POLL - "PRISON BREAK": Episode 1.11 - "And Then There Were 7" (aka. Scofield's Got Game - ed.) (SPOILERS)
Erin Woodbridge's Bestest Friend, Ian J. Ball
Episode 1.11: "And Then There Were 7"
Grade it! (letter grades preferred)
All comments welcome.
What did you think?
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Erin Woodbridge's Bestest Friend, Ian J. Ball
<ijball***SPAM-No***-5907FB.164...@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
"Erin Woodbridge's Bestest Friend, Ian J. Ball"
<ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
> "PRISON BREAK" 11/14/05
> Episode 1.11: "And Then There Were 7"
>
>
> Grade it! (letter grades preferred)
Hey?! Where the heck are you guys?!!
My score:
4.1
This show is just a great ride. Lots of good stuff.
D.B. is now #7.
The Doc is all pissy with Michael now.
Quinn "completes" his job.
And Bellick is hot on Scofield's trial.
Nice.
Ian (Still waiting to see how the breakout gets "aborted" in two weeks,
so they can start it all over again in the New Year...)
David
Ian J. Ball" <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article
><ijball***SPAM-No***-5907FB.164...@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
> "Erin Woodbridge's Bestest Friend, Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "PRISON BREAK" 11/14/05
>> Episode 1.11: "And Then There Were 7"
>>
>>
>> Grade it! (letter grades preferred)
>
>Hey?! Where the heck are you guys?!!
Looks like my boycott is catching fire.
>Ian (Still waiting to see how the breakout gets "aborted" in two weeks,
>so they can start it all over again in the New Year...)
I'm thinking that if they do decide to wait until May they might treat
that as "season 2" and start off after the breakout.
David B
> "PRISON BREAK" 11/14/05
>
> Episode 1.11: "And Then There Were 7"
>
> Grade it! (letter grades preferred)
> All comments welcome.
>
> What did you think?
>
B+. Last week made me think Quinn was going to be a bad ass. This
episode made him out to be a "not so bad ass".
BTR1701
<ijball***SPAM-No***-AAD68D.220...@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
"Erin Woodbridge's Bestest Friend, Ian J. Ball"
<ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <ijball***SPAM-No***-5907FB.164...@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
> "Erin Woodbridge's Bestest Friend, Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > "PRISON BREAK" 11/14/05
> > Episode 1.11: "And Then There Were 7"
> >
> >
> > Grade it! (letter grades preferred)
>
> Hey?! Where the heck are you guys?!!
> My score:
>
> 4.1
>
> This show is just a great ride. Lots of good stuff.
>
> D.B. is now #7.
>
> The Doc is all pissy with Michael now.
>
> Quinn "completes" his job.
>
> And Bellick is hot on Scofield's trail.
>
> Nice.
>
>
> Ian (Still waiting to see how the breakout gets "aborted" in two weeks,
> so they can start it all over again in the New Year...)
If the breakout gets aborted, doesn't the whole point of the breakout
(i.e., saving Lincoln from being executed) become obviated?
KC
wrote:
Something would have to happen to delay Lincoln's execution, giving
"the 7" some extra time. The legal team is still on the run and they
have nothing so far that would prompt a stay, so I'm not sure how they
would accomplish it.
Can't wait to see, though.
KC
Kyle B.
verifying the guy is really knocked out. If I had been Lady Lawyer:
after I knocked him out with the chair, I would have beat on his head
with a log. Then I would have tied him up, just to be sure.
BTR1701
"Kyle B." <kbir...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Or maybe just grabbed his gun and turned his lights off for good.
E Brown
wrote:
Speaking of which, why would the *other* agents leave him alive as
well? They've shown no compunction about killing unarmed innocents to
eliminate any possibility of retaliation, but a trained, armed agent
that's pretty mildly (not life-threateningly) wounded is just left
there? If there's water in the well, the guy can last a week or more -
plenty of time for some bystander to find him and save him.
epbrown
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Ian J. Ball
KC <cmk...@earthlink.net> wrote:
I'm guessing, but I think it'll involve Hottie Doc, and her father the
Governor.
We'll see...
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Ian J. Ball
E Brown <epbr...@att.net> wrote:
It's a stretch, but - 'plausible deniability'. By covering the guy's
hole, they can claim they went to search for him, but didn't find him
(when he turns up as a corpse).
OTOH, if Quinn somehow makes it out of that hole, they are totally
screwed in ways that are almost unimaginable... ;)
RalGrl
I thought the exact same thing!
Only, instead of a log (b/c that would have meant leaving him long
enough to find one) I seriously would have literally jumped up and down
on his face with my full weight (aiming squarely for his nose) until I
knew for sure he was either out or dead. At that point, she would have
been totally justified (at least in TV-land) in killing him.
But what ultimately happened to him was poetic justice. Falls down a
well, breaks his leg (which is a serious injury) and then calls the one
guy who hates his guts to come rescue him. BWAHAHAHAH!!!
Palpie
Ian J. Ball" <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>"PRISON BREAK" 11/14/05
>
>Episode 1.11: "And Then There Were 7"
>
>
>Grade it! (letter grades preferred)
>All comments welcome.
>
>What did you think?
B-
Veronica not finishing off Quinn has to be her stupidest action yet
(and sadly that's saying a lot). But as it led to Quinn in a well and
Kellerman reclaiming his evil bastard crown I'm willing to accept it.
Not much to say about the inside action. Just about everything is
moving into place for the big break out. I do wonder if Bellick will
find a way to cause trouble.
And the we have to dump one guy thing should make next week very
tense. T-Bag would seem to be the obvious choice, so I think he'll be
safe. I'm kinda expecting Sucre or Westmoreland to be the one left
behind.
BTR1701
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 11:35:18 -0500, BTR1701 <btr...@ix.netcom.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <1132066116....@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Kyle B." <kbir...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I hate when people knock villians out, and then try to get away without
> >> verifying the guy is really knocked out. If I had been Lady Lawyer:
> >> after I knocked him out with the chair, I would have beat on his head
> >> with a log. Then I would have tied him up, just to be sure.
> >
> >Or maybe just grabbed his gun and turned his lights off for good.
>
> Speaking of which, why would the *other* agents leave him alive as
> well?
Because they came directly from the "stupid goon" bin at central casting.
Palpie
Ian J. Ball" <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article
><ijball***SPAM-No***-5907FB.164...@news-lb-01.socal.rr.com>,
> "Erin Woodbridge's Bestest Friend, Ian J. Ball"
> <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> "PRISON BREAK" 11/14/05
>> Episode 1.11: "And Then There Were 7"
>>
>>
>> Grade it! (letter grades preferred)
>
>Hey?! Where the heck are you guys?!!
>My score:
>
>4.1
>
>This show is just a great ride. Lots of good stuff.
>
>D.B. is now #7.
And, of course, that's one too many.
>The Doc is all pissy with Michael now.
>
>Quinn "completes" his job.
>
>And Bellick is hot on Scofield's trial.
You mean trail? Michael already had his trial.
>Nice.
>
>
>Ian (Still waiting to see how the breakout gets "aborted" in two weeks,
>so they can start it all over again in the New Year...)
I don't think the break out is going to fail. Linc would then be
doomed and Michael would have no reason to help the other 5 escape
anymore.
Ian J. Ball
Palpie <pal...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
> I do wonder if Bellick will
> find a way to cause trouble.
Of course he will! :)
> And the we have to dump one guy thing should make next week very
> tense. T-Bag would seem to be the obvious choice, so I think he'll be
> safe. I'm kinda expecting Sucre or Westmoreland to be the one left
> behind.
They need D.B. They don't need Sucre.
That said, I expect T-Bag will get the axe.
Ian (Think about it: what's the one kind of criminal they *can't*
follow on the outside? A murdering child molester, that's who! Ergo, one
way or the other, T-Bag is toast...)
record...@gmail.com
w/Belleck and the "wife," but I like PB in general as much as I did the
last 24.
I wish Marilyn the Cat had lived, now that she'd be part of the escape.
I hope T-Bag is the sacrifice, but like Jim on Martha's Apprentice,
they need his brand of assholeishness.
I was so glad to see Quinn fall in the hole. That almost makes up for
the Belleck/"wife" lameness.
BTR1701
record...@gmail.com wrote:
> B+. Not the best episode, because of the improbability of the thread
> w/Belleck and the "wife," but I like PB in general as much as I did the
> last 24.
>
> I wish Marilyn the Cat had lived, now that she'd be part of the escape.
>
> I hope T-Bag is the sacrifice, but like Jim on Martha's Apprentice,
> they need his brand of assholeishness.
I can't figure out why Abruzzi didn't have his crew dispose of Teabag
the moment he started trying to horn in on the whole project. Shank him
in the shower, leave him lying in a pool of his own blood, no one the
wiser. Just another prison killing. Hell, the fact that he's an open and
notorious child molester makes it all the more strange that he hadn't
been killed long before Scofield ever arrived. Usually those types don't
last long in prison.
KC
Yes, I thought about the Governor, but he's quite the hardass, so I
can't even conceive of how they would get from Point A (a guy who
never? gives pardons) to Point B (a stay of any length).
That's what I like best, though. When it happens, we'll think, "No way
would I have guessed that route."
KC
Ian Galbraith
[snip]
> I can't figure out why Abruzzi didn't have his crew dispose of Teabag
> the moment he started trying to horn in on the whole project. Shank him
> in the shower, leave him lying in a pool of his own blood, no one the
> wiser. Just another prison killing. Hell, the fact that he's an open and
> notorious child molester makes it all the more strange that he hadn't
> been killed long before Scofield ever arrived. Usually those types don't
> last long in prison.
Yup, they really needed a reason to keep T-Bag alive. I mean even the
guards wouldn't bat an eyelid if he was killed.
--
You Can't Stop The Signal
kenm47
B+/A-
I thought it was the tightest hour they've had yet. Maybe I'm getting
soft, but that was a decent episode.
Even the promo for next week looks good.
Ken (Brooklyn)
bkl...@yahoo.com
Yes, that was PURE B horror film schlock. She didn't even have the good
to TAKE HIS GUN!
I mean, personally, I've have been tempted to slash his throat, since
he'd already shot someone in the back it was obvious I was in a "him or
me" situation.
bkl...@yahoo.com
That totally occured to me too. I mean the guy is mean, mean, mean and
ruthless and you leave him alive. If there was ANY chance of him
getting out alive you know he'd come after you with both barrels.
(I was reminded of Dr. Evil saying to Austin Powers, "Ok, I'm going to
leave you alone now and just assume the sharks will eat you. No sense
in hanging around an making sure you really are dead!")
But really the real reason can only be that he'll survive and show up
to wreck havoc in the days up to the finale.
I still love this show. It at least wasn't as ridiculous as Marwan on
24 last year repeatedly escaping from CTU via the back door.
cloud dreamer
> Speaking of which, why would the *other* agents leave him alive as
> well? They've shown no compunction about killing unarmed innocents to
> eliminate any possibility of retaliation, but a trained, armed agent
> that's pretty mildly (not life-threateningly) wounded is just left
> there? If there's water in the well, the guy can last a week or more -
> plenty of time for some bystander to find him and save him.
> epbrown
Didn't the agent in the well have his cell phone? What's to stop him
from calling 911 and saying "Help, I've fallen in a well and I can't get
out....oh, and somehow the wood pallet got dragged back over the
entrance...but don't mind that....JUST GET ME OUTTA HERE!"
..
bkl...@yahoo.com
The wife sure gave Scoffeild up pretty easily. Not that I didn't find
that believeable. She seems mostly motivated by her desire to
immigrate, so she was protecting the only thing that mattered to her.
Palpie
He told Kellerman the battery had died when Kellerman asked why they
couldn't get him when they called him back. Kellerman wouldn't have
left him there if he thought Quinn had a working phone he could use to
get more reliable help. That doesn't mean QUinn won't get out
somehow, I sorta hope he does. But, unless he was lying to Kellerman
for some reason (and also didn't answer his phone for the same/some
other reason) Quinn isn't calling for help.
cloud dreamer
I knew I had missed something there. It seemed too obvious.
I'd love to see him get out too. Revenge would be sweet.
..
~consul
> Didn't the agent in the well have his cell phone? What's to stop him
> from calling 911 and saying "Help, I've fallen in a well and I can't get
> out....oh, and somehow the wood pallet got dragged back over the
> entrance...but don't mind that....JUST GET ME OUTTA HERE!"
The two original agents said that they kept trying to call, but got no answer.
Quinn said that his phone died a while ago. So he can't call anymore. I think I
like leaving him there so he dies slowly. No one else is going to look for him,
unless there is someone else who was monitoring him. He called to 'someone' to
triangulate his position, was it those two guys or his own groups of agents?
--
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Trials, we shall do what needs to be done."
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William December Starr
"Kyle B." <kbir...@yahoo.com> said:
Oh gods, yes. This guy Quinn must have some sort of magical Get Out
Of Being Killed card signed by God himself. *Nobody* ever finishes
him off -- first Lady Lawyer, then all three of them, and _then_
evil-bad-kill-without-remorse Kellerman. It was just amazing.
--
William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
William December Starr
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball***NO-SPAM***@mac.com.invalid> said:
> They need D.B. They don't need Sucre.
>
> That said, I expect T-Bag will get the axe.
If I had to guess, I'd _almost_ bet Sucre's girlfriend Maricruz)
will show up to visit him, tell him that she dumped his asshole
cousin when he tried groping her, profess her True Love for him,
etc., and he'll decide to stay inside and finish out his remaining
sixteen months.
I say "_almost_" because I can't figure out a way for the escape to
proceed in a way that wouldn't leave Sucre holding the bag vis a vis
the alterations that Scofield's made to their cell, and getting
nailed for being an accomplice to the escape anyway even though he
didn't go out. But aside from that, it seems a perfect "everybody
comes out of it more or less happy" solution to the problem.
(Back-up plan -- "D.B." Westmoreland's daughter dies earlier than
the doctors predicted, obviating his need to break out.)
KC
Starr) wrote:
True, there are inmates who have nothing to lose and more to gain by
escaping and Sucre isn't one of them, even if Maricruz doesn't dump
the cousin. I always thought his reasoning was a little lame,
although, as you say, he's going to be suspect anyway, so he might as
well go with the group.
Maybe Michael can work it so that it looks like he escaped from some
location other than his and Sucre's cell.
I think that Westmoreland will go with the group, though, because
they, or perhaps the plot, will need his money. If the plot has been
planned out for 2 seasons, as I read in EW, then they will be on the
run and will need funds.
KC
bkl...@yahoo.com
It seems impossible that they wouldn't search Michael's cell after they
realize he's gone and find the hole.
If Sucre dropped out, he might be able to switch cell mate in enough
time to have "plausible deniability." ?
KC
wrote:
Don't they have 4 days left, or something like that? The fact that
he's on PI would mean that he knows about the hole in the old guard's
building, so even if he changed cells last week, he'd be in big
trouble. I'm going to change my stance, he'd better go with the gang.
As much as I'd love to see T-Bag get whacked, the new member of the
team, C-Note?, has no place in the group, he hasn't risked as much as
the rest for as long.
I can't believe I'm making an argument that T-Bag deserves to be in
the group! At least he's been a participating member longer than
C-Note.
KC
~consul
> True, there are inmates who have nothing to lose and more to gain by
> escaping and Sucre isn't one of them, even if Maricruz doesn't dump
> the cousin. I always thought his reasoning was a little lame,
> although, as you say, he's going to be suspect anyway, so he might as
> well go with the group.
>
> Maybe Michael can work it so that it looks like he escaped from some
> location other than his and Sucre's cell.
The toilet was unscrewed, so presumably, they can fudge it so they pull the
bolts through and screw them still.
~consul
> Don't they have 4 days left, or something like that? The fact that
> he's on PI would mean that he knows about the hole in the old guard's
> building, so even if he changed cells last week, he'd be in big
> trouble. I'm going to change my stance, he'd better go with the gang.
> As much as I'd love to see T-Bag get whacked, the new member of the
> team, C-Note?, has no place in the group, he hasn't risked as much as
> the rest for as long.
>
> I can't believe I'm making an argument that T-Bag deserves to be in
> the group! At least he's been a participating member longer than
> C-Note.
To me, since 2nd season is about them on the outside, Scofield will need allies
who are criminals. T-Bag is the only one w/o a ... usable network. We have
italian mobsters, black hoods, and puerto rican gangbangers, and we now add the
white 'old pro' network. I can't see how having a pedophile network really helps
the team.
BTR1701
wds...@panix.com (William December Starr) wrote:
Did they explain why it is that they can't all escape?
I know they only have 18 minutes between guard rounds but why can't some
of them go across during the first 18 minutes, then wait for the guards
to go by and then the rest go during the next 18 minute break?
Palpie
wrote:
Probably because they're going to remove the bars on one of the
windows of the infirmary, so if the guards are paying attention
they'll know something is up.
BTR1701
Palpie <pal...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
So you just stick the bars back in the holes when they walk by...