14th Annual RATTY Awards results: The Winners Are ...
Joshua Kreitzer
Once again this year, ABC's Lost took the top honors at the Ratty
Awards, as voted by the readers of the rec.arts.tv newsgroup for the
2007-08 television season. Lost won 5 awards including Best Series on
Television and Best SF Series. Also winning 5 awards at the 14th
Annual Ratty Awards was House, winner of Best Drama Series among other
awards.
NBC led all networks in winning Rattys this year, picking up 8 in all,
spread among 30 Rock, Friday Night Lights, and Heroes.
Thanks to all of you who voted. (There were 67 ballots received this
year.) I will post a separate article about voting trends later.
Winners tally by show:
The Best:
5: House; Lost
4: 30 Rock; How I Met Your Mother
3: John Adams
2: Battlestar Galactica; The Colbert Report; Friday Night Lights;
Heroes
1: The Amazing Race; Doctor Who; Eli Stone; Extras: The Extra Special
Series Finale; Mythbusters; Pushing Daisies; South Park; Torchwood.
The Worst:
1: CSI: Miami; The Moment of Truth.
Winners tally by network:
The Best: NBC 8 * ABC 7 * CBS 5 * Fox 5 * HBO 4 * Comedy Central 3 *
Sci Fi 3 * BBC America 1 * Discovery 1.
The Worst: CBS 1 * Fox 1.
*** THE RESULTS ***
** The Best **
BEST COMEDY SERIES
** winner ** 30 Rock (NBC)
2. The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
3. How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
4. The Office (NBC)
5. Desperate Housewives (ABC)
BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
** winner ** Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC)
2. Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
3. Steve Carell as Michael Scott - The Office (NBC)
4. James Roday as Shawn Spencer - Psych (USA)
5. Johnny Galecki as Leonard Hofstadter - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
** winner ** Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC)
2. Mary-Louise Parker as Nancy Botwin - Weeds (Showtime)
3. Christina Applegate as Samantha Newly - Samantha Who? (ABC)
4. Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Christine Campbell - The New Adventures of
Old Christine (CBS)
5. Marcia Cross as Bree Hodge - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
** winner ** Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your
Mother (CBS)
2. Rainn Wilson as Dwight Schrute - The Office (NBC)
3. Kyle MacLachlan as Orson Hodge - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
4. Rhys Darby as Murray Hewitt - Flight of the Conchords (HBO)
tie. Jason Segel as Marshall Eriksen - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
** winner ** Alyson Hannigan as Lily Aldrin - How I Met Your Mother
(CBS)
2. Jenna Fischer as Pam Beesly - The Office (NBC)
3. Angela Kinsey as Angela Martin - The Office (NBC)
tie. Vanessa Williams as Wilhelmina Slater - Ugly Betty (ABC)
5. Dana Delany as Katherine Mayfair - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
** winner ** Will Arnett as Devon Banks - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)
2. Beau Bridges as Carl Hickey - My Name Is Earl, recurring (NBC)
3. Blair Underwood as Mr. Harris - The New Adventures of Old
Christine, recurring (CBS)
4. Tim Curry as Nigel St. Nigel - Psych, "American Duos" (USA)
5. Freddy Rodriguez as Giovanni "Gio" Rossi - Ugly Betty, recurring
(ABC)
BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
** winner ** Sarah Chalke as Stella Zinman - How I Met Your Mother,
recurring (CBS)
2. Amy Ryan as Holly - The Office, "Goodbye, Toby" (NBC)
3. Carrie Fisher as Rosemary - 30 Rock, "Rosemary's Baby" (NBC)
4. Brooke Smith as Valerie Scottson - Weeds, recurring (Showtime)
5. Edie Falco as Celeste Cunningham - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)
BEST COMEDY EPISODE
** winner ** How I Met Your Mother, "Slapsgiving" (written by Matt
Kuhn, directed by Pamela Fryman) (CBS)
2. The Office, "Goodbye, Toby" (written by Jennifer Celotta & Paul
Lieberstein, directed by Paul Feig) (NBC)
3. 30 Rock, "Cooter" (written by Tina Fey, directed by Don Scardino)
(NBC)
4. The Big Bang Theory, "The Middle Earth Paradigm" (story by David
Goetsch, teleplay by David Litt & Robert Cohen, directed by Mark
Cendrowski) (CBS)
5. The Office, "Dinner Party" (written by Gene Stupnitsky & Lee
Eisenberg, directed by Paul Feig) (NBC)
BEST DRAMA SERIES
** winner ** House (Fox)
2. The Wire (HBO)
3. Damages (FX)
tie. Friday Night Lights (NBC)
5. Dexter (Showtime)
BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
** winner ** Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
2. Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan - Dexter (Showtime)
3. Kyle Chandler as Eric Taylor - Friday Night Lights (NBC)
4. Bryan Cranston as Walter H. White - Breaking Bad (AMC)
5. Gabriel Byrne as Paul - In Treatment (HBO)
BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
** winner ** Connie Britton as Tami Taylor - Friday Night Lights (NBC)
2. Emily Deschanel as Temperance Brennan - Bones (Fox)
3. Glenn Close as Patty Hewes - Damages (FX)
4. Calista Flockhart as Kitty Walker - Brothers and Sisters (ABC)
5. Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO)
BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
** winner ** Robert Sean Leonard as James Wilson - House (Fox)
2. Zeljko Ivanek as Ray Fiske - Damages (FX)
3. Donald Sutherland as Tripp Darling - Dirty Sexy Money (ABC)
4. Brad Leland as Buddy Garrity - Friday Night Lights (NBC)
5. Ron Rifkin as Saul Holden - Brothers and Sisters (ABC)
BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
** winner ** Adrianne Palicki as Tyra Collette - Friday Night Lights
(NBC)
2. Natalie Zea as Karen Darling - Dirty Sexy Money (ABC)
3. January Jones as Betty Draper - Mad Men (AMC)
4. Mia Wasikowska as Sophie - In Treatment (HBO)
5. Leighton Meester as Blair Waldorf - Gossip Girl (CW)
BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
** winner ** Richard Schiff as David Green - Eli Stone, "Soul
Free" (ABC)
2. Isiah Whitlock Jr. as Clayton "Clay" Davis - The Wire, recurring
(HBO)
3. Glenn Morshower as Chad Clarke - Friday Night Lights, recurring
(NBC)
4. Luke MacFarlane as Scotty Wandell - Brothers and Sisters, recurring
(ABC)
5. Glynn Turman as Alex Sr. - In Treatment, recurring (HBO)
BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
** winner ** Anne Dudek as Amber Volakis - House, recurring (Fox)
2. Mira Sorvino as Cate Milton - House, "Frozen" (Fox)
3. Amy Ryan as Beatrice "Beadie" Russell - The Wire, recurring (HBO)
4. Jurnee Smollett as Beth - Grey's Anatomy, "Freedom" (ABC)
5. Michelle Trachtenberg as Georgina Sparks - Gossip Girl, recurring
(CW)
BEST DRAMA EPISODE
** winner ** House, "Wilson's Heart" (written by Peter Blake & David
Foster & Russel Friend & Garrett Lerner, directed by Katie Jacobs)
(Fox)
2. The Wire, "-30-" (story by David Simon & Ed Burns, teleplay by
David Simon, directed by Clark Johnson) (HBO)
3. Life, "Fill It Up" (written by Rand Ravich, directed by Daniel
Sackheim) (NBC)
4. Mad Men, "The Wheel" (written by Matthew Weiner & Robin Veith,
directed by Matthew Weiner) (AMC)
5. Friday Night Lights, "Leave No One Behind" (written by Aaron
Rahsaan Thomas, directed by Dean White) (NBC)
BEST SF SERIES
** winner ** Lost (ABC)
2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
3. Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
4. Pushing Daisies (ABC)
5. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
** winner ** Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)
2. David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
3. Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
4. Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
5. Matthew Fox as Jack Shephard - Lost (ABC)
BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS
** winner ** Mary McDonnell as Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci Fi)
2. Patricia Arquette as Allison Dubois - Medium (NBC)
3. Evangeline Lilly as Kate Austen - Lost (ABC)
tie. Yvonne Strahovski as Sarah Walker - Chuck (NBC)
5. Eve Myles as Gwen Cooper - Torchwood (BBC America)
BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
TIE:
** winner ** Jack Coleman as Noah Bennet - Heroes (NBC)
** winner ** Michael Hogan as Saul Tigh - Battlestar Galactica (Sci
Fi)
3. Terry O'Quinn as John Locke - Lost (ABC)
4. Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond Hume - Lost (ABC)
5. Naveen Andrews as Sayid Jarrah - Lost (ABC)
BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
** winner ** Yunjin Kim as Sun Kwon - Lost (ABC)
2. Summer Glau as Cameron Phillips - Terminator: The Sarah Connor
Chronicles (Fox)
3. Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet Burke - Lost (ABC)
4. Tricia Helfer as Number Six/Caprica/Natalie - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci Fi)
tie. Katee Sackhoff as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
(Sci Fi)
BEST SF GUEST ACTOR
** winner ** James Marsters as John Hart - Torchwood, recurring (BBC
America)
2. M.C. Gainey as Tom - Lost, recurring (ABC)
3. Brian Austin Green as Derek Reese - Terminator: The Sarah Connor
Chronicles, recurring (Fox)
4. Dean Stockwell as Brother Cavil - Battlestar Galactica, recurring
(Sci Fi)
5. Ken Marino as Tony - Reaper, recurring (CW)
BEST SF GUEST ACTRESS
** winner ** Kristen Bell as Elle Bishop - Heroes, recurring (NBC)
2. Anjelica Huston as Cynthia Keener - Medium, recurring (NBC)
3. Carey Mulligan as Sally Sparrow - Doctor Who, "Blink" (Sci Fi)
tie. Sonya Walger as Penny Widmore - Lost, recurring (ABC)
5. Katee Sackhoff as Sarah Corvus - Bionic Woman, recurring (NBC)
BEST SF EPISODE
** winner ** Doctor Who, "Blink" (written by Steven Moffat, directed
by Hettie Macdonald) (Sci Fi)
2. Pushing Daisies, "Pie-lette" (written by Bryan Fuller, directed by
Barry Sonnenfeld) (ABC)
3. Lost, "The Constant" (written by Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof,
directed by Jack Bender) (ABC)
4. Lost, "The Shape of Things to Come" (written by Brian K. Vaughan &
Drew Goddard, directed by Jack Bender) (ABC)
5. Lost, "There's No Place Like Home" (written by Damon Lindelof &
Carlton Cuse, directed by Stephen Williams and Jack Bender) (ABC)
BEST TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
TIE:
** winner ** Extras: The Extra Special Series Finale (HBO)
** winner ** John Adams (HBO)
3. Jekyll (BBC America)
tie. Tin Man (Sci Fi)
5. A Raisin in the Sun (ABC)
BEST PERFORMANCE, TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
TIE:
** winner ** Paul Giamatti as John Adams - John Adams (HBO)
** winner ** Laura Linney as Abigail Adams - John Adams (HBO)
3. James Nesbitt as Tom Jackman/Mr. Hyde/Dr. Jekyll - Jekyll (BBC
America)
4. Kevin Spacey as Ron Klain - Recount (HBO)
5. Audra McDonald as Ruth Younger - A Raisin in the Sun (ABC)
BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
** winner ** The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
2. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
3. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
tie. Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
5. Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
BEST PERFORMANCE, VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
** winner ** Stephen Colbert - The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
2. Craig Ferguson - The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
3. Kristin Wiig - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
4. Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
tie. Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
BEST REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
** winner ** The Amazing Race (CBS)
2. Jeopardy! (Syndicated)
3. Top Chef (Bravo)
4. Project Runway (Bravo)
5. America's Next Top Model (CW)
BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
** winner ** MythBusters (Discovery)
2. The War (PBS)
3. Meet the Press (NBC)
4. The Universe (History)
5. This American Life (Showtime)
BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special)
** winner ** South Park (Comedy Central)
2. Kim Possible (Disney)
3. The Simpsons (Fox)
4. Family Guy (Fox)
5. The Boondocks (Cartoon/Adult Swim)
BEST NEW SERIES
** winner ** Pushing Daisies (ABC)
2. Damages (FX)
3. Chuck (NBC)
tie. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
5. Gossip Girl (CW)
MOST IMPROVED SERIES
** winner ** Lost (ABC)
2. House (Fox)
3. Big Love (HBO)
4. Desperate Housewives (ABC)
5. Curb Your Enthusiasm (HBO)
BEST SERIES ON TELEVISION
** winner ** Lost (ABC)
2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
3. 30 Rock (NBC)
4. The Wire (HBO)
5. How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
The Worst:
WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION
** non-winner ** The Moment of Truth (Fox)
2. Cavemen (ABC)
3. American Idol (Fox)
4. My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad (NBC)
5. Dancing with the Stars (ABC)
WORST PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
** non-winner ** David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
2. Paula Abdul as herself - American Idol (Fox)
3. Donald Trump as himself - The Celebrity Apprentice (NBC)
4. Samantha Harris as herself - Dancing with the Stars (ABC)
tie. Howie Mandel as himself - Deal or No Deal (NBC)
Joshua Kreitzer (for the Ratty Awards team)
grom...@hotmail.com
Joshua Kreitzer
awards in the 14-year history of the Ratty Awards:
1. Buffy the Vampire Slayer; The X-Files (33 each)
3. Lost (23)
4. Malcolm in the Middle (19)
5. The Simpsons; 24 (17)
7. ER (16)
8. Gilmore Girls; Veronica Mars; The West Wing (13)
11. Alias; Angel; Frasier; Late Show with David Letterman (12)
15. Arrested Development; The Daily Show with Jon Stewart; Friends;
House (11)
19. Battlestar Galactica (10)
20. How I Met Your Mother; Scrubs (9)
22. The Office (8)
23. The Amazing Race; 30 Rock (7)
25. Ally McBeal; Politically Incorrect with Bill Maher (6)
27. Sesame Street (5)
The only show to join the "5 or more Rattys" club this year was 30
Rock, which won four Rattys this year after winning three last year.
Other notable achievements among the Ratty elite were Lost's making it
into 3rd place all-time, ahead of Malcolm in the Middle, by winning an
additional five awards this year. Other than that, the top 10 shows on
the list had no changes.
Of the twenty-seven shows listed above, fourteen are continuing in
production for the 2008-09 season and remain possibilities to move up
in the rankings: Lost, The Simpsons, 24 (which skipped the 2007-08
season), ER, Late Show, The Daily Show, House, Battlestar Galactica,
How I Met Your Mother, Scrubs, The Office, The Amazing Race, 30 Rock,
and Sesame Street (although we no longer have children's program
categories for Sesame Street to compete in). The list of continuing
shows is the same list as last year, other than the addition of 30
Rock; none of the Ratty elite were cancelled this year.
By the way, there are three shows in production that have won 4 Rattys
each and have a good chance of entering the Ratty elite next year: The
Colbert Report, Heroes, and South Park.
***
The list of shows which have received "Worst" awards at the Rattys is
much shorter, because there are very few "Worst" categories. The
following are the only shows which have received more than one "Worst"
Ratty:
1. Walker, Texas Ranger (4)
2. The Simple Life (3)
3. Ally McBeal; CSI: Miami; ER; Lexx (2)
CSI: Miami has the unfortunate distinction of joining the Ratty anti-
elite this year, receiving one "Worst" this year after receiving a
"Worst" in 2006.
Besides CSI: Miami and ER, the only shows which have ever received
even one "Worst" Ratty and are still in production for 2008-09 are
American Idol, The Apprentice, and The Moment of Truth.
--
David
> *** 14th Annual Ratty Awards ***
Thanks for doing all that work, guys.
> *** THE RESULTS ***
Great results. I can only argue with two of these ("House" for best
drama - I like it but wouldn't have put it in the top five. I guess
people put too much emphasis on the season finale. And "South Park"
for best animated show)
Ian J. Ball
> *** 14th Annual Ratty Awards ***
>
> ** non-winner ** David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
> 2. Paula Abdul as herself - American Idol (Fox)
> 3. Donald Trump as himself - The Celebrity Apprentice (NBC)
> 4. Samantha Harris as herself - Dancing with the Stars (ABC)
> tie. Howie Mandel as himself - Deal or No Deal (NBC)
This is total B.S.! I demand a recount!!
Brian Thorn
wrote:
>Great results. I can only argue with two of these ("House" for best
>drama - I like it but wouldn't have put it in the top five. I guess
>people put too much emphasis on the season finale.
I thought most of House Season 4 was excellent, except for the first
two or three episodes after the strike. The finale and "Frozen" put it
over the top, but the entire season was very strong.
Brian
Brian Thorn
<ib...@san.rr.com> wrote:
>> WORST PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
>> ** non-winner ** David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
>> 2. Paula Abdul as herself - American Idol (Fox)
>> 3. Donald Trump as himself - The Celebrity Apprentice (NBC)
>> 4. Samantha Harris as herself - Dancing with the Stars (ABC)
>> tie. Howie Mandel as himself - Deal or No Deal (NBC)
>
>This is total B.S.! I demand a recount!!
"Recount" was unspectacular, but it wasn't the worst... :-)
Brian
clouddreamer
> On Aug 27, 1:56 am, Joshua Kreitzer <gromi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> *** 14th Annual Ratty Awards ***
>
> Thanks for doing all that work, guys.
>
Ditto!
:)
--
We must change the way we live,
or the climate will do it for us.
Anim8rFSK
<53d5ea55-5bd3-4722...@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ib...@san.rr.com> wrote:
Denied. Call for a recount is not recognized unless preceeded by the
putting on of darkened eyewear, and followed by YEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
--
Multiple root canals; hopped up on multiple pain drugs.
It's an explanation, not an excuse!
Mason Barge
"Joshua Kreitzer" <grom...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:94cde041-18c8-4f2d...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> *** 14th Annual Ratty Awards ***
>
All good choices. I disagree with a few, but nothing outrageous.
Thanks for all the hard work, Joshua and team.
Joshua Kreitzer
There were 67 voters this year, up from 60 in each of the last two
years. However, back in 1997, there were 167 voters in the Rattys. If
anyone has suggestions as to where we could post the ballot to attract
the missing voters, I'd be glad to hear about them.
The most voted on category this year was Best Comedy Lead Actor,
followed by Best Comedy Series. The least voted on
category was Best Performance, TV Movie/Mini-Series, followed by Best
TV Movie/Mini-Series and then Best Reality/Game Program. There seems
to be some interest in dividing the categories of Best Performance, TV
Movie/Mini-Series and Worst Performer on Television into separate
categories for male and female performers. We'll have to discuss that
next spring.
Among all nominees, the top vote-getter, both by number of votes and
by percentage of the vote in its category, was Neil Patrick Harris,
who won Best Comedy Supporting Actor for his role in How I Met Your
Mother.
One unusual achievement this year was that the miniseries John Adams
received three Rattys, despite being nominated in only two different
categories. This occurred because its lead performers, Paul Giamatti
and Laura Linney, tied for Best Performance, TV Movie/Mini-Series. The
only other time that two performers from the same show have tied for
the same Ratty Award was in 2000, when Buffy the Vampire Slayer had
two of its cast members (Anthony Stewart Head and James Marsters) in a
three-way tie for Best Supporting Actor, Science-Fiction/Fantasy
Series.
Again this year, I expressly provided in the rules that encouraging
Ratty voting in other newsgroups, blogs and web sites is allowed. I
even wrote, near the beginning of the rules, "CAMPAIGNING IS ALLOWED."
However, I couldn't find much evidence of campaigning, at least not on
newsgroups. And if a significant number of people had campaigned
elsewhere, I would have expected to receive more than 67 ballots.
Of course, one risk of campaigning is that the results will be skewed
by a large influx of voters supporting one particular show. But this
is balanced out by the possibility that campaigning by the supporters
of various different shows could increase the number of voters and
hence make the results more representative.
Thanks to everyone who voted, and hopefully the Rattys will return
next year for the 15th edition.
Mr. Hole the Magnificent
> *** 14th Annual Ratty Awards ***
>
> ** The Best **
>
> BEST COMEDY SERIES
> ** winner ** 30 Rock (NBC)
> 2. The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
> 3. How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
> 4. The Office (NBC)
> 5. Desperate Housewives (ABC)
The Office should have been tied for 1st place or a very close second.
> BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
> ** winner ** Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC)
That's Sir Alec Baldwin!
> BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
> ** winner ** Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your
> Mother (CBS)
> 2. Rainn Wilson as Dwight Schrute - The Office (NBC)
> 3. Kyle MacLachlan as Orson Hodge - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
> 4. Rhys Darby as Murray Hewitt - Flight of the Conchords (HBO)
> tie. Jason Segel as Marshall Eriksen - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
Rainn Wilson should have won.
> BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
> ** winner ** Sarah Chalke as Stella Zinman - How I Met Your Mother,
> recurring (CBS)
> 2. Amy Ryan as Holly - The Office, "Goodbye, Toby" (NBC)
> 3. Carrie Fisher as Rosemary - 30 Rock, "Rosemary's Baby" (NBC)
> 4. Brooke Smith as Valerie Scottson - Weeds, recurring (Showtime)
> 5. Edie Falco as Celeste Cunningham - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)
Falco or Fisher would have been the more logica choice.
> BEST DRAMA SERIES
> ** winner ** House (Fox)
Good choice, after what six or seven years the best winner actually
deserves the award.
> BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
> ** winner ** Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
Hope and praying he finally gets an Emmy!
> BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> ** winner ** Adrianne Palicki as Tyra Collette - Friday Night Lights
> (NBC)
> 2. Natalie Zea as Karen Darling - Dirty Sexy Money (ABC)
> 3. January Jones as Betty Draper - Mad Men (AMC)
> 4. Mia Wasikowska as Sophie - In Treatment (HBO)
> 5. Leighton Meester as Blair Waldorf - Gossip Girl (CW)
Having finally seen all of season one of Mad Men I think Jones was
robbed, as was Wasikowska. Two of those picks are jokes, right?
> BEST SF SERIES
> ** winner ** Lost (ABC)
> 2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
> 3. Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
> 4. Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> 5. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
Any of the top 3 would have been a fine pick.
> BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
> ** winner ** Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)
> 2. David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
> 3. Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
> 4. Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> 5. Matthew Fox as Jack Shephard - Lost (ABC)
There were episodes where Emerson doesn't turn up, so I would much
rather he not win, Tennant or Olmos should have won. Shame the Emmys
only recognize Emerson.
> BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS
> ** winner ** Mary McDonnell as Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
Fine choice, women her age aren't given enough to do in Hollywood,
more on tv than film but its still not enough.
> BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> ** winner ** Yunjin Kim as Sun Kwon - Lost (ABC)
> 2. Summer Glau as Cameron Phillips - Terminator: The Sarah Connor
> Chronicles (Fox)
> 3. Elizabeth Mitchell as Juliet Burke - Lost (ABC)
> 4. Tricia Helfer as Number Six/Caprica/Natalie - Battlestar Galactica
> (Sci Fi)
> tie. Katee Sackhoff as Kara "Starbuck" Thrace - Battlestar Galactica
> (Sci Fi)
Oh puh-leeze. Kim?!? She's a good actress, but she's on the smaller
scale of roles on Lost. Helfer or Sackoff were the corrent picks here.
> BEST SF GUEST ACTOR
> ** winner ** James Marsters as John Hart - Torchwood, recurring (BBC
> America)
> 2. M.C. Gainey as Tom - Lost, recurring (ABC)
> 3. Brian Austin Green as Derek Reese - Terminator: The Sarah Connor
> Chronicles, recurring (Fox)
> 4. Dean Stockwell as Brother Cavil - Battlestar Galactica, recurring
> (Sci Fi)
> 5. Ken Marino as Tony - Reaper, recurring (CW)
I've seen Marsters do better work, it was fun having him on the show,
but Dean Stockwell is the mother fucking man!
> BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
> ** winner ** MythBusters (Discovery)
> 2. The War (PBS)
> 3. Meet the Press (NBC)
> 4. The Universe (History)
> 5. This American Life (Showtime)
Mythbusters is a nice way to kill time, but The War was art, shame on
anyone that didn't vote for that masterpiece.
> BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special)
> ** winner ** South Park (Comedy Central)
> 2. Kim Possible (Disney)
> 3. The Simpsons (Fox)
> 4. Family Guy (Fox)
> 5. The Boondocks (Cartoon/Adult Swim)
Of course! Family should have been a close second.
> BEST NEW SERIES
> ** winner ** Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> 2. Damages (FX)
> 3. Chuck (NBC)
> tie. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
> 5. Gossip Girl (CW)
Great choice if Journeyman and In Treatment weren't nominated.
> MOST IMPROVED SERIES
> ** winner ** Lost (ABC)
here was nother to improve on, you can't fix what isn't broked.
> WORST PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
> ** non-winner ** David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
> 2. Paula Abdul as herself - American Idol (Fox)
> 3. Donald Trump as himself - The Celebrity Apprentice (NBC)
Should have been a 3 way tie.
Steve Newport
category was Best Performance, TV Movie/Mini-Series, followed by Best TV
Movie/Mini-Series
Less than the sci-fi categories? Wow.
Mason Barge
> The least voted on
> category was Best Performance, TV Movie/Mini-Series, followed by Best
> TV Movie/Mini-Series
It was a bad year for them. I wish in retrospect I'd done a quick review of
movies on LMN and SciFi before sending in nominations ;)
> and then Best Reality/Game Program.
Pretty much always a bad year for them.
There seems
> to be some interest in dividing the categories of Best Performance, TV
> Movie/Mini-Series and Worst Performer on Television into separate
> categories for male and female performers. We'll have to discuss that
> next spring.
>
Instead, how about separating the category into "Worst Performer on
Television" and "Worst Performer on Television not based in Miami"?
Seriously, you might think in terms of an all-time list, disqualifying
previous years' winners.
[...]
> The
> only other time that two performers from the same show have tied for
> the same Ratty Award was in 2000, when Buffy the Vampire Slayer had
> two of its cast members (Anthony Stewart Head and James Marsters) in a
> three-way tie for Best Supporting Actor, Science-Fiction/Fantasy
> Series.
>
Crap. Could we have nominated them this year?
shawn
So far I'm enjoying this season of "House." Yes, I'm running behind. I
have three eps left in this past season so I should finish up in time
to start the new season (assuming I can keep up with the new season
and don't end up falling behind again.)
clouddreamer
Oh...you're gonna be blown away by those last episodes!!! Enjoy!!!
..
Patty Winter
In article <94cde041-18c8-4f2d...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
And thanks to you for your hard work!
Although few of the people/shows I voted for won, I have no
quarrel with those who did. One quick comment:
>BEST PERFORMANCE, TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
>TIE:
>** winner ** Paul Giamatti as John Adams - John Adams (HBO)
>** winner ** Laura Linney as Abigail Adams - John Adams (HBO)
This is great! I was chagrined at having to choose between
them, so I'm delighted that it turned out a tie. Next year,
maybe separate actor/actress categories?
Patty
Jax
> In article
> <53d5ea55-5bd3-4722-b631-26f35a3aa...@j1g2000prb.googlegroups.com>,
Looks like someone...
*shades*
...wants a recount.
YEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Anim8rFSK
<f66d6700-43f8-4d36...@34g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>,
Jax <IlGr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
You got it.
And
WORST PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
*shades*
David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
YEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Steve Newport
MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
TIE:
** winner ** Paul Giamatti as John Adams - John Adams (HBO)
** winner ** Laura Linney as Abigail Adams - John Adams (HBO)
This is great! I was chagrined at having to choose between them, so I'm
delighted that it turned out a tie. Next year, maybe separate
actor/actress categories?
Yes, please? And I, too, was happy with that outcome.
Mac Breck
> WORST PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
>
> *shades*
>
> David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
>
> YEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
He really should get a Lifetime "Achievement" Award in the category.
--
Mac Breck (KoshN)
-------------------------------
"Babylon 5: Crusade" (1999)
Durkani: It doesn't matter if they believe us. Sooner or later the
truth's going to come out. The truth is....
Kendarr: ....out of fashion.
Mason Barge
> *** 14th Annual Ratty Awards ***
>
Gah! How could I have forgotten to nominate the only comedy show I actually
watch, Entourage. Or Jeremy Piven?
Probably because I don't pay for HBO so I forget about it until the DVD's
come out. Then I watch the entire season in two days.
Anim8rFSK
"Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
Well, then you shouldn't nominate it anyway, if you aren't watching the
current season.
Rob Jensen
<grom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>*** THE RESULTS ***
>
>** The Best **
>
>BEST COMEDY SERIES
>** winner ** 30 Rock (NBC)
>2. The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
>3. How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
>4. The Office (NBC)
>5. Desperate Housewives (ABC)
Well, I thought that 30 Rock had an off second-half of the season, so
I voted for TBBT, but if it wasn't going to be TBBT, at least it was
30 Rock. (Rob's score: 1 correct vote/1 category)
>BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
>** winner ** Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC)
>2. Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
For an excessively conservative bunch, you sure do like Alec Baldwin.
What the hell is wrong with you that you didn't vote for Jim Parsons?
(1/2)
>BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTRESS
>** winner ** Tina Fey as Liz Lemon - 30 Rock (NBC)
She's a funny actress, she's a funny writer, she's a MILF, she makes
horn-rimmed glasses look cool and magazines know that they'd get
guilt-tripped by Fey Fans if they airbrushed her scar out of her
photos. That's star power. (2/3)
>BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTOR
>** winner ** Neil Patrick Harris as Barney Stinson - How I Met Your
>Mother (CBS)
>2. Rainn Wilson as Dwight Schrute - The Office (NBC)
>3. Kyle MacLachlan as Orson Hodge - Desperate Housewives (ABC)
>4. Rhys Darby as Murray Hewitt - Flight of the Conchords (HBO)
>tie. Jason Segel as Marshall Eriksen - How I Met Your Mother (CBS)
NPH was one of Ratty's most reliable locks this season. I think it
would have turned out this way even if Jeremy Piven had been
nominated. (3/4)
>BEST COMEDY SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>** winner ** Alyson Hannigan as Lily Aldrin - How I Met Your Mother
>(CBS)
>2. Jenna Fischer as Pam Beesly - The Office (NBC)
Oh, you Buffy fans. Fischer definitely had the better year (even
though The Office didn't.) Aly's horrible fake tan and brown hair
did NOT help. (3/5)
>BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTOR
>** winner ** Will Arnett as Devon Banks - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)
>2. Beau Bridges as Carl Hickey - My Name Is Earl, recurring (NBC)
>3. Blair Underwood as Mr. Harris - The New Adventures of Old
>Christine, recurring (CBS)
>4. Tim Curry as Nigel St. Nigel - Psych, "American Duos" (USA)
>5. Freddy Rodriguez as Giovanni "Gio" Rossi - Ugly Betty, recurring
>(ABC)
This one was pretty much a default win. (4/6)
>BEST COMEDY GUEST ACTRESS
>** winner ** Sarah Chalke as Stella Zinman - How I Met Your Mother,
>recurring (CBS)
>2. Amy Ryan as Holly - The Office, "Goodbye, Toby" (NBC)
>3. Carrie Fisher as Rosemary - 30 Rock, "Rosemary's Baby" (NBC)
>4. Brooke Smith as Valerie Scottson - Weeds, recurring (Showtime)
>5. Edie Falco as Celeste Cunningham - 30 Rock, recurring (NBC)
I would have voted for Sarah Chalke regardless, but you guys really
should have also nominated Britney Spears. (5 out of 7)
>BEST COMEDY EPISODE
>** winner ** How I Met Your Mother, "Slapsgiving" (written by Matt
>Kuhn, directed by Pamela Fryman) (CBS)
>2. The Office, "Goodbye, Toby" (written by Jennifer Celotta & Paul
>Lieberstein, directed by Paul Feig) (NBC)
>3. 30 Rock, "Cooter" (written by Tina Fey, directed by Don Scardino)
>(NBC)
>4. The Big Bang Theory, "The Middle Earth Paradigm" (story by David
>Goetsch, teleplay by David Litt & Robert Cohen, directed by Mark
>Cendrowski) (CBS)
>5. The Office, "Dinner Party" (written by Gene Stupnitsky & Lee
>Eisenberg, directed by Paul Feig) (NBC)
You should have voted for "Dinner Party," but "Slapsgiving" was my
second choice. (5/8)
>BEST DRAMA SERIES
>** winner ** House (Fox)
>2. The Wire (HBO)
>3. Damages (FX)
>tie. Friday Night Lights (NBC)
>5. Dexter (Showtime)
Ugh. I *like* House and that's just a travesty against ALL of the
other four. I voted for FNL. I am proud to have not voted for the
winner of this one. (5/9)
>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTOR
>** winner ** Hugh Laurie as Gregory House - House (Fox)
>2. Michael C. Hall as Dexter Morgan - Dexter (Showtime)
>3. Kyle Chandler as Eric Taylor - Friday Night Lights (NBC)
>4. Bryan Cranston as Walter H. White - Breaking Bad (AMC)
>5. Gabriel Byrne as Paul - In Treatment (HBO)
Hugh Laurie -- seriously?! (see my note above -- I voted for Kyle
Chandler, too.) (5/10)
>BEST DRAMA LEAD ACTRESS
>** winner ** Connie Britton as Tami Taylor - Friday Night Lights (NBC)
>2. Emily Deschanel as Temperance Brennan - Bones (Fox)
>3. Glenn Close as Patty Hewes - Damages (FX)
>4. Calista Flockhart as Kitty Walker - Brothers and Sisters (ABC)
>5. Chloe Sevigny as Nicolette Grant - Big Love (HBO)
I voted for Emily Deschanel, but I had been torn between voting for
her and voting for Britton. I still don't think that Britton was
given good material to work with this year versus the material that
Chandler, Plemons and Palicki were given. (5/11)
>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTOR
>** winner ** Robert Sean Leonard as James Wilson - House (Fox)
I voted for RSL, but just because House had a great episode doesn't
mean it was the best drama on television this past season. (6/12)
>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>** winner ** Adrianne Palicki as Tyra Collette - Friday Night Lights
>(NBC)
>2. Natalie Zea as Karen Darling - Dirty Sexy Money (ABC)
>3. January Jones as Betty Draper - Mad Men (AMC)
>4. Mia Wasikowska as Sophie - In Treatment (HBO)
>5. Leighton Meester as Blair Waldorf - Gossip Girl (CW)
I voted for Palicki -- Tyra & Landry's justifiable homicide plot was
well done on all levels, essentially allowing Palicki and Plemons to
steal the show from everyone else in the cast *but* Chandler and
Britton. (7/13)
>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
>** winner ** Richard Schiff as David Green - Eli Stone, "Soul
>Free" (ABC)
>2. Isiah Whitlock Jr. as Clayton "Clay" Davis - The Wire, recurring
>(HBO)
>3. Glenn Morshower as Chad Clarke - Friday Night Lights, recurring
>(NBC)
>4. Luke MacFarlane as Scotty Wandell - Brothers and Sisters, recurring
>(ABC)
>5. Glynn Turman as Alex Sr. - In Treatment, recurring (HBO)
Richard Schiff?! WTF??
I voted for MacFarlane. (7/14)
>BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTRESS
>** winner ** Anne Dudek as Amber Volakis - House, recurring (Fox)
Another Ratty lock, even if the rest of the nominee list was weak.
(8/15)
>BEST DRAMA EPISODE
>** winner ** House, "Wilson's Heart" (written by Peter Blake & David
>Foster & Russel Friend & Garrett Lerner, directed by Katie Jacobs)
>(Fox)
Wash, rinse, repeat. (9/16)
>BEST SF SERIES
>** winner ** Lost (ABC)
>2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
>3. Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>4. Pushing Daisies (ABC)
>5. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
(shakes head) Lost was greatly improved this year versus season
three. But against (my vote) BSG and Pushing Daisies? I mean,
seriously? (And I went to the Lost panel at Comic-Con this year.)
(9/17)
(BTW, Eurkea should have been nominated.)
>BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
>** winner ** Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)
>2. David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>3. Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
>4. Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
>5. Matthew Fox as Jack Shephard - Lost (ABC)
Tennant should have won, but at least Matthew Fox didn't. (9/18)
(BTW, Colin Ferguson should have been nominated for Eureka.)
>BEST SF LEAD ACTRESS
>** winner ** Mary McDonnell as Laura Roslin - Battlestar Galactica
>(Sci Fi)
>2. Patricia Arquette as Allison Dubois - Medium (NBC)
>3. Evangeline Lilly as Kate Austen - Lost (ABC)
>tie. Yvonne Strahovski as Sarah Walker - Chuck (NBC)
>5. Eve Myles as Gwen Cooper - Torchwood (BBC America)
Geez, for all the drooling over Yvonne Strahotski this year, and the
wins for Lost above, I find McDonnell's win here surprising. My
second choice, after Eve Myles. (9/19)
>BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTOR
>TIE:
>** winner ** Jack Coleman as Noah Bennet - Heroes (NBC)
>** winner ** Michael Hogan as Saul Tigh - Battlestar Galactica (Sci
>Fi)
>3. Terry O'Quinn as John Locke - Lost (ABC)
>4. Henry Ian Cusick as Desmond Hume - Lost (ABC)
>5. Naveen Andrews as Sayid Jarrah - Lost (ABC)
I voted for Jack Coleman. Clearly, three Losties in a category splits
votes, so I suggest that next year, the Rattys adopt the Emmys' new
rule of no more than two nominees from the same show in any category.
(10 for 20)
>BEST SF SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>** winner ** Yunjin Kim as Sun Kwon - Lost (ABC)
Another lock. And another lock that I agreed with. (11/21)
Although I am kinda stunned that the Buffy fans restrained themselves,
resulting in Summer Glau coming in dead last. I suppose Terminator's
fanbase among the Ratters are just the talky ones.
>BEST SF GUEST ACTOR
>** winner ** James Marsters as John Hart - Torchwood, recurring (BBC
>America)
>2. M.C. Gainey as Tom - Lost, recurring (ABC)
Jeez, I wasn't expecting Ratters to vote against a Lostie, much less
for someone from Torchwood. But I suppose Buffy trumps Lost.
I'm almost thinking that very few people here besides me and Whovians
watch Torchwood. (12/22)
>BEST SF GUEST ACTRESS
>** winner ** Kristen Bell as Elle Bishop - Heroes, recurring (NBC)
No brainer. Best of the bunch. (13/23)
>BEST SF EPISODE
>** winner ** Doctor Who, "Blink" (written by Steven Moffat, directed
>by Hettie Macdonald) (Sci Fi)
>2. Pushing Daisies, "Pie-lette" (written by Bryan Fuller, directed by
>Barry Sonnenfeld) (ABC)
>3. Lost, "The Constant" (written by Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof,
>directed by Jack Bender) (ABC)
>4. Lost, "The Shape of Things to Come" (written by Brian K. Vaughan &
>Drew Goddard, directed by Jack Bender) (ABC)
>5. Lost, "There's No Place Like Home" (written by Damon Lindelof &
>Carlton Cuse, directed by Stephen Williams and Jack Bender) (ABC)
I voted for There's No Place Like Home," from Lost. Again, I think
this one is an example of the need to limit it to two nominees per
show per category as I firmly believe that the three Lost episodes
cancelled each other out. Had one of other two Lost episodes been
dropped, I think "The Constant" would have won (yes, even though I
voted for No Place Like Home and yes, I do think that The Constant was
a good choice. (13/24)
>BEST TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
>TIE:
>** winner ** Extras: The Extra Special Series Finale (HBO)
>** winner ** John Adams (HBO)
>3. Jekyll (BBC America)
>tie. Tin Man (Sci Fi)
>5. A Raisin in the Sun (ABC)
I voted for Raisin in the Sun. (Pay TV sux!) (13/25)
>BEST PERFORMANCE, TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
>TIE:
>** winner ** Paul Giamatti as John Adams - John Adams (HBO)
>** winner ** Laura Linney as Abigail Adams - John Adams (HBO)
>3. James Nesbitt as Tom Jackman/Mr. Hyde/Dr. Jekyll - Jekyll (BBC
>America)
>4. Kevin Spacey as Ron Klain - Recount (HBO)
>5. Audra McDonald as Ruth Younger - A Raisin in the Sun (ABC)
I voted for Audra McDonald. (Pay TV sux!) (13/26)
>BEST VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
>** winner ** The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
>2. The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
>3. The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
>tie. Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
>5. Late Night with Conan O'Brien (NBC)
No love for The Daily Show? Dudes, it's *much* better written than
The Colbert Report, which skates on the merit of just The Word and
Colbert's overall performance. (13/27)
>BEST PERFORMANCE, VARIETY SERIES/SPECIAL
>** winner ** Stephen Colbert - The Colbert Report (Comedy Central)
>2. Craig Ferguson - The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson (CBS)
>3. Kristin Wiig - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
>4. Amy Poehler - Saturday Night Live (NBC)
>tie. Jon Stewart - The Daily Show with Jon Stewart (Comedy Central)
Like I said, Colbert is the god of deadpan sarcasm. (14/28)
>BEST REALITY/GAME PROGRAM (series or special)
>** winner ** The Amazing Race (CBS)
>2. Jeopardy! (Syndicated)
>3. Top Chef (Bravo)
>4. Project Runway (Bravo)
>5. America's Next Top Model (CW)
AKA "The Worst Semi-nonscripted Shows on Television." It's point less
to vote for this category, so I didn't. (14/28/1 abstension -- and I
don't give the abstensions to the "nos.")
>BEST NEWS/TALK/DOCUMENTARY PROGRAM (series or special)
>** winner ** MythBusters (Discovery)
Wow. I voted for this one because (and I quote me) "the dartboard
tole me to." That is some. freakin'. dartboard. Especially since it
doesn't exist. (15/29/1)
>BEST ANIMATED PROGRAM (series or special)
>** winner ** South Park (Comedy Central)
Closest thing to a lock the Rattys have. (16/30/1)
>BEST NEW SERIES
>** winner ** Pushing Daisies (ABC)
OMG! RAT went for a quirky romantic comedy that I voted for, too! You
don't suppose that it's because it's on ABC and not the CW/WB/UPN?
(17/31/1)
>MOST IMPROVED SERIES
>** winner ** Lost (ABC)
(In honor of Lost's timebending nature, please read my comment for the
next award winner before you read this one.)
. . . except that, in thise case, I agree. (18/33/1)
>BEST SERIES ON TELEVISION
>** winner ** Lost (ABC)
Oh, those Losties, so predictable . . . (18/32/1)
>The Worst:
>
>WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION
>** non-winner ** The Moment of Truth (Fox)
>2. Cavemen (ABC)
>3. American Idol (Fox)
>4. My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad (NBC)
>5. Dancing with the Stars (ABC)
I think that the entire idea of nominating any reality show whatsoever
in this category to be redundant. Thus, my vote, Caveman, truly is
the worst show of the year. I'm right and you're not, so my scoring
is: (19/34/1)
>WORST PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
>** non-winner ** David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
It's like Kelsey Grammer continually winning the Best Actor Emmy for
Frasier, except that in this case, the winner won the correct award.
(20/34/1)
My average is .588. .571 -- or 19/35.if you count the abstention for
Reality Show as a miss and Worst Show as a miss. But I don't figure
travesties *that* bad into it.
-- Rob
--
LORELAI: I am so done with plans. I am never, ever making one again.
It never works. I spend the day obsessing over why it didn't work
and what I could've done differently. I'm analyzing all my shortcomings
when all I really need to be doing is vowing to never, ever make a plan
ever again, which I'm doing now, having once again been the innocent
victim of my own stupid plans. God, I need some coffee.
Rob Jensen
<mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> The
>> only other time that two performers from the same show have tied for
>> the same Ratty Award was in 2000, when Buffy the Vampire Slayer had
>> two of its cast members (Anthony Stewart Head and James Marsters) in a
>> three-way tie for Best Supporting Actor, Science-Fiction/Fantasy
>> Series.
>>
>
>Crap. Could we have nominated them this year?
Dude, HellllooooOOOOOOoooo! Marsters was nominated and won Best SF
Guest Actor for his role as Captain John Hart on Torchwood this year.
(bops you on the head in a "Wow! I could have had a V-8!" manner)
Rob Jensen
<grom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Again this year, I expressly provided in the rules that encouraging
>Ratty voting in other newsgroups, blogs and web sites is allowed. I
>even wrote, near the beginning of the rules, "CAMPAIGNING IS ALLOWED."
>However, I couldn't find much evidence of campaigning, at least not on
>newsgroups. And if a significant number of people had campaigned
>elsewhere, I would have expected to receive more than 67 ballots.
But dude, I was at or recovering from Comic-Con for, like, 80% of the
voting period (July 21st to July 29th, then recovering through August
1st versus the voting period of July 19th to August 3rd).
If the voting period could be pushed up to July 1st to the 15th or
back to August 1st to the 15th next year, I could sooooooo totally
campaign for the shows that I want to lose just so that I could bring
in more people to vote for the ones I want to win in a misguided
effort to spite me.
I think at least few others here also went to Comic-Con, so that might
be one of the problems.
Also, while I agree with dividing Movie/Miniseries Acting and Worst
Performer into categories by gender, I think each of the
Movie/Miniseries acting categories should then be limited to 3
nominees as there are so few movie/miniseries, much less *good* ones,
anymore. I mean, when Tin Man is one of the nominees (and I admit
that I nominated it), you really *are* scraping the bottom of the
barrell. Conversely, both Worst Male Performance and Worst Female
Performance should stay at 5 each as I think Secret Life of the
American Teenager has just soooo much potential in both categories
next year. Whatever Jerry O'Connell is in, too.
Rob Jensen
<grom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>** winner ** Adrianne Palicki as Tyra Collette - Friday Night Lights
>(NBC)
>2. Natalie Zea as Karen Darling - Dirty Sexy Money (ABC)
>3. January Jones as Betty Draper - Mad Men (AMC)
>4. Mia Wasikowska as Sophie - In Treatment (HBO)
>5. Leighton Meester as Blair Waldorf - Gossip Girl (CW)
I forgot to add -- Leighton Meester landing in the Supporting Actress
category here was a *huge,* fundamental mistake within the process
itself. Not the fact that she was nominated at all -- I very well
might have nominated her for Best Dramedy Actress if there were a
Dramedy track of categories -- but Meester is definitely NOT a
supporting actress on her show. She's one of the show's two primary
leads -- the one that's not Blake Lively, the one that's prettier than
Blake Lively and the one that's six inches shorter than Blake Lively's
hair.
When the voters place a nominee so obviously in the wrong category,
IMO, just tell us about it and override it if necessary. If Meester
didn't have enough votes to place on the Drama Lead Actress list, then
she shouldn't have made the final cut at all.
Huge apologies, too, if I sounded too snotty.
Rob Jensen
<macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Anim8rFSK wrote:
>
>> WORST PERFORMER ON TELEVISION
>>
>> *shades*
>>
>> David Caruso as Horatio Caine - CSI: Miami (CBS)
>>
>> YEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
>
>He really should get a Lifetime "Achievement" Award in the category.
I think it should be renamed "The David Caruso Hall of Shame Award For
Worst Actor On Television (Whether They Should Know Better Or Not)"
Also, "reality" show personalities should be split off into their own
category "The French Capital Hotel Hall of Shame Award For Biggest
Fucking Celebutard With No Talent, No Shame and No Justification
Whatsoever For Being On Camera"
Mark Nobles
> >BEST SF SERIES
> >** winner ** Lost (ABC)
> >2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
> >3. Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
> >4. Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> >5. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
>
> (shakes head) Lost was greatly improved this year versus season
> three. But against (my vote) BSG and Pushing Daisies? I mean,
> seriously?
Can't argue with this.
>
> (BTW, Eurkea should have been nominated.)
But this, I have to ask you which nominee it should replace? I'd have
replaced Lost, which I thought coasted.
>
> >BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
> >** winner ** Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)
> >2. David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
> >3. Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
> >4. Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> >5. Matthew Fox as Jack Shephard - Lost (ABC)
>
> Tennant should have won, but at least Matthew Fox didn't. (9/18)
>
> (BTW, Colin Ferguson should have been nominated for Eureka.)
>
Again, in place of whom? Shirley, you wouldn't have put him in place of
Fox.
shawn
<cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> >BEST SF SERIES
>> >** winner ** Lost (ABC)
>> >2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
>> >3. Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>> >4. Pushing Daisies (ABC)
>> >5. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
>>
>> (shakes head) Lost was greatly improved this year versus season
>> three. But against (my vote) BSG and Pushing Daisies? I mean,
>> seriously?
>
>Can't argue with this.
I voted for Doctor Who for the win. It constantly delivers great
entertainment value that holds up over multiple viewings. I like the
other shows but I don't find myself enjoying them as much on a second
viewing and a show like BSG is one that I just do not want to watch a
second time due to the overall mood of the show.
>> (BTW, Eurkea should have been nominated.)
It should have but I guess not enough people watch it for it to make
the cut.
>
>But this, I have to ask you which nominee it should replace? I'd have
>replaced Lost, which I thought coasted.
>>
>> >BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
>> >** winner ** Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)
>> >2. David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>> >3. Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
>> >4. Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
>> >5. Matthew Fox as Jack Shephard - Lost (ABC)
>>
>> Tennant should have won, but at least Matthew Fox didn't. (9/18)
>>
>> (BTW, Colin Ferguson should have been nominated for Eureka.)
>>
>Again, in place of whom? Shirley, you wouldn't have put him in place of
>Fox.
Hmm, I like Tennant but I'm happy with Emerson winning. Ben
contributed a lot to the show which is pretty amazing considering how
many characters the show has. As for replacing Fox with Ferguson..
Yeah, I might consider that as I can't say that Fox did much for me
this season.
Mason Barge
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-C4479...@news.west.cox.net...
> In article <NrCdnb-6hr06pSXV...@comcast.com>,
> "Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "Joshua Kreitzer" <grom...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:94cde041-18c8-4f2d...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>> > *** 14th Annual Ratty Awards ***
>> >
>>
>> Gah! How could I have forgotten to nominate the only comedy show I
>> actually
>> watch, Entourage. Or Jeremy Piven?
>>
>> Probably because I don't pay for HBO so I forget about it until the DVD's
>> come out. Then I watch the entire season in two days.
>
> Well, then you shouldn't nominate it anyway, if you aren't watching the
> current season.
>
Yeah, well <pouts>. At least it would have been a correct guess.
Mason Barge
"Rob Jensen" <Shut...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:onihb4hihscvsflh2...@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:38:15 -0400, "Mason Barge"
> <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>> The
>>> only other time that two performers from the same show have tied for
>>> the same Ratty Award was in 2000, when Buffy the Vampire Slayer had
>>> two of its cast members (Anthony Stewart Head and James Marsters) in a
>>> three-way tie for Best Supporting Actor, Science-Fiction/Fantasy
>>> Series.
>>>
>>
>>Crap. Could we have nominated them this year?
>
> Dude, HellllooooOOOOOOoooo! Marsters was nominated and won Best SF
> Guest Actor for his role as Captain John Hart on Torchwood this year.
>
> (bops you on the head in a "Wow! I could have had a V-8!" manner)
Yes I saw that. You don't recognize any difference between "James Marsters
in BTVS" and "James Marsters in Torchwood"?
You think Anthony Hopkins should have won an Oscar for "Alexander"?
Mason Barge
"Mark Nobles" <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:300820080047524345%cmn-n...@comcast.net...
> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> >BEST SF SERIES
>> >** winner ** Lost (ABC)
>> >2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
>> >3. Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>> >4. Pushing Daisies (ABC)
>> >5. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
>>
>> (shakes head) Lost was greatly improved this year versus season
>> three. But against (my vote) BSG and Pushing Daisies? I mean,
>> seriously?
>
> Can't argue with this.
Well, obviously a lot of people (including me) could, but it doesn't usually
make much difference. I think the order is okay and I watch all of them.
>>
>> (BTW, Eureka should have been nominated.)
>
> But this, I have to ask you which nominee it should replace? I'd have
> replaced Lost, which I thought coasted.
I'd put it as a comedy, meself. I think that's what makes it so enjoyable.
If you put it next to Lost or BSG, it seems too lightweight.
>>
>> >BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
>> >** winner ** Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)
>> >2. David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>> >3. Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
>> >4. Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
>> >5. Matthew Fox as Jack Shephard - Lost (ABC)
>>
>> Tennant should have won, but at least Matthew Fox didn't. (9/18)
>>
>> (BTW, Colin Ferguson should have been nominated for Eureka.)
>>
> Again, in place of whom? Shirley, you wouldn't have put him in place of
> Fox.
I'd put him ahead of Fox and the entire the bottom four.
Rob Jensen
<cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> >BEST SF SERIES
>> >** winner ** Lost (ABC)
>> >2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
>> >3. Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>> >4. Pushing Daisies (ABC)
>> >5. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
>>
>> (shakes head) Lost was greatly improved this year versus season
>> three. But against (my vote) BSG and Pushing Daisies? I mean,
>> seriously?
>
>Can't argue with this.
>>
>> (BTW, Eurkea should have been nominated.)
>
>But this, I have to ask you which nominee it should replace? I'd have
>replaced Lost, which I thought coasted.
IMO, Terminator: SCC, while good, should not have been there. The
pilot was atrocious and while it started to recover with the third
hour, it didn't really get into the "good" category until BAG joined
the show. Also, Lena Headey's acting is horrible. I don't expect her
to be Linda Hamilton, but in T2, SC was everything *but* a soccer mom
in temperament.
>> >BEST SF LEAD ACTOR
>> >** winner ** Michael Emerson as Ben Linus - Lost (ABC)
>> >2. David Tennant as the Doctor - Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
>> >3. Edward James Olmos as William Adama - Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
>> >4. Lee Pace as Ned - Pushing Daisies (ABC)
>> >5. Matthew Fox as Jack Shephard - Lost (ABC)
>>
>> Tennant should have won, but at least Matthew Fox didn't. (9/18)
>>
>> (BTW, Colin Ferguson should have been nominated for Eureka.)
>>
>Again, in place of whom? Shirley, you wouldn't have put him in place of
>Fox.
Yes, I would, Shirley. I would.. ;)
Anim8rFSK
"Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-C4479...@news.west.cox.net...
> > In article <NrCdnb-6hr06pSXV...@comcast.com>,
> > "Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "Joshua Kreitzer" <grom...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:94cde041-18c8-4f2d...@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
> >> > *** 14th Annual Ratty Awards ***
> >> >
> >>
> >> Gah! How could I have forgotten to nominate the only comedy show I
> >> actually
> >> watch, Entourage. Or Jeremy Piven?
> >>
> >> Probably because I don't pay for HBO so I forget about it until the DVD's
> >> come out. Then I watch the entire season in two days.
> >
> > Well, then you shouldn't nominate it anyway, if you aren't watching the
> > current season.
> >
>
> Yeah, well <pouts>. At least it would have been a correct guess.
LOL, yeah, but still.
I'm watching first season Dexter. It's a great show, but I'm not voting
for it in the current RATTYS, 'cause, who knows, it might not be any
good anymore. That happens.
Anim8rFSK
"Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> "Mark Nobles" <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:300820080047524345%cmn-n...@comcast.net...
> > Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >BEST SF SERIES
> >> >** winner ** Lost (ABC)
> >> >2. Battlestar Galactica (Sci Fi)
> >> >3. Doctor Who (Sci Fi)
> >> >4. Pushing Daisies (ABC)
> >> >5. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (Fox)
> >>
> >> (shakes head) Lost was greatly improved this year versus season
> >> three. But against (my vote) BSG and Pushing Daisies? I mean,
> >> seriously?
> >
> > Can't argue with this.
>
> Well, obviously a lot of people (including me) could, but it doesn't usually
> make much difference. I think the order is okay and I watch all of them.
>
> >>
> >> (BTW, Eureka should have been nominated.)
> >
> > But this, I have to ask you which nominee it should replace? I'd have
> > replaced Lost, which I thought coasted.
>
> I'd put it as a comedy, meself. I think that's what makes it so enjoyable.
> If you put it next to Lost or BSG, it seems too lightweight.
Yes, I think that was a problem with nominating Eureka; where to put it?
God knows where MIDDLEMAN would fit.
William December Starr
"Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> said:
> It was a bad year for them. I wish in retrospect I'd done a quick
> review of movies on LMN and SciFi before sending in nominations ;)
I've successfully deduced that LMN is Lifetime Movie Network, but
what's that? Is it just a fancy name for "the original movies we
show here on Lifetime," or something else?
-- wds
William December Starr
Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> said:
> IMO, Terminator: SCC, while good, should not have been there. The
> pilot was atrocious and while it started to recover with the third
> hour, it didn't really get into the "good" category until BAG
> joined the show. Also, Lena Headey's acting is horrible. I don't
> expect her to be Linda Hamilton, but in T2, SC was everything
> *but* a soccer mom in temperament.
Somebody more knowledgeable than me, please do my homework for me:
what were (1) the date given for the day that Sarah Connor was
broken out of the mental hospital -- it came up in "The Demon Hand,"
when John was mad at her for having signed away her parental rights
-- and (2) the date for the first episode of "Chronicles"?
I'm thinking that no matter what Sarah was like in T2, she's had
N years to mellow just a bit.
-- wds
Mason Barge
> On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:56:09 -0700 (PDT), Joshua Kreitzer
> <grom...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
>>** winner ** Adrianne Palicki as Tyra Collette - Friday Night Lights
>>(NBC)
>>2. Natalie Zea as Karen Darling - Dirty Sexy Money (ABC)
>>3. January Jones as Betty Draper - Mad Men (AMC)
>>4. Mia Wasikowska as Sophie - In Treatment (HBO)
>>5. Leighton Meester as Blair Waldorf - Gossip Girl (CW)
>
> I forgot to add -- Leighton Meester landing in the Supporting Actress
> category here was a *huge,* fundamental mistake within the process
> itself. Not the fact that she was nominated at all -- I very well
> might have nominated her for Best Dramedy Actress if there were a
> Dramedy track of categories -- but Meester is definitely NOT a
> supporting actress on her show. She's one of the show's two primary
> leads -- the one that's not Blake Lively, the one that's prettier than
> Blake Lively and the one that's six inches shorter than Blake Lively's
> hair.
>
> When the voters place a nominee so obviously in the wrong category,
> IMO, just tell us about it and override it if necessary. If Meester
> didn't have enough votes to place on the Drama Lead Actress list, then
> she shouldn't have made the final cut at all.
>
> Huge apologies, too, if I sounded too snotty.
>
You don't sound snotty to me. I have hay fever this morning -- *I* sound
snotty. :)
But I don't agree with you. That's what campaigns are for. If it's a vote,
you have to live with the vote. Otherwise, it's a critic's choice, "you can
vote as long as I agree."
Anim8rFSK
wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> In article <mopib490051bq3uft...@4ax.com>,
> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> said:
>
> > IMO, Terminator: SCC, while good, should not have been there. The
> > pilot was atrocious and while it started to recover with the third
> > hour, it didn't really get into the "good" category until BAG
> > joined the show. Also, Lena Headey's acting is horrible. I don't
> > expect her to be Linda Hamilton, but in T2, SC was everything
> > *but* a soccer mom in temperament.
>
> Somebody more knowledgeable than me, please do my homework for me:
> what were (1) the date given for the day that Sarah Connor was
> broken out of the mental hospital -- it came up in "The Demon Hand,"
> when John was mad at her for having signed away her parental rights
June 8 1997
> -- and (2) the date for the first episode of "Chronicles"?
August 1999
>
> I'm thinking that no matter what Sarah was like in T2, she's had
> N years to mellow just a bit.
>
> -- wds
--
Anim8rFSK
wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
It's it's own hideous network, hideously rerunning hideous reruns of
hideous Lifetime "Men are scum, but women like to be hurt" 'movies'
Today's thrilling schedule, with title and genre:
Two of Hearts - Love/Lust
A Strange Affair - Love/Lust
A Stranger to Love - Touching
Married to a Stranger - Love/Lust
Second Honeymoon - Love/Lust
Prime - Drama
Harlequin's A Change of Place - Love/Lust
Beauty - Love/Lust
Personally Yours - Touching
Dangerous Heart - Thrilling
The Other Mother: A Moment of Truth Movie - Touching
Ian J. Ball
> In article <g9do23$aj...@panix2.panix.com>,
> wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
>
> > In article <pZidnQuvuv7UNyvVnZ2dnUVZ_rbin...@comcast.com>,
> > "Mason Barge" <masonba...@comcast.net> said:
>
> > > It was a bad year for them. I wish in retrospect I'd done a quick
> > > review of movies on LMN and SciFi before sending in nominations ;)
>
> > I've successfully deduced that LMN is Lifetime Movie Network, but
> > what's that? Is it just a fancy name for "the original movies we
> > show here on Lifetime," or something else?
>
> > -- wds
>
> It's it's own hideous network, hideously rerunning hideous reruns of
> hideous Lifetime "Men are scum, but women like to be hurt" 'movies'
>
> Today's thrilling schedule, with title and genre:
>
> Two of Hearts - Love/Lust
> A Strange Affair - Love/Lust
> A Stranger to Love - Touching
> Married to a Stranger - Love/Lust
> Second Honeymoon - Love/Lust
> Prime - Drama
> Harlequin's A Change of Place - Love/Lust
> Beauty - Love/Lust
> Personally Yours - Touching
> Dangerous Heart - Thrilling
> The Other Mother: A Moment of Truth Movie - Touching
This sh*t is da bomb! I LOVE IT!!! :)
Ian (Except "Prime" - that movie sucked, esp. the ending...)
Anim8rFSK
<ef32eeab-506b-4b38...@v16g2000prc.googlegroups.com>,
"Ian J. Ball" <ib...@san.rr.com> wrote:
> On Aug 31, 6:52 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <g9do23$aj...@panix2.panix.com>,
> > wdst...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
> >
> > > In article <pZidnQuvuv7UNyvVnZ2dnUVZ rbin...@comcast.com>,
> > > "Mason Barge" <masonba...@comcast.net> said:
> >
> > > > It was a bad year for them. I wish in retrospect I'd done a quick
> > > > review of movies on LMN and SciFi before sending in nominations ;)
> >
> > > I've successfully deduced that LMN is Lifetime Movie Network, but
> > > what's that? Is it just a fancy name for "the original movies we
> > > show here on Lifetime," or something else?
> >
> > > -- wds
> >
> > It's it's own hideous network, hideously rerunning hideous reruns of
> > hideous Lifetime "Men are scum, but women like to be hurt" 'movies'
> >
> > Today's thrilling schedule, with title and genre:
> >
> > Two of Hearts - Love/Lust
> > A Strange Affair - Love/Lust
> > A Stranger to Love - Touching
> > Married to a Stranger - Love/Lust
> > Second Honeymoon - Love/Lust
> > Prime - Drama
> > Harlequin's A Change of Place - Love/Lust
> > Beauty - Love/Lust
> > Personally Yours - Touching
> > Dangerous Heart - Thrilling
> > The Other Mother: A Moment of Truth Movie - Touching
>
> This sh*t is da bomb! I LOVE IT!!! :)
>
>
> Ian (Except "Prime" - that movie sucked, esp. the ending...)
Gah. Search IMDb for "Prime" and it returns "Transformers"
I assume you mean the 2005 movie with the worst Law & Order ADA? You
could always watch her end from THAT instead . . .
Ian J. Ball
"Prime" is the (theatrical) movie with Meryl Streep, Uma Thurman, and
that guy who was originally on "One Tree Hill"...
Anim8rFSK
<08cf4531-6b9e-4915...@s20g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
Yeah, that's it. IMDb puts the Law & Order chick's pic at the top.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387514/
Ian J. Ball
You think Annie Parisse's Borgia was *worse* than Alana De La Garza's
Rubirosa??!!
That's *crazy* talk!!
Anim8rFSK
<93f32d4d-a01f-4f96...@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com>,
"To you she's Rubirosa . . ."
(shades)
"To me, she's Mrs. Horatio Caine"
YYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Mason Barge
"Ian J. Ball" <ib...@san.rr.com> wrote in message
news:93f32d4d-a01f-4f96...@n38g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
> That's *crazy* talk!!
Rubirosa did get that great episode, where she was sexually harassed by a
guy on the jury, and McCoy encouraged her to use it to sway the jury
deliberations.
Mason Barge
You *know* I agree.
Even worse, last night I was dumbfounded to see LMN had actually made a
legitimately good movie, "Homeless to Harvard". (Comcast On
Demand ->Television Entertainment -> Lifetime).
The lousy title took my guard down. I hate to say it, but this is about as
good as tv movies get.
Dawnie
wrote:
> >BEST COMEDY LEAD ACTOR
> >** winner ** Alec Baldwin as Jack Donaghy - 30 Rock (NBC)
> >2. Jim Parsons as Sheldon Cooper - The Big Bang Theory (CBS)
>
> For an excessively conservative bunch, you sure do like Alec Baldwin.
> What the hell is wrong with you that you didn't vote for Jim Parsons?
> (1/2)
When I saw the results I just thought to myself: waaaay more people
watch and like 30 Rock (and The Office) than I thought. I voted for
Parsons.
> >4. Calista Flockhart as Kitty Walker - Brothers and Sisters (ABC)
When I started watching Brothers & Sisters, I was sure I would hate
Calista Flockhart's portrayal of her character--in the later years of
Ally McBeal I really loathed her. I was afraid she was going to annoy
me just like Julianne Nicholson did in Conviction. But to my surprise,
I like her as Kitty Walker, she's really beginning to grow on me. To
digress a little bit, I've discovered I also like Nicholson in L&O:CI.
I don't watch 30 Rock, so I can't tell you if I like Jane Krakowski in
it. And those are about the only Ally alums I can think up for now.
> >BEST DRAMA SUPPORTING ACTRESS
> >** winner ** Adrianne Palicki as Tyra Collette - Friday Night Lights
> >(NBC)
> >2. Natalie Zea as Karen Darling - Dirty Sexy Money (ABC)
> >3. January Jones as Betty Draper - Mad Men (AMC)
> >4. Mia Wasikowska as Sophie - In Treatment (HBO)
> >5. Leighton Meester as Blair Waldorf - Gossip Girl (CW)
>
> I voted for Palicki -- Tyra & Landry's justifiable homicide plot was
> well done on all levels, essentially allowing Palicki and Plemons to
> steal the show from everyone else in the cast *but* Chandler and
> Britton. (7/13)
I voted for Mia Wasikowska, I thought she was *fabulous*. Much better
than #2 Natalie Zea. I don't watch Friday Night Lights so I can't tell
you what I think of Palicki.
> >BEST DRAMA GUEST ACTOR
> >** winner ** Richard Schiff as David Green - Eli Stone, "Soul
> >Free" (ABC)
> >2. Isiah Whitlock Jr. as Clayton "Clay" Davis - The Wire, recurring
> >(HBO)
> >3. Glenn Morshower as Chad Clarke - Friday Night Lights, recurring
> >(NBC)
> >4. Luke MacFarlane as Scotty Wandell - Brothers and Sisters, recurring
> >(ABC)
> >5. Glynn Turman as Alex Sr. - In Treatment, recurring (HBO)
>
> Richard Schiff?! WTF??
As a big Eli Stone fan, I'm thrilled! 8-) But I suspect his win was
more due to fans of The West Wing rather than anything else. I thought
he was excellent in his guest role, he made a very moving speech IIRC.
This was the most difficult category for me in the RATTYs, I liked
everyone else (other than the guy from The Wire, which I haven't
gotten round to watching) nominated.
> I voted for MacFarlane. (7/14)
He was my very close second.
> (BTW, Colin Ferguson should have been nominated for Eureka.)
I tried. I nominated him in the nomination ballot. Joe Morton, too.
> Although I am kinda stunned that the Buffy fans restrained themselves,
> resulting in Summer Glau coming in dead last. I suppose Terminator's
> fanbase among the Ratters are just the talky ones.
I'm a little surprised as well, but what did she do really--act like a
robot most of the time, no?
> I voted for There's No Place Like Home," from Lost. Again, I think
> this one is an example of the need to limit it to two nominees per
> show per category as I firmly believe that the three Lost episodes
> cancelled each other out. Had one of other two Lost episodes been
> dropped, I think "The Constant" would have won (yes, even though I
> voted for No Place Like Home and yes, I do think that The Constant was
> a good choice. (13/24)
I voted for The Constant. That series has always been about Desmond
for me, once we saw his story. Even more so than Locke/Linus, and I
could not care any less about the the love triangle, ugh.
> >BEST PERFORMANCE, TV MOVIE/MINI-SERIES
> >TIE:
> >** winner ** Paul Giamatti as John Adams - John Adams (HBO)
> >** winner ** Laura Linney as Abigail Adams - John Adams (HBO)
Very nice. Like someone else mentioned, I also had a heck of a time
choosing between Giamatti and Linney.
> >WORST SERIES ON TELEVISION
> >** non-winner ** The Moment of Truth (Fox)
> >2. Cavemen (ABC)
> >3. American Idol (Fox)
> >4. My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad (NBC)
> >5. Dancing with the Stars (ABC)
>
> I think that the entire idea of nominating any reality show whatsoever
> in this category to be redundant.
Hmm, while I'm not a fan of reality shows, I must say that there are
those that are clearly worse than others. And The Moment of Truth was
truly a horrible show.
> My average is .588. .571 -- or 19/35.if you count the abstention for
> Reality Show as a miss and Worst Show as a miss. But I don't figure
> travesties *that* bad into it.
I was too lazy to do any calculations. I just totalled up how many
winners I voted for: 12.