Re: 1st Season Flash Forward - The Gift - 5 star poll - SPOILERS AHOY !
Kujo
news:bvOdneiCgswlKWjX...@supernews.com:
> "The Gift"
> 11-5-09 Flash Forward
>
> 5 stars (James Young & Della Young)
>
> 0-1 stars (Odysseus & the horse)
>
> -George
>
>
>
4.0 stars
I think this was the best ep of the season. Still room for improvement,
but I finally feel like the show is headed somewhere.
Fred Ellis
> "The Gift"
> 11-5-09 Flash Forward
>
> 5 stars (James Young & Della Young)
>
> 0-1 stars (Odysseus & the horse)
>
> -George
>
>
>
I give it 5.0 Stars.
Fred Ellis
--
"Who do you serve.... And who do you trust?"
(To e-mail me, remove the X from my address)
Obveeus
"Mark Nobles" <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:081120092340025526%cmn-n...@comcast.net...
> Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> It is the irresponsible people that use credit cards as a
>> method of covering the cost of even minor day to day purchases.
>
> Nonsense. I use a credit card for everything: to buy all my groceries
> and to gas my car. Even my phone bill is auto-charged to it. But then I
> pay it all off every month.
Then you aren't using the crdie card to cover the cost of those purchases.
You are using the credit card as a convenience: exactly what I said that it
should be used for.
> That's the part the banks don't like -
They would always want more money...just like you want more every day...just
like everyone else seems to want more more more all the time. never the
less, they make money without you paying a dime in interest, late fees,
etc... becasue they are given money as a transaction fee every time the card
is used.
> that's why they do stuff like move up payment due dates to as little as
> seven days after they print the bills (and then don't mail them for a
> couple of days after that.) They love those $39 late fees and 29.99%
> interest.
Sure...the big bad credit cards companies...where any time you don't like
the way they do things you are freely welcome to quit using the card and
switch to some other companies card....or write a check...or use cash. More
attention from the press needs to be focused on the evil stealing consumers,
not the big bad credit card companies. Of course, that won't happen since
the consumers are the TV viewers...and since they are all firmly entrenched
in the 'victim mentality'.
Default User
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> "Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> > Obveeus wrote:
> >
> > >
> >>"Default User" <defaul...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:7lr0e1F...@mid.individual.net...
> >>> Obveeus wrote:
> >
> >>> > I'd bet money that if the doctor's first question was 'and what
> is >>> > the drug you just asked about for', more than 50% of those
> asking >>> > patients would not even know.
> > > >
> >>> That seems unlikely.
> > >
> > > Why do you think that? Many of the drug ads aren't even clear
> > > about what the drug is designed to treat.
> >
> > Examples?
>
> How about the 'depression' commercials that just say 'feel bad? take
> this stuff and life will be better'.
That's a mischaracterization of what the commercials say. They discuss
CLINICAL depression and make it clear that's what they mean. One of
them even goes into the chemistry of the product.
This is not an acceptable example.
> How about the various drug commercials that start with people talking
> about their heart attack...and then commenting on how drug x (like
> Lipitor or Plavix) can help people who have had heart attacks?
What about them? All of them mention cholestrerol.
Not an example.
I'm not bothering with the rest, or anything further. You're flailing,
and bringing up irrelevancies. Your point is unproven, and you continue
to try to move the posts and change the discussion, all without any
form of success. As such, I won't be following this branch any further.
Brian
--
Day 280 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project
Ian Galbraith
> George Avalos sent the following on 11/7/2009 11:56 AM:
>> "The Gift"
>> 11-5-09 Flash Forward
>>
>> 5 stars (James Young & Della Young)
>>
>> 0-1 stars (Odysseus & the horse)
>
> 3.8. It continues to be a soap opera on too many fronts, and it would
> be hard for them to do a worse or more inept job of showing the
> dissolution of the Benford marriage. I mean, really. Is some high
> school English class somewhere in L.A. writing those parts, in particular?
The series shows all the hallmarks of a Braga show.
--
"I'm not an adult! I don't want to create responsible shows with lawyers
in them. I want to invade people's dreams." - Joss Whedon
Jim Gysin
Ian Galbraith sent the following on 11/10/2009 4:06 PM:
> On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:58:43 -0600, Jim Gysin wrote:
>
>> George Avalos sent the following on 11/7/2009 11:56 AM:
>>> "The Gift"
>>> 11-5-09 Flash Forward
>>>
>>> 5 stars (James Young & Della Young)
>>>
>>> 0-1 stars (Odysseus & the horse)
>> 3.8. It continues to be a soap opera on too many fronts, and it would
>> be hard for them to do a worse or more inept job of showing the
>> dissolution of the Benford marriage. I mean, really. Is some high
>> school English class somewhere in L.A. writing those parts, in particular?
>
> The series shows all the hallmarks of a Braga show.
Absolute lack of subtlety and nuance?
--
Jim Gysin
Waukesha, WI
David
>
>"Fred Ellis" <fke...@xstic.net> wrote:
>> The reason I posted 5 stars most of the time is to offset those
>> individuals who seem to have a strong hatred for the show and give the
>> episodes 1 star or less. As long as they continue to post low scores,
>> I'll continue to post high ones.
>
>Sounds like one of those boxofficemojo people that thinks every movie should
>rate as an 'A' or as an 'F'. I never did understand the point of people on
>both sides of the fence lying (with silly extremes) in their reviews. TV
>shows and movies should, logically, have a bell curve look to their ratings,
>with most people finding the shows rate in the 'ok' middle.
It sounds like some of the people here (the sci-fi group especially),
though I think they actually believe what they're saying. If something
isn't the best thing ever then it's the worst thing ever. Unless
there's a hot babe, in which case it's the worst thing ever but with
eye candy.
DJensen
> David Barnett wrote:
>> "DJensen" <i_m...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
>>> Fred Ellis wrote:
>>>> I give it 5.0 Stars.
>>>
>>> I don't think I've seen you give anything but 5s to any episodes of
>>> any show.
>>
>> Nor have I.
>> I did post a previous reply questioning Fred about this, and saying
>> the joke was now getting stale.
>
> Clouddreamer is right, I have posted less the 5 stars in the past. If
> you have ever visited the 'Lost' or the 'Battlestar Galactica' NGs I
> have rated certain episodes below 5.
>
> The reason I posted 5 stars most of the time is to offset those
> individuals who seem to have a strong hatred for the show and give the
> episodes 1 star or less. As long as they continue to post low scores,
> I'll continue to post high ones.
I find RASFTV is overly generous, even the worst episodes getting final
tallies in the 3s.
--
DJensen
Jim Gysin
Obveeus sent the following on 11/10/2009 9:06 PM:
> "Fred Ellis" <fke...@xstic.net> wrote:
>> The reason I posted 5 stars most of the time is to offset those
>> individuals who seem to have a strong hatred for the show and give the
>> episodes 1 star or less. As long as they continue to post low scores,
>> I'll continue to post high ones.
>
> rate as an 'A' or as an 'F'. I never did understand the point of people on
> both sides of the fence lying (with silly extremes) in their reviews. TV
> shows and movies should, logically, have a bell curve look to their ratings,
> with most people finding the shows rate in the 'ok' middle.
It would tend to be a bell curve (or normal distribution) if it were a
truly random and representative sample, but that's not what you get with
self-selecting polls. Instead, you get people on both ends of the
spectrum who are motivated to vote by their love or their hate of a
given show, which in turn will tend to give you results clumped more on
the two ends of the spectrum. The antithesis of a bell curve, in other
words.
And it makes sense, really. The only way to avoid it would be to insist
that people watch all kinds of shows and then rate them honestly. But
that's never gonna happen. For example, I can only rate shows that I
watch, and I only watch shows that I'm pretty sure I'm gonna like in the
first place (or else I wouldn't be watching them in the first place), so
I'm already messing up the randomness and representativeness of my own
sample by drastically increasing the chances that my ratings will be in
the upper half or even the upper quarter of the range of available
scores. OTOH, unlike some people, I *don't* torpedo shows that I don't
like by rating them extremely low, but there are people out there who do
*that* as well.
So... as long as things aren't random and representative, there's no
reason to expect a bell curve, and every reason to *not* expect one.