Celebrity worship; Reality TV; Talk shows.
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JWH
>Dawnie wrote:
>> On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:52:00 -0800 (PST), marcus <marc...@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You know how how there are certain TV shows, celebrities, actors,
>>> musicians, movies, books, places, events that many people think are
>>> wonderful, but you don't "get" why people like them so much?
>>> Name three.
>>>
>>> I'll start:
>>>
>>> Oprah, the Grateful Dead, "The Godfather".
>>
>> NASCAR, Miley Cyrus and THE BACHELOR-type reality TV.
>
>Only three? Sorry, I can't pick just three.
>
>I'll take Marcus' Oprah, your NASCAR, Miley Cyrus and THE BACHELOR-type
>reality TV, and raise you:
>
>_All_ other "Reality TV" *especially* on a so-called sci-fi channel
>(Sci-Fi or "Syfy" as they now call it.), *especially* American Idol,
>Dancing with the Stars, Scare Tactics, The Apprentice,
>Bachelor/Bachelorette, Age of Love, The Biggest Loser, So You Think You
>Can Dance, Deal or No Deal, Howie Do It, and Survivor. No, I'm not
>including reality TV like the News, PBS/History Channel/A&E/TLC/National
>Geographic documentaries, etc.
>
>Wrestling TV *especially* on a so-called sci-fi channel (Sci-Fi/Syfy).
>
>_All_ RAP/Hip Hop, everywhere.
>
>College and Pro Basketball on Network or mainstream cable (non-Sports
>cable) TV (March F-ing Madness, NBA F-ing Playoffs and Draft, etc.).
>
>College and Pro Football on Network or mainstream cable (non-Sports
>cable) TV
>
>All sports talk shows on on Network or mainstream cable (non-Sports
>cable) TV
>
>Tennis on Network or mainstream cable (non-Sports cable) TV
>
>"Star Trek: Deep Space Nine"
>
>"Star Trek: Voyager"
>
>"Dollhouse" (especially for Eliza Dushku trying to act.)
>
>"The Office" (US version. Never saw the UK version.) and Rainn Wilson.
>
>~80% of "The Jay Leno Show" He has enough good material for 1 hr. per
>week, _not_ 5 hrs. per week.).
>
>"Smallville" (which I dropped after Season 1.)
>
>"24" which became repetitive after Season 2.
>
>"My Name is Earl" (What's worse for killing brain cells, drugs/alcohol
>or this show?)
>
>"The Sarah Silverman Program"
>
>"CSI: Miami"
>
>David Caruso
>
>Donald Trump
>
>"The View"
>
>All of the dregs-of-society talk shows (Jerry Springer, Montel, etc.).
>
>All of the dregs-of-society court TV shows.
>
>"Family Guy"
>
>"American Dad"
>
>Daytime and Nighttime soaps (e.g. old and new Melrose Place, 90210,
>etc.)
>
>"Late Night with Jimmy Fallon"
>
>"The Unit" (wives threads only)
>
>"Battlestar Galactica" (all the old stuff, and the new stuff after
>~Season 2.)
>
>"The Vampire Diaries"
>
>"Cops"
I don't know why I'm surprised that you have no taste at all.
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Captain Infinity
> On Nov 25, 12:04�pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <lc7qg5dkp9pf60cb3ghhoq0t9f6kaf7...@4ax.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > �Dawnie <siokm...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:18:33 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Dawnie wrote:
> > > >> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > > >> > Dawnie wrote:
> > > >> >> Speaking of Oprah, what do people have against her anyway? I've seen
> > > >> >> some vitriolic comments about her in other threads on occasion. What
> > > >> >> is it--racism, misogyny, jealousy?
> >
> > > >> >Uh, yeah, that's the only reason we could have for not liking her.
> >
> > > >> Well, I'm *asking* what they are.
> >
> > > >Sorry, it sounded more like an accusation, like those were the only
> > > >possible reasons.
> >
> > > Nobody wants to tell me 8-(.
> >
> > Well, here's the thing. �The question is offensive on it's face. �I
> > mean, we rag on Sandra Lee, we rag on Kelly Lee. �Hell, I just started
> > an entire "Stupidest Woman on Television" thread (that was about 3/4
> > white IIRC, although the winner was Black, something I don't think I
> > even mentioned) and I suggested a "Stupidest Man on Television" thread
> > would start with Charlie Sheen. �We're equal opportunity raggers here.
> > But if you don't like Oprah, suddenly you're accused of racism,
> > misogyny, jealousy.
> >
> > Why am I not allowed to just not like Oprah? �She doesn't call to me at
> > all. �I dislike her for that show where she defamed the beef industry
> > and wish she'd lost the lawsuit. �Mostly I'm annoyed at the people that
> > worship at her altar, the ones that keep drooling about how generous she
> > is for giving stuff to the audience, like that was done out of her
> > pocket and not donated by advertisers. �Why aren't those same people
> > praising Bob Barker or Drew Carey, much less Monte Hall, for how
> > generous they are to their audiences?
>
> I'm shoulder-to-shoulder with you on this one, FSK. It is true that
> we both are probably more annoyed by her so-called "fans" than by
> anything she does - although she does nothing to discourage them. The
> beef thing was the absolute limit both for her AND her fans. It has
> nothing whatsoever to do with racism, misogynism, or jealousy (envy
> would be a better word to use, but it isn't that, either).
>
> N.
What she said. :)
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>In article <mkerg5dkcblui3a71...@4ax.com>,
> Dawnie <siok...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:46:17 -0800 (PST), Nancy2
>> <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Re: Oprah
>> >Dawnie wrote:
>> >> >Uh, no. �She is not, never has been, and never will be anyone I ever
>> >> >want to watch, see or hear ever! �so she is not "every woman's."
>> >>
>> >> Sure. So since you obviously don't watch her show, what is it about
>> >> her that turns you off so much? Her reputation? What you read about
>> >> her show, what your friends tell you? It's not Oprah that I don't get,
>> >> it's why some people seem to dislike her so much, even without
>> >> watching her show.
>> >
>> >I think she's arrogant and a fraud. I don't have to explain my
>> >opinion - it's just an opinion.
>>
>> Of course you don't have to, but it'd better enlighten me if you did.
>> In the episodes I've seen--and they're few and far between, which
>> might explain why I don't see it--I didn't get an arrogant vibe from
>> her at all. Is she arrogant in her magazine? I've never read it, apart
>> from scanning through her Favorite Things every year. The fraud part I
>> can somewhat imagine--her fluctuating weight does seem kind of
>> dodgy... yet another opportunity to endorse more products, perhaps.
>
>Ooo, ooo, remember when she and her entourage wanted to get into a
>closed store, and screamed RACISM when they wouldn't open up, and the
>store chain had to back down and apologize? I think that goes under
>'arrogant'
Oprah's following was gathered many years before that incident.