Re: 'Glee' has rabid fans, but they deserve better
Steve Newport
<<<Andy Dehnart: Episodes have also been full of quick, witty dialogue;
ridiculously absurd moments; and obvious but still cutting satire, like
the high school's celibacy club president getting pregnant. It's also
tackled some touchy subjects, from performance-enhancing drugs...>>>
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Kurt is quickly turning into my favorite.
The episode with Sue's sister was a step in the right direction.
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SN: I disagree about Sue, and think we're getting too much Kurt.
Steve Newport
who are inappropriately attracted to teenagers?
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Normal? Honest? Okay, what do you specifically mean in this case by
inappropriately?
Obveeus
"Dawnie" <siok...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:13:47 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>[..] Some people seem to think that a dictionary definition encompassing
>>any feeling of attraction is 'pedophilia'.
>
> Because it is <g>. Sexual attraction, that is. Check out what the
> mental health professionals say.
>
>>Other people tend to lean more
>>towards a legal world definition that tips towards a view of doing more
>>than
>>simply having feelings for the kid (it requires putting those feelings
>>into
>>actions)...and the kid being very young (pre-pubescent) before the term
>>pedophile should be attached.
>
> Wrong again. The legal system defines *acting on a pedophilic urge* as
> a criminal act. The definition of pedophile/pedophilic urge is the
> same as it's always been. Actually, the legal definition refers to
> minors (those under the age of 18, or some other number depending on
> jurisdiction), while it's the mental health professionals that confine
> the definition to prepubescent children. So you've got your
> definitions mixed up either way.
Actually, what I have is useful, intelligent meaning for society while your
'dictionary definition' causes you to call someone a 'pedophile' if they
look at a picture of Miley Cyrus and think 'she is hot'. That was my whole
point. Your 'technical definition' is misguided in that it provides a
bystander with a very misinformed opinion of someone that you would call a
'pedophile'. Your definition may be useful in book work, but it is not
useful for society.
> Without delving into lots of medical jargon, here's some basic info:
> <http://www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Pedophilia.html>
>
>>> Teenagers often look fully mature, and teenage girls frequently dress
>>> provocatively, so I don't think people can be blamed for *thinking*
>>> they're sexually attractive (until recent times, teenage girls were
>>> often married off just after they passed puberty). But it's *acting* on
>>> those feelings that's improper. You can't avoid looking at them, but
>>> you shouldn't leer, touch inappropriately, or make suggestive comments
>>> to or about them.
>>
>>I agree with all of the above, though I don't think that 'leering' or even
>>'making suggestive comments' would make that person a 'pedophile'.
>
> Only because you're misusing the term 'pedophile', of course.
I don't 'misuse it'. You are simply stuck in the archaic definition which
does not address the connotations of the word as it is used on the news,
etc... today.