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Ian J. Ball
May 19, 2013, 1:23:56 PM5/19/13
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Saturdays continue to get dicier and dicier for original programming. It
seems the Universal is shifting the idea of "Saturday movies" from Siffy
to Chiller - the problem is, I have seen all of the movies on Chiller
already (these guys need a bigger library of movies to show...). (The
other problem is, of course, that Siffy showed explicitly "Skiffy"
flicks, whereas Chiller shows only "horror/thriller" flicks most of
which are not explicitly "Skiffy"...)
So, on a day in which there wasn't much on, I was forced to mostly hit
my DVR...:
Awkward. (recorded) - "Indecent Exposure". Quite simply, this show has
too much Sadie, and not enough Lissa... :/
The Twilight Zone (2003 vers.) (recorded) - "Cradle of Darkness"/"Night
Route". The first episode starred a still young Katherine Heigl, and was
about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. It's actually a decent
TZ-type story, with a standard, though still unexpected, twist.
The second episode starred Ione Skye, and was much more of a 'bust'.
In fact, I'm not even sure it made sense (though I kept getting
interrupted by phone calls in the middle of it, so that's maybe why it
didn't make sense to me...). Fun fact: A very young (and more zaftig!)
Nicki Clyne (from the All New! NEW!! BSG) appeared in this episode!
(side: WEHT to Nicki Clyne?! She's done absolutely nothing since BSG...)
Psych (recorded) - "Dead Air". Hilarious. I *loved* 'a player named
Gus', the DJ. :D
This episode wasn't quite as funny as the previous episode, but a
'player named Gus' was the best bit they've done in ages!! "Awwwwwww,
yyeeeaaaaahhhhh!" :)
Hiding (Lifetime) - OK, wow - this *totally* played like a failed TV
pilot. In fact, I thought I even remembered reading something about this
project during a previous dev season, but nothing came up when I did a
search for it on Futon Critic.
But this absolutely felt like a failed ABC Family dev/pilot project.
In this one, unknown actress (to me, anyways) Ana Villafane stars as
a teen, now named "Jo", whose parents were murdered by a NYC drug lord,
and so she's put in to the witness projection program by a marshall (Dan
Payne) in the middle-of-nowhere, Montana. There, she's billeted up with
a Mom and her dorky teenage daughter (Candace Marie), and immediately
draws the interest of two "cute boys" (Jeremy Sumpter, and PLL's Tyler
Blackburn), and the ire of the local "popular" girl (recent Lifetime
staple, Kelcie Stranahan). Wackiness ensues as "Jo" tries to keep her
true identity a secret, and later tries to duck a hitman sent by the
drug lord.
The way this ended was very "this is the set up for a TV series: tune
in to the next episodes to see if Jo picks Jeremy Sumpter or Tyler
Blackburn, and escapes the snooping of evol Kelcie Stranahan...", so I
really wonder if this was a failed TV pilot. (The problem on that front
was that the high school cast wasn't big enough to sustain a TV series
IMO...)
--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!
seems the Universal is shifting the idea of "Saturday movies" from Siffy
to Chiller - the problem is, I have seen all of the movies on Chiller
already (these guys need a bigger library of movies to show...). (The
other problem is, of course, that Siffy showed explicitly "Skiffy"
flicks, whereas Chiller shows only "horror/thriller" flicks most of
which are not explicitly "Skiffy"...)
So, on a day in which there wasn't much on, I was forced to mostly hit
my DVR...:
Awkward. (recorded) - "Indecent Exposure". Quite simply, this show has
too much Sadie, and not enough Lissa... :/
The Twilight Zone (2003 vers.) (recorded) - "Cradle of Darkness"/"Night
Route". The first episode starred a still young Katherine Heigl, and was
about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. It's actually a decent
TZ-type story, with a standard, though still unexpected, twist.
The second episode starred Ione Skye, and was much more of a 'bust'.
In fact, I'm not even sure it made sense (though I kept getting
interrupted by phone calls in the middle of it, so that's maybe why it
didn't make sense to me...). Fun fact: A very young (and more zaftig!)
Nicki Clyne (from the All New! NEW!! BSG) appeared in this episode!
(side: WEHT to Nicki Clyne?! She's done absolutely nothing since BSG...)
Psych (recorded) - "Dead Air". Hilarious. I *loved* 'a player named
Gus', the DJ. :D
This episode wasn't quite as funny as the previous episode, but a
'player named Gus' was the best bit they've done in ages!! "Awwwwwww,
yyeeeaaaaahhhhh!" :)
Hiding (Lifetime) - OK, wow - this *totally* played like a failed TV
pilot. In fact, I thought I even remembered reading something about this
project during a previous dev season, but nothing came up when I did a
search for it on Futon Critic.
But this absolutely felt like a failed ABC Family dev/pilot project.
In this one, unknown actress (to me, anyways) Ana Villafane stars as
a teen, now named "Jo", whose parents were murdered by a NYC drug lord,
and so she's put in to the witness projection program by a marshall (Dan
Payne) in the middle-of-nowhere, Montana. There, she's billeted up with
a Mom and her dorky teenage daughter (Candace Marie), and immediately
draws the interest of two "cute boys" (Jeremy Sumpter, and PLL's Tyler
Blackburn), and the ire of the local "popular" girl (recent Lifetime
staple, Kelcie Stranahan). Wackiness ensues as "Jo" tries to keep her
true identity a secret, and later tries to duck a hitman sent by the
drug lord.
The way this ended was very "this is the set up for a TV series: tune
in to the next episodes to see if Jo picks Jeremy Sumpter or Tyler
Blackburn, and escapes the snooping of evol Kelcie Stranahan...", so I
really wonder if this was a failed TV pilot. (The problem on that front
was that the high school cast wasn't big enough to sustain a TV series
IMO...)
--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!
Arthur Lipscomb
May 19, 2013, 2:54:48 PM5/19/13
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On 5/19/2013 10:23 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>
> So, on a day in which there wasn't much on, I was forced to mostly hit
> my DVR...:
That's what I *should* have been doing but most of what I watched wasn't
>
> So, on a day in which there wasn't much on, I was forced to mostly hit
> my DVR...:
on the DVR.
>
>
> The Twilight Zone (2003 vers.) (recorded) - "Cradle of Darkness"/"Night
> Route". The first episode starred a still young Katherine Heigl, and was
> about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. It's actually a decent
> TZ-type story, with a standard, though still unexpected, twist.
haven't gotten around to watching it yet. I'll probably wind up
re-watching the 80s version DVDs before I watch the new one again.
> The second episode starred Ione Skye, and was much more of a 'bust'.
> In fact, I'm not even sure it made sense (though I kept getting
> interrupted by phone calls in the middle of it, so that's maybe why it
> didn't make sense to me...). Fun fact: A very young (and more zaftig!)
> Nicki Clyne (from the All New! NEW!! BSG) appeared in this episode!
> (side: WEHT to Nicki Clyne?! She's done absolutely nothing since BSG...)
>
>
I did a little bit of catching up and watched:
The Office (OnDemand) - The final three episodes. They were pretty good
with some laugh out loud moments. It wasn't the best finale ever but it
hit the right notes.
Orphan Black - episode from three weeks ago where they tie up and
interrogate the husband. OK episode.
Doctor Who - "The Name of the Doctor" - Not as good as previous finales
but still a solid episode. Although it did feel a bit like a retread of
previous finales, especially The Pandorica Opens. However the final
reveal at the end put a smile on my face. And for the first time ever,
I really liked Strax who had some hilarious liners.
SNL - forgettable episode but the one bright spot was the Stefon
segment. I usually don't find him funny but this time they prefilmed
the bit and it was actually funny getting to see all the freaks and
weirdos he talks about.
Cloud Atlas (blu-ray) - Epic movie which tracks certain souls from 1849
to 2321. I loved this when I saw it in the theater and it holds up very
well on second viewing. And thanks to the miracle of closed captioning,
I could read what they were saying in the harder to follow future
segments, which anyone who has seen this movie knows, that's the true
true. :-)
Star Trek: Into Darkness (theatrical) - I had to see it a second time.
It still has a definite Star Wars feel to it but at least I noticed a
few things I didn't notice the first time around. Unfortunately, I also
noticed a couple of huge plot holes that escaped my attention the first
time.
Ian J. Ball
May 19, 2013, 3:01:32 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 11:54 am, Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org>
wrote:
really isn't much of one...) in this episode.
wrote:
> On 5/19/2013 10:23 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>
> > So, on a day in which there wasn't much on, I was forced to mostly hit
> > my DVR...:
>
>
> > So, on a day in which there wasn't much on, I was forced to mostly hit
> > my DVR...:
>
> > The Twilight Zone (2003 vers.) (recorded) - "Cradle of Darkness"/"Night
> > Route". The first episode starred a still young Katherine Heigl, and was
> > about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. It's actually a decent
> > TZ-type story, with a standard, though still unexpected, twist.
>
> I think I vaguely remember this one. I have the new version on DVD but
> haven't gotten around to watching it yet. I'll probably wind up
> re-watching the 80s version DVDs before I watch the new one again.
>
> > The second episode starred Ione Skye, and was much more of a 'bust'.
> > In fact, I'm not even sure it made sense (though I kept getting
> > interrupted by phone calls in the middle of it, so that's maybe why it
> > didn't make sense to me...). Fun fact: A very young (and more zaftig!)
> > Nicki Clyne (from the All New! NEW!! BSG) appeared in this episode!
> > (side: WEHT to Nicki Clyne?! She's done absolutely nothing since BSG...)
>
> OK, but what was the episode about?!?!
Even recapping the basic outlines would give away the "twist" (which
> > Route". The first episode starred a still young Katherine Heigl, and was
> > about going back in time to kill baby Hitler. It's actually a decent
> > TZ-type story, with a standard, though still unexpected, twist.
>
> I think I vaguely remember this one. I have the new version on DVD but
> haven't gotten around to watching it yet. I'll probably wind up
> re-watching the 80s version DVDs before I watch the new one again.
>
> > The second episode starred Ione Skye, and was much more of a 'bust'.
> > In fact, I'm not even sure it made sense (though I kept getting
> > interrupted by phone calls in the middle of it, so that's maybe why it
> > didn't make sense to me...). Fun fact: A very young (and more zaftig!)
> > Nicki Clyne (from the All New! NEW!! BSG) appeared in this episode!
> > (side: WEHT to Nicki Clyne?! She's done absolutely nothing since BSG...)
>
> OK, but what was the episode about?!?!
really isn't much of one...) in this episode.
Arthur Lipscomb
May 19, 2013, 3:28:22 PM5/19/13
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often hard to recap without giving away the obvious twist at the end.
I forgot to mention I also watched Superman Unbound (blu-ray) - Superman
with a little help from Supergirl have to stop Brainiac from destroying
earth and rescue those already shrunken on his ship. On the commentary
they mentioned that while it wasn't written as a sequel it could be
thought of as an unofficial sequel to Superman/Batman Apocalypse since
it doesn't contradict that movie.
I was disappointed with the overall movie. I can't exactly put my
finger on it but it just wasn't as good as the previous movies and the
feel was all wrong. Unlike the previous animated movies the inclusion
of blood and gore seemed really out of place and gratuitous. It works
in a Batman animated movie and it worked when Superman was fighting the
Elite but in a Brainiac story it was wrong. There's a shot of Lois
flipping the bird. It sort of shocking to see that in an animated
Superman movie but at the same time why is it there. It doesn't belong.
At least the preview for the next one, Justice League: The Flashpoint
Paradox, looks good.
tenworld
May 19, 2013, 3:45:01 PM5/19/13
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On Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:54:48 AM UTC-7, Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
> Star Trek: Into Darkness (theatrical) - I had to see it a second time.
>
> It still has a definite Star Wars feel to it but at least I noticed a
>
> few things I didn't notice the first time around. Unfortunately, I also
>
> noticed a couple of huge plot holes that escaped my attention the first
>
> time.
isnt it just about the characters?
> Star Trek: Into Darkness (theatrical) - I had to see it a second time.
>
> It still has a definite Star Wars feel to it but at least I noticed a
>
> few things I didn't notice the first time around. Unfortunately, I also
>
> noticed a couple of huge plot holes that escaped my attention the first
>
> time.
While I consider ST to be SciFi and SW fantasy, we trekkies do owe a big debt to Lucas since it was the success of A New Hope that made ST movies possible, especially after the first one was a dud.
anim8rFSK
May 19, 2013, 5:31:44 PM5/19/13
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In article <e312bab4-d0cd-4d80...@googlegroups.com>,
Um ... what? The first Star Trek movie was 2 years after the first Star
Wars movie (which was *not* called 'A New Hope' - that's the retcon) and
made a ton of money. Paramount cooked the books on it to include a
decade of failed projects, but it was very successful.
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Wars movie (which was *not* called 'A New Hope' - that's the retcon) and
made a ton of money. Paramount cooked the books on it to include a
decade of failed projects, but it was very successful.
--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."
Ian J. Ball
May 19, 2013, 5:37:43 PM5/19/13
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On May 19, 12:28 pm, Arthur Lipscomb <art...@alum.calberkeley.org>
I've had time to reflect on what happened in "Night Route", and I
think I've figure out how it ended - it was actually a double(-back)
'twist' ending, so it's actually a little better than might synopsis
above, though it was still nowhere near as good as "Cradle of
Darkness".
Also, I forgot something pretty important that I watched yesterday:
Whilst looking through my TWC's OnDemand selection, and realizing that
"Top of the Lake" has already disappeared from the OnDemand
library... :/ ...I stumbled across something else in the Siffy
channel OnDemand section...:
Nuclear Family (OnDemand) - This was originally a 20-episode
"webisode" series that I guess Siffy picked up and put on Siffy.com -
fortunately for me they also put it on OnDemand.
This stars Corin Nemec (and was co-produced by him as well), and
ran probably about 90 minutes all together. In this Nemec stars as an
(ex-)husband and father of an (ex-)wife and a teenage daughter, and a
missing younger son that they're searching for, in a post-nuclear
Apocalyptic area of the country (California?... they never say for
sure). They start getting to the backstory in Episode #2, and revisit
it with some other characters in some later episodes.
Now, about halfway through, there's a "twist" that's revealed that
both explains and justifies the situation they're all in -
unfortunately, it also upends the original concept in a way I really
didn't care for (I would have preferred that they just played it
straight...).
But this was pretty well cast - in addition to Nemec, Ray Wise is
pretty prominent in this, and Danielle Harris, Olivia D'Abo and Sharon
Lawrence all turn up as well.
All in all, this finished in such a way that the "finale" kind of
works as a "season finale" - the 20 episode's main arcs are mostly
resolved, but there were a few outstanding issues that could have gone
in to making a "second season" (though it doesn't look like one's
going to get made...).
think I've figure out how it ended - it was actually a double(-back)
'twist' ending, so it's actually a little better than might synopsis
above, though it was still nowhere near as good as "Cradle of
Darkness".
Also, I forgot something pretty important that I watched yesterday:
Whilst looking through my TWC's OnDemand selection, and realizing that
"Top of the Lake" has already disappeared from the OnDemand
library... :/ ...I stumbled across something else in the Siffy
channel OnDemand section...:
Nuclear Family (OnDemand) - This was originally a 20-episode
"webisode" series that I guess Siffy picked up and put on Siffy.com -
fortunately for me they also put it on OnDemand.
This stars Corin Nemec (and was co-produced by him as well), and
ran probably about 90 minutes all together. In this Nemec stars as an
(ex-)husband and father of an (ex-)wife and a teenage daughter, and a
missing younger son that they're searching for, in a post-nuclear
Apocalyptic area of the country (California?... they never say for
sure). They start getting to the backstory in Episode #2, and revisit
it with some other characters in some later episodes.
Now, about halfway through, there's a "twist" that's revealed that
both explains and justifies the situation they're all in -
unfortunately, it also upends the original concept in a way I really
didn't care for (I would have preferred that they just played it
straight...).
But this was pretty well cast - in addition to Nemec, Ray Wise is
pretty prominent in this, and Danielle Harris, Olivia D'Abo and Sharon
Lawrence all turn up as well.
All in all, this finished in such a way that the "finale" kind of
works as a "season finale" - the 20 episode's main arcs are mostly
resolved, but there were a few outstanding issues that could have gone
in to making a "second season" (though it doesn't look like one's
going to get made...).
David Johnston
May 19, 2013, 6:06:55 PM5/19/13
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ELEMENTARY ***
I thought the casting of Irene Adler was first rate. Very sly quality
to that woman.
DOCTOR WHO ***
There was a rather fanfic-like quality to Clara's new role in the
Doctor's history. The know-it-all self-insert who acts as spectator and
guardian angel. Really bad cut to commercial that cut off the last two
words of "welcome to the tome of the Doctor".
ORPHAN BLACK ****
Cosima and the French chick unleash their most powerful weapon against
the conspiracy...hot girl-on-girl action. Cosima is being stupid
leaving the girl she believes to be a spy in her room to snoop about.
But apparently she's good enough in bed that the spy does hold back some
of the information she finds. Alison continues to basically be crazy.
Meanwhile the cops actually make quite a lot of progress toward figuring
out "clones". And Doctor Max Headroom graduates from sketchy to James
Bond villain.
IN THE FLESH ***
Our...protagonist, a zombie tormented by flashbacks of his last meal,
returns to the small town that gave him birth, the town where he
committed suicide and came back. These zombies are Russo zombies, not
Romero zombies meaning that they're intelligent as long as they have
recently consumed brain tissue but get dumber and more feral the longer
they are deprived. The "medication" that makes them manageable is a
dose of the required brain chemicals.
And yeah, it's still kinda horrifying.
COLORFUL, THE MOVIE ***
A deceased spirit, stripped of it's memory by death, who "committed a
great mistake" is offered the chance to be returned to the body of
someone who just committed suicide by an agent of God. Predictable plot
"twist" ensues. But then that's not what its about.
AMERICA'S BOOK OF SECRETS ***
Somewhat to my surprise this was available to me on demand even though
it's a "by subscription" and I am not subscribed to History 2. I
checked and there's no free preview going on. Just a programming oops.
In any case the one I looked at was Area 51 so of course it had UFO
talk in addition to the more factual stuff about U-2s and SR 71s. The
next one is the Playboy Mansion so now I'm curious if they can come with
crazy talk about it.
I thought the casting of Irene Adler was first rate. Very sly quality
to that woman.
DOCTOR WHO ***
There was a rather fanfic-like quality to Clara's new role in the
Doctor's history. The know-it-all self-insert who acts as spectator and
guardian angel. Really bad cut to commercial that cut off the last two
words of "welcome to the tome of the Doctor".
ORPHAN BLACK ****
Cosima and the French chick unleash their most powerful weapon against
the conspiracy...hot girl-on-girl action. Cosima is being stupid
leaving the girl she believes to be a spy in her room to snoop about.
But apparently she's good enough in bed that the spy does hold back some
of the information she finds. Alison continues to basically be crazy.
Meanwhile the cops actually make quite a lot of progress toward figuring
out "clones". And Doctor Max Headroom graduates from sketchy to James
Bond villain.
IN THE FLESH ***
Our...protagonist, a zombie tormented by flashbacks of his last meal,
returns to the small town that gave him birth, the town where he
committed suicide and came back. These zombies are Russo zombies, not
Romero zombies meaning that they're intelligent as long as they have
recently consumed brain tissue but get dumber and more feral the longer
they are deprived. The "medication" that makes them manageable is a
dose of the required brain chemicals.
And yeah, it's still kinda horrifying.
COLORFUL, THE MOVIE ***
A deceased spirit, stripped of it's memory by death, who "committed a
great mistake" is offered the chance to be returned to the body of
someone who just committed suicide by an agent of God. Predictable plot
"twist" ensues. But then that's not what its about.
AMERICA'S BOOK OF SECRETS ***
Somewhat to my surprise this was available to me on demand even though
it's a "by subscription" and I am not subscribed to History 2. I
checked and there's no free preview going on. Just a programming oops.
In any case the one I looked at was Area 51 so of course it had UFO
talk in addition to the more factual stuff about U-2s and SR 71s. The
next one is the Playboy Mansion so now I'm curious if they can come with
crazy talk about it.
anim8rFSK
May 19, 2013, 6:27:17 PM5/19/13
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In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-A74...@news.eternal-september.org>,
Marshall Marshall moving her to Albuquerque?
<ijball-NO_SPAM-A74...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> Hiding (Lifetime) - OK, wow - this *totally* played like a failed TV
> pilot. In fact, I thought I even remembered reading something about this
> project during a previous dev season, but nothing came up when I did a
> search for it on Futon Critic.
> But this absolutely felt like a failed ABC Family dev/pilot project.
> In this one, unknown actress (to me, anyways) Ana Villafane stars as
> a teen, now named "Jo", whose parents were murdered by a NYC drug lord,
> and so she's put in to the witness projection program by a marshall (Dan
> Payne) in the middle-of-nowhere, Montana. There, she's billeted up with
> a Mom and her dorky teenage daughter (Candace Marie), and immediately
> draws the interest of two "cute boys" (Jeremy Sumpter, and PLL's Tyler
> Blackburn), and the ire of the local "popular" girl (recent Lifetime
> staple, Kelcie Stranahan). Wackiness ensues as "Jo" tries to keep her
> true identity a secret, and later tries to duck a hitman sent by the
> drug lord.
> The way this ended was very "this is the set up for a TV series: tune
> in to the next episodes to see if Jo picks Jeremy Sumpter or Tyler
> Blackburn, and escapes the snooping of evol Kelcie Stranahan...", so I
> really wonder if this was a failed TV pilot. (The problem on that front
> was that the high school cast wasn't big enough to sustain a TV series
> IMO...)
Wait - if the drug lord already found her and sent a hitman, why isn't
> Hiding (Lifetime) - OK, wow - this *totally* played like a failed TV
> pilot. In fact, I thought I even remembered reading something about this
> project during a previous dev season, but nothing came up when I did a
> search for it on Futon Critic.
> But this absolutely felt like a failed ABC Family dev/pilot project.
> In this one, unknown actress (to me, anyways) Ana Villafane stars as
> a teen, now named "Jo", whose parents were murdered by a NYC drug lord,
> and so she's put in to the witness projection program by a marshall (Dan
> Payne) in the middle-of-nowhere, Montana. There, she's billeted up with
> a Mom and her dorky teenage daughter (Candace Marie), and immediately
> draws the interest of two "cute boys" (Jeremy Sumpter, and PLL's Tyler
> Blackburn), and the ire of the local "popular" girl (recent Lifetime
> staple, Kelcie Stranahan). Wackiness ensues as "Jo" tries to keep her
> true identity a secret, and later tries to duck a hitman sent by the
> drug lord.
> The way this ended was very "this is the set up for a TV series: tune
> in to the next episodes to see if Jo picks Jeremy Sumpter or Tyler
> Blackburn, and escapes the snooping of evol Kelcie Stranahan...", so I
> really wonder if this was a failed TV pilot. (The problem on that front
> was that the high school cast wasn't big enough to sustain a TV series
> IMO...)
Marshall Marshall moving her to Albuquerque?
anim8rFSK
May 19, 2013, 6:30:28 PM5/19/13
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In article
<3e57031b-d98a-4f49...@wg15g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
chunk now? And is it worth pursuing to the end?
<3e57031b-d98a-4f49...@wg15g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> wrote:
> Nuclear Family (OnDemand) - This was originally a 20-episode
> "webisode" series that I guess Siffy picked up and put on Siffy.com -
> fortunately for me they also put it on OnDemand.
> This stars Corin Nemec (and was co-produced by him as well), and
> ran probably about 90 minutes all together. In this Nemec stars as an
> (ex-)husband and father of an (ex-)wife and a teenage daughter, and a
> missing younger son that they're searching for, in a post-nuclear
> Apocalyptic area of the country (California?... they never say for
> sure). They start getting to the backstory in Episode #2, and revisit
> it with some other characters in some later episodes.
> Now, about halfway through, there's a "twist" that's revealed that
> both explains and justifies the situation they're all in -
> unfortunately, it also upends the original concept in a way I really
> didn't care for (I would have preferred that they just played it
> straight...).
> But this was pretty well cast - in addition to Nemec, Ray Wise is
> pretty prominent in this, and Danielle Harris, Olivia D'Abo and Sharon
> Lawrence all turn up as well.
> All in all, this finished in such a way that the "finale" kind of
> works as a "season finale" - the 20 episode's main arcs are mostly
> resolved, but there were a few outstanding issues that could have gone
> in to making a "second season" (though it doesn't look like one's
> going to get made...).
Okay, I watched 4 or 5 of these and forgot all about it. Is it one
> Nuclear Family (OnDemand) - This was originally a 20-episode
> "webisode" series that I guess Siffy picked up and put on Siffy.com -
> fortunately for me they also put it on OnDemand.
> This stars Corin Nemec (and was co-produced by him as well), and
> ran probably about 90 minutes all together. In this Nemec stars as an
> (ex-)husband and father of an (ex-)wife and a teenage daughter, and a
> missing younger son that they're searching for, in a post-nuclear
> Apocalyptic area of the country (California?... they never say for
> sure). They start getting to the backstory in Episode #2, and revisit
> it with some other characters in some later episodes.
> Now, about halfway through, there's a "twist" that's revealed that
> both explains and justifies the situation they're all in -
> unfortunately, it also upends the original concept in a way I really
> didn't care for (I would have preferred that they just played it
> straight...).
> But this was pretty well cast - in addition to Nemec, Ray Wise is
> pretty prominent in this, and Danielle Harris, Olivia D'Abo and Sharon
> Lawrence all turn up as well.
> All in all, this finished in such a way that the "finale" kind of
> works as a "season finale" - the 20 episode's main arcs are mostly
> resolved, but there were a few outstanding issues that could have gone
> in to making a "second season" (though it doesn't look like one's
> going to get made...).
chunk now? And is it worth pursuing to the end?
Ian J. Ball
May 19, 2013, 7:10:50 PM5/19/13
to
On May 19, 3:30 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article
> <3e57031b-d98a-4f49-9bf6-a945f23f6...@wg15g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Not on TWC - here is was 20 separate 3-8 minute-sized episode
"chunks".
> And is it worth pursuing to the end?
I liked it through Episode #10 or so. Then I pretty much hated pro'lly
the next 5 (this was the "conspiracy" part, that pretty much ruined
the original premise). Then I thought it got better in the last 5 or
so (after Danielle Harris shows up).
Overall: I'm glad I watched it, but I wouldn't watch it again.
Aside: I stumbled upon the supposed existence of another post-
Apocalyptic web series some time back - it was apparently about a
family trying to survive when the Earth's orbit was changed, and it
basically turns Earth into "snowball Earth" or something - Does anyone
know what I'm talking about, and what this webseries is called (and
who stars in it?!) (I'm pretty sure I only discovered this on IMDb one
time, and now I can't find it... :( )
> In article
> <3e57031b-d98a-4f49-9bf6-a945f23f6...@wg15g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
"chunks".
> And is it worth pursuing to the end?
the next 5 (this was the "conspiracy" part, that pretty much ruined
the original premise). Then I thought it got better in the last 5 or
so (after Danielle Harris shows up).
Overall: I'm glad I watched it, but I wouldn't watch it again.
Aside: I stumbled upon the supposed existence of another post-
Apocalyptic web series some time back - it was apparently about a
family trying to survive when the Earth's orbit was changed, and it
basically turns Earth into "snowball Earth" or something - Does anyone
know what I'm talking about, and what this webseries is called (and
who stars in it?!) (I'm pretty sure I only discovered this on IMDb one
time, and now I can't find it... :( )
Ian J. Ball
May 19, 2013, 7:14:26 PM5/19/13
to
> <ijball-NO_SPAM-A740BA.10235619052...@news.eternal-september.org>,
That was a big plot hole - check the IMDb comments about that: they
shredded the end of the movie, especially for this...
Ian (Basically, I think the answer is that the hitman either never
told the drug lord where he was (he wanted to get paid first, before
killing "Jo"...), or only said "Montana" to the drug lord and wasn't
more specific. But, if the latter, it's still a plot hole... However,
maybe that would have been important angle if it had gone to series -
the drug lord continually sending guys to Montana to try and find
her...)
shredded the end of the movie, especially for this...
Ian (Basically, I think the answer is that the hitman either never
told the drug lord where he was (he wanted to get paid first, before
killing "Jo"...), or only said "Montana" to the drug lord and wasn't
more specific. But, if the latter, it's still a plot hole... However,
maybe that would have been important angle if it had gone to series -
the drug lord continually sending guys to Montana to try and find
her...)
anim8rFSK
May 19, 2013, 9:18:40 PM5/19/13
to
David Barnett
May 20, 2013, 6:12:29 AM5/20/13
to
Yesterday, Sunday, May 19, I watched:
NIKITA: Til Death Do Us Part
A disappointing endi ng, as someone else posted.
DOCTOR WHO: The Name of the Doctor
I rather liked this episode for a change, despite the
valid snarks in other posts.
Today, Mon May 20, I watched:
LEWIS: Generation of Vipers
Our Channel 7 seems to be showing one episode of the
latest season of this UK show per month.
HAWAII 5-0: Ho'opio (To Extinguish)
English title as in epguides.com, but here said to be "To
take captive".
GRIMM: The Waking Dead
This show is never boring for me; IOW I lke it and I am
looking forward to the Season final.
CSI: Sheltered
Only about 6 weeks behind the US.
I thought it was a bit far fetched that he went
underground with his daughter for so long.
--
David Barnett
Ubiquitous
May 20, 2013, 6:27:15 AM5/20/13
to
I watched:
A DECADE PF THE WALTONS:
A weird clip show with a confusing wrap-around of Grandma Walton's
birthday which was interupted by Earl Hammner in order to introduce the
actors to their real-life counterparts.
FAMILY GUY:
"Road to Vegas". Stewie and Brian accidentally make copies of themselves
when using Stewie's teleportation machine to visit Vegas.
FAMILY GUY:
"No Country Club for Old Men". The Griffins are invited to join an
exclusive country club after Chris starts dating the owner's daughter.
Peterschmit gets kicked out.
What did you watch?
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
A DECADE PF THE WALTONS:
A weird clip show with a confusing wrap-around of Grandma Walton's
birthday which was interupted by Earl Hammner in order to introduce the
actors to their real-life counterparts.
FAMILY GUY:
"Road to Vegas". Stewie and Brian accidentally make copies of themselves
when using Stewie's teleportation machine to visit Vegas.
FAMILY GUY:
"No Country Club for Old Men". The Griffins are invited to join an
exclusive country club after Chris starts dating the owner's daughter.
Peterschmit gets kicked out.
What did you watch?
--
"Re-electing Obama is like backing The Titanic up and hitting the
iceberg a second time."
Ian J. Ball
May 20, 2013, 9:44:11 AM5/20/13
to
In article <knctih$ei2$1...@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> What did you watch?
On a day when I did some end-of-the-semester grading to start to wrap
things up, I watched:
The Soup (recorded) - The 05/08/13 episode. This was a pretty good one -
there was at least on really good LOL moment... and no cameos this week!
:D However, E! is really starting to piss me off with their airing
schedule - for the second week in a row, "The Soup" ran so late that my
recording cut off before the very end of the episode - now I'm having to
'pad' every "Soup" DVR'ing at the end by 2 minutes, instead of just 1
minute like I used to be able to... :/
Awkward. (recorded) - "That Girl Strikes Again". This was kind of an
annoying episode, as the gang goes to some foo-foo Halloween party (put
on by an annoying new character played by Brooke Anne Smith). Basically,
the show is now contriving reasons for Jenna and Matty to break up, and
I'm not impressed. :/
golf - Somehow, Keegan Bradley who had led (earlier) in Day 3 of the
Byron Nelson in Texas, was now clearly behind in Day 4, to Korean golfer
Sang-Moon Bae. AFAICT, Bae never surrendered the lead in Day 4, and led
all the way to the end.
Defiance (recorded) - "The Serpent's Egg". Wow - this episode really
felt like *both* the 'A' and the 'B' storylines were just ripped off
from "Gunsmoke" (though "Gunsmoke" probably would have glossed over the
explicit torture part of the Irisa story). But the Nolan/Amanda story
was *literally* a "stagecoach" story... ugh! The Irisa storyline where
she tortured a guy she suspected of doing the same to her when she was a
girl was OK, though there was never any doubt in my mind that the guy
was guilty, so there wasn't much tension to the story.
But there was so much to dislike about this episode - no Mia
Kirshner, no Graham Greene, no Tony Curran & Jaime Murray. And the
producers gave me (and Fred?) another reason to despise them, when they
cranked out the awful, hideous _The Cure_ for the ending musical
montage! BLECH!!
On the plus side, if anyone wants to see Stephanie Leonidas (Irisa)
semi-nude, just fast-forward to the end of this episode.
But this episode was a major step *backwards* for this series.
Army Wives (Lifetime) - With nothing on the broadcast nets on Sunday
nights (probably from here on in until Sept...), I watched "Army Wives"
for the first time in a while.
In this one, the various husbands/boyfriends are back from duty in
Afghanistan, and everyone is having to adjust to that. In the case of
Holly's husband (Jesse McCartney), he's not adjusting well at all, and
it's hurting lil' Holly's (Elle McLemore) feelings!!
Meanwhile, it looks like PLL's Brant Daugherty, and Vicellous
Shannon(?), have joined the cast of "Army Wives", in Daugherty's case
playing a rival love interest for Gloria (Alyssa Diaz).
The Client List (Lifetime) - I also watched an entire episode of "The
Client List" for the first time. I'm happy to report that Elisabeth Rohm
at least has a job these days, as she's on this. As is Alicia Lagano,
who looks so old now... :(
Anyway, I preferred the (TV) movie version to this - at least the
movie was realistic, with JLH losing it all in the end. This series
portrays prostitution like it's a lovable lark full of adventure and
intrigue!!
Meh. :/
Recorded for later: Fatal Justice (movie of LMN with Cynthia Watros),
and Mad Men.
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> What did you watch?
On a day when I did some end-of-the-semester grading to start to wrap
things up, I watched:
The Soup (recorded) - The 05/08/13 episode. This was a pretty good one -
there was at least on really good LOL moment... and no cameos this week!
:D However, E! is really starting to piss me off with their airing
schedule - for the second week in a row, "The Soup" ran so late that my
recording cut off before the very end of the episode - now I'm having to
'pad' every "Soup" DVR'ing at the end by 2 minutes, instead of just 1
minute like I used to be able to... :/
Awkward. (recorded) - "That Girl Strikes Again". This was kind of an
annoying episode, as the gang goes to some foo-foo Halloween party (put
on by an annoying new character played by Brooke Anne Smith). Basically,
the show is now contriving reasons for Jenna and Matty to break up, and
I'm not impressed. :/
golf - Somehow, Keegan Bradley who had led (earlier) in Day 3 of the
Byron Nelson in Texas, was now clearly behind in Day 4, to Korean golfer
Sang-Moon Bae. AFAICT, Bae never surrendered the lead in Day 4, and led
all the way to the end.
Defiance (recorded) - "The Serpent's Egg". Wow - this episode really
felt like *both* the 'A' and the 'B' storylines were just ripped off
from "Gunsmoke" (though "Gunsmoke" probably would have glossed over the
explicit torture part of the Irisa story). But the Nolan/Amanda story
was *literally* a "stagecoach" story... ugh! The Irisa storyline where
she tortured a guy she suspected of doing the same to her when she was a
girl was OK, though there was never any doubt in my mind that the guy
was guilty, so there wasn't much tension to the story.
But there was so much to dislike about this episode - no Mia
Kirshner, no Graham Greene, no Tony Curran & Jaime Murray. And the
producers gave me (and Fred?) another reason to despise them, when they
cranked out the awful, hideous _The Cure_ for the ending musical
montage! BLECH!!
On the plus side, if anyone wants to see Stephanie Leonidas (Irisa)
semi-nude, just fast-forward to the end of this episode.
But this episode was a major step *backwards* for this series.
Army Wives (Lifetime) - With nothing on the broadcast nets on Sunday
nights (probably from here on in until Sept...), I watched "Army Wives"
for the first time in a while.
In this one, the various husbands/boyfriends are back from duty in
Afghanistan, and everyone is having to adjust to that. In the case of
Holly's husband (Jesse McCartney), he's not adjusting well at all, and
it's hurting lil' Holly's (Elle McLemore) feelings!!
Meanwhile, it looks like PLL's Brant Daugherty, and Vicellous
Shannon(?), have joined the cast of "Army Wives", in Daugherty's case
playing a rival love interest for Gloria (Alyssa Diaz).
The Client List (Lifetime) - I also watched an entire episode of "The
Client List" for the first time. I'm happy to report that Elisabeth Rohm
at least has a job these days, as she's on this. As is Alicia Lagano,
who looks so old now... :(
Anyway, I preferred the (TV) movie version to this - at least the
movie was realistic, with JLH losing it all in the end. This series
portrays prostitution like it's a lovable lark full of adventure and
intrigue!!
Meh. :/
Recorded for later: Fatal Justice (movie of LMN with Cynthia Watros),
and Mad Men.
Arthur Lipscomb
May 20, 2013, 11:49:41 AM5/20/13
to
On 5/20/2013 6:44 AM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> In article <knctih$ei2$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> On a day when I did some end-of-the-semester grading to start to wrap
> things up, I watched:
>
>
On a day I should have been doing a massive amount of DVR clearing, I
> In article <knctih$ei2$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
> On a day when I did some end-of-the-semester grading to start to wrap
> things up, I watched:
>
>
saw a commercial for Fast and Furious 6 and realized I had less than a
week to catch up...
The Fast and the Furious - The first movie in the franchise which I've
grown to like over time. Mostly background noise but did help to
refresh my memory about the characters and their back stories.
2 Fast 2 Furious - The only sequel without Vin Diesel. It was OK but I
barely followed the plot. Mainly background noise.
Skipping 3 for obvious continuity reasons...
Fast and Furious - I guess they were embarrassed and trying to hide the
fact this was the 4th one. These plots and how they shoehorn in the
need to drive fast flashy cars are nearly incomprehensible. Mostly
background noise but otherwise OK.
Fast Five - I hadn't seen this one since the theatrical release. I
really should have paid more attention but again it was OK. It was
mainly background noise. I did notice whenever the Rock was in a scene.
He really did add a lot to the franchise. This film is also notable
for bringing back *every* character from all the movies (except for
Lucas Black who was in 3 but for obvious continuity reasons he couldn't
be in it anyway). Now I'm ready for part 6. :-)
Game of Thrones - Another good episode which really focused on the core
characters.
The Borgias - I was only half paying attention but it was OK.
anim8rFSK
May 20, 2013, 1:13:01 PM5/20/13
to
In article <MPG.2c04a1fb7...@news.eternal-september.org>,
something else she was in, and unwisely chose ROOM AT THE TOP, an
ineptly written and directed Brit soap about a completely unlikable guy,
battling demons that were never made clear, who makes an endless series
of bad choices and comes out on top every time. Finally he manages to
get himself beaten to a pulp in an alley (the audience cheers) and gets
to marry Clara and have her father set him up in business, the end.
David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> DOCTOR WHO: The Name of the Doctor
> I rather liked this episode for a change, despite the
> valid snarks in other posts.
Having been overwhelmed with Clara Cuteness, I decided to watch
> DOCTOR WHO: The Name of the Doctor
> I rather liked this episode for a change, despite the
> valid snarks in other posts.
something else she was in, and unwisely chose ROOM AT THE TOP, an
ineptly written and directed Brit soap about a completely unlikable guy,
battling demons that were never made clear, who makes an endless series
of bad choices and comes out on top every time. Finally he manages to
get himself beaten to a pulp in an alley (the audience cheers) and gets
to marry Clara and have her father set him up in business, the end.
Jim G.
May 20, 2013, 12:52:41 PM5/20/13
to
What did I watch, you ask? :)
DOCTOR WHO (BBCA, 7 PM / The Name of the Doctor
[The Doctor's greatest secret is discovered.]
Clara helped Doc #1 pick the right TARDIS. Clara is Doc's constant. We
get kind of an anticlimactic end for the Great Intelligence. Or *is* it
the end? And then we get lots of Claras ... copies ... echoes of a sort.
And John Hurt is the Doctor--the Doctor who "broke the promise." Lots of
goodness here, but that last ten minutes or so kind of had my brain
cramping, but I liked the attempt to close some of the plotholes
involving previous doctors. And it would *seem* that my hunch was right
in that Clara really was clueless when the kids outed her with those
photos on her laptop. But again, my brain was cramping, so I may have
missed some other explanation.
Grade: A-
ORPHAN BLACK (BBCA, 8 PM) / Entangled Bank
[Sarah's actions set the Orphans against each other as she plans her
next move. Paul tries desperately to hide Sarah's existence. Alison
takes vengeance on her suspected monitor.]
Allison is getting divorced and popping pills. (The pot comes later.)
Delphine has her marching orders from Dr. Max Headroom Taggart. Helena
learns about Kira. Yeah, that's gonna end well. Mrs. S. gets a visit
from Beth's former peers and now knows that something hinky is going on.
So she heads over to Felix's bachelor(ette) pad. "Who wants mimosas?"
Heh. Allison gets laid in a minivan. In a parking lot. In broad
daylight. End zone! Cosimo gets laid by Delphine in a totally awesome
implementation of Taggart's orders to get close to her. And Beth gets
laid by Paul. So three clones get their naughty bits all tingly in this
one while poor Helena's life continues to suck. And then we get another
catfight, this time between Allison and the wife of the dude sharing her
van-bouncing escapades. Olivier learns the hard way that Taggart isn't
really good, old Taggart anymore. Kira mysteriously bonds with Helena
(when Helena shows up at Mrs. S.'s and Mrs. S and Sarah to temporarily
deaf, or something). Again, this can't end well. And, sure enough ...
One other thought: the people behind this show could have *easily* gone
the safer (arguably) and lamer (definitely) route by making this a
procedural and dragging out the clone business over a long period of
time. They could have set up Sarah as Beth and had her doing a weekly
crime-of-the-week sort of thing and investigating the clone stuff on the
side, with just enough development on the clone front to keep the skiffy
fans happy. But they didn't go that route; they didn't go with the
thinly disguised police procedural. And I love them for it. Instead,
what they've done is to put together an amazingly good story and an
amazingly good show.
Grade: A (as this thing just keeps getting more awesome each week)
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Can you and your stupid hair let us in?" -- Carlton Lassiter, PSYCH
DOCTOR WHO (BBCA, 7 PM / The Name of the Doctor
[The Doctor's greatest secret is discovered.]
Clara helped Doc #1 pick the right TARDIS. Clara is Doc's constant. We
get kind of an anticlimactic end for the Great Intelligence. Or *is* it
the end? And then we get lots of Claras ... copies ... echoes of a sort.
And John Hurt is the Doctor--the Doctor who "broke the promise." Lots of
goodness here, but that last ten minutes or so kind of had my brain
cramping, but I liked the attempt to close some of the plotholes
involving previous doctors. And it would *seem* that my hunch was right
in that Clara really was clueless when the kids outed her with those
photos on her laptop. But again, my brain was cramping, so I may have
missed some other explanation.
Grade: A-
ORPHAN BLACK (BBCA, 8 PM) / Entangled Bank
[Sarah's actions set the Orphans against each other as she plans her
next move. Paul tries desperately to hide Sarah's existence. Alison
takes vengeance on her suspected monitor.]
Allison is getting divorced and popping pills. (The pot comes later.)
Delphine has her marching orders from Dr. Max Headroom Taggart. Helena
learns about Kira. Yeah, that's gonna end well. Mrs. S. gets a visit
from Beth's former peers and now knows that something hinky is going on.
So she heads over to Felix's bachelor(ette) pad. "Who wants mimosas?"
Heh. Allison gets laid in a minivan. In a parking lot. In broad
daylight. End zone! Cosimo gets laid by Delphine in a totally awesome
implementation of Taggart's orders to get close to her. And Beth gets
laid by Paul. So three clones get their naughty bits all tingly in this
one while poor Helena's life continues to suck. And then we get another
catfight, this time between Allison and the wife of the dude sharing her
van-bouncing escapades. Olivier learns the hard way that Taggart isn't
really good, old Taggart anymore. Kira mysteriously bonds with Helena
(when Helena shows up at Mrs. S.'s and Mrs. S and Sarah to temporarily
deaf, or something). Again, this can't end well. And, sure enough ...
One other thought: the people behind this show could have *easily* gone
the safer (arguably) and lamer (definitely) route by making this a
procedural and dragging out the clone business over a long period of
time. They could have set up Sarah as Beth and had her doing a weekly
crime-of-the-week sort of thing and investigating the clone stuff on the
side, with just enough development on the clone front to keep the skiffy
fans happy. But they didn't go that route; they didn't go with the
thinly disguised police procedural. And I love them for it. Instead,
what they've done is to put together an amazingly good story and an
amazingly good show.
Grade: A (as this thing just keeps getting more awesome each week)
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Can you and your stupid hair let us in?" -- Carlton Lassiter, PSYCH
Jim G.
May 20, 2013, 1:10:06 PM5/20/13
to
Ian J. Ball sent the following on 5/19/2013 12:23 PM:
maintaining. DOCTOR WHO and ORPHAN BLACK both make Saturday nights
*very* good where original programming is concerned.
> Saturdays continue to get dicier and dicier for original programming.
That's because of that crazy boycott of BBCA that you insist on
maintaining. DOCTOR WHO and ORPHAN BLACK both make Saturday nights
*very* good where original programming is concerned.
anim8rFSK
May 20, 2013, 1:31:22 PM5/20/13
to
In article
<ijball-NO_SPAM-452...@news.eternal-september.org>,
<ijball-NO_SPAM-452...@news.eternal-september.org>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> Defiance (recorded) - "The Serpent's Egg". Wow - this episode really
> felt like *both* the 'A' and the 'B' storylines were just ripped off
> from "Gunsmoke" (though "Gunsmoke" probably would have glossed over the
> explicit torture part of the Irisa story). But the Nolan/Amanda story
> was *literally* a "stagecoach" story... ugh! The Irisa storyline where
> she tortured a guy she suspected of doing the same to her when she was a
> girl was OK, though there was never any doubt in my mind that the guy
> was guilty, so there wasn't much tension to the story.
> But there was so much to dislike about this episode - no Mia
> Kirshner, no Graham Greene, no Tony Curran & Jaime Murray. And the
> producers gave me (and Fred?) another reason to despise them
You lost me at "no Jaime Murray"
> felt like *both* the 'A' and the 'B' storylines were just ripped off
> from "Gunsmoke" (though "Gunsmoke" probably would have glossed over the
> explicit torture part of the Irisa story). But the Nolan/Amanda story
> was *literally* a "stagecoach" story... ugh! The Irisa storyline where
> she tortured a guy she suspected of doing the same to her when she was a
> girl was OK, though there was never any doubt in my mind that the guy
> was guilty, so there wasn't much tension to the story.
> But there was so much to dislike about this episode - no Mia
> Kirshner, no Graham Greene, no Tony Curran & Jaime Murray. And the
> producers gave me (and Fred?) another reason to despise them
anim8rFSK
May 20, 2013, 3:17:27 PM5/20/13
to
In article <kndlfa$o5b$1...@dont-email.me>,
Eccelston, and when he wouldn't do it they brought in Hurt as an
in-between Doctor, but I can't see the plot they seem to be going for
working for both interchangeably ...
> goodness here, but that last ten minutes or so kind of had my brain
> cramping, but I liked the attempt to close some of the plotholes
> involving previous doctors. And it would *seem* that my hunch was right
> in that Clara really was clueless when the kids outed her with those
> photos on her laptop. But again, my brain was cramping, so I may have
> missed some other explanation.
"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> What did I watch, you ask? :)
>
> DOCTOR WHO (BBCA, 7 PM / The Name of the Doctor
> [The Doctor's greatest secret is discovered.]
>
> Clara helped Doc #1 pick the right TARDIS. Clara is Doc's constant. We
> get kind of an anticlimactic end for the Great Intelligence. Or *is* it
> the end? And then we get lots of Claras ... copies ... echoes of a sort.
> And John Hurt is the Doctor--the Doctor who "broke the promise." Lots of
Where my brain is cramping is, that that was apparently supposed to be
> What did I watch, you ask? :)
>
> DOCTOR WHO (BBCA, 7 PM / The Name of the Doctor
> [The Doctor's greatest secret is discovered.]
>
> Clara helped Doc #1 pick the right TARDIS. Clara is Doc's constant. We
> get kind of an anticlimactic end for the Great Intelligence. Or *is* it
> the end? And then we get lots of Claras ... copies ... echoes of a sort.
> And John Hurt is the Doctor--the Doctor who "broke the promise." Lots of
Eccelston, and when he wouldn't do it they brought in Hurt as an
in-between Doctor, but I can't see the plot they seem to be going for
working for both interchangeably ...
> goodness here, but that last ten minutes or so kind of had my brain
> cramping, but I liked the attempt to close some of the plotholes
> involving previous doctors. And it would *seem* that my hunch was right
> in that Clara really was clueless when the kids outed her with those
> photos on her laptop. But again, my brain was cramping, so I may have
> missed some other explanation.
Ian J. Ball
May 20, 2013, 4:31:54 PM5/20/13
to
In article <anim8rfsk-5A0D2...@news.easynews.com>,
Yeah, well, they *really* lost me with the horrid _The Cure_... >:E
tenworld
May 20, 2013, 4:33:11 PM5/20/13
to
On Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:31:44 PM UTC-7, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Um ... what? The first Star Trek movie was 2 years after the first Star
>
> Wars movie (which was *not* called 'A New Hope' - that's the retcon) and
> made a ton of money. Paramount cooked the books on it to include a
> decade of failed projects, but it was very successful.
I chose A New hope over Episode (1,4) since it seemed more appropriate.
> Um ... what? The first Star Trek movie was 2 years after the first Star
>
> Wars movie (which was *not* called 'A New Hope' - that's the retcon) and
> made a ton of money. Paramount cooked the books on it to include a
> decade of failed projects, but it was very successful.
I do remember the success of it was what kept ST The Movie production going since it was well over budget and not going well, but maybe thats a retcon too.
I doubt that by itself it would have resulted in another movie.
Robin Miller
May 20, 2013, 4:55:10 PM5/20/13
to
Jim G. wrote:
>
> ORPHAN BLACK (BBCA, 8 PM) / Entangled Bank
>
> ORPHAN BLACK (BBCA, 8 PM) / Entangled Bank
> Olivier learns the hard way that Taggart isn't really good, old Taggart anymore.
Whenever semi-bad guys are restrained and defenseless in a hospital
room, you pretty much know what's coming.
--Robin
Mason Barge
May 20, 2013, 6:44:01 PM5/20/13
to
GAME OF THRONES:
I had forgotten that Tyrion actually married Sansa. It was a
little boring and I though Dinklage really over-acted his sensitivity
to her feelings. I was hoping we'd get at least the Robb Stark
wedding this week. The Main Event, Joffrey and Natalie
Dormer-character's wedding, I'm afraid we won't get until next season
:(
The scenes with Sam and the girl were very well done, I
thought. How stupid is he, exactly, to leave the obsidian knife lying
on the ground there when they run away?
The Daenerys stuff was great as usual, although I'm not sure I
like the Darion actor very much. Below par.
Also quite good were the scenes of Davos and the red witch,
whatever her name is. Melysandre?
Let's see, what else was there? Oh, a little bit of the Hound
and Arya. Great casting for the Hound and a nicely done opening bit,
as she thinks about bashing his head in with a rock while he sleeps.
And a convinceing closeup of her filthy hands made a nice comparison
to her sister's hands at the wedding.
Is anyone else perverse enough to wish Joffrey had actually
followed through with his threat and at least tried to rape Sansa in
her wedding bed?
Grade: B+ (and would have been a B if we hadn't gotten some yummy
nude Daenerys in the mix)
I had forgotten that Tyrion actually married Sansa. It was a
little boring and I though Dinklage really over-acted his sensitivity
to her feelings. I was hoping we'd get at least the Robb Stark
wedding this week. The Main Event, Joffrey and Natalie
Dormer-character's wedding, I'm afraid we won't get until next season
:(
The scenes with Sam and the girl were very well done, I
thought. How stupid is he, exactly, to leave the obsidian knife lying
on the ground there when they run away?
The Daenerys stuff was great as usual, although I'm not sure I
like the Darion actor very much. Below par.
Also quite good were the scenes of Davos and the red witch,
whatever her name is. Melysandre?
Let's see, what else was there? Oh, a little bit of the Hound
and Arya. Great casting for the Hound and a nicely done opening bit,
as she thinks about bashing his head in with a rock while he sleeps.
And a convinceing closeup of her filthy hands made a nice comparison
to her sister's hands at the wedding.
Is anyone else perverse enough to wish Joffrey had actually
followed through with his threat and at least tried to rape Sansa in
her wedding bed?
Grade: B+ (and would have been a B if we hadn't gotten some yummy
nude Daenerys in the mix)
anim8rFSK
May 20, 2013, 7:36:38 PM5/20/13
to
In article <a6484b5d-97d5-4bab...@googlegroups.com>,
"Star Wars" and we'll know what you mean. :)
"The Motion Picture opened in North America on December�7, 1979, in 859
theaters and set a box office record for highest weekend gross, making
$11,815,203 in its first weekend (generally considered to be a slow time
for the movie business). The film beat the record set by Superman
(1978), which had opened in a similar number of theaters but had been
released in late December�a busier time.[149] The Motion Picture earned
$17�million within a week.[18] At its widest domestic distribution, the
film was shown in 1,002 theaters; it grossed $82,258,456 in the United
States.[150] Overall, the film grossed $139�million worldwide."
That's on a $35m budget (Paramount claimed at the time it was $42m,
trying to stick it with Phase 2 and such).
"In the United States, The Motion Picture sold the most tickets of any
film in the franchise until 2009's Star Trek, and it remains the
highest-grossing film of the franchise worldwide adjusted for inflation"
It's hard to imagine even Paramount being stupid enough to not make
another one.
tenworld <t...@world.std.com> wrote:
> On Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:31:44 PM UTC-7, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > Um ... what? The first Star Trek movie was 2 years after the first Star
> >
> > Wars movie (which was *not* called 'A New Hope' - that's the retcon) and
> > made a ton of money. Paramount cooked the books on it to include a
> > decade of failed projects, but it was very successful.
>
> I chose A New hope over Episode (1,4) since it seemed more appropriate.
The first movie is just "Star Wars" - no ep #, no sub title. Just say
> On Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:31:44 PM UTC-7, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > Um ... what? The first Star Trek movie was 2 years after the first Star
> >
> > Wars movie (which was *not* called 'A New Hope' - that's the retcon) and
> > made a ton of money. Paramount cooked the books on it to include a
> > decade of failed projects, but it was very successful.
>
> I chose A New hope over Episode (1,4) since it seemed more appropriate.
"Star Wars" and we'll know what you mean. :)
>
> I do remember the success of it was what kept ST The Movie production going
> since it was well over budget and not going well, but maybe thats a retcon
> too.
Yep
> I do remember the success of it was what kept ST The Movie production going
> since it was well over budget and not going well, but maybe thats a retcon
> too.
>
> I doubt that by itself it would have resulted in another movie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Motion_Picture#Release
> I doubt that by itself it would have resulted in another movie.
"The Motion Picture opened in North America on December�7, 1979, in 859
theaters and set a box office record for highest weekend gross, making
$11,815,203 in its first weekend (generally considered to be a slow time
for the movie business). The film beat the record set by Superman
(1978), which had opened in a similar number of theaters but had been
released in late December�a busier time.[149] The Motion Picture earned
$17�million within a week.[18] At its widest domestic distribution, the
film was shown in 1,002 theaters; it grossed $82,258,456 in the United
States.[150] Overall, the film grossed $139�million worldwide."
That's on a $35m budget (Paramount claimed at the time it was $42m,
trying to stick it with Phase 2 and such).
"In the United States, The Motion Picture sold the most tickets of any
film in the franchise until 2009's Star Trek, and it remains the
highest-grossing film of the franchise worldwide adjusted for inflation"
It's hard to imagine even Paramount being stupid enough to not make
another one.
David Barnett
May 20, 2013, 8:01:44 PM5/20/13
to
In article <knctih$ei2$1...@dont-email.me>,
web...@polaris.net says...
> What did you watch?
I forgot to ask this question in my post with the same
title.
This morning, Tue May 21, I watched:
REVENGE: Victory
I am getting impatient to see the end of this season.
I did not care much for this episode.
--
David Barnett
web...@polaris.net says...
> What did you watch?
I forgot to ask this question in my post with the same
title.
This morning, Tue May 21, I watched:
REVENGE: Victory
I am getting impatient to see the end of this season.
I did not care much for this episode.
--
David Barnett
David Barnett
May 20, 2013, 8:01:46 PM5/20/13
to
In article <knbi5k$u5n$1...@dont-email.me>, davidjohnston29
@block.com says...
thought otherwise.
<snip>
--
David Barnett
@block.com says...
>
> ELEMENTARY ***
>
> I thought the casting of Irene Adler was first rate. Very sly quality
> to that woman.
I agree, which is to say I disagree with the posters who
> ELEMENTARY ***
>
> I thought the casting of Irene Adler was first rate. Very sly quality
> to that woman.
thought otherwise.
<snip>
--
David Barnett
Jim G.
May 21, 2013, 3:10:02 PM5/21/13
to
anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/20/2013 2:17 PM:
see things heading?
> In article <kndlfa$o5b$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> What did I watch, you ask? :)
>>
>> DOCTOR WHO (BBCA, 7 PM / The Name of the Doctor
>> [The Doctor's greatest secret is discovered.]
>>
>> Clara helped Doc #1 pick the right TARDIS. Clara is Doc's constant. We
>> get kind of an anticlimactic end for the Great Intelligence. Or *is* it
>> the end? And then we get lots of Claras ... copies ... echoes of a sort.
>> And John Hurt is the Doctor--the Doctor who "broke the promise." Lots of
>
> Where my brain is cramping is, that that was apparently supposed to be
> Eccelston, and when he wouldn't do it they brought in Hurt as an
> in-between Doctor, but I can't see the plot they seem to be going for
> working for both interchangeably ...
I'm struggling to even see the plot that they're going for. Where do you
> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> What did I watch, you ask? :)
>>
>> DOCTOR WHO (BBCA, 7 PM / The Name of the Doctor
>> [The Doctor's greatest secret is discovered.]
>>
>> Clara helped Doc #1 pick the right TARDIS. Clara is Doc's constant. We
>> get kind of an anticlimactic end for the Great Intelligence. Or *is* it
>> the end? And then we get lots of Claras ... copies ... echoes of a sort.
>> And John Hurt is the Doctor--the Doctor who "broke the promise." Lots of
>
> Where my brain is cramping is, that that was apparently supposed to be
> Eccelston, and when he wouldn't do it they brought in Hurt as an
> in-between Doctor, but I can't see the plot they seem to be going for
> working for both interchangeably ...
see things heading?
anim8rFSK
May 21, 2013, 5:17:28 PM5/21/13
to
In article <knggs8$6e7$4...@dont-email.me>,
Eccelston, so he'd be the Time War Doctor that did all the rumored bad
stuff, obliterated Daleks and killed all the Time Lords (who are in no
way shape or form remotely dead), right? You know, they missed a bet by
not assigning blame to the Doctor before, who would be the American
Doctor only seen once, right?
Anyway, it's a one shot, so I suppose there will be a lot of soul
gnashing about badness and blame and we'll move on as though it never
happened, with the only long term repercussion being that they're out of
regenerations.
"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/20/2013 2:17 PM:
> > In article <kndlfa$o5b$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> What did I watch, you ask? :)
> >>
> >> DOCTOR WHO (BBCA, 7 PM / The Name of the Doctor
> >> [The Doctor's greatest secret is discovered.]
> >>
> >> Clara helped Doc #1 pick the right TARDIS. Clara is Doc's constant. We
> >> get kind of an anticlimactic end for the Great Intelligence. Or *is* it
> >> the end? And then we get lots of Claras ... copies ... echoes of a sort.
> >> And John Hurt is the Doctor--the Doctor who "broke the promise." Lots of
> >
> > Where my brain is cramping is, that that was apparently supposed to be
> > Eccelston, and when he wouldn't do it they brought in Hurt as an
> > in-between Doctor, but I can't see the plot they seem to be going for
> > working for both interchangeably ...
>
> I'm struggling to even see the plot that they're going for. Where do you
> see things heading?
I hadn't been thinking about it but ... well, he's the Doctor before
> anim8rFSK sent the following on 5/20/2013 2:17 PM:
> > In article <kndlfa$o5b$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> What did I watch, you ask? :)
> >>
> >> DOCTOR WHO (BBCA, 7 PM / The Name of the Doctor
> >> [The Doctor's greatest secret is discovered.]
> >>
> >> Clara helped Doc #1 pick the right TARDIS. Clara is Doc's constant. We
> >> get kind of an anticlimactic end for the Great Intelligence. Or *is* it
> >> the end? And then we get lots of Claras ... copies ... echoes of a sort.
> >> And John Hurt is the Doctor--the Doctor who "broke the promise." Lots of
> >
> > Where my brain is cramping is, that that was apparently supposed to be
> > Eccelston, and when he wouldn't do it they brought in Hurt as an
> > in-between Doctor, but I can't see the plot they seem to be going for
> > working for both interchangeably ...
>
> I'm struggling to even see the plot that they're going for. Where do you
> see things heading?
Eccelston, so he'd be the Time War Doctor that did all the rumored bad
stuff, obliterated Daleks and killed all the Time Lords (who are in no
way shape or form remotely dead), right? You know, they missed a bet by
not assigning blame to the Doctor before, who would be the American
Doctor only seen once, right?
Anyway, it's a one shot, so I suppose there will be a lot of soul
gnashing about badness and blame and we'll move on as though it never
happened, with the only long term repercussion being that they're out of
regenerations.
Jim G.
May 22, 2013, 1:25:18 PM5/22/13
to
Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
> What did you watch?
GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
roles. Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
assume will be) latest bedmate. After he kills his two peers over
something other than their lack of manners around women. Melisandre is
as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
the torturer treated poor Theon last week. Can't a guy just get laid
without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind. Samwell and
Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
dagger like that again, or anything. Performance-wise, this was another
time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
at the wedding. And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
future daughter-in-law at the knees. Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
Grade: B+
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"I was wondering if you could give me some advice on how to handle
stress." -- Norma Bates, BATES MOTEL
> What did you watch?
GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
roles. Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
assume will be) latest bedmate. After he kills his two peers over
something other than their lack of manners around women. Melisandre is
as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
the torturer treated poor Theon last week. Can't a guy just get laid
without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind. Samwell and
Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
dagger like that again, or anything. Performance-wise, this was another
time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
at the wedding. And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
future daughter-in-law at the knees. Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
Grade: B+
--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
stress." -- Norma Bates, BATES MOTEL
Mason Barge
May 22, 2013, 7:00:44 PM5/22/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:25:18 -0500, "Jim G."
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>> What did you watch?
>
>GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>
>Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>roles.
Don't blame the situation. The producers did some terrible casting.
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>> What did you watch?
>
>GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>
>Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>roles.
There is nothing in the series that would not have allowed them to
cast a real teenager in this role, and it would have been a lot
better.
>Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
>assume will be) latest bedmate. After he kills his two peers over
>something other than their lack of manners around women. Melisandre is
>as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
>the torturer treated poor Theon last week.
him. She's a total psychopath though and has no compunction about
doing what is necessary.
But she needed blood from his sex organs for her spell. Plus, leeches
are completely painless, something the producers seem to have missed.
>Can't a guy just get laid
>without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind. Samwell and
>Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
>mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
>he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
>away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
>dagger like that again, or anything. Performance-wise, this was another
>time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
>wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
episode. I thought Dinklage overplayed it and really wanted to puke,
he was being so noble.
>Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
>Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
>at the wedding. And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
>future daughter-in-law at the knees.
> Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
>Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
EGK
May 22, 2013, 7:13:16 PM5/22/13
to
On Wed, 22 May 2013 19:00:44 -0400, Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:25:18 -0500, "Jim G."
><jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>>GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>>[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>>together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>>Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>>
>>Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>>huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>>her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>>far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>>does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>>roles.
>
>Don't blame the situation. The producers did some terrible casting.
>There is nothing in the series that would not have allowed them to
>cast a real teenager in this role, and it would have been a lot
>better.
Sophie Turner who plays Sansa actually only turned 17 in February according
to IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3849842/ She's just gotten very tall
since her casting.
wrote:
>On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:25:18 -0500, "Jim G."
><jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>>Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>>GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>>[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>>together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>>Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>>
>>Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>>huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>>her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>>far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>>does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>>roles.
>
>Don't blame the situation. The producers did some terrible casting.
>There is nothing in the series that would not have allowed them to
>cast a real teenager in this role, and it would have been a lot
>better.
to IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3849842/ She's just gotten very tall
since her casting.
William December Starr
May 22, 2013, 9:14:53 PM5/22/13
to
In article <5655c5a5-1e4f-415d...@z10g2000pbn.googlegroups.com>,
man as he enters some Montana community and doesn't find his target
there.
-- wds
"Ian J. Ball" <ijb...@mac.com> said:
> Ian (Basically, I think the answer is that the hitman either never
> told the drug lord where he was (he wanted to get paid first,
> before killing "Jo"...), or only said "Montana" to the drug lord
> and wasn't more specific. But, if the latter, it's still a plot
> hole... However, maybe that would have been important angle if it
> had gone to series - the drug lord continually sending guys to
> Montana to try and find her...)
It could turn into an anthology show. Each week we follow a new hit
> Ian (Basically, I think the answer is that the hitman either never
> told the drug lord where he was (he wanted to get paid first,
> before killing "Jo"...), or only said "Montana" to the drug lord
> and wasn't more specific. But, if the latter, it's still a plot
> hole... However, maybe that would have been important angle if it
> had gone to series - the drug lord continually sending guys to
> Montana to try and find her...)
man as he enters some Montana community and doesn't find his target
there.
-- wds
Ian J. Ball
May 23, 2013, 12:44:56 PM5/23/13
to
Mason Barge
May 23, 2013, 1:10:12 PM5/23/13
to
EGK
May 23, 2013, 1:14:02 PM5/23/13
to
On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:10:12 -0400, Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com>
I agree. I think her height has a lot to do with that though. Its pretty
hard to make a girl look younger when she's almost 6 feet tall.
hard to make a girl look younger when she's almost 6 feet tall.
Mason Barge
May 23, 2013, 1:49:13 PM5/23/13
to
>>She's not just tall, she's very mature-looking.
>
>I agree. I think her height has a lot to do with that though. Its pretty
>hard to make a girl look younger when she's almost 6 feet tall.
Stars and she looked 16. She's 5'10" and willowy, though, whereas the
girl on GofT is more average in build.
Ian J. Ball
May 23, 2013, 1:58:41 PM5/23/13
to
On May 23, 10:49 am, Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:14:02 -0400, EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:10:12 -0400, Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com>
> On Thu, 23 May 2013 13:14:02 -0400, EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >>>On Wed, 22 May 2013 19:00:44 -0400, Mason Barge <masonba...@gmail.com>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>>On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:25:18 -0500, "Jim G."
> >>>><jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>
> >>>>>> What did you watch?
>
> >>>>>GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
> >>>>>[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
> >>>>>together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
> >>>>>Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>
> >>>>>Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
> >>>>>huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
> >>>>>her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
> >>>>>far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
> >>>>>does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
> >>>>>roles.
>
> >>>>Don't blame the situation. The producers did some terrible casting.
> >>>>There is nothing in the series that would not have allowed them to
> >>>>cast a real teenager in this role, and it would have been a lot
> >>>>better.
>
> >>>Sophie Turner who plays Sansa actually only turned 17 in February according
> >>>to IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3849842/ She's just gotten very tall
> >>>since her casting.
>
> Wow, I just looked at the imdb photo. She looks 30!
That's what I'm sayin'!!
> >>>>On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:25:18 -0500, "Jim G."
> >>>><jimgy...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> >>>>>Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>
> >>>>>> What did you watch?
>
> >>>>>GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
> >>>>>[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
> >>>>>together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
> >>>>>Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>
> >>>>>Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
> >>>>>huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
> >>>>>her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
> >>>>>far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
> >>>>>does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
> >>>>>roles.
>
> >>>>Don't blame the situation. The producers did some terrible casting.
> >>>>There is nothing in the series that would not have allowed them to
> >>>>cast a real teenager in this role, and it would have been a lot
> >>>>better.
>
> >>>Sophie Turner who plays Sansa actually only turned 17 in February according
> >>>to IMDB. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3849842/ She's just gotten very tall
> >>>since her casting.
>
> Wow, I just looked at the imdb photo. She looks 30!
Hunter
May 24, 2013, 11:04:53 AM5/24/13
to
On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:25:18 -0500, "Jim G."
<jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>> What did you watch?
>
>GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>
>Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>roles.
----
>Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>> What did you watch?
>
>GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>[A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>
>Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>roles.
According to wikipedia Sophie Turner turned 17 in February 2013. The
Third season of Game of Thrones" started filming in July 2012, so in
that scene you saw-perhaps filmed sometime in September-October 2012
she was still only 16 years old.
Another consideration: Time past very slowly on "Game of Thrones".
Only a year has past since the start of season one, if even that long
(Daenerys mentions in "Second Sons" that about a year ago she had no
dragons) but in reality GoT started filming nearly three years ago, on
July 26, 2010 so Sophie really was 14 when the series began while her
character was only 13; but of course the timeline of the show is only
moving at 1/3 speed of reality.
>
>Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
>assume will be) latest bedmate.
----
>Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
>assume will be) latest bedmate.
"Latest"? I think she has had only one lover, her barbarian husband,
she has had a couple of suitors though but nothing consumated.
>
> After he kills his two peers over
>something other than their lack of manners around women.
----
> After he kills his two peers over
>something other than their lack of manners around women.
They wanted to kill Daenerys so he is a good guy in my book. :-)
>
> Melisandre is
>as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
>the torturer treated poor Theon last week. Can't a guy just get laid
>without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind.
----
> Melisandre is
>as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
>the torturer treated poor Theon last week. Can't a guy just get laid
>without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind.
Well, at least he still got his and is not a eunuch. :-)
>
>Samwell and
>Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
>mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
>he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
>away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
>dagger like that again, or anything.
----
>Samwell and
>Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
>mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
>he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
>away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
>dagger like that again, or anything.
Prehistoric Obsidian daggers are hard to come by. :-)
>
>Performance-wise, this was another
>time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
>wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
----
>Performance-wise, this was another
>time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
>wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
Well if Sansa is only 14 she can be forgiven for being dense. I think
she will eventually end up like Lucresia Borgia on "The Borgias". Once
a nice sweet innocent and happy girl has turned into a cunning woman
who connives to commit murder. For very good reasons mind you. I don't
not find fault with her in that regard although Lucresia has already
taken the Cersei Lannister route by having sex with her brother.
Still, Sansa has suffered half the cruelty Lucresia has. And it
could've been far worse. She could've been married to Joffrey the
serial killer kid king. BTW Joffrey looked like a Warner Bros. cartoon
character when he was inhaling and exhaling very deeply after Tyrion
Lannister's very droll and cutting remarks. The guy is a pure maniac.
>
>Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
>Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
>at the wedding.
----
>Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
>Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
>at the wedding.
Tywin is one of my favorites too, but the other actors have to shine.
>
> And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
>future daughter-in-law at the knees. Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
>Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
-----
> And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
>future daughter-in-law at the knees. Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
>Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
They already are, even if Mother's Day don't exist. : Heck it is not
even Earth but some Earth like planet with an eliptical orbit that
produce 10 year long summers.
------>Hunter
"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."
-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907
Jim G.
May 24, 2013, 1:00:33 PM5/24/13
to
Mason Barge sent the following on 5/22/2013 6:00 PM:
younger than she would appear. Perhaps the trick when casting kids is to
meet their parents and find out if the parents were early or late
bloomers, and whether or not NBA stars have been known to come out of
the family. :)
>> Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
>> assume will be) latest bedmate. After he kills his two peers over
>> something other than their lack of manners around women. Melisandre is
>> as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
>> the torturer treated poor Theon last week.
>
> You're missing a point. She isn't cruel and didn't do it to torture
> him. She's a total psychopath though and has no compunction about
> doing what is necessary.
>
> But she needed blood from his sex organs for her spell. Plus, leeches
> are completely painless, something the producers seem to have missed.
I missed the bit about her needing blood specifically from his sex
organs. And painless or not, I wouldn't want a leech there! (And
removing a leech isn't always pain-free if it's not done properly.)
>> Can't a guy just get laid
>> without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind. Samwell and
>> Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
>> mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
>> he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
>> away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
>> dagger like that again, or anything. Performance-wise, this was another
>> time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
>> wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
>
> Sansa I don't like in general, but actually, she was okay in this
> episode. I thought Dinklage overplayed it and really wanted to puke,
> he was being so noble.
Assuming that he did what he was directed to do, I think that Dinklage
was great in that scene. But yeah, I think that a good argument could be
made that it was a bit overdone, but I blame that on the director.
>> Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
>> Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
>> at the wedding. And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
>> future daughter-in-law at the knees.
>
> She *was* a bit abrupt! :) Nice bit of directing.
Heady plays a good bitch. So good, in fact, that there are times when I
wonder if she's really acting...
>> Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
>> Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
>
> Oh, just wait for the weddings.
You sound like such a chick. :)
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:25:18 -0500, "Jim G."
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>> [A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>> together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>> Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>>
>> Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>> huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>> her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>> far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>> does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>> roles.
>
> Don't blame the situation. The producers did some terrible casting.
> There is nothing in the series that would not have allowed them to
> cast a real teenager in this role, and it would have been a lot
> better.
From reading through the thread, it seems that the actress is far
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>> [A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>> together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>> Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>>
>> Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>> huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>> her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>> far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>> does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>> roles.
>
> Don't blame the situation. The producers did some terrible casting.
> There is nothing in the series that would not have allowed them to
> cast a real teenager in this role, and it would have been a lot
> better.
younger than she would appear. Perhaps the trick when casting kids is to
meet their parents and find out if the parents were early or late
bloomers, and whether or not NBA stars have been known to come out of
the family. :)
>> Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
>> assume will be) latest bedmate. After he kills his two peers over
>> something other than their lack of manners around women. Melisandre is
>> as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
>> the torturer treated poor Theon last week.
>
> You're missing a point. She isn't cruel and didn't do it to torture
> him. She's a total psychopath though and has no compunction about
> doing what is necessary.
>
> But she needed blood from his sex organs for her spell. Plus, leeches
> are completely painless, something the producers seem to have missed.
organs. And painless or not, I wouldn't want a leech there! (And
removing a leech isn't always pain-free if it's not done properly.)
>> Can't a guy just get laid
>> without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind. Samwell and
>> Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
>> mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
>> he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
>> away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
>> dagger like that again, or anything. Performance-wise, this was another
>> time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
>> wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
>
> Sansa I don't like in general, but actually, she was okay in this
> episode. I thought Dinklage overplayed it and really wanted to puke,
> he was being so noble.
was great in that scene. But yeah, I think that a good argument could be
made that it was a bit overdone, but I blame that on the director.
>> Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
>> Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
>> at the wedding. And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
>> future daughter-in-law at the knees.
>
> She *was* a bit abrupt! :) Nice bit of directing.
wonder if she's really acting...
>> Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
>> Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
>
> Oh, just wait for the weddings.
Jim G.
May 24, 2013, 1:01:19 PM5/24/13
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EGK sent the following on 5/22/2013 6:13 PM:
17? That's amazing. And it's not just her height, IMO. Her face looks
far more mature than that, and even her expressions and the way that she
carries herself (and it comes through in those still shots, as well)
suggest an amazingly mature teenager.
far more mature than that, and even her expressions and the way that she
carries herself (and it comes through in those still shots, as well)
suggest an amazingly mature teenager.
Jim G.
May 24, 2013, 1:02:37 PM5/24/13
to
Hunter (Hunter) sent the following on 5/24/2013 10:04 AM:
mature-looking young woman in her early 20s, so to find that she's still
only 16 or so in those scenes has just floored me. At the rate she's
going, she's going to look like she's ready for retirement before she's
even old enough to drink legally.
> Another consideration: Time past very slowly on "Game of Thrones".
> Only a year has past since the start of season one, if even that long
> (Daenerys mentions in "Second Sons" that about a year ago she had no
> dragons) but in reality GoT started filming nearly three years ago, on
> July 26, 2010 so Sophie really was 14 when the series began while her
> character was only 13; but of course the timeline of the show is only
> moving at 1/3 speed of reality.
>>
>> Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
>> assume will be) latest bedmate.
> ----
> "Latest"? I think she has had only one lover, her barbarian husband,
> she has had a couple of suitors though but nothing consumated.
I wasn't suggesting that she's a trollop, but we have no real way of
knowing. I'm just saying that she's had a dry spell, and she seems to be
eying this guy like a lion might eye a slab of raw ribeye. :)
>> After he kills his two peers over
>> something other than their lack of manners around women.
> ----
> They wanted to kill Daenerys so he is a good guy in my book. :-)
The one, in particular, could have used some time with Miss Manners. But
then again, he was also trying to size up an opponent and was looking
for weaknesses in her and was trying to unbalance her. To her credit,
she gave him no ammo whatsoever.
>> Melisandre is
>> as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
>> the torturer treated poor Theon last week. Can't a guy just get laid
>> without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind.
> ----
> Well, at least he still got his and is not a eunuch. :-)
I don't think that he's gonna be in a hurry to bed another redhead
anytime soon, though.
>> Samwell and
>> Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
>> mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
>> he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
>> away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
>> dagger like that again, or anything.
> ----
> Prehistoric Obsidian daggers are hard to come by. :-)
I already knew that the dagger was much sharper than its bearer, but I
hadn't realized that its bearer was closer to being a spoon than a knife.
>> Performance-wise, this was another
>> time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
>> wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
> ----
> Well if Sansa is only 14 she can be forgiven for being dense. I think
> she will eventually end up like Lucresia Borgia on "The Borgias". Once
> a nice sweet innocent and happy girl has turned into a cunning woman
> who connives to commit murder. For very good reasons mind you. I don't
> not find fault with her in that regard although Lucresia has already
> taken the Cersei Lannister route by having sex with her brother.
That whole 14 bit is just going to be an ongoing problem for me, along
the lines of casting Dinklage to reprise an Andre the Giant role.
> Still, Sansa has suffered half the cruelty Lucresia has. And it
> could've been far worse. She could've been married to Joffrey the
> serial killer kid king. BTW Joffrey looked like a Warner Bros. cartoon
> character when he was inhaling and exhaling very deeply after Tyrion
> Lannister's very droll and cutting remarks. The guy is a pure maniac.
All hail King Joffrey Bieber!
>> Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
>> Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
>> at the wedding.
> ----
> Tywin is one of my favorites too, but the other actors have to shine.
>>
>> And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
>> future daughter-in-law at the knees. Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
>> Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
> -----
> They already are, even if Mother's Day don't exist.
I'll be expecting Hallmark to start making inroads on this problem
anytime now.
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 12:25:18 -0500, "Jim G."
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>> [A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>> together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>> Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>>
>> Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>> huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>> her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>> far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>> does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>> roles.
> ----
> According to wikipedia Sophie Turner turned 17 in February 2013. The
> Third season of Game of Thrones" started filming in July 2012, so in
> that scene you saw-perhaps filmed sometime in September-October 2012
> she was still only 16 years old.
So I've learned. And it's amazing. I was thinking that she was a
> <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Ubiquitous sent the following on 5/20/2013 5:27 AM:
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> GAME OF THRONES (HBO, 8 PM) / Second Sons
>> [A wedding is held at King's Landing; Tyrion and Sansa spend the night
>> together; Dany meets the Titan's Bastard; Davos demands proof; Sam and
>> Gilly meet an older gentleman.]
>>
>> Tyrion and Sansa are now man and wife, but the little guy cuts her a
>> huge break by not breaking her on their wedding night. And he promised
>> her that won't until she's ready, which will probably be never. And so
>> far, only Shae knows about it so far. As for Sansa, she's 14? So why
>> does she look 21? It must suck for TV types to cast long-term "kid"
>> roles.
> ----
> According to wikipedia Sophie Turner turned 17 in February 2013. The
> Third season of Game of Thrones" started filming in July 2012, so in
> that scene you saw-perhaps filmed sometime in September-October 2012
> she was still only 16 years old.
mature-looking young woman in her early 20s, so to find that she's still
only 16 or so in those scenes has just floored me. At the rate she's
going, she's going to look like she's ready for retirement before she's
even old enough to drink legally.
> Another consideration: Time past very slowly on "Game of Thrones".
> Only a year has past since the start of season one, if even that long
> (Daenerys mentions in "Second Sons" that about a year ago she had no
> dragons) but in reality GoT started filming nearly three years ago, on
> July 26, 2010 so Sophie really was 14 when the series began while her
> character was only 13; but of course the timeline of the show is only
> moving at 1/3 speed of reality.
>>
>> Danaerys meets (what I assume is ) her latest heartthrob and (I
>> assume will be) latest bedmate.
> ----
> "Latest"? I think she has had only one lover, her barbarian husband,
> she has had a couple of suitors though but nothing consumated.
knowing. I'm just saying that she's had a dry spell, and she seems to be
eying this guy like a lion might eye a slab of raw ribeye. :)
>> After he kills his two peers over
>> something other than their lack of manners around women.
> ----
> They wanted to kill Daenerys so he is a good guy in my book. :-)
then again, he was also trying to size up an opponent and was looking
for weaknesses in her and was trying to unbalance her. To her credit,
she gave him no ammo whatsoever.
>> Melisandre is
>> as cruel to Gendry in a way that is eerily similar to the sick way that
>> the torturer treated poor Theon last week. Can't a guy just get laid
>> without someone dicking around with his--oh, never mind.
> ----
> Well, at least he still got his and is not a eunuch. :-)
anytime soon, though.
>> Samwell and
>> Gilly are on the run with the baby, and Sam grows a pair and saves
>> mother and child from a white walker by using the magic dagger. But then
>> he cleverly and intentionally drops the dagger before the three run
>> away. Because, you know, it's not like he could ever make use of a
>> dagger like that again, or anything.
> ----
> Prehistoric Obsidian daggers are hard to come by. :-)
hadn't realized that its bearer was closer to being a spoon than a knife.
>> Performance-wise, this was another
>> time for Peter Dinklage to shine, but [Sansa] also continues to do a
>> wonderful job as the oh-so-vulnerable (and oh-so-dense) young bride.
> ----
> Well if Sansa is only 14 she can be forgiven for being dense. I think
> she will eventually end up like Lucresia Borgia on "The Borgias". Once
> a nice sweet innocent and happy girl has turned into a cunning woman
> who connives to commit murder. For very good reasons mind you. I don't
> not find fault with her in that regard although Lucresia has already
> taken the Cersei Lannister route by having sex with her brother.
the lines of casting Dinklage to reprise an Andre the Giant role.
> Still, Sansa has suffered half the cruelty Lucresia has. And it
> could've been far worse. She could've been married to Joffrey the
> serial killer kid king. BTW Joffrey looked like a Warner Bros. cartoon
> character when he was inhaling and exhaling very deeply after Tyrion
> Lannister's very droll and cutting remarks. The guy is a pure maniac.
>> Dany also continues to be portrayed particularly well. Sadly, Charles
>> Dance was vastly underused this time out and barely got a few lines in
>> at the wedding.
> ----
> Tywin is one of my favorites too, but the other actors have to shine.
>>
>> And Lena Heady does an awesome job of cutting off her
>> future daughter-in-law at the knees. Holiday gatherings and Mothers'
>> Days are gonna be kind of awkward after that one.
> -----
> They already are, even if Mother's Day don't exist.
anytime now.
anim8rFSK
May 24, 2013, 4:06:42 PM5/24/13
to
Hunter
May 24, 2013, 5:10:38 PM5/24/13
to
She was still 16 when that scene was film since filming of the third
season started in July 2012, so she was only two years older than her
character was at the time.
Also time past very slowly on "Game of Thrones" (not nearly as slowly
as on "Breaking Bad" and especially "The Walking Dead"). Daenerys
mentions in "Second Sons" that about a year ago she had no dragons; in
reality GoT started filming nearly three years ago on July 26, 2010,
so Sophie really was 14 when the series began while her character was
only 13; but of course the timeline of the show is only moving at 1/3
speed of reality.
Sansa's height still can be explained by saying she is having a growth
only 13; but of course the timeline of the show is only moving at 1/3
speed of reality.
spirt. I have seen even 12 year old girls nearly 6 feet tall in real
life, never mind 17 year olds, so in that regard it is not unrealistic
to have a nearly 6 foot tall 14 year old girl.
Oh and by way of comparison Maisie Williams who plays Arya Stark is
today 16 years old. Her birthday was on April 15th (coincidently the
day of the Boston Marathon Bombing) That means she was 15 when this
season started filming in July 2012 and 13 when the series started
filming in July 2010.
Hunter
May 24, 2013, 9:01:27 PM5/24/13
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On Mon, 20 May 2013 18:44:01 -0400, Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>GAME OF THRONES:
> I had forgotten that Tyrion actually married Sansa. It was a
>little boring and I though Dinklage really over-acted his sensitivity
>to her feelings. I was hoping we'd get at least the Robb Stark
>wedding this week. The Main Event, Joffrey and Natalie
>Dormer-character's wedding, I'm afraid we won't get until next season
>:(
> The scenes with Sam and the girl were very well done, I
>thought. How stupid is he, exactly, to leave the obsidian knife lying
>on the ground there when they run away?
----
Panicked.
Who cares? I was focused on Daenerys rising out of the tub! When are
we going to get a nude scene of her hand maiden/translator?
> Also quite good were the scenes of Davos and the red witch,
>whatever her name is. Melysandre?
----
Close; "Melisandre".
YES! I noticed that that she actually had dirty fingernails!
No. We know Joffrey is deprived enough with his murder of the
prostitute and I don't want to see a 14 year old raped. I saw that
happen essentially while catching up on "The Borsias" when her
misogynous, unfeeling brute of a husband of Lucrezia Borgia raped her
on their wedding night and did so repeatedly through the marriage.
That made it an A+ to me!
wrote:
>GAME OF THRONES:
> I had forgotten that Tyrion actually married Sansa. It was a
>little boring and I though Dinklage really over-acted his sensitivity
>to her feelings. I was hoping we'd get at least the Robb Stark
>wedding this week. The Main Event, Joffrey and Natalie
>Dormer-character's wedding, I'm afraid we won't get until next season
>:(
> The scenes with Sam and the girl were very well done, I
>thought. How stupid is he, exactly, to leave the obsidian knife lying
>on the ground there when they run away?
Panicked.
>
> The Daenerys stuff was great as usual, although I'm not sure I
>like the Darion actor very much. Below par.
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> The Daenerys stuff was great as usual, although I'm not sure I
>like the Darion actor very much. Below par.
Who cares? I was focused on Daenerys rising out of the tub! When are
we going to get a nude scene of her hand maiden/translator?
> Also quite good were the scenes of Davos and the red witch,
>whatever her name is. Melysandre?
Close; "Melisandre".
>
> Let's see, what else was there? Oh, a little bit of the Hound
>and Arya. Great casting for the Hound and a nicely done opening bit,
>as she thinks about bashing his head in with a rock while he sleeps.
>And a convinceing closeup of her filthy hands made a nice comparison
>to her sister's hands at the wedding.
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> Let's see, what else was there? Oh, a little bit of the Hound
>and Arya. Great casting for the Hound and a nicely done opening bit,
>as she thinks about bashing his head in with a rock while he sleeps.
>And a convinceing closeup of her filthy hands made a nice comparison
>to her sister's hands at the wedding.
YES! I noticed that that she actually had dirty fingernails!
>
> Is anyone else perverse enough to wish Joffrey had actually
>followed through with his threat and at least tried to rape Sansa in
>her wedding bed?
----
> Is anyone else perverse enough to wish Joffrey had actually
>followed through with his threat and at least tried to rape Sansa in
>her wedding bed?
No. We know Joffrey is deprived enough with his murder of the
prostitute and I don't want to see a 14 year old raped. I saw that
happen essentially while catching up on "The Borsias" when her
misogynous, unfeeling brute of a husband of Lucrezia Borgia raped her
on their wedding night and did so repeatedly through the marriage.
>
>Grade: B+ (and would have been a B if we hadn't gotten some yummy
>nude Daenerys in the mix)
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>Grade: B+ (and would have been a B if we hadn't gotten some yummy
>nude Daenerys in the mix)
That made it an A+ to me!
Nobody
May 26, 2013, 5:57:49 PM5/26/13
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On Sat, 25 May 2013 01:01:27 GMT, Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com>
(Hunter) wrote:
>On Mon, 20 May 2013 18:44:01 -0400, Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>GAME OF THRONES:
>>
(Hunter) wrote:
>On Mon, 20 May 2013 18:44:01 -0400, Mason Barge <mason...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>GAME OF THRONES:
>>
>> Is anyone else perverse enough to wish Joffrey had actually
>>followed through with his threat and at least tried to rape Sansa in
>>her wedding bed?
>----
>No. We know Joffrey is deprived enough with his murder of the
>prostitute
Why did he kill Ros? Just to have some random crossbow practice? Or
>>followed through with his threat and at least tried to rape Sansa in
>>her wedding bed?
>----
>No. We know Joffrey is deprived enough with his murder of the
>prostitute
was there a legitimate reason that I missed?
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