Disney buying LucasFilm

David

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Oct 30, 2012, 3:58:19 PM10/30/12

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Claims Deadline

http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

David

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:08:12 PM10/30/12

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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-buy-lucasfilm-405-billion-384448

Disney to Buy Lucasfilm for $4.05 Billion
by THR Staff

The Walt Disney Company has acquired Lucasfilm for $4.05 billion in
cash and stock, and announced a new Star Wars movie to be released in
2015.

Kathleen Kennedy, current co-chair of Lucasfilm, will become
Lucasfilm's president, reporting to Walt Disney Studios chair Alan
Horn as part of stock and cash transaction. More to come...

David

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:11:05 PM10/30/12

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...The movie will be "Star Wars Episode 7"

http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

KalElFan

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:14:41 PM10/30/12

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Dear Disney:

You've done a superb job with the Avengers, all things Marvel,
and of course many iconic fantasy properties over the years,
indeed decades. I'm enjoying Once Upon a Time on ABC,
and Pixar is great. You're on a roll.

Re this acquisition of LucasFilm, would you please acquire
DC Comics / Superman while you're at it?

Regards,

KalElFan

Lynn McGuire

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:18:06 PM10/30/12

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On 10/30/2012 3:11 PM, David wrote:
> ...The movie will be "Star Wars Episode 7"
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

Me like !

Lynn

KalElFan

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:22:55 PM10/30/12

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"David" wrote in message
news:s0d0989ous8vdoq9j...@4ax.com...

> ...The movie will be "Star Wars Episode 7"

AKA the next highest grossing film of all time. James Cameron
will have #2 and #3 with something to shoot for. :-)

I always thought Lucas should have made the third trilogy,
now it's for real. :-)

> http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

David B.

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:28:56 PM10/30/12

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:22:55 -0700, KalElFan <kale...@yanospamhoo.com>
wrote:

So...when does Luke Skywalker show up on Once Upon a Time?

Obveeus

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:36:53 PM10/30/12

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"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ...The movie will be "Star Wars Episode 7"
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

I'd much rather see them make the last planned trilogy than more filler
Clone Wars era material.

David

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:38:11 PM10/30/12

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George Lucas statement

"For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see
Star Wars passed from one generation to the next. It�s now time for me
to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers. I�ve always
believed that Star Wars could live beyond me, and I thought it was
important to set up the transition during my lifetime. I�m confident
that with Lucasfilm under the leadership of Kathleen Kennedy, and
having a new home within the Disney organization, Star Wars will
certainly live on and flourish for many generations to come. Disney�s
reach and experience give Lucasfilm the opportunity to blaze new
trails in film, television, interactive media, theme parks, live
entertainment, and consumer products."

Michael Black

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Oct 30, 2012, 4:40:50 PM10/30/12

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012, David wrote:

> Claims Deadline
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/
>
I've got a bad feeling...

Michael

Obveeus

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Oct 30, 2012, 5:05:55 PM10/30/12

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"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> George Lucas statement

> Disney's
> reach and experience give Lucasfilm the opportunity to blaze new
> trails in film, television, interactive media, theme parks, live
> entertainment, and consumer products."

On the subject of Star Wars, I'm only interested in film.

Professor Bubba

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Oct 30, 2012, 5:47:37 PM10/30/12

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In article <alpine.LNX.2.02.1...@darkstar.example.org>,

There's a disturbance in the Force.

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 30, 2012, 5:51:25 PM10/30/12

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If anyone else had written that, it would have come off as sarcasm.

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 30, 2012, 5:52:21 PM10/30/12

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Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:

>>Claims Deadline

>>http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

>I've got a bad feeling...

What terrible thing could they do to the Star Wars franchise that Lucas
hasn't already done?

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 30, 2012, 5:54:39 PM10/30/12

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What film? The last two were video. The era has ended.

Michael OConnor

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Oct 30, 2012, 6:16:33 PM10/30/12

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> What terrible thing could they do to the Star Wars franchise that Lucas
> hasn't already done?

Star Wars - The Theme Park.

Kevrob

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Oct 30, 2012, 6:31:16 PM10/30/12

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Star Wars Holiday Special II: An Ewok Odyssey

Kevin

Obveeus

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Oct 30, 2012, 7:42:14 PM10/30/12

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"Michael OConnor" <mpoco...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:c340f727-226c-4527...@m4g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>
>> What terrible thing could they do to the Star Wars franchise that Lucas
>> hasn't already done?
>
> Star Wars - The Theme Park.

I wonder what will happen to this one:
http://california.legoland.com/plan/shows_and_events/STAR-WARS-Miniland/

Your Name

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Oct 30, 2012, 8:11:25 PM10/30/12

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In article <j9c09818gmf3990lm...@4ax.com>, David

<diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Claims Deadline
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

Unfortunately it is true. :o(

It's being reported all over the place that "Star Wars" creator George
Lucas has sold everything to Disney - all of his various companies
(LucasFilm, ILM, Skywalker Sound, LucasArts, etc.) and the entire Star
Wars franchise.

I can only guess that George Lucas was disappointed by the rather
lacklustre reception to the (frankly pointless and hopeless) 3D-erised
release of Episode I.

It remains to be seen what this means for the Clone Wars animated TV show,
the planned live-action TV show, the fifth Indiana Jones movies, and
everything else ... but the over-egoed, money-grubbers are already
planning a rushed, ill-fitting "Episode 7" movie (over-seen by Lucas) to
be released in 2015, followed by new Episode 8 and 9 movies every two
years. Another great franchise destroyed by Hollyweird. :o(

Your Name

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Oct 30, 2012, 8:14:11 PM10/30/12

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In article <k6pi6l$evo$6...@news.albasani.net>, "Adam H. Kerman"

"Star Wars High School Musical" starring lots of Miley Cyrus wannabes oo
even worse "John Carter 2". ;o)

Unfortunately the plans are much worse - they're planning idiotic,
ill-fitting sequel movies. :o(

Your Name

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Oct 30, 2012, 8:18:13 PM10/30/12

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In article <s0d0989ous8vdoq9j...@4ax.com>, David

<diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> ...The movie will be "Star Wars Episode 7"
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

and it will be ill-fitting crap!

The story of Anakin Skywalker is over, the Emperor is dead, the Empire is
finished, ... there's nowhere to take a supposed "Episode 7", let alone
the ridiculous Episode 8 and 9 they're also planning. :o(

(Yes, I know there are novels that continue the story within the Star Wars
universe with rather silly things like clone Emperors and an invading
alien force.)

Your Name

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Oct 30, 2012, 8:20:43 PM10/30/12

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There is no "last planned trilogy". The now-mythical third trilogy was to
involve Luke going off to find his sister on the other side of the galaxy,
and then together they defeat the Empire. That original rough storyline
was altered during the writing of Episodes V and VI. There's nowhere to
now take the Star Wars Saga ... except into stupidity. :o(

Your Name

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Oct 30, 2012, 8:21:40 PM10/30/12

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In article <k6piav$evo$7...@news.albasani.net>, "Adam H. Kerman"

Maybe the world *IS* ending in December 2012. Growing ozone hole,
Microsoft bails out Apple, Steve Jobs dies, shrinking polar ice caps,
meltdown of the greedy financial world, George Lucas sells out Star Wars -
all signs of the impending apocalypse? :o(

Your Name

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Oct 30, 2012, 8:25:15 PM10/30/12

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In article <afaqp1...@mid.individual.net>, "KalElFan"

With Microsoft thankfully going down the toilet (albeit very slowly), it
looks like the world will now be owned by Disney, or maybe Apple.

Dimensional Traveler

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Oct 30, 2012, 10:22:06 PM10/30/12

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That's no moon....

Dimensional Traveler

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Oct 30, 2012, 10:22:35 PM10/30/12

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So you are not part of the target demographic.

Dimensional Traveler

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Oct 30, 2012, 10:23:10 PM10/30/12

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I don't want to find out.

Michael Black

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Oct 30, 2012, 10:31:35 PM10/30/12

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I think that works better. But it may have just been low pressure from
the storm.

Michael

David Johnston

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Oct 31, 2012, 12:18:24 AM10/31/12

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On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 5:14:19 PM UTC-7, Your Name wrote:

> Unfortunately the plans are much worse - they're planning idiotic,
>
> ill-fitting sequel movies. :o(

Good. I look forward to them.

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 1:14:18 AM10/31/12

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In article <50908b8f$0$71149$742e...@news.sonic.net>, Dimensional

You've already seen the "prequel" to Disney's efforts ... it was the box
office bomb "John Carter". :-(

Hunter

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Oct 31, 2012, 5:31:47 AM10/31/12

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:11:05 -0400, David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>...The movie will be "Star Wars Episode 7"
>
>http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

-----
There was a third Trilogy with the Grand Admiral that replaced Emperor
Palpatine and Darth Vader and is every bit as evil as they were. This
trilogy was to mark the return the Empire to democracy IIRC. Maybe
this is the beginning of it, the third and truely final trilogy.

------>Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

Mason Barge

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Oct 31, 2012, 3:09:04 PM10/31/12

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:58:19 -0400, David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Claims Deadline
>
>http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

This only raises one question in my mind.

Will they put one or more Star Wars attractions into the Magic Kingdom
(and no doubt MGM), or make it into a separate park of its own?

Mason Barge

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Oct 31, 2012, 3:16:48 PM10/31/12

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Really. What part of Star Wars I, II, III wasn't Disney-tone already?

What worries me is that it falls into a niche, in between Disney Studios
and Touchstone/Dreamworks. And there's another peril . . . if Speilberg
get his hands on it, GAME OVER.

This could conceivably even be a good thing. The franchise needs a
reboot. We can only hope.

Jim G.

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Oct 31, 2012, 3:29:03 PM10/31/12

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David sent the following on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:38:11 -0400:

> George Lucas statement
>
> "For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see
> Star Wars passed from one generation to the next. It’s now time for me
> to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers. I’ve always
> believed that Star Wars could live beyond me, and I thought it was
> important to set up the transition during my lifetime.

"Because I always wanted to know what it feels like to sleep on a
mattress made of thousand-dollar bills."

More power to him, but he really should avoid any attempts to spin this
as anything remotely selfless on his part (and I definitely sense that
spin here).

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"I'm really ready for this day to be over." -- Duke Crocker, HAVEN

Obveeus

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Oct 31, 2012, 3:34:33 PM10/31/12

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"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> David sent the following on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:38:11 -0400:
>> George Lucas statement
>>
>> "For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see
>> Star Wars passed from one generation to the next. It's now time for me
>> to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers. I've always
>> believed that Star Wars could live beyond me, and I thought it was
>> important to set up the transition during my lifetime.
>
> "Because I always wanted to know what it feels like to sleep on a
> mattress made of thousand-dollar bills."
>
> More power to him, but he really should avoid any attempts to spin this
> as anything remotely selfless on his part (and I definitely sense that
> spin here).

I disagree. It sounds more like maybe he was watching the estates of Jim
Henson and Charles Schulz and wanted to 'set up the transition' while he
still had some say in direction.

Barry Margolin

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Oct 31, 2012, 3:44:33 PM10/31/12

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In article <00h2985boa7hrprem...@4ax.com>,

Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> David sent the following on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:38:11 -0400:
> > George Lucas statement
> >
> > "For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see
> > Star Wars passed from one generation to the next. It’s now time for me
> > to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers. I’ve always
> > believed that Star Wars could live beyond me, and I thought it was
> > important to set up the transition during my lifetime.
>
> "Because I always wanted to know what it feels like to sleep on a
> mattress made of thousand-dollar bills."
>
> More power to him, but he really should avoid any attempts to spin this
> as anything remotely selfless on his part (and I definitely sense that
> spin here).

Lucas was already #120 on the Forbes 400 list of richest Americans,
worth $3.3 B. So he can already sleep on those thousand dollar bills.

I wonder what this sale actually does to his net worth. I assume Forbes
included the estimated value of Lucasfilm in that $3.3 B figure. They
obviously underestimated, compared to what Disney values it as.

Is Lucas the only shareholder of Lucasfilm? If not, how much of the $4
billion that Disney is paying goes to him? Is it all in cash, or are
they giving him Disney stock?

--
Barry Margolin
Arlington, MA

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 4:12:18 PM10/31/12

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In article <5090ef83...@news.optonline.net>, Hunter

<buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:11:05 -0400, David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >...The movie will be "Star Wars Episode 7"
> >
> >http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/
>

> There was a third Trilogy with the Grand Admiral that replaced Emperor
> Palpatine and Darth Vader and is every bit as evil as they were. This
> trilogy was to mark the return the Empire to democracy IIRC. Maybe
> this is the beginning of it, the third and truely final trilogy.

That was in the spin-off novels, not George Lucas' ideas. The now-planned
"third trilogy" is likely to contradict that and other "Expanded Universe"
material as well as make a horrible mess of the Saga movies which are
already complete as they are. The whole idea of adding a third trilogy is,
as usual, nothing but a money-grubbing exercise and damn the fans and the
existing established storyline. :-(

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 4:14:33 PM10/31/12

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In article <barmar-24F5C3....@news.eternal-september.org>,

I don't think there are shareholders in any of Geore Lucas' companies -
they were owned completely by him and paid for by the Star Wars fans and
the other work the companies like ILM did.

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 4:16:45 PM10/31/12

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A transition was already set-up, this is nothing but a massive
money-grubbing on both sides of the deal. Rick McCallum must be incredibly
pissed off, as will many fans be if (and probably when) Disney makes a
mess of the franchise.

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 4:24:42 PM10/31/12

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In article <5nt298dc2vs0e2qo6...@4ax.com>, Mason Barge

Yes, they've already stated they will be doing more theme park integration.

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 4:26:11 PM10/31/12

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In article <nqt2989ta9v2a514f...@4ax.com>, Mason Barge

The single glimmer of hope is that there will thankfully not be an idiotic
"reboot".

shawn

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Oct 31, 2012, 5:44:53 PM10/31/12

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He was the sole shareholder of Lucasfilms so all of the money/stock
goes to him. As I understand it.. Ah here is the exact split.
As sole owner of Lucasfilm, he will receive slightly more than $2
billion in cash and about $2 billion worth of stock in Disney --
making him the second-largest individual shareholder in the company.

shawn

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Oct 31, 2012, 5:46:07 PM10/31/12

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:09:04 -0400, Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com>
wrote:

In the Magic Kingdom (Calif) they may have to add a ride but I'm sure
we will see a new theme park in Disney World dedicated to Star Wars in
four or five years.

anim8rFSK

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Oct 31, 2012, 6:09:13 PM10/31/12

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In article <5nt298dc2vs0e2qo6...@4ax.com>,

Um ... you do realize they've had Star Wars and Indiana Jones rides at
the Disney parks for decades?

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

William December Starr

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Oct 31, 2012, 6:14:54 PM10/31/12

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In article <afar8l...@mid.individual.net>,
"KalElFan" <kale...@yanospamhoo.com> said:

> I always thought Lucas should have made the third trilogy,

Always? Even after seeing the second trilogy?

> now it's for real. :-)

-- wds

Professor Bubba

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Oct 31, 2012, 6:42:39 PM10/31/12

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In article <anim8rfsk-497BF...@news.easynews.com>,

It only *seems* that long when you've been standing in line for them.

trotsky

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Oct 31, 2012, 6:47:27 PM10/31/12

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I think the Indiana Jones Get-Run-Over-By-A-Giant-Round-Boulder ride
will be a big hit.

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 31, 2012, 7:42:53 PM10/31/12

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shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:

>Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

>>Is Lucas the only shareholder of Lucasfilm? If not, how much of the $4
>>billion that Disney is paying goes to him? Is it all in cash, or are
>>they giving him Disney stock?

>He was the sole shareholder of Lucasfilms so all of the money/stock
>goes to him. As I understand it.. Ah here is the exact split.
>As sole owner of Lucasfilm, he will receive slightly more than $2
>billion in cash and about $2 billion worth of stock in Disney --
>making him the second-largest individual shareholder in the company.

Yeah, they might have to listen to him.

What's the relationship of Lucas's other corporations to Lucasfilm?
Subsidiaries or entirely unrelated, like ILM?

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 8:14:02 PM10/31/12

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In article <k6sd1t$rl6$1...@news.albasani.net>, "Adam H. Kerman"

George Lucas sold absolutely EVERYTHING - all the companies, all the
trademarks, all the rights to francishes like Star Wars and Indiana Jones.
That includes LucasFilm, LucasArts, ILM, Skywalker Sound, etc. The whole
lot is now owned by Disney. Reportedly the companies will continue to run
as separate "guns for hire" to work on other studio's movies, but how long
that lasts is anyone's guess.

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 8:15:26 PM10/31/12

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In article <anim8rfsk-497BF...@news.easynews.com>, anim8rFSK
<anim...@cox.net> wrote:

Yep, but now they plan even more "integration".

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 8:18:36 PM10/31/12

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In article <HMydnTbTfIsdNwzN...@mchsi.com>, trotsky

UK talk show host Graham Norton already did that. :-)

He had a volunteer audience member standing in front of a projection
screen which they were told would display the boulder, then at the last
minute they dropped the screen and a real "boulder" (obviously made of
polystyrene) came roling forwards and he shouted "Run!". The person was
running through the back stage area chased by the large "boulder".

tenworld

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Oct 31, 2012, 8:25:38 PM10/31/12

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On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 3:09:14 PM UTC-7, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <5nt298dc2vs0e2qo6...@4ax.com>,

> Um ... you do realize they've had Star Wars and Indiana Jones rides at
>
> the Disney parks for decades?
>

Oct 1987 the first Star Wars ride opened in Anaheim. I remember only because I bought the family here and noticed long lines at a new ride that had just opened.

Barry Margolin

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Oct 31, 2012, 9:19:17 PM10/31/12

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In article <k6sd1t$rl6$1...@news.albasani.net>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

I think they're subsidiaries. The reports I heard said that Disney gets
ILM and Skywalker Sound.

However, they're not getting the two ranches that Lucas owns and host
Lucasfilm operations. I guess Disney will be paying Lucas rent for a
while, until they move the operations to other Disney properties.

Barry Margolin

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Oct 31, 2012, 9:22:22 PM10/31/12

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In article <fv6398t83eqivfshe...@4ax.com>,

I don't think it could support a whole theme park. At most a
"Lucasland" in the Magic Kingdom, but I think even that's a bit much.

Dimensional Traveler

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Oct 31, 2012, 9:33:47 PM10/31/12

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Actually, I haven't. Its way down in my Netflix queue.

Dimensional Traveler

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Oct 31, 2012, 9:38:30 PM10/31/12

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Lucas already moved most of the operations out of Skywalker ranch into
the Presidio (or is in the process of doing so).

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 31, 2012, 10:16:20 PM10/31/12

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Really. He's planning to redevelop?

Adam H. Kerman

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Oct 31, 2012, 10:16:46 PM10/31/12

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Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>What's the relationship of Lucas's other corporations to Lucasfilm?
>>Subsidiaries or entirely unrelated, like ILM?

>I think they're subsidiaries. The reports I heard said that Disney gets
>ILM and Skywalker Sound.

Thank you.

Your Name

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Oct 31, 2012, 11:08:41 PM10/31/12

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In article <barmar-43C25F....@news.eternal-september.org>,

Come on now , we all know you'd thoroughly "enjoy" the Howard the Duck and
Tucker rides. ;-)

Michael Black

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Oct 31, 2012, 11:34:06 PM10/31/12

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Disneyland has been renamed?

The only time I was near any of that was in '63 or '64, obviously
Disneyland. Don't remember a lot, except for the monorail. but it gets
confusing, since I was 3 or 4 (I'm not even sure which year it was) and in
1964 and 65 we went to the New York World's Fair (we went to Europe for a
year, saw the fair on the way and then on the way back). And of course,
that World's Fair had a strong Disney component, so all these decades
later it's hard to separate the memories.

Michael

Jerry Brown

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Nov 1, 2012, 5:49:43 AM11/1/12

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On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:08:41 +1300, Your...@YourISP.com (Your Name)
wrote:

The American Graffiti experience might be fun, but I wouldn't care for
the THX-1138 one.

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

Adam H. Kerman

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Nov 1, 2012, 5:57:13 AM11/1/12

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Jerry Brown <je...@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 16:08:41 +1300, Your...@YourISP.com (Your Name) wrote:

>>Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>shawn <nanof...@gNOTmail.com> wrote:

>>>>Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>This only raises one question in my mind.

>>>>>Will they put one or more Star Wars attractions into the Magic Kingdom
>>>>>(and no doubt MGM), or make it into a separate park of its own?

>>>>In the Magic Kingdom (Calif) they may have to add a ride but I'm sure
>>>>we will see a new theme park in Disney World dedicated to Star Wars in
>>>>four or five years.

>>>I don't think it could support a whole theme park. At most a
>>>"Lucasland" in the Magic Kingdom, but I think even that's a bit much.

>>Come on now , we all know you'd thoroughly "enjoy" the Howard the Duck and
>>Tucker rides. ;-)

>The American Graffiti experience might be fun, but I wouldn't care for
>the THX-1138 one.

You were told it was fun and you enjoyed yourself, otherwise prepare
for re-education.

Remysun

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On Oct 31, 11:31 pm, Michael Black <et...@ncf.ca> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012, shawn wrote:

> > In the Magic Kingdom (Calif) they may have to add a ride but I'm sure
> > we will see a new theme park in Disney World dedicated to Star Wars in
> > four or five years.
>
> Disneyland has been renamed?

No, it hasn't. Disney World became a larger version of Disneyland,
with the recreation of Disneyland being called the Magic Kingdom.
California Adventure and Downtown Disney offer an argument that
Disneyland could now be considered a Magic Kingdom, but with the whole
complex never having taken an Disney encompassing moniker, it is still
Disneyland.

Disneyland does have a Star Tours ride in Tomorrowland, but an actual
Lucas section would probably belong to California Adventure or the MGM
studios in Florida.

Remysun

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On Nov 1, 5:49 am, Jerry Brown <je...@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

> The American Graffiti experience might be fun, but I wouldn't care for
> the THX-1138 one.

(spoiler)

That one would pretty much peter out at the end.

KoshN

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Nov 1, 2012, 10:32:39 AM11/1/12

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On Tuesday, October 30, 2012 3:58:01 PM UTC-4, David wrote:
> Claims Deadline
>
>
>
> http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/

Don't care, because I an soooooo over Star Wars (and Star Trek, too, btw.).

KoshN

Mason Barge

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Nov 1, 2012, 12:51:36 PM11/1/12

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On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 09:26:11 +1300, Your...@YourISP.com (Your Name)
wrote:

Well, if it's idiotic, nobody would want it.

Mason Barge

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 21:22:22 -0400, Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu>
wrote:

If there is anything absolutely certain, it's that Lucas' name won't be
put on it :)

But yeah, you could do a "Star Wars Kingdom" or some even more generic
name. Remember "Fantasyland"?

I dunno. It's going to be hard to do a separate kingdom, as much as
Disney would love to do it, so that they could charge another admission
fee. It really fits into the entire concept of The Magic Kingdom.

Mason Barge

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Nov 1, 2012, 1:04:43 PM11/1/12

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Haha, I actually didn't, desptie the fact that I travel down there
regularly. I haven't been to the Disney Hollywood theme park since it was
still "MGM", and I think my Magic Kingdom days are over forever.

The last three times I've been to the Kissimmee theme park area were to
attend Cirque de Soleil in Downtown, Universal Studios, and Epcot.

I would have said that there was an Indiana Jones ride, so maybe I've been
on it.

David

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Nov 1, 2012, 1:05:29 PM11/1/12

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:44:33 -0400, Barry Margolin
<bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

>In article <00h2985boa7hrprem...@4ax.com>,
> Jim G. <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> David sent the following on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:38:11 -0400:
>> > George Lucas statement
>> >
>> > "For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see
>> > Star Wars passed from one generation to the next. It�s now time for me
>> > to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers. I�ve always
>> > believed that Star Wars could live beyond me, and I thought it was
>> > important to set up the transition during my lifetime.
>>
>> "Because I always wanted to know what it feels like to sleep on a
>> mattress made of thousand-dollar bills."
>>
>> More power to him, but he really should avoid any attempts to spin this
>> as anything remotely selfless on his part (and I definitely sense that
>> spin here).
>
>Lucas was already #120 on the Forbes 400 list of richest Americans,
>worth $3.3 B. So he can already sleep on those thousand dollar bills.

Lucas says he's giving most of the money to charity
http://www.avclub.com/articles/by-donating-his-disney-money-to-charity-george-luc,88218/

anim8rFSK

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Nov 1, 2012, 2:05:41 PM11/1/12

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In article <0na598d8i2fmcnitf...@4ax.com>,

I've ridden Star Tours, and I haven't been to Disneyland since probably
the late 80s. Indiana Jones wasn't running yet though.

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

Jim G.

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Obveeus sent the following on Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:34:33 -0400:

>
> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> > David sent the following on Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:38:11 -0400:
> >> George Lucas statement
> >>
> >> "For the past 35 years, one of my greatest pleasures has been to see
> >> Star Wars passed from one generation to the next. It's now time for me
> >> to pass Star Wars on to a new generation of filmmakers. I've always
> >> believed that Star Wars could live beyond me, and I thought it was
> >> important to set up the transition during my lifetime.
> >
> > "Because I always wanted to know what it feels like to sleep on a
> > mattress made of thousand-dollar bills."
> >
> > More power to him, but he really should avoid any attempts to spin this
> > as anything remotely selfless on his part (and I definitely sense that
> > spin here).
>

> I disagree. It sounds more like maybe he was watching the estates of Jim
> Henson and Charles Schulz and wanted to 'set up the transition' while he
> still had some say in direction.

That's certainly a possibility that I can't deny.

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"I'm really ready for this day to be over." -- Duke Crocker, HAVEN

Your Name

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Nov 1, 2012, 4:06:22 PM11/1/12

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In article <74a598dtui23iscnp...@4ax.com>, Mason Barge

ALL "reboots" are idiotic because only idiots want them. Actual fans of
the proper version are fans because they like it how it is, not with
stupid changes and butchered into being barely recognisable.

Your Name

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Nov 1, 2012, 4:10:25 PM11/1/12

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In article <anim8rfsk-1C609...@news.easynews.com>, anim8rFSK

<anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <0na598d8i2fmcnitf...@4ax.com>,
> Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:09:13 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <5nt298dc2vs0e2qo6...@4ax.com>,
> > > Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 15:58:19 -0400, David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Claims Deadline
> > >> >
> > >>
>http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creato
> > >> >r/
> > >>
> > >> This only raises one question in my mind.
> > >>
> > >> Will they put one or more Star Wars attractions into the Magic Kingdom
> > >> (and no doubt MGM), or make it into a separate park of its own?
> > >
> > >Um ... you do realize they've had Star Wars and Indiana Jones rides at
> > >the Disney parks for decades?
> >
> > Haha, I actually didn't, desptie the fact that I travel down there
> > regularly. I haven't been to the Disney Hollywood theme park since it was
> > still "MGM", and I think my Magic Kingdom days are over forever.
> >
> > The last three times I've been to the Kissimmee theme park area were to
> > attend Cirque de Soleil in Downtown, Universal Studios, and Epcot.
> >
> > I would have said that there was an Indiana Jones ride, so maybe I've been
> > on it.
>
> I've ridden Star Tours, and I haven't been to Disneyland since probably
> the late 80s. Indiana Jones wasn't running yet though.

Star Tours has been updated since then, but I've never been there.

There was also already a pile of exclusive Star Tour merchandise and
figures / vehicles - both Disney-fied ones (Jedi Mickey, Stormtrooper
Donald Duck, etc.), proper Star Wars ones (Build-a-Droid, where you can
select various heads, bodies, legs, etc. to make your own droid), and
recently they were planning to have a scanner there so you can have your
own head scanned and put onto a figure (to be shipped to you later).

Your Name

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Nov 1, 2012, 4:12:16 PM11/1/12

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In article <nta59896a3l7up3i0...@4ax.com>, David

He should probably give it back to all the fans who have supported him
over the years and are now (very likely) getting a massive kick in the
teeth for it. :-(

Jerry Brown

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Nov 1, 2012, 4:41:02 PM11/1/12

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On Fri, 02 Nov 2012 09:10:25 +1300, Your...@YourISP.com (Your Name)
wrote:

If these were the other way round, I'd be tempted.

>etc.), proper Star Wars ones (Build-a-Droid, where you can
>select various heads, bodies, legs, etc. to make your own droid), and
>recently they were planning to have a scanner there so you can have your
>own head scanned and put onto a figure (to be shipped to you later).

Your Name

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Nov 1, 2012, 8:09:36 PM11/1/12

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In article <vfn598lho5n4vd4ed...@jwbrown.co.uk>,

Errr ... what? A Jedi Mickey is the same thing as a Mickey Jedi.

Dimensional Traveler

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Nov 1, 2012, 10:55:57 PM11/1/12

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He tried for years to get the necessary permits and such from San Rafael
but the neighbors threw massive NIMBY shit-fits about anything more
being built at Skywalker Ranch and the city council farked up letting
him build his complex in some under-developed city land near the freeway
and downtown. So when San Francisco announced plans to turn parts of
the Presidio into a business park, Lucas bought a big chunk of it and
started building the new Lucas Film Imperial capital.

--
The 'Enterprise' crew in the 2009 Star Trek are adrenaline addicted,
hyper-active teenagers with ADD whose Ritalin got replaced with
methamphetamine, displaying a level of discipline that a Somali pirate
wouldn't tolerate.

Dimensional Traveler

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Nov 1, 2012, 10:58:38 PM11/1/12

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The accountants always win in the end.

Adam H. Kerman

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Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>On 10/31/2012 7:16 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>>>On 10/31/2012 6:19 PM, Barry Margolin wrote:
>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>>>>What's the relationship of Lucas's other corporations to Lucasfilm?
>>>>>Subsidiaries or entirely unrelated, like ILM?

>>>>I think they're subsidiaries. The reports I heard said that Disney gets
>>>>ILM and Skywalker Sound.

>>>>However, they're not getting the two ranches that Lucas owns and host
>>>>Lucasfilm operations. I guess Disney will be paying Lucas rent for a
>>>>while, until they move the operations to other Disney properties.

>>>Lucas already moved most of the operations out of Skywalker ranch into
>>>the Presidio (or is in the process of doing so).

>>Really. He's planning to redevelop?

>He tried for years to get the necessary permits and such from San Rafael
>but the neighbors threw massive NIMBY shit-fits about anything more
>being built at Skywalker Ranch and the city council farked up letting
>him build his complex in some under-developed city land near the freeway
>and downtown. So when San Francisco announced plans to turn parts of
>the Presidio into a business park, Lucas bought a big chunk of it and
>started building the new Lucas Film Imperial capital.

Thanks.

Your Name

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In article <509336d9$0$71204$742e...@news.sonic.net>, Dimensional

Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> On 11/1/2012 7:30 AM, Remysun wrote:
> > On Nov 1, 5:49 am, Jerry Brown <je...@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> The American Graffiti experience might be fun, but I wouldn't care for
> >> the THX-1138 one.
> >
> > (spoiler)
> >
> > That one would pretty much peter out at the end.
>
> The accountants always win in the end.

Peter was a Pumpkin Eater or a Pickled Pepper Picker ... Jack was the
Accountant (bean counter). ;-)

Michael Black

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On Fri, 2 Nov 2012, Your Name wrote:

>>> Jedi Mickey, Stormtrooper Donald Duck,
>>
>> If these were the other way round, I'd be tempted.
>
> Errr ... what? A Jedi Mickey is the same thing as a Mickey Jedi.
>

Thee's a difference between Mickey and the other familiar Disney animated
characters doing "Star Wars" (like the times they used to do classic
stories) and adding a Mickey Mouse sidekick to a new Star Wars movie.

The latter would be like adding Jar Jar Blinks, oops they did that.

Look on the bright side, they can move Jar Jar to Disnewy, where he can be
a cartoon character.

Michael

Arthur Lipscomb

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I went to Disneyland a few years ago. Prior to that I hadn't been since
the late 80s too. The Indiana Jones ride is *really* good. It's sort
of like an indoor roller coaster for people who don't like roller
coasters. I'm thinking about going to Disneyland (and Universal
Studios) early next year. One of the first rides I'll be heading too is
Indiana Jones.

If I do go again, I'll be able to better enjoy my visit by avoiding
certain rides/experiences like the Enchanted Tiki Room. Whatever you
do, do *not* go into the Enchanted Tiki Room!

anim8rFSK

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Nov 6, 2012, 1:59:00 AM11/6/12

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In article <k7a4u4$r5l$1...@dont-email.me>,

Whatever happened with that person that had their brain shaken loose
from their skull on the Indiana Jones ride? (no, really, I'm serious)

>
> If I do go again, I'll be able to better enjoy my visit by avoiding
> certain rides/experiences like the Enchanted Tiki Room. Whatever you
> do, do *not* go into the Enchanted Tiki Room!

I like the Tiki room.

William December Starr

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In article <anim8rfsk-B858B...@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> said:

> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
>> If I do go again, I'll be able to better enjoy my visit by
>> avoiding certain rides/experiences like the Enchanted Tiki Room.
>> Whatever you do, do *not* go into the Enchanted Tiki Room!
>
> I like the Tiki room.

Yeah, I bet Arthur's _really_ just trying to keep the rabble out of
the Tiki Room so he can enjoy it by himself!

-- wds (has no fucking idea at all what the Tiki Room is)

anim8rFSK

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Nov 11, 2012, 9:43:40 PM11/11/12

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In article <k7p7je$rl0$1...@panix2.panix.com>,

Really? It's their first audio-animatronic attraction; Polynesian
themed robot birds and Polynesian robot statues singing Polynesian
themed robot songs. Sort of like an avian Country Bear Jamboree.

Arthur Lipscomb

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Nov 12, 2012, 3:36:40 PM11/12/12

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On 11/11/2012 6:43 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article <k7p7je$rl0$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
> wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>
>> In article <anim8rfsk-B858B...@news.easynews.com>,
>> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> said:
>>
>>> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I do go again, I'll be able to better enjoy my visit by
>>>> avoiding certain rides/experiences like the Enchanted Tiki Room.
>>>> Whatever you do, do *not* go into the Enchanted Tiki Room!
>>>
>>> I like the Tiki room.
>>
>> Yeah, I bet Arthur's _really_ just trying to keep the rabble out of
>> the Tiki Room so he can enjoy it by himself!
>>
>> -- wds (has no fucking idea at all what the Tiki Room is)
>
> Really? It's their first audio-animatronic attraction; Polynesian
> themed robot birds and Polynesian robot statues singing Polynesian
> themed robot songs.

And you *like* it?!?!

At least it's a small world provides a boat trip and scenery. The Tiki
Room forces the audience to sit on a bench for the 15 minute experience.

Sort of like an avian Country Bear Jamboree.
>

I must have missed that last time. I'll have to make a mental note to
miss it again.

anim8rFSK

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Nov 12, 2012, 5:05:56 PM11/12/12

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In article <k7rmko$jkt$1...@dont-email.me>,

Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> On 11/11/2012 6:43 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <k7p7je$rl0$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
> > wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> >
> >> In article <anim8rfsk-B858B...@news.easynews.com>,
> >> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> said:
> >>
> >>> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If I do go again, I'll be able to better enjoy my visit by
> >>>> avoiding certain rides/experiences like the Enchanted Tiki Room.
> >>>> Whatever you do, do *not* go into the Enchanted Tiki Room!
> >>>
> >>> I like the Tiki room.
> >>
> >> Yeah, I bet Arthur's _really_ just trying to keep the rabble out of
> >> the Tiki Room so he can enjoy it by himself!
> >>
> >> -- wds (has no fucking idea at all what the Tiki Room is)
> >
> > Really? It's their first audio-animatronic attraction; Polynesian
> > themed robot birds and Polynesian robot statues singing Polynesian
> > themed robot songs.
>
> And you *like* it?!?!

I haven't been there since I was a kid, but, yeah, as a kid I liked it
fine. I thought the robotics were fascinating. I don't think I was
ever young enough to think they were real birds.

>
> At least it's a small world provides a boat trip and scenery.

I hate every moment of IASW. It may be the only thing at Disneyland I
truly despise.

The Tiki
> Room forces the audience to sit on a bench for the 15 minute experience.
>
> Sort of like an avian Country Bear Jamboree.
> >
>
> I must have missed that last time. I'll have to make a mental note to
> miss it again.

LOL, it's been there forever too. They had to change the lyrics to
DAVEY CROCKETT when somebody realized that "killed him a bear when he
was only three" was a bit disturbing when sung by an anthropomorphic
bear.

Dimensional Traveler

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Nov 12, 2012, 10:14:42 PM11/12/12

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That sounds typically Disney....

Your Name

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Nov 13, 2012, 12:54:29 AM11/13/12

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In article <k7rmko$jkt$1...@dont-email.me>, Arthur Lipscomb

<art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> On 11/11/2012 6:43 PM, anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <k7p7je$rl0$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
> > wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> >> In article <anim8rfsk-B858B...@news.easynews.com>,
> >> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> said:
> >>
> >>> Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> If I do go again, I'll be able to better enjoy my visit by
> >>>> avoiding certain rides/experiences like the Enchanted Tiki Room.
> >>>> Whatever you do, do *not* go into the Enchanted Tiki Room!
> >>>
> >>> I like the Tiki room.
> >>
> >> Yeah, I bet Arthur's _really_ just trying to keep the rabble out of
> >> the Tiki Room so he can enjoy it by himself!
> >>
> >> -- wds (has no fucking idea at all what the Tiki Room is)
> >
> > Really? It's their first audio-animatronic attraction; Polynesian
> > themed robot birds and Polynesian robot statues singing Polynesian
> > themed robot songs.
>
> And you *like* it?!?!

You should see New Zealand's versions. The Agridome has lectures on the
farming industry and animatronic sheep, while the Rainbow's End "fun" park
has about three tired old rides and a small room of arcade games machines.
Other than that, a few bubbling mud pools, suicidal activitieslike
bungy-jumping, and "Hobbiton", that's the sum total of New Zealand's
tourism industry ... and it's all massively over-priced. :-\

anim8rFSK

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Nov 13, 2012, 10:00:47 AM11/13/12

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In article
<YourName-131...@203-118-187-157.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz>,

ugh

Arthur Lipscomb

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Nov 14, 2012, 9:53:09 AM11/14/12

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Is there at least an animatronic wizard at the front gate shouting, "You
shall not pass!" to anyone who can't afford to pay?

Your Name

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Nov 14, 2012, 3:06:56 PM11/14/12

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In article <k80b8k$iqp$1...@dont-email.me>, Arthur Lipscomb

Nope. Hobbiton is simply a few holes in a hillside with doors on - no
wizard, nobody dressed up as Hobbits, no museum of film props, etc.

David Johnston

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Nov 17, 2012, 7:33:13 PM11/17/12

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On 10/31/2012 2:12 PM, Your Name wrote:
> In article <5090ef83...@news.optonline.net>, Hunter
> <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 16:11:05 -0400, David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...The movie will be "Star Wars Episode 7"
>>>
>>> http://www.deadline.com/2012/10/disney-acquires-lucasfilm-star-wars-creator/
>>
>> There was a third Trilogy with the Grand Admiral that replaced Emperor
>> Palpatine and Darth Vader and is every bit as evil as they were. This
>> trilogy was to mark the return the Empire to democracy IIRC. Maybe
>> this is the beginning of it, the third and truely final trilogy.
>
> That was in the spin-off novels, not George Lucas' ideas. The now-planned
> "third trilogy" is likely to contradict that and other "Expanded Universe"
> material as well as make a horrible mess of the Saga movies which are
> already complete as they are. The whole idea of adding a third trilogy is,
> as usual, nothing but a money-grubbing exercise and damn the fans

You mean the fans who are going to eagerly troop out to watch new Star
Wars films?