>Mark G. Habermann <mgh_10...@gmail.obvious.how.to.despam.invalid> wrote:
>>On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 06:56:32 -0500, Hypholoma fasciculare wrote:
>>>On 21/02/2012 2:29 AM, Michael Bowker wrote:
>>>>On 2/20/2012 4:30 AM, Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>>>>90 percent of ALL shows are never renewed for a second season.
>>>>Sturgeon's Law in action?
>>>Can't be. If it was, it'd be the reality shows constantly getting axed.
>>>Instead, they're the ones most consistently spared, despite being utter
>>>garbage without any artistic merits whatsoever and, usually, gratingly
>>>annoying to even have on in the same room with you. (Probably rapidly
>>>growing as a leading cause of divorce!)
>>What he said.
>You're better at maintaining the fiction when you don't agree with
>another sock, seamus.
I think half the posts in this thread are now his various socks. He must
be masturbating furiously today at all the replies.
> voldemort wrote:
>> On 21/02/2012 9:42 AM, Steven L. wrote:
>>> You forgot about:
>>> Supernatural
>> Cable.
> I get it over the air on the CW channel.
The station must have included it as part of independent programming. I never see it listed here in network primetime grids, and have to go up into the hundreds to find it in the interactive guide.
voldemort wrote:
> On 21/02/2012 10:20 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> voldemort<voldem...@hogwarts.ie> wrote:
>>> On 21/02/2012 9:42 AM, Steven L. wrote:
>>>> You forgot about:
>>>> Supernatural
>>> Cable.
>> No, it's on a broadcast network.
> You are confused. I've never seen it listed on any station except the > sci-fi channel. Which is cable-only, as you surely know.
No you're just watching it in Canada; it the US it's on a broadcast network. Surely you know they do things differently up there.
voldemort wrote:
> On 21/02/2012 10:26 AM, suzeeq wrote:
>> voldemort wrote:
>>> On 21/02/2012 9:42 AM, Steven L. wrote:
>>>> You forgot about:
>>>> Supernatural
>>> Cable.
>> I get it over the air on the CW channel.
> The station must have included it as part of independent programming. I > never see it listed here in network primetime grids, and have to go up > into the hundreds to find it in the interactive guide.
Supernatural airs on the CW broadcast network on Friday nights from 8:00 to 9:00 p.m. Central time. I don't know what times it airs in the other time zones. The CW is an over-the-air broadcast network. It broadcasts on UH channel 35 where I live.
Fred Ellis
-- "Who do you serve.... And who do you trust?"
(To e-mail me, remove the X from my address)
voldemort <voldem...@hogwarts.ie> wrote:
>On 21/02/2012 10:20 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>voldemort<voldem...@hogwarts.ie> wrote:
>>>On 21/02/2012 9:42 AM, Steven L. wrote:
>>>>You forgot about:
>>>>Supernatural
>>>Cable.
>>No, it's on a broadcast network.
>You are confused. I've never seen it listed on any station except the >sci-fi channel. Which is cable-only, as you surely know.
It's also an American tv show produced in Canadidinania, because none of
you twats is capable of producing your own shows for export.
The best you can do is remake an import from the UK like Being Human,
or participate in joint production deals with foreign producers.
Your whole country is so desperate to produce television that you suck
Hollywood's dick, underpricing Los Angeles because you throw massive
tax subsidies at Hollywood producers. It doesn't keep your own actors
employed, except as one-off guest stars and the occassional recurring
character with a handful of appearances.
Not one of the major actors on Supernatural is the least bit
Canadiddly. The two brothers are played by Texans. Bobby and Castiel
are Americans. Crowley is played by an English actor.
You couldn't produce this show yourself? British Columbia stands in
for middle America because your own country embarasses you. It's no wonder.
This is the greatest scam ever. Let's recap:
1) You pay tax subsidies to Hollywood producers so they can bring in
American writers and American tv actors to produce television in
your country.
2) You then pay for foreign distribution rights to air an American
show produced in Canafuckme on Canadickistani television.
It would be cheaper to do the show yourself with your own actors and
writers and producers, that is, if you actually wanted your own
television industry. But you don't. You're a bunch of shitheads.
You want ours.
As a brainless Canafartistanian, you should be too embarassed to live.
Has there been an all Canadian production exported since SCTV?
In article <7r2dnbQAQPEVLt7SnZ2dnUVZ_rOdn...@earthlink.com>,
"Steven L." <sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Folks seem to forget that on commercial TV, a show has to make money. > That means either its ratings are so high that it attracts rich
> sponsors--or its production costs are so low that it doesn't need rich > sponsors.
I've assumed from the beginning that that was the excuse for all those fake reality shows. There are so many people who will do ANYTHING to get on TV that they don't need to pay them.
> In article<7r2dnbQAQPEVLt7SnZ2dnUVZ_rOdn...@earthlink.com>,
> "Steven L."<sdlit...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Folks seem to forget that on commercial TV, a show has to make money.
>> That means either its ratings are so high that it attracts rich
>> sponsors--or its production costs are so low that it doesn't need rich
>> sponsors.
> I've assumed from the beginning that that was the excuse for all those
> fake reality shows. There are so many people who will do ANYTHING to
> get on TV that they don't need to pay them.
The real question is why anyone *watches* the resulting dreck. I don't care how cheap it is to produce -- if it gets zero viewers it's still a money sink. If people would only stop *watching* that cheap crap maybe the networks would put more decent scripted shows on again, including more sci-fi (voldemort's chief complaint), and stop playing games with their schedules (which practice, for some odd reason, does seem to be linked to airing "reality" TV).
> voldemort wrote:
>> On 21/02/2012 10:20 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>> voldemort<voldem...@hogwarts.ie> wrote:
>>>> On 21/02/2012 9:42 AM, Steven L. wrote:
>>>>> You forgot about:
>>>>> Supernatural
>>>> Cable.
>>> No, it's on a broadcast network.
>> You are confused. I've never seen it listed on any station except the
>> sci-fi channel. Which is cable-only, as you surely know.
> voldemort wrote:
>> The station must have included it as part of independent programming.
>> I never see it listed here in network primetime grids, and have to go
>> up into the hundreds to find it in the interactive guide.
> Supernatural airs on the CW broadcast network on Friday nights from 8:00
> to 9:00 p.m. Central time. I don't know what times it airs in the other
> time zones.
There's a difference between "airs on your local CW affiliate" and "airs on the CW broadcast network".
voldemort wrote:
> On 21/02/2012 11:37 AM, suzeeq wrote:
>> voldemort wrote:
>>> On 21/02/2012 10:20 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>>> voldemort<voldem...@hogwarts.ie> wrote:
>>>>> On 21/02/2012 9:42 AM, Steven L. wrote:
>>>>>> You forgot about:
>>>>>> Supernatural
>>>>> Cable.
>>>> No, it's on a broadcast network.
>>> You are confused. I've never seen it listed on any station except the
>>> sci-fi channel. Which is cable-only, as you surely know.
>> No you're just watching it in Canada
> You are really, *really* confused.
Okay so you're not watching it because it's on cable...? Watch it on the CW site then.
voldemort wrote:
> On 21/02/2012 11:55 AM, Fred Ellis wrote:
>> voldemort wrote:
>>> The station must have included it as part of independent programming.
>>> I never see it listed here in network primetime grids, and have to go
>>> up into the hundreds to find it in the interactive guide.
>> Supernatural airs on the CW broadcast network on Friday nights from 8:00
>> to 9:00 p.m. Central time. I don't know what times it airs in the other
>> time zones.
> There's a difference between "airs on your local CW affiliate" and "airs > on the CW broadcast network".
Supernatural is a CW broadcast network show. It is part of the network's lineup of TV shows. It is listed on their network of shows they broadcast as shown on their web site.
> On 21/02/2012 10:01 AM, Steven L. wrote:
> > The reason is pretty clear.
> > The premise of a cop show is easy to grasp without a lot of detailed
> > explanation. Folks already know what cops and detectives do. They know
> > what a police station and a courtroom and a jail look like.
> > Whereas with a sf/fantasy show, the basic premise is often novel and has
> > to be explained--in detail.
> But that's exactly what makes those shows interesting, and the rest of
> them boring. We don't *need* yet another lawyer show. It will be the
> same as all the others. But we can have an infinite variety of sci-fi shows!
> > The premise of a show like Terra Nova isn't going to be understood
> > easily, especially if a casual viewer tuned in to the premiere episode
> > halfway through it.
> Oh, come off it. Within ten minutes it's clear it's "outpost in the
> jungle" and after one episode "outpost in dinosaur-land with some
> bad-guy humans to thicken the plot".
But who cares that a bunch of people are in dinosaur-land? WHY are they there? What are they trying to accomplish? If you don't know that, you won't stick with the show.
Perhaps the producers thought that just the "wow" factor of watching humans interacting with dinosaurs would sell the show. Sorry, no. Not after several Jurassic Park movies and a whole bunch of dinosaur shows on BBC and The Discovery Channel.
> > Lost was successful because in its premiere two-parter, the producers
> > made sure to promote the more familiar "plane crash" aspect of the
> > setting first. Viewers already understood that--they crashed, they have
> > to survive till they're rescued. The sci-fi/fantasy elements came later.
> Obviously, you didn't notice that the smoke monster was in the very
> first episode.
I did notice it.
But I also noticed that it didn't make its appearance until nightfall after the plane crash had occurred, and the survivors had been medically treated. The plane crash and its immediate aftermath was the "hook" that got viewers to watch the first half hour of the show.
I also noticed that the subsequent episodes were NOT structured around the genre elements like the monster. Instead, each was a morality play, told in flashbacks, focusing on the backstory of a particular character. Each of the characters in the ensemble cast had an episode about him.
