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BroilJAB

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May 23, 2012, 5:37:23 PM5/23/12
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Listening to NPR radio today, I was stunned
to hear an atheist icon, now, calling for the
rejection of Obama. The well-known atheist
Penn Jillette aired a hilarious anti-Obama
speech which took apart every plank in the
failed agenda of Obama. Will someone turn
off the lights, as they leave the Democrat
election HQ?

Martin Phipps

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May 23, 2012, 7:56:47 PM5/23/12
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Penn Jillette has always been a libertarian. Being atheist has
nothing to do with politics. It just means you aren't batshit crazy.

Martin

Steve Newport

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May 24, 2012, 3:43:26 AM5/24/12
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From: martin...@yahoo.com (Martin Phipps) Penn Jillette has always
been a libertarian.
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SN: And libertarians are batshit crazy. He's also an uncommonly ugly and
obnoxious man.

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Ubiquitous

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May 24, 2012, 4:18:17 AM5/24/12
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And you posted this off-topic article here because?

--
"If Barack Obama isn't careful, he will become the Jimmy Carter of the
21st century."

Ubiquitous

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May 24, 2012, 4:18:43 AM5/24/12
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>From: martin...@yahoo.com (Martin Phipps)
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> And libertarians are batshit crazy.
> He's also an uncommonly ugly and obnoxious man.

Ad hominems noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

--
"Admittedly, conservatives give as good as they get. The difference
between us and [leftists] is that we can argue as well as inveigh.
They can only hurl invectives." -- Don Feder


Steve Newport

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May 24, 2012, 9:01:30 AM5/24/12
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From: web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)
Get back to us
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SN: No, YOU get back to us when you have something new to add. If ever.


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tomcervo

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May 24, 2012, 10:51:22 AM5/24/12
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On May 23, 7:56 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Being atheist has
> nothing to do with politics.  It just means you aren't batshit crazy.
>
> Martin

Unless your name is Karl Rove--another atheist; in his case it means
power-seeking nihilism--since there's no afterlife, he hopes.

Remysun

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May 24, 2012, 12:07:10 PM5/24/12
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On May 23, 7:56 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Penn Jillette has always been a libertarian.  Being atheist has
> nothing to do with politics.  It just means you aren't batshit crazy.

Anybody can be batshit crazy. The biggest warning sign is believing
that one can't be batshit crazy.

Martin Phipps

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May 24, 2012, 12:30:24 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 7:51 am, tomcervo <tomce...@aol.com> wrote:
> On May 23, 7:56 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Being atheist has
> > nothing to do with politics.  It just means you aren't batshit crazy.
>
> Unless your name is Karl Rove--another atheist; in his case it means
> power-seeking nihilism--since there's no afterlife, he hopes.

Or rather, "he knows".

Martin

Martin Phipps

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May 24, 2012, 12:32:05 PM5/24/12
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I may be crazy but I am not batshit crazy. Batshit crazy means
believing that, through prayer, you can communicate directly with the
creator of the universe! THAT is batshit crazy!

Martin

William December Starr

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May 24, 2012, 1:45:17 PM5/24/12
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In article <7454d0d7-aad6-4f48...@kw17g2000pbb.googlegroups.com>,
Martin Phipps <martin...@yahoo.com> said:

> I may be crazy but I am not batshit crazy. Batshit crazy means
> believing that, through prayer, you can communicate directly with
> the creator of the universe! THAT is batshit crazy!

What's always struck me as _really_ crazy is the idea that an
omniscient deity won't know what you want unless you say it in
a prayer.

-- wds

Dano

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May 24, 2012, 3:55:25 PM5/24/12
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"William December Starr" wrote in message
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What has always struck me as nuts is why any such "all powerful deity" would
even care. Seems a tad insane to think "He" would give a crap if folks
kneel down...pray in a certain direction...eat meat on Friday...keep
Kosher...and so on. Complete lunacy.


Ubiquitous

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May 24, 2012, 6:37:58 PM5/24/12
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N*wport...@webtv.net wrote:
>From: web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)
>>N*wport...@webtv.net wrote:
>>>From: martin...@yahoo.com (Martin Phipps)

>>Penn Jillette has always been a libertarian. Being atheist has
>>nothing to do with politics.
>>---------------------------------------
>> And libertarians are batshit crazy.
>> He's also an uncommonly ugly and obnoxious man.
>
>Ad hominems noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to
>make.
>------------------------------------------
>SN: No, YOU get back to us when you have something new to add. If ever.

Do try and not be such a sore loser, mmkay?
One would think you'd be used to never wining a debate by now.

Remysun

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May 24, 2012, 6:57:04 PM5/24/12
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Prayer by itself is not crazy by reasoning of Pascal's Wager. What is
batshit crazy is thinking that your prayer is above anybody else's
prayer by virtue.

David

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May 24, 2012, 7:07:48 PM5/24/12
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It's based on who makes the most offerings. You're going to ridicule
me, but I'm not stopping the sacrifices.

Uirgil

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May 24, 2012, 7:09:20 PM5/24/12
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In article
<42cf0371-d492-4019...@b1g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Listening to NPR radio today, I was stunned to hear
> an atheist icon, now, calling for the rejection of
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Remysun

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May 24, 2012, 8:16:06 PM5/24/12
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On May 24, 7:56 pm, denni...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) wrote:

> Remysun <remysun2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Anybody can be batshit crazy. The biggest warning sign is believing
> >that one can't be batshit crazy.

> Nope, a bigger warning sign is posting OT articles all the time while
> asking other people why they post OT articles.

That's an inoperable tumor compared to a warning sign. They wouldn't
post if they believed they could be batshit crazy, because who wants
to be dangling bait for people who can easily prove you wrong?

And to post OT batshit with full knowledge that you could be batshit
crazy? That's batshit crazy.

Invid Fan

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May 24, 2012, 10:36:25 PM5/24/12
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In article
<0d761f0e-e5c9-4e52...@wp3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Remysun <remys...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> On May 24, 12:32 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On May 24, 9:07 am, Remysun <remysun2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On May 23, 7:56 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Penn Jillette has always been a libertarian.  Being atheist has
> > > > nothing to do with politics.  It just means you aren't batshit crazy.
> >
> > > Anybody can be batshit crazy. The biggest warning sign is believing
> > > that one can't be batshit crazy.
> >
> > I may be crazy but I am not batshit crazy.  Batshit crazy means
> > believing that, through prayer, you can communicate directly with the
> > creator of the universe!  THAT is batshit crazy!
>
> Prayer by itself is not crazy by reasoning of Pascal's Wager.

Well, depends. Praying to the wrong god might be, in fact, worse then
not praying at all.

--
Chris Mack "If we show any weakness, the monsters will get cocky!"
'Invid Fan' - 'Yokai Monsters Along With Ghosts'

Steve Newport

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May 25, 2012, 4:31:57 AM5/25/12
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Libertarians *are* batshit crazy. Penn is also an uncommonly obnoxious
man.

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Steve Newport

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May 25, 2012, 4:36:02 AM5/25/12
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From: denn...@dennism3.invalid (Dennis M) posting OT articles all the
time while asking other people why they post OT articles...
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SN: Don't forget re-directing responses! Yes, Ubiquitous is
unquestionably "batshit crazy."

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tomcervo

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May 25, 2012, 8:50:37 AM5/25/12
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On May 24, 6:37 pm, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> N*wportsRe...@webtv.net wrote:
> >From: web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous)
> >>N*wportsRe...@webtv.net wrote:
> >>>From: martinphip...@yahoo.com (Martin Phipps)
> >>Penn Jillette has always been a libertarian.  Being atheist has
> >>nothing to do with politics.
> >>---------------------------------------
> >> And libertarians are batshit crazy.
> >> He's also an uncommonly ugly and obnoxious man.
>
> >Ad hominems noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to
> >make.
> >------------------------------------------
> >SN: No, YOU get back to us when you have something new to add. If ever.
>
> Do try and not be such a sore loser, mmkay?
> One would think you'd be used to never wining(sic) a debate by now.

Do you wine your debates with a red or a white, Mike?

Martin Phipps

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May 25, 2012, 9:11:31 AM5/25/12
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On May 25, 6:57 am, Remysun <remysun2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 24, 12:32 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 24, 9:07 am, Remysun <remysun2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 23, 7:56 pm, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Penn Jillette has always been a libertarian.  Being atheist has
> > > > nothing to do with politics.  It just means you aren't batshit crazy.
>
> > > Anybody can be batshit crazy. The biggest warning sign is believing
> > > that one can't be batshit crazy.
>
> > I may be crazy but I am not batshit crazy.  Batshit crazy means
> > believing that, through prayer, you can communicate directly with the
> > creator of the universe!  THAT is batshit crazy!
>
> Prayer by itself is not crazy by reasoning of Pascal's Wager.

What is the point of praying to a god you think MIGHT exist? Pascal
didn't seem to realize that by trying to assign a probability to the
existence of God he was actually declaring himself an agnostic.

Martin

Remysun

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May 25, 2012, 12:21:57 PM5/25/12
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On May 25, 9:11 am, Martin Phipps <martinphip...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> What is the point of praying to a god you think MIGHT exist?

If He exists, He might intercede. If not, maybe you could get a
placebo effect; if not a miracle, then at least a way to cope. The
point is, it might work either way, while nobody attributes serious
side effects to prayer. Preaching, yes, but not prayer.

> Pascal
> didn't seem to realize that by trying to assign a probability to the
> existence of God he was actually declaring himself an agnostic.

Which is why fundamentalists don't accept that as believing.

William December Starr

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May 25, 2012, 2:07:14 PM5/25/12
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In article <0d761f0e-e5c9-4e52...@wp3g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>,
Remysun <remys...@yahoo.com> said:

> Prayer by itself is not crazy by reasoning of Pascal's Wager. What
> is batshit crazy is thinking that your prayer is above anybody
> else's prayer by virtue.

Pascal's Wager itself is a case of the fallacy of the false dilemma
though.

-- wds

Ubiquitous

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May 25, 2012, 5:45:27 PM5/25/12
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>> One would think you'd be used to never wining [sic] a debate by now.
>
>Do you wine your debates with a red or a white Mike?

"Spelling" "flame" noted. Get back to us when you have a real argument to make.

Greegor

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May 25, 2012, 9:10:49 PM5/25/12
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On May 24, 7:23 am, Don Kresch
> Tell that to many atheists here. They
> are of the whacktard opinion that you
> need to be a socialist to be an atheist.
> It's quite silly.

Atheists don't have to be rabidly angry
about religion either, but on usenet
that ANGRY strain of atheist seems to
dominate.

Zacharias Mulletstein

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"Greegor" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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That's why I call them "pop athiest." They hate God so much that they want
to pop.

Steve Newport

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From: gree...@gmail.com (Greegor)
Atheists don't have to be rabidly angry
about religion either, but on usenet
that ANGRY strain of atheist seems to
dominate.
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SN: True. I tune them out.

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Catpain 'Merca

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Greegor <gree...@gmail.com> wrote in news:44190211-0530-4f18-bea5-
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If you're talking about AA, call it frustration at the repeating rude
stupidity of a few theist rubes.

Catpain 'Merca
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- If the power-hungry lying gnome Srila Prabhupada had died at
- birth, the world would be a better place.
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Martin Phipps

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On May 25, 7:03 pm, "Zacharias Mulletstein"
<zachariasmulletst...@isalwaysright.com> wrote:
> "Greegor" <greego...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Who?

Martin

Steve Newport

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From: catpai...@nospam.net (Catpain 'Merca) theist
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SN: This word is a conversation stopper.

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Steve Newport

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