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Falcon Heene was reportedly the boy stuck in a hot air balloon.
(UPDATE: IT LANDED, NO ONE IS INSIDE) The six-year old is the son of
Richard and Mayumi Heene of Ft. Collins, Colo. Richard is a storm
chaser and scientist. The parents were on "Wife Swap" and returned for
the 100th episode, so information on the family is online. They
apparently sleep in their clothes so they can leap from bed and run
after a storm.
Falcon has two older brothers, Bradford and Ryo.
According to tv.com, the family was known for their risk taking. An LA
Times articles says "The Heene family, with its three rowdy boys, is
anchored by father Richard, whose anger arrives in sudden bolts
between his fringe science projects."
The ABC site says the family is "science-obsessed" and wrote the below
for their 2nd appearance:
When the Heene family aren't chasing storms, they devote their time to
scientific experiments that include looking for extraterrestrials and
building a research-gathering flying saucer to send into the eye of
the storm. In this ultimate swap, the Heenes swap lives with a psychic
mom who speaks to the dead and can control the weather, her husband
and her children -- who believe they are destined to be stars. This
show will feature aliens, punk rockers, past-life regression and, for
the first time ever, the children from the two families will face off
in a kids' table meeting. "Heene/Silver," the 100th episode of Wife
Swap, destined to become a classic!
Below is the family description for their first appearance:
Wife Mayumi (43) and storm scientist Richard (45) take their three
kids, Bradford (8), Ryo (7) and Falcon (5), out of school to go on
storm chasing missions to prove Richard's theories about magnetic
fields and gravity. If conditions are right, Mayumi wakes her family
by shouting "Storm Approaching, Storm Approaching!" into a bullhorn.
The family sleep in their clothes so they can leap out of bed and into
the storm-mobile. Richard calls Mayumi his 'ninja wife'; she maintains
equipment, drives the storm-mobile, films tornadoes and waits with the
kids while Richard jumps on his motorbike, heads into the eye of the
storm and launches rockets to measure magnetic forces. At home the
family are as chaotic as a twister: the kids have no table manners and
throw themselves around the house, and while Richard devotes every
moment to his research, he expects Mayumi to cook, clean and run the
house without any help.
He and his two brothers are in a music video on YouTube:
{{{ntv/nat group, ltd. video goes here ntvnat.com}}}
PHOTO (Falcon Center):
http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/112026/original.jpg
MORE FAMILY VIDEO:
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THE DAD ON 'THE SOUP':
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Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/15/falcon-heene-balloon-boy_n_322736.html
N.
It probably wouldn't have been such a "great landing"
if he'd have been in there; after we see how big it was,
it couldn't have supported that much weight for long.
Daddy apparently sells "kits" on youtube; if this is one
of his kits, it's not a great ad.
OR...maybe it IS? It had better not be.
Kris
> Read more at:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/15/falcon-heene-balloon-boy_n_3...
Just look at Jon and Kate Gosselin's 8 tiny exploited faces.
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They found the little BASTARD alive, hiding at home in a cardboard box
in the attic.
They should throttle the little jerk-off.
I feel sorry for them, too!! They are sooooooo cute! They look like
their dad, but I hope that's about all they inherited from him --
based on their dad's media image, of course. Don't know the guy
personally (don't wanna).
Insane in the membrane! Clearly a troubled child. This is obviously
a cry for help IMO!
I think it was staged with the help of his parents and brother(s) for a
publicity stunt.
Me, too. Absolutely. They knew their garage had an attic,
and that they needed to search the entire house.
I am so sick of these self-promoting reality TV show people.
This bunch is especially reprehensible, because while they're
teaching their kids to perform *anything* to get on TV, they're
telling them that anyone who watches TV is stupid.
Well....I think we should vote them off the planet.
Kris
Nonexistent alt.true.crime deleted
Can't trust Japs.
Yes. Beaver got trapped in a giant bowl of soup or something when he
climbed into a large billboard w/ "steam" coming from the top of it.
Good memory!!!
I didn't know this until Kris B. posted it, but:
It probably wouldn't have been such a "great landing"
if he'd have been in there; after we see how big it was,
it couldn't have supported that much weight for long.
Daddy apparently sells "kits" on youtube; if this is one
of his kits, it's not a great ad.
OR...maybe it IS? It had better not be.
Kris
........
I just got in from an out-ot-town vacation last night, but I assume this
story only happened today, while I was in my geezer class. I can't imagine
a 6-yr-old innocently taking off in a hot-air balloon, and then somehow not
being in it when it landed. (I'm assuming this isn't the type of balloon
that uses heat to get it aloft? Would a 6-yr-old know how to do all of that
preparation?) Learning that the daddy sells kits on YouTube, and that the
family was on a reality show, I'm thinking this was a gimmick to improve
sales. Perhaps CPS should look around.
Linda
Even though the kid's safe, the public over there (Denver area)
is crying out for CPS.
You can only use your kids for so long....and at least Jon and Kate
didn't let theirs cover themselves in feces and sing vulgar rap.
(Or was that mud?)
Kris
What do you learn in geezer class?
Do I need lessons?
It doesn't matter if it was feces, it was clearly meant to look like
that. And the name of the video, something about "Pussification" -
that's weird for kids that young. I was really put off as I watched it
through. WTF is going on there.
I dunno. But we should remember those names. Imagine those
boys at age 17?
Kris
> Didn't this same thing happen on an old episode of Leave It To Beaver?
>
I think it's a pretty common tv scenario, a prank that gets too much
attention.
There was some show about 1974 about some rescue squad, and while I never
saw it, apparently the first or an early episode had someone lost in the
wilds under an overturned jeep, but there was a radio so he could call for
help. Turned out to be a hoax, the kid was disabled or something and at
home all the time. I wish I could remember the name of the show, I
thought of it the moment I heard of this balloon thing (and yes, before
the news that the kid hiding).
Michael
The kid ripped off one of the plotlines from "12 Monkeys", changed it
up a little... and yet the moron networks news directors still fell
for it.
Jim
Along these lines, there was an interesting interchange between the boy's
father and Wolf Blitzer (filling in for Larry King on "Larry King Live"):
Falcon's father, meteorologist Richard Heene had said that "He says it's
because I yelled at him. I'm sorry I yelled at him."
But in a later interview with CNN's "Larry King Live," Falcon said he heard
his parents call for him from the garage. When asked by his father on-air
why he didn't respond, the boy replied, "You guys said we did this for the
show."
When Heene was pressed by Wolf Blitzer, who was filling in for King, to
explain what his son meant, he became uncomfortable, finally saying he was
"appalled" by the questions. He added that Falcon was likely referring to
all the media coverage.
Authorities say they believe the case, which launched search efforts by the
Colorado Air National Guard and Federal Aviation Administration, was
genuine.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/16/colorado.balloon.boy/index.html
The article has a link tothe segment of the show where the question was
asked. I find it interesting that Heene refused to ask his son what he
meant and instead started talking about how "appalled" he was by the
questions. I also found the children's on-camera behavior somewhat
disturbing--they seem to be unable to sit still even for a few seconds
(although the boy apparently remained in a box for a considerable period of
time).
MaryL
OMG these people aren't even AVERAGE liars! The stalling, pretending he
can't quite hear, can't quite understand, then "I'm appalled", "after
all I've been thru", "I wasn't even going to come on the show", etc. are
all part of the Liar 101 training.
And you're right, that kid in particular can't sit still for 10 seconds,
let alone 2 hours. I hope LE follows up on the hoax and charges them if
it's true (I firmly believe it is).
The saddest part is the kids being mixed up in all this.
These children should be removed from the custody of their parents.
Something bad is going to go wrong and the kids are the ones who will
pay the ultimate price.
> "SueB1863" <sueb...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:6703a28b-b416-4e42...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> > I'm glad the kid's OK, but I'm guessing the parents aren't going to be
> > happy with the huge bill they're probably going to get slapped with,
> > for wasting the valuable time of all those officials. I wonder if
> > we'll ever find out if the boys did this on their own as a prank or if
> > the parents staged it as a publicity stunt.
>
> I didn't know this until Kris B. posted it, but:
>
> It probably wouldn't have been such a "great landing"
> if he'd have been in there; after we see how big it was,
> it couldn't have supported that much weight for long.
>
> Daddy apparently sells "kits" on youtube; if this is one
> of his kits, it's not a great ad.
>
> OR...maybe it IS? It had better not be.
>
> Kris
> ........
> I just got in from an out-ot-town vacation last night, but I assume this
> story only happened today, while I was in my geezer class. I can't imagine
> a 6-yr-old innocently taking off in a hot-air balloon, and then somehow not
> being in it when it landed. (I'm assuming this isn't the type of balloon
No, it was a big flying saucer shaped thing, full of helium, that these
idiots thought the kid was inside of. Doing what, breathing helium?
> that uses heat to get it aloft? Would a 6-yr-old know how to do all of that
> preparation?) Learning that the daddy sells kits on YouTube, and that the
> family was on a reality show, I'm thinking this was a gimmick to improve
> sales. Perhaps CPS should look around.
Oh yes.
--
Stargate Universe SGU: It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU!
Estimates seem to be that it could lift maybe 100 pounds total at sea
level. There's no way it was flying around like that with a kid in it,
even a dead kid, which is the only kind of kid that could have been
inside.
I'm sure that means "100 pounds including its own weight",
which is probably 40 or 50 pounds.
On TMZ, over 20,000 people have voted...and 91% believe it's
a hoax. It was 90-91% on CNN last night, too.
Questions:
If the balloon wasn't being launched, why was it full of helium?
Do either of these parents have a job?
Who farted after Falcon said "You said we did this for a show"
on CNN last night?
Why did Falcon throw up on TV this morning?
If the kid is that afraid of his Dad, shouldn't there be an
investigation?
Since they were filming it when the kid crawled in (how?)
and filmed it taking off...and they were all around, why didn't
they realize the kid was gone?
Since mental-defective Dad built the thing, didn't he know
it wouldn't support the kid's weight?
------------
Funny comments on TMZ, like:
"I believed their 911 call...but I believed the Menendez
brothers, too"
Kris
Speaking of mental defectives, who's the idiot who keeps
listing alt.true.crime as a valid newsgroup?
There's a Mythbusters show about "how many helium balloons
would it take to lift a 40-pound child?"
Here's the summary:
http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2004/11/mythbusters_ping_pong_balls_an.html
3,500 party balloons.
Busted! This "scientist" is a failed mythbusters addict.
Kris
Jon Gosselin is Korean, dumbass
According to this article on the family's appearance on "Wife Swap"
from
their local paper, the family's into whoopi cushions.
http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20081003/NEWS01/91015025
Here's an excerpt from the 911 transcript.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,567720,00.html
Dispatcher: He does not know how to operate, so and that's gone though
too, right? And you're sure that he's in that?
RH: Yeah, we looked everywhere and then my son just said — he's
terrified — he said yeah he went inside just before it went off.
Because we have it tethered it wasn't supposed to take off.
Dispatcher: So was it running then?
RH: Well it doesn't run, it's filled with helium. And it operates off
of a million volts to move left and right — horizontal. And we were
testing it to find out what effects we could get.
Dispatcher: OK. And so it was last seen 20 minutes ago?
RH: Um, probably. I'm gonna check the time. Probably, yeah.
Dispatcher: Ok. So there's no electronics on it, there's no tracking
device, right?
RH: No, no. I don't know whether it's possible you guys could detect
the electricity that it emits, but every five minutes it comes on for
one minute, and uh, it emits a million volts on the outer skin. And
uh, if he takes a ride in it he could get electrocuted.
Dispatcher: Ok, so every five minutes it comes on for one minute and
then shuts off again.
RH: Right.
Dispatcher: And it does that to charge?
RH: No, no, no, no.
Dispatcher: Ok, ok, that's ok. How big is this machine?
RH: It's 20 feet across. Are you there? It's (?) feet high.
Dispatcher: Ok. And the wind is blowing pretty good today, which
direction is the wind blowing?
RH: Hold on one second. Who the hell is calling me?... It's blowing
southeast. So he's headed right straight for the Loveland airport. I
only hope the FAA you now was listening to me because if an aircraft
hits it, I mean you know.
Dispatcher: So it might be headed for the Fort Collins, Loveland
airport area
RH: Uh yeah, I think it's just the Loveland.
Dispatcher: Is it silver in color?
RH: Yeah, it's got aluminum foil on it, that's how it gets its charge.
Dispatcher: And its totally silver foil, right?
Also, how high was the balloon? High enough for cold air
to be a factor? I learned that from 'The Simpsons' when
Lenny and Carl went up in a lawn chair tied to lots of
balloons and the next time you saw them they were shivering
and had icicles hanging off them.
Thank you, Matt Groening.
http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20081003/NEWS01/91015025
RH: Yeah, we looked everywhere and then my son just said � he's
terrified � he said yeah he went inside just before it went off.
Because we have it tethered it wasn't supposed to take off.
Dispatcher: So was it running then?
RH: Well it doesn't run, it's filled with helium. And it operates off
of a million volts to move left and right � horizontal. And we were
RH: Right.
-------------------------------
Bwa-hah-hah.
I'm surprised the dispatcher didn't say "silver foil, like the hat you're
wearing?"
Interesting that they called the TV station first, then 911. And while
he's talking to 911, he's checking to see who's calling in on his cellphone.
I hate to demean a cereal, but Fruit Loops come to mind.
Kris
Supposedly, it first got up to 10-15,000 before sinking.
The bottom part wasn't airtight, so IF someone had been
in there, they wouldn't be breathing pure helium. But...
the bottom part was also made of cardboard, duct tape
and mylar, with maybe some thin wire. I doubt if anyone
would have stayed in for five seconds before the bottom
fell out of it....and I'm also doubtful it'd have risen at all
that fast.
Not exactly the amount of lift that Mythbusters used to
raise a 44-pound weight.
Kris
> In your earlier post, you mentioned the kid would be
> breathing helium. I've seen guys breathe in helium to
> joke around and talk funny. How long can someone breathe
> helium before it causes a problem?
Breathing helium with a bag sealed over one's head is a preferred
method of committing (relatively painless) suicide, for those so
inclined.
Marianna
>Breathing helium with a bag sealed over one's head is a preferred
>method of committing (relatively painless) suicide, for those so
>inclined.
Gotta question your polling methods there.
> Dispatcher: He does not know how to operate, so and that's gone though
> too, right? And you're sure that he's in that?
>
> RH: Yeah, we looked everywhere and then my son just said � he's
> terrified � he said yeah he went inside just before it went off.
Inside how? Where?
It's not the 'breathing helium' that's a problem; it's the 'not breathing
oxygen.' Balloon has to be sealed to keep the helium in, so you're not
breathing anything else. It would be about the same time frame as being
under water; you'd be trying to claw your way out in about 30 seconds,
not moving in a minute, brain dead shortly thereafter.
>
> Also, how high was the balloon? High enough for cold air
> to be a factor? I learned that from 'The Simpsons' when
> Lenny and Carl went up in a lawn chair tied to lots of
> balloons and the next time you saw them they were shivering
> and had icicles hanging off them.
> Thank you, Matt Groening.
The main problem with the altitude is that the thinner air and colder air
gives the balloon less lift. A little balloon like that isn't gonna lift
the kid in those conditions high enough for the cold to matter to him.
> RH: Yeah, we looked everywhere and then my son just said � he's
> terrified � he said yeah he went inside just before it went off.
> Because we have it tethered it wasn't supposed to take off.
>
> Dispatcher: So was it running then?
>
> RH: Well it doesn't run, it's filled with helium. And it operates off
> of a million volts to move left and right � horizontal. And we were
That first call, with the mother faking fear while telling the 911
operator that the flying saucer vanished at the same time as her son ...
man, our 911 operators tell you to take a hike when you call in a
believable emergency!
Uh, she's got a hell of a lot of medical training.
Figure it out.
Kris
On Mythbusters, it took 3,500 balloons to lift a 44-pound weight
enough that it hovered around an airplane hangar.
It's episode 8 in season 2.
Kris
I kinda get the idea that they've had other emergencies at
that "scientific" house. ;)
Kris
The only people that can be 'polled' are the ones that failed. So, it would
seem that it is the best method of failing?
Speaking of which . . . they're announcing these really stupid poll
results about flu shots, that a month ago 53% of people intended to get
one, and now it's only 44%, and drawing the conclusion that people are
scared and have changed their minds and aren't going to get them.
Has it occured to *anybody* that maybe, just maybe, some of us already
GOT the flu shot?? So, yes, a month ago I was intending to get it, and,
gasp, this month I'm not.
Hopefully the poll excludes those who have already received the swineflu
shot (I don't think very many people actually have, though). More likely,
the change in the poll reflects not people being scared of the shot, but
more likely people being less scared of the risk that flu actually poses.
You got the H1N1 inoculation last month? How? It was just
released on Monday. Even my daughter with the pre-existing
condition can't get one yet.
The *regular* flu shots have been available for awhile, but it's
two different things.
Kris
Well, it would be nice to know the size of the balloons, but
let's assume one cubic foot, for ease of bullshitting.
The Danger Dad balloon was said to be 20 feet in diameter, or
10 in radius, and we know (don't we?) that area = pi are square,
making 314 square feet as seen from above.
Let's assume its 10 feet "high", top to bottom, so that makes
3140 cubic feet -- only a little shy of the Mythbusters party
balloons.
However, we have still to account for the weight of the balloon
itself and its basket. I'm guessing it was heavier than 3500
party balloons plus strings.
Here's an excerpt from the 911 transcript.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,567720,00.html
Dispatcher: He does not know how to operate, so and that's gone though
too, right? And you're sure that he's in that?
RH: Yeah, we looked everywhere and then my son just said � he's
terrified � he said yeah he went inside just before it went off.
Because we have it tethered it wasn't supposed to take off.
..................................
Even if it were my flying saucer and my son, I would be hard-pressed to
answer the Dispatcher's question above.
Linda
According to this article on the family's appearance on "Wife Swap"
from
their local paper, the family's into whoopi cushions.
http://www.coloradoan.com/article/20081003/NEWS01/91015025
.............................................
During the first week, the Heenes showed Karen Martel how to launch rockets
and introduced her to their method of "crowd control" grocery shopping,
which includes racing the kids through the aisles in the cart.
During her week in charge, Martel made Richard Heene apologize to the
grocery store manager and install child safety locks on the kitchen
cabinets.
Neither sat very well with Richard, whose philosophy is that kids need to be
allowed to be kids.
"They're only going to be 5 once, so let them be 5," he said.
.............................................
This man needs to undergo parenting lessons (or something) before he can
again be with his children, unsupervised. Being five years old doesn't mean
"you're as wild as a March hare and that's just great." "Racing the kids
through the aisles in the cart"??? The man's an idiot.
Linda
Don't you mean, "Psyintific"? (Or however I saw it spelled on one of his
sites.)
People may have received the seasonal flu shot (as I did, in September), but
few would have received the H1N1 shot--it only became available a week or so
ago, and then in very limited numbers in limited locations.
MaryL
I think if you own a flying saucer, you should be prepared
to answer the tough ones....even if the guy is shouting
at you while you're trying to ask questions ;)
Kris
The problem is, Linda, he's not much older than them (mentally)
himself. Ever talk to a crazy person who talks really fast and
tries to baffle you with BS? That's Heene.
Kris
Surprised the manager didn't kick them out and ban them from the
premises for that. Maybe he likes the idea of an injured shopper suing
the store.
They took the site down, not realizing the videos are all over youtube ;)
I think it was thepsyciencedetectives.com
This is worth watching....and the comments are absolutely hilarious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXHHjoGmExw
"Richard Cranium" - bwahahaha
Kris
I'll bet the store was closed at the time, and the entire
thing was staged.
Kris
C'mon. You didn't really watch all 6+ minutes of that did you? No way!? I
liked the one poster who said that if chimps could talk, they'd be those 3,
ha!
jc
No, I didn't watch it all. I've tried to, twice. Got about a minute
in, stopped it. Loved the comment about the chimp, too.
Actually, that's only one part of about ten.
Kris
Hilarious (at least, the first minute of it is--that's all I could bear to
watch). Of course, that video is hilarious/stupid (for lack of a better
term) and not hilarious/funny.
MaryL
The problem in this case isn't that it's a "tough" question. The problem is
that the question doesn't make any sense.
MaryL
It makes more sense when you listen to it:
http://videos.kansascity.com/vmix_hosted_apps/p/media?id=6736128
But we have to remember: the dispatcher probably hasn't had a
flying saucer call before, and is stumbling around trying to figure
out what to ask ;)
Kris
So, what onboard equipment provides the 1,000,000 volt charge across the
flying saucer's skin? I would think that this thing would look like a giant
one of those plasma orb toys if it had been turned on while being tethered
in their back yard.
They weren't talking about H1N1, they were talking about standard flu
shots. Now it's possible the poll is about H1N1 and the idiot
newspeople got it wrong, but they said regular flu.
There were 2 c-cell batteries and some kind of "power thing" (my
words) he invented. He's so full of BS....and he's no genius.
Ever been walking down the street and some homeless guy comes
up to you and talks really really fast about him needing some
money and he starts talking about some wacky ideas? THAT is
what Heene reminds me of.
Kris
Probably about the time Glenn Beck came out and told his followers
not to get the shot. I agree with Glenn Beck. They shouldn't ;)
Kris
> Ever been walking down the street and some homeless guy comes
> up to you and talks really really fast about him needing some
> money and he starts talking about some wacky ideas? THAT is
> what Heene reminds me of.
Whenever I see someone give them money the beggar immediately goes inside
the closest convenience store and buys cigarettes...even while the person
that handed them money for 'the bus' or 'some food' is still in sight.
My father would never give money to people who approached him on the street
(or to the type that sometimes wait beside the exit from the WalMart parking
lot here, often with a small child or dog and a cardboard sign saying that
they have no food). However, he would sometimes give food to them. On one
occasion, he reached into the back seat of the car and handed a large bag of
groceries to a man standing there with a child. But no cash!
MaryL
The shot makes me sick as hell but my doctor thinks it's worth it. Last
time the injection site swelled up like a hen's egg and I could barely
raise my arm from the pain radiating from the injection site and felt
like I had the flu for 3 dates, and the idiot nurse said that since the
site didn't turn red, it wasn't related to the shot. All just
conincidence. I think they're getting some serious denial training!
People shouldn't always listen to their doctors, especially when they are
part of an organized conspiracy to peddle drugs. In the last few years, the
medical industry has been peddling *really* hard to try and convince
everyone that they will die without a flu shot each season. The truth is,
most everyone won't die, isn't at any reasonable risk of dying, and won't be
protected by the shot anyway.
> Last time the injection site swelled up like a hen's egg and I could
> barely
> raise my arm from the pain radiating from the injection site and felt
> like I had the flu for 3 dates, and the idiot nurse said that since the
> site didn't turn red, it wasn't related to the shot. All just
> conincidence. I think they're getting some serious denial training!
They have to keep lying about the fact that the shots make people sick or
people might stop taking them.
You're sharp! :-)
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/10/19/crimesider/entry5397059.shtml
I'd import the text, but you need to see the pictures, too.
Kris
Truly disturbed individual :-(
I vote crazy.
I vote both.
Kris
There was this debate on 'Showbiz Tonight' (HLN) about "oh, the kids
would be traumatized if they saw their parents taken away in
handcuffs; please, no handcuffs". Well, these kids were told by their
fraud parents to LIE to authorities. I think they SHOULD be seen
watching their parents taken away in handcuffs. Makes them know
there's *consequences* to their parents' actions and their involvement.