em. They're pretty darn good. Or so I hear, seeing as how I
couldn't possibly have seen them myself, or anything. ;)

Jim G.

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May 21, 2013, 3:09:23 PM5/21/13
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Mason Barge sent the following on 5/21/2013 8:54 AM:
> Problem is, they both write excellent software when
> they stick to their specialties.

Isn't this almost always the problem, though, and not just in software?
People do something well. Their business thrives. They get investors.
Those investors want a return. The market saturates as the original
product reaches everyone who wants it. The investors want more. The
investors call for mission creep. The business looks for new features or
other things that will increase growth and revenue streams. And the
cycle repeats. Then more mission creep. Then more. Then still more...

Mason Barge

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May 21, 2013, 3:43:12 PM5/21/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:09:23 -0500, "Jim G."
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

>Mason Barge sent the following on 5/21/2013 8:54 AM:
>> Problem is, they both write excellent software when
>> they stick to their specialties.
>
>Isn't this almost always the problem, though, and not just in software?

We're headed different directions here. I'm more concerned with the
problem that, say, Microsoft does *not* write excellent software.

If they didn't have a virtual monopoly, they'd be dead. Who knows,
maybe the Japanese (or even Chinese) will build an OS so good that
they will do to MS what they did to GM.

>People do something well. Their business thrives. They get investors.
>Those investors want a return. The market saturates as the original
>product reaches everyone who wants it. The investors want more. The
>investors call for mission creep. The business looks for new features or
>other things that will increase growth and revenue streams. And the
>cycle repeats. Then more mission creep. Then more. Then still more...

I understand. I will say, though, that Google has managed to keep
it's "mission creep" products at a very high standard. In fact, they
are wiping the floor with Microsoft in the smartphone OS market.

And what's more, Google actually understands customer service. I
actually had someone from Google call me up one day and spend half an
hour with me talking me through some things I didn't understand about
Google AdWords.

anim8rFSK

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May 21, 2013, 5:07:42 PM5/21/13
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In article <k6jnp8112kh6urjdi...@4ax.com>,
Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:09:23 -0500, "Jim G."
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Mason Barge sent the following on 5/21/2013 8:54 AM:
> >> Problem is, they both write excellent software when
> >> they stick to their specialties.
> >
> >Isn't this almost always the problem, though, and not just in software?
>
> We're headed different directions here. I'm more concerned with the
> problem that, say, Microsoft does *not* write excellent software.
>
> If they didn't have a virtual monopoly, they'd be dead.

Oh, I don't know. An amazing number of PC artists insist on using Corel
instead of Adobe products, even though Corel is objectively crap, and
yields objectively crap results, and pretty much if you find out there's
a Corel user in the pipeline on a project you have to increase the
budget to have someone redo their work properly. People buy bad
software, use bad software, and defend it vehemently, and I have no idea
why.

anim8rFSK

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May 21, 2013, 5:10:46 PM5/21/13
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In article <knggs0$6e7$1...@dont-email.me>,
Hey, that reminds me, is anybody else getting incessant spam about SELL
US YOUR IDEA FOR A NEW TV SHOW!?

David Barnett

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In article <anim8rfsk-DA91D6.00594321052013
Last week I just found I had a volume control on the top
of my tablet!

--
David Barnett

David Barnett

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In article <eoump8d4qh39rmtub...@4ax.com>,
mason...@gmail.com says...
>
> On Mon, 20 May 2013 16:41:00 -0700 (PDT), "Ian J. Ball"
> <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
>
> >On May 20, 2:22ᅵpm, Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 20 May 2013 13:29:43 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
> >> <ijball-NO_S...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> >> >In article <kndlfr$o3m...@dont-email.me>,
> >> > "Jim G." <jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/19/2013 5:32 PM:
> >> >> > In article <fqcip8d9nv29ihf13mpl7r7njtl7ib9...@4ax.com>,
> >> >> > ᅵ Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Sat, 18 May 2013 15:54:37 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> In article <ifvfp8ttjba8mmdop3tvvufhmv928kb...@4ax.com>,
> >> >> >>> Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>>> On Sat, 18 May 2013 12:42:38 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net>
> >> >> >>>> wrote:
> >> >> >>>>> In article <21ffp8lj64lbu2tnhedqio1056a4j90...@4ax.com>,
> >> >> >>>>> Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >>>>>> SOUL SURFER (HBO)
> >> >> >>>>>> ᅵ ᅵ ᅵ I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
> >> >> >>>>>> feeling sorry for myself. ᅵYet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
> >> >> >>>>>> Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
> >> >> >>>>>> bikinis. ᅵIs there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?
> >>
> >> >> >>>>> This is why Ian so loved SURFACE.
> >>
> >> >> >>>> I think that was me, actually.
> >>
> >> >> >>> Heh. I was there for Large Breasted Girl.
> >>
> >> >> >> Yeah, I liked her, too. ᅵIf you want to have a really stupid sci-fi
> >> >> >> show, Surface is the way to go.
> >>
> >> >> > I liked Invasion (?) that season, too. ᅵThe one that wasn't done by
> >> >> > Brannon Braga.
> >>
> >> >> <sigh> I really liked INVASION, too, and I get depressed every time
> >> >> someone reminds me of its quick death. Kinda like CULT in that regard.
> >> >> Which I just reminded *myself* of, dammit.
> >>
> >> >I'm more pissed about being denied the last episodes of "666 Park
> >> >Avenue" than "Cult" - "Cult" didn't seem to be going anywhere
> >> >(interesting...), but "666 P.A." was just getting good before ABC
> >> >shit-canned it. ᅵ>:/
> >>
> >> Yeah, that was just bad luck for everyone involved, including us.
> >> Heck, considering all the low rated shows, it might have gotten a
> >> second season.
> >
> >According to a David post, up-newsgroup, "666 P.A." is going to get a
> >Summer burn-off afterall!! :D
>
> Yeah but I'm not going to watch it. It would make me too sad.

The final episode has a sort of resolution.

--
David Barnett

Mason Barge

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On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:07:42 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
I was talking about Microsoft. Adobe's software within their
specialty, like Apple's, is very good.

I can't imagine a professional using Corel. It's actually great
software for what it is, but it's like comparing Wordpad to Word. It's
easier to use and a WHOLE lot cheaper. Let's see. Retail for
Photoshop, $600, for Paintshop Pro, $60.

Of course, Adobe tries to fool you into getting Creative Cloud. They
remind me of these DVD publishers who claim you don't own the DVD, you
only buy the right to watch it.

Jim G.

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May 21, 2013, 6:56:20 PM5/21/13
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Mason Barge sent the following on 5/21/2013 2:43 PM:
> On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:09:23 -0500, "Jim G."
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Mason Barge sent the following on 5/21/2013 8:54 AM:
>>> Problem is, they both write excellent software when
>>> they stick to their specialties.
>>
>> Isn't this almost always the problem, though, and not just in software?
>
> We're headed different directions here. I'm more concerned with the
> problem that, say, Microsoft does *not* write excellent software.
>
> If they didn't have a virtual monopoly, they'd be dead. Who knows,
> maybe the Japanese (or even Chinese) will build an OS so good that
> they will do to MS what they did to GM.
>
>> People do something well. Their business thrives. They get investors.
>> Those investors want a return. The market saturates as the original
>> product reaches everyone who wants it. The investors want more. The
>> investors call for mission creep. The business looks for new features or
>> other things that will increase growth and revenue streams. And the
>> cycle repeats. Then more mission creep. Then more. Then still more...
>
> I understand. I will say, though, that Google has managed to keep
> it's "mission creep" products at a very high standard. In fact, they
> are wiping the floor with Microsoft in the smartphone OS market.

I think that Android is far better than iOS, too, for that matter. But
the cult of Cupertino is much stronger than the cult of Redmond.

> And what's more, Google actually understands customer service. I
> actually had someone from Google call me up one day and spend half an
> hour with me talking me through some things I didn't understand about
> Google AdWords.

There's a lot to like about Google, but that doesn't include their
respect for privacy. And while I like a lot of their software, I'm
reluctant to put too many of my eggs in Google's basket, so I always
look at alternatives and resist jumping at another Google product.
That's why, to use the latest example, I'm in no hurry to leave Evernote
and embrace Google Keep.

Jim G.

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anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/21/2013 4:10 PM:
Nope. Either Gmail's spam filters are catching it or someone thinks that
you're far more creative than I am, you bragging braggy braggart.

anim8rFSK

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In article <MPG.2c06a6497...@news.eternal-september.org>,
hee hee

anim8rFSK

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In article <kngu8c$i37$7...@dont-email.me>,
hee hee

then again I get thousands of spams a week, so some of them are *bound*
to be fun.

anim8rFSK

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May 21, 2013, 8:47:56 PM5/21/13
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In article <kiunp8hu4fc10qov0...@4ax.com>,
Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:07:42 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <k6jnp8112kh6urjdi...@4ax.com>,
> > Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:09:23 -0500, "Jim G."
> >> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Mason Barge sent the following on 5/21/2013 8:54 AM:
> >> >> Problem is, they both write excellent software when
> >> >> they stick to their specialties.
> >> >
> >> >Isn't this almost always the problem, though, and not just in software?
> >>
> >> We're headed different directions here. I'm more concerned with the
> >> problem that, say, Microsoft does *not* write excellent software.
> >>
> >> If they didn't have a virtual monopoly, they'd be dead.
> >
> >Oh, I don't know. An amazing number of PC artists insist on using Corel
> >instead of Adobe products, even though Corel is objectively crap, and
> >yields objectively crap results, and pretty much if you find out there's
> >a Corel user in the pipeline on a project you have to increase the
> >budget to have someone redo their work properly. People buy bad
> >software, use bad software, and defend it vehemently, and I have no idea
> >why.
>
> I was talking about Microsoft. Adobe's software within their
> specialty, like Apple's, is very good.

I'm just saying that you can have terrible software, not anywhere near a
monopoly, and still thrive.
>
> I can't imagine a professional using Corel. It's actually great
> software for what it is, but it's like comparing Wordpad to Word. It's
> easier to use and a WHOLE lot cheaper. Let's see. Retail for
> Photoshop, $600, for Paintshop Pro, $60.

I'm horrified every time I run up against it.

> Of course, Adobe tries to fool you into getting Creative Cloud. They
> remind me of these DVD publishers who claim you don't own the DVD, you
> only buy the right to watch it.

You do realize Creative Cloud is *all* you can get now? No more
fooling; it's CC or nothing.

BTR1701

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May 21, 2013, 11:18:19 PM5/21/13
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In article <k6jnp8112kh6urjdi...@4ax.com>,
Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2013 14:09:23 -0500, "Jim G."
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> >Mason Barge sent the following on 5/21/2013 8:54 AM:
> >> Problem is, they both write excellent software when
> >> they stick to their specialties.
> >
> >Isn't this almost always the problem, though, and not just in software?
>
> We're headed different directions here. I'm more concerned with the
> problem that, say, Microsoft does *not* write excellent software.
>
> If they didn't have a virtual monopoly, they'd be dead. Who knows,
> maybe the Japanese (or even Chinese) will build an OS so good that
> they will do to MS what they did to GM.
>
> >People do something well. Their business thrives. They get investors.
> >Those investors want a return. The market saturates as the original
> >product reaches everyone who wants it. The investors want more. The
> >investors call for mission creep. The business looks for new features or
> >other things that will increase growth and revenue streams. And the
> >cycle repeats. Then more mission creep. Then more. Then still more...
>
> I understand. I will say, though, that Google has managed to keep
> it's "mission creep" products at a very high standard. In fact, they
> are wiping the floor with Microsoft in the smartphone OS market.
>
> And what's more, Google actually understands customer service.

Umm... not really. Google is notorious for its near complete lack of
customer service. It's virtually impossible to get anyone on the phone
at Google, or even have a real-person email exchange with them.

If you get penalized for violating one of their search engine
optimization rules, you'd have more luck shouting at a cement wall than
trying to get anything beyond their standard boilerplate violation
notice from them.

Same goes with YouTube, which Google owns. If your video is removed for
any of a variety of reasons, there's little to no recourse, even if it's
Google's mistake.

> I actually had someone from Google call me up one day and spend half an
> hour with me talking me through some things I didn't understand about
> Google AdWords.

You apparently had a very rare experience.

Mason Barge

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May 22, 2013, 1:30:32 PM5/22/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:47:56 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net>
I wondered about that. Apparently, you *can* still buy CS6 products;
it's just the last standalone version Adobe plans to sell.

I am wondering how this will go over. We now have two near-monopoly
software companies royally pissing off a large number of customers.

This could, ultimately, lead to a serious revision of intellectual
property law in the US. If you remember back some years ago, one of
the proposed remedies in the Microsoft antitrust litigation was to
force them to make the kernal of Win 3.1 available to other software
companies for a reasonable licensing fee.

Mason Barge

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May 22, 2013, 1:34:46 PM5/22/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 17:56:20 -0500, "Jim G."
I agree. #1 search engine, #1 smartphone OS and #1 internet browser
is enough.

They aren't angels. They just have, for the time being, better
software and better management.

Mason Barge

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May 22, 2013, 1:37:50 PM5/22/13
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I watch this closely and as far as I am concerned, they are completely
justified. I actually *prefer* that they don't give away their
algorithm changes to the people most likely to abuse such information.

BTR1701

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May 22, 2013, 2:27:28 PM5/22/13
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No one's saying they should give away trade secrets, but they provide
absolutely no ability to contact the company in a customer service context.

They are human beings, too, after all, and they do sometimes fuck up, and
it would be nice if customers were able to contact them about it and
discuss the problem. You know, like almost every other business on earth
does.

anim8rFSK

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May 22, 2013, 5:24:12 PM5/22/13
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In article <2rvpp892esjot84f2...@4ax.com>,
It actually gives me an out. I told them we'd never buy their products
again until they fired douchebag Chris Cox, who was intentionally
sabotaging plug ins and withholding solutions, for no reason other than
he's incompetent and a douchebag. Now I can get their stuff again (if I
choose too) 'cause I'm not buying it ... I *can't* buy it! :D

Mason Barge

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May 22, 2013, 7:08:37 PM5/22/13
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People with websites trying to manipulate the SEO are not customers.
You don't have a right to even be indexed on Google. They're doing you
a favor. Well, given their near monopoly, I will retract about
halfway. This entire quasi-monopoly by owning the technology thing is
the sucks.

*I'm* a genuine customer. If you run an ad, they will talk to you on
the phone. Plus, your search rank positioning is within your own
power to raise, if you send them money.

BTR1701

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May 22, 2013, 7:55:36 PM5/22/13
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Try getting someone on the phone to talk about how your video was
unceremoniously yanked from YouTube, or your Gmail account was shut down
with no explanation, or your Google Docs account have been suspended for
'infringement'.

You can spin it however you like, but Google has many other products
besides AdSense, and the stories out there of people trying unsuccessfully
to deal with Google regarding problems with them are legion.

Contrary to your initial claim-- which I realize is your opinion and valid
insofar as that goes-- Google does *not* have a very good reputation for
being customer service-friendly.

Just a few examples:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091201/1019327149.shtml

http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseackerman/2012/10/21/frustrated-google-users-seek-to-give-tech-giant-a-taste-of-its-own-medicine/

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20091203/1312097184.shtml

http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseackerman/2012/10/23/forrester-analyst-warns-googles-customer-service-woes-could-affect-its-valuation/

William December Starr

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May 23, 2013, 11:55:54 AM5/23/13
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In article <kncgfl$g3i$1...@dont-email.me>,
Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> said:

> Was the Brannon Braga show the one with Brent Spiner and Peter
> Dinklage? Threshold, I believe it was called. I thought it was
> really good; the best of the three actually.

I could never get past the amount of information that was encoded in
a brief audio clip (the "grinding knives" sound that turned people
into alien pawns, cockroaches into nightmare cockroaches from hell,
etc.)

-- wds

Mason Barge

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May 23, 2013, 1:21:42 PM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 16:55:36 -0700, "BTR1701"
My point is, these complaints are all (as far as I can tell) about
free services.

BTR1701

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May 23, 2013, 1:40:26 PM5/23/13
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Sure, but they're services that Google want people to use because they
monetize them in different ways. If they're going to sell Google Docs, for
example, as a way of putting all your essential documents in one place,
when something goes wrong and people lose access to their valuable
information, they can't then turn around and shrug their collective
shoulders at those very people they're trying so hard to attract and say,
"Well, you didn't pay for it, so go to hell" whenever anything goes wrong.

Or more accurately, they *can* do that, but they're going to get a
well-deserved reputation for shitty customer service if they do.

Hunter

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May 25, 2013, 11:09:29 PM5/25/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 14:04:20 -0400, Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>BBC America - SPIES OF WARSAW (miniseries) - ALAN FURST!!!1!
> WOO-WOO! BBC did a 4-hour miniseries based on Alan Furst's
>novels. Yeah of course it was great! And the adorable Janet
>Montgomery looked even cuter than usual, as they didn't try to cover
>up the natural lines/bags under her eyes, which gave her the perfect
>world-weary forlorn look for a woman in Poland in 1937-39.
>
>http://wpc.556e.edgecastcdn.net/80556E/img.news/NEC4lJoodmp3FC_1_1.jpg
>
>Look for this one come Emmys time.
>
>Grade: A+
----
Loved it. I hope they will make additional episodes, picking up where
they left off sneaking of Poland's National bullion reserve from under
both the Nazi's and Soviet's noses!
(snip)
>
>SOUL SURFER (HBO)
> I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
>feeling sorry for myself. Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
>Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
>bikinis. Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?
>
>This is now going on my official "Top Ten Guilty Pleasures" list.
>Let's see how many I can name:
>
>Soul Surfer
>Roadhouse
>Walking Tall (original)
----
This is a gulty pleasure? "Walking Tall" is a cult classic.
>
>Push
>Starship Troopers
----
Think of it as a live action cartoon. One of the best scenes is when
everyone learned through a Vulcan like mind meld that the Mother Bug
they caught was afraid! EVERONE cheered.
>
>Pitch Black
>Coyote Ugly
>Dumb & Dumber
>Legally Blonde
>Crash (the first, really warped one)
----
You mean the one where the hero humped an old lady IIRC?

------>Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

Obveeus

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May 25, 2013, 11:05:19 PM5/25/13
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"Mason Barge" <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

> SOUL SURFER (HBO)
> I just watched this and needed another dose because I've been
> feeling sorry for myself. Yet another supercute girl, Anna Sophie
> Robb and several teenage friends jumping all around the screen in
> bikinis. Is there *anything* cuter than teenagers in bikinis?

You might want to check out the web series 'PRETTY TOUGH' on Hulu.com.
http://www.hulu.com/#!pretty-tough
Girls in bikinis surfing and also girls playing soccer...and if you watch
closely, you will even see Beth Behrs from 2 BROKE GIRLS.


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