New Year's Eve marathons
brian henke
A&E The FIrst 48
Bio Biography
Bravo Real Housewives of...
ESPN College Football
ESPN2 College Basketball
G4 American Ninja Warrior
HGTV House Hunters International
History Strange Rituals
MTV2 Bully Beatdown
Nick SpongeBob SquarePants
Science How Do They Do It?
Syfy Twilight Zone
Spike Ultimate Fighter/UFC Fight Night
Style Clean House/Clean House Comes Clean
TNT Las Vegas
Travel Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern
USA Burn Notice
Vh1 I Love the New Millennium
WE Platinum Weddings
WGNAm In the Heat of the Night
Any others?
Cincy...@aol.com - RATV's pro wrestling ambassador
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your votes!
Barry Margolin
<48ffd6b7-76d7-4b04...@u20g2000vbq.googlegroups.com>,
brian henke <cincy...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bio Biography
Isn't that redundant? :)
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Ian J. Ball
> AMC Three Stooges (when AMC was good, they aired Stooges)
> A&E The FIrst 48
> Bio Biography
> Bravo Real Housewives of...
> ESPN College Football
> ESPN2 College Basketball
> G4 American Ninja Warrior
> HGTV House Hunters International
> History Strange Rituals
> MTV2 Bully Beatdown
> Nick SpongeBob SquarePants
> Science How Do They Do It?
> Syfy Twilight Zone
> Spike Ultimate Fighter/UFC Fight Night
> Style Clean House/Clean House Comes Clean
> TNT Las Vegas
> Travel Bizarre Foods with Andrew Zimmern
> USA Burn Notice
> Vh1 I Love the New Millennium
> WE Platinum Weddings
> WGNAm In the Heat of the Night
>
> Any others?
TeenNICK (was: The N) - Degrassi:TNG (from *the beginning*! - if you
haven't seen season #1 or #2 episodes before, now's your
chance!!!...)
record hunter
Teenager" marathons, starting at 7 AM Sunday with the pilot. The
entire first season and the first three episodes of the second will be
broadcast Sunday 7 AM-12 MID. Then, S2: 4-12, Monday 11 AM-8 PM, then
S2: 13 & 14, Monday 8-10 PM.
David
<ib...@san.rr.com> wrote:
>TeenNICK (was: The N) - Degrassi:TNG (from *the beginning*! - if you
>haven't seen season #1 or #2 episodes before, now's your
>chance!!!...)
The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns. The
first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off Ted"* on
Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
I will not forever remember New Year's as the day I watched "Degrassi:
TNG"!!!
*And Khandi Alexander was in both "Newsradio" and this episode of
"Ted." That's kinda weird, right?
**Thus perfectly demonstrating the progression of TV from the power of
local stations to not watching live tv and reruns at all and moving
almost entirely to an online streaming/downloading. Though if you're
in NY, WPIX is doing its annual "Honeymooners" marathon, which is nice
even though it gets shorter every year.
David
It's great that Ian has 3 days' notice to set his DVR but unnecessary,
as "Secret Life" has a season pass.
Ian J. Ball
Don't be ridiculous.
But if ABC Family runs a "Make It or Break It" marathon before the
premiere of the show's back-half of season #1, I might watch that.
Default User
> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns. The
> first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off Ted"* on
> Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
The AMC Stooges marathon was still running, so I watched "Disorder in
the Court" and "Men in Black".
Brian
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Stan Brown
> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns. The
> first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off Ted"* on
> Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
I watched the first two episodes of /Elizabeth R/. Damn, I had
forgotten just how good it was.
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http://OakRoadSystems.com/
"You may be the Universe's butt puppet, but I'm its right-
hand fist of fate." -- /Wonderfalls/
Mac Breck
> Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:31:51 -0500 from David <diml...@yahoo.com>:
>> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns. The
>> first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off Ted"* on
>> Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
>
> I watched the first two episodes of /Elizabeth R/. Damn, I had
> forgotten just how good it was.
Looks like "Better Off Ted" is showing a new ep. tonight at 8:30EST.
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people. I've been trying to decide whether or not I should risk it
again."
Stan Brown
<macthe...@yahoo.com>:
>
> Stan Brown wrote:
> > Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:31:51 -0500 from David <diml...@yahoo.com>:
> >> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns. The
> >> first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off Ted"* on
> >> Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
> >
> > I watched the first two episodes of /Elizabeth R/. Damn, I had
> > forgotten just how good it was.
>
> Looks like "Better Off Ted" is showing a new ep. tonight at 8:30EST.
Another broken promise from ABC.
Mac Breck
> Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500 from Mac Breck
> <macthe...@yahoo.com>:
>>
>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>> Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:31:51 -0500 from David <diml...@yahoo.com>:
>>>> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns. The
>>>> first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off Ted"*
>>>> on Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
>>>
>>> I watched the first two episodes of /Elizabeth R/. Damn, I had
>>> forgotten just how good it was.
>>
>> Looks like "Better Off Ted" is showing a new ep. tonight at 8:30EST.
>
> Another broken promise from ABC.
Yeah, it started at 8:40PM because of f-ing football.
David
<macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Stan Brown wrote:
>> Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500 from Mac Breck
>> <macthe...@yahoo.com>:
>>>
>>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>>> Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:31:51 -0500 from David <diml...@yahoo.com>:
>>>>> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns. The
>>>>> first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off Ted"*
>>>>> on Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
>>>>
>>>> I watched the first two episodes of /Elizabeth R/. Damn, I had
>>>> forgotten just how good it was.
>>>
>>> Looks like "Better Off Ted" is showing a new ep. tonight at 8:30EST.
>>
>> Another broken promise from ABC.
>
>Yeah, it started at 8:40PM because of f-ing football.
And got its best ratings of the season.
Mac Breck
If that's because of the 10 minute football overrun into the 8:30-9:00
slot, those are false readings. Still, it was a good ep. It was pure
luck that I was there to adjust the start time for the recording at the
last minute. It had started to record for the 8:28-9:02 event I'd
programmed, and saw the crap that was being recorded, stopped it,
rewound, and started the recording manually.
David
<macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>David wrote:
>> On Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:28:54 -0500, "Mac Breck"
>> <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>>> Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500 from Mac Breck
>>>> <macthe...@yahoo.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>>>>> Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:31:51 -0500 from David <diml...@yahoo.com>:
>>>>>>> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns.
>>>>>>> The first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off
>>>>>>> Ted"* on Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I watched the first two episodes of /Elizabeth R/. Damn, I had
>>>>>> forgotten just how good it was.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like "Better Off Ted" is showing a new ep. tonight at
>>>>> 8:30EST.
>>>>
>>>> Another broken promise from ABC.
>>>
>>> Yeah, it started at 8:40PM because of f-ing football.
>>
>> And got its best ratings of the season.
>
>If that's because of the 10 minute football overrun into the 8:30-9:00
>slot, those are false readings. Still, it was a good ep.
It should end up as the season's most watched episode just on the
basis of having a strong lead-in instead of "Scrubs." And ABC's airing
it after their biggest event of the Winter isn't giving up on it,
which I think Stan was inferring.
Stan Brown
>
> Stan Brown wrote:
> > Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500 from Mac Breck
> > <macthe...@yahoo.com>:
> >
> > Another broken promise from ABC.
>
> Yeah, it started at 8:40PM because of f-ing football.
I stopped scanning forward at nine minutes and some seconds, figuring
if I was going to miss the last third (or more) of the episode there
would be too much frustration at seeing the first two thirds (or
less).
Stan Brown
> It should end up as the season's most watched episode just on the
> basis of having a strong lead-in instead of "Scrubs." And ABC's airing
> it after their biggest event of the Winter isn't giving up on it,
> which I think Stan was inferring.
No, I wasn't inferring that, nor even implying it.
Mac Breck
> Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:28:54 -0500 from Mac Breck
> <macthe...@yahoo.com>:
>>
>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>> Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500 from Mac Breck
>>> <macthe...@yahoo.com>:
>>>> Looks like "Better Off Ted" is showing a new ep. tonight at
>>>> 8:30EST.
>>>
>>> Another broken promise from ABC.
>>
>> Yeah, it started at 8:40PM because of f-ing football.
>
> I stopped scanning forward at nine minutes and some seconds, figuring
> if I was going to miss the last third (or more) of the episode there
> would be too much frustration at seeing the first two thirds (or
> less).
It was good right up to the last second.
record hunter
> Stan Brown wrote:
> > Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500 from Mac Breck
>
> >> Stan Brown wrote:
> >>> Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:31:51 -0500 from David <dimla...@yahoo.com>:
> >>>> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns. The
> >>>> first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off Ted"*
> >>>> on Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
>
> >>> I watched the first two episodes of /Elizabeth R/. Damn, I had
> >>> forgotten just how good it was.
>
> >> Looks like "Better Off Ted" is showing a new ep. tonight at 8:30EST.
>
> > Another broken promise from ABC.
>
> Yeah, it started at 8:40PM because of f-ing football.
If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in three
years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your favorite
sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it go to one of the
(at least) four extended basic sports channels?
David
> If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in three
> years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your favorite
> sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it go to one of the
> (at least) four extended basic sports channels?
So long as sports are popular there's no reason for the networks to
stop airing them. Actually with the added cable revenue they'll be
able to keep some of their rights from being scooped up by ESPN
because of its deep pockets.
David
> Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:16:01 -0500 from David <dimla...@yahoo.com>:
>
> > It should end up as the season's most watched episode just on the
> > basis of having a strong lead-in instead of "Scrubs." And ABC's airing
> > it after their biggest event of the Winter isn't giving up on it,
> > which I think Stan was inferring.
>
> No, I wasn't inferring that, nor even implying it.
What did "another broken promise by ABC" mean?
Mac Breck
Hopefully, ALL sports would go to dedicated sports channels and leave
scripted dramas and comedies the hell alone.
Mac Breck
> On Jan 4, 1:28 pm, record hunter <record.hun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in three
>> years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your favorite
>> sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it go to one of
>> the (at least) four extended basic sports channels?
>
> So long as sports are popular there's no reason for the networks to
> stop airing them.
Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
_after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long some
coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
> Actually with the added cable revenue they'll be
> able to keep some of their rights from being scooped up by ESPN
> because of its deep pockets.
Hell, let it ALL go to sports channels. Maybe then all TV providers
(cable, satellite and Verizon) will offer a sports package which
includes *everything* in sports. Then all the sports fanatics can
simply buy one package.
record hunter
> David wrote:
> > On Jan 4, 1:28 pm, record hunter <record.hun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in three
> >> years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your favorite
> >> sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it go to one of
> >> the (at least) four extended basic sports channels?
>
> > So long as sports are popular there's no reason for the networks to
> > stop airing them.
>
> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
> _after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long some
> coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
It's ruined COLD CASE for me.
> > Actually with the added cable revenue they'll be
> > able to keep some of their rights from being scooped up by ESPN
> > because of its deep pockets.
>
> Hell, let it ALL go to sports channels. Maybe then all TV providers
> (cable, satellite and Verizon) will offer a sports package which
> includes *everything* in sports. Then all the sports fanatics can
> simply buy one package.
Yes, please. Let it go to sports channels. PLEASE.
record hunter
> record hunter wrote:
> > On Jan 2, 4:28 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> Stan Brown wrote:
> >>> Fri, 1 Jan 2010 17:34:18 -0500 from Mac Breck
> >>> <macthevor...@yahoo.com>:
>
> >>>> Stan Brown wrote:
> >>>>> Fri, 01 Jan 2010 02:31:51 -0500 from David <dimla...@yahoo.com>:
> >>>>>> The first shows I watched in 2000 were two "Newsradio" reruns.
> >>>>>> The first shows I watched in 2010 were "Scrubs" and "Better Off
> >>>>>> Ted"* on Hulu and UK's "Misfits."**
>
> >>>>> I watched the first two episodes of /Elizabeth R/. Damn, I had
> >>>>> forgotten just how good it was.
>
> >>>> Looks like "Better Off Ted" is showing a new ep. tonight at
> >>>> 8:30EST.
>
> >>> Another broken promise from ABC.
>
> >> Yeah, it started at 8:40PM because of f-ing football.
>
> > If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in three
> > years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your favorite
> > sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it go to one of the
> > (at least) four extended basic sports channels?
>
> Hopefully, ALL sports would go to dedicated sports channels and leave
> scripted dramas and comedies the hell alone.
Amen.
David
<macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>David wrote:
>> On Jan 4, 1:28 pm, record hunter <record.hun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in three
>>> years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your favorite
>>> sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it go to one of
>>> the (at least) four extended basic sports channels?
>>
>> So long as sports are popular there's no reason for the networks to
>> stop airing them.
>
>Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
>_after_ them.
They don't want to do that either, as part of the reason they're
willing to pay high license fees is because sports help the rest of
their lineup.
>> Actually with the added cable revenue they'll be
>> able to keep some of their rights from being scooped up by ESPN
>> because of its deep pockets.
>
>Hell, let it ALL go to sports channels. Maybe then all TV providers
>(cable, satellite and Verizon) will offer a sports package which
>includes *everything* in sports.
There's no logical reason why sports fans should need to subscribe to
cable and order an extra tier (and you hating sports or being
inconvenienced isn't a reason). We're not talking about something with
a small but loyal following. Sports are more popular than anything
else the networks air and a large part of the population are fans of
one sport or another. It's even less reasonable than saying "all
sitcoms" or "all crime dramas should move to premium cable."
Stan Brown
<record...@gmail.com>:
> > Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
> > _after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long some
> > coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
>
> It's ruined COLD CASE for me.
I gave up on /Three Rivers/ for this reason. And a couple of years
ago it was enough to make me stop watching /The Simpsons/ and /Family
Guy/.
TBerk
<snip>
>
>
> Any others?
>
Turner Classic Movies (TCM) had the whole 'Thin Man' series for New
Years. Turns out there were six films in total and Myrna Loy still
has is working, all these many years later.
As for the thread drift of Sports overrunning pre-scheduled programs;
my initial reaction is - "stop whining...".
berk
Mac Breck
> Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:59:17 -0800 (PST) from record hunter
> <record...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> On Jan 4, 4:05 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
>>> _after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long
>>> some coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
>>
>> It's ruined COLD CASE for me.
>
> I gave up on /Three Rivers/ for this reason. And a couple of years
> ago it was enough to make me stop watching /The Simpsons/ and /Family
> Guy/.
I gave up on "Shark" for that reason. If a show goes to weekends, it's
dead to me.
Mac Breck
> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:05:31 -0500, "Mac Breck"
> <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> David wrote:
>>> On Jan 4, 1:28 pm, record hunter <record.hun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in three
>>>> years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your favorite
>>>> sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it go to one of
>>>> the (at least) four extended basic sports channels?
>>>
>>> So long as sports are popular there's no reason for the networks to
>>> stop airing them.
>>
>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
>> _after_ them.
>
> They don't want to do that either, as part of the reason they're
> willing to pay high license fees is because sports help the rest of
> their lineup.
Sports also kills whatever scripted dramas or comedies they put on after
sports, especially on weekends (heavy sports days). The key is to put
the scripted dramas on _before_ sports, not after. As far as I'm
concerned, all they should put on after sports are Reality TV (evil
grin), infomercials, the News, or a test pattern.
>>> Actually with the added cable revenue they'll be
>>> able to keep some of their rights from being scooped up by ESPN
>>> because of its deep pockets.
>>
>> Hell, let it ALL go to sports channels. Maybe then all TV providers
>> (cable, satellite and Verizon) will offer a sports package which
>> includes *everything* in sports.
>
> There's no logical reason why sports fans should need to subscribe to
> cable and order an extra tier
Why not? Sci-Fi (now Syfy) went to an even higher tier than I was
getting, and I would have had to pay extra to get that channel. I
decided that it wasn't worth the extra cost, and even dropped down one
tier from where I was, because I'd subscribed to the current one solely
to get Sci-Fi. (Referring to your paragraph below) I guess I just
wasn't "loyal" enough. Told Sci-Fi, don't let the door hit you on the
ass on your way out.
> (and you hating sports or being
> inconvenienced isn't a reason). We're not talking about something with
> a small but loyal following. Sports are more popular than anything
> else the networks air and a large part of the population are fans of
> one sport or another.
Yes, I'm familiar with the dominance of the masses. It's OK, though.
The networks can move any scripted comedies and dramas they want to
weekends to die. Whatever they move there, I won't follow it.
> It's even less
No, I'd say it's about the same. Both sports and crime dramas are
mainstream. Maybe we should have scripted dramas and comedies that run
randomly long and then see how people like that. LOL!
> reasonable than saying "all
> sitcoms" or "all crime dramas should move to premium cable."
There are already sports packages (groups of channels). Just take the
stuff that isn't on them now and make them contain all sports.
record hunter
> Stan Brown wrote:
> > Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:59:17 -0800 (PST) from record hunter
>
> >> On Jan 4, 4:05 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
> >>> _after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long
> >>> some coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
>
> >> It's ruined COLD CASE for me.
>
> > I gave up on /Three Rivers/ for this reason. And a couple of years
> > ago it was enough to make me stop watching /The Simpsons/ and /Family
> > Guy/.
>
> I gave up on "Shark" for that reason. If a show goes to weekends, it's
> dead to me.
And then they go and cancel THREE RIVERS and SHARK, and only bring
COLD CASE back at the very last minute.
IT'S THE FOOTBALL, CBS. Not the shows.
Steve Newport
go to dedicated sports channels and leave scripted dramas and comedies
Can reality shows also go to their own channels?
record hunter
> From: macthevor...@yahoo.com (Mac Breck) Hopefully, ALL sports would
> go to dedicated sports channels and leave scripted dramas and comedies
> ----------------------------------------
> Can reality shows also go to their own channels?
There actually is a reality show channel. I wish all reality shows
could go there, but it's a super-premium digital cable station, so I'm
not holding my breath.
Anim8rFSK
"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Stan Brown wrote:
> > Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:59:17 -0800 (PST) from record hunter
> > <record...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> On Jan 4, 4:05 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
> >>> _after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long
> >>> some coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
> >>
> >> It's ruined COLD CASE for me.
> >
> > I gave up on /Three Rivers/ for this reason. And a couple of years
> > ago it was enough to make me stop watching /The Simpsons/ and /Family
> > Guy/.
>
> I gave up on "Shark" for that reason. If a show goes to weekends, it's
> dead to me.
Yeah, the only reason we kept watching "Shark" was that the DVR was
tracking it down automatically.
--
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His chosen event? The Broad Jump.
David
<macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>David wrote:
>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:05:31 -0500, "Mac Breck"
>> <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> David wrote:
>>>> On Jan 4, 1:28 pm, record hunter <record.hun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in three
>>>>> years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your favorite
>>>>> sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it go to one of
>>>>> the (at least) four extended basic sports channels?
>>>>
>>>> So long as sports are popular there's no reason for the networks to
>>>> stop airing them.
>>>
>>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
>>> _after_ them.
>>
>> They don't want to do that either, as part of the reason they're
>> willing to pay high license fees is because sports help the rest of
>> their lineup.
>
>Sports also kills whatever scripted dramas or comedies they put on after
>sports, especially on weekends (heavy sports days).
They do not. Ratings are better for shows that follow sports. It's why
CBS starts the late games at 4:15 instead of 4:05.
>The key is to put the scripted dramas on _before_ sports, not after.
At 3 in the afternoon?
>As far as I'm concerned, all they should put on after sports are Reality TV (evil
>grin), infomercials, the News, or a test pattern.
That's actually reasonable by your standards, as you aren't suggesting
that all reality tv and news moves to a premium cable tier.
>>>> Actually with the added cable revenue they'll be
>>>> able to keep some of their rights from being scooped up by ESPN
>>>> because of its deep pockets.
>>>
>>> Hell, let it ALL go to sports channels. Maybe then all TV providers
>>> (cable, satellite and Verizon) will offer a sports package which
>>> includes *everything* in sports.
>>
>> There's no logical reason why sports fans should need to subscribe to
>> cable and order an extra tier
>
>Why not? Sci-Fi (now Syfy) went to an even higher tier than I was
>getting, and I would have had to pay extra to get that channel. I
>decided that it wasn't worth the extra cost, and even dropped down one
>tier from where I was, because I'd subscribed to the current one solely
>to get Sci-Fi. (Referring to your paragraph below) I guess I just
>wasn't "loyal" enough. Told Sci-Fi, don't let the door hit you on the
>ass on your way out.
Sci-Fi has a loyal but cult following and for the most part doesn't
work on the networks. It wouldn't be unreasonable for FOX to say "okay
you want Dollhouse? Its ratings don't justify airing it on network
primetime but we'll keep it alive and deliver it to you some other way
for an extra cost."
The broadcast networks are for mass appeal shows, and sports has that.
>> (and you hating sports or being
>> inconvenienced isn't a reason). We're not talking about something with
>> a small but loyal following. Sports are more popular than anything
>> else the networks air and a large part of the population are fans of
>> one sport or another.
>
>Yes, I'm familiar with the dominance of the masses. It's OK, though.
>The networks can move any scripted comedies and dramas they want to
>weekends to die. Whatever they move there, I won't follow it.
Whatever they lose from people who can't follow a show's starting time
they more than make up with people they gain through a stronger
lead-in.
erilar
birdp...@webtv.net (Steve Newport) wrote:
Oh, what a lovely fantasy! But then the major networks would have next
to nothing left 8-)
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
erilar
"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sports also kills whatever scripted dramas or comedies they put on after
> sports, especially on weekends (heavy sports days). The key is to put
> the scripted dramas on _before_ sports, not after. As far as I'm
> concerned, all they should put on after sports are Reality TV (evil
> grin), infomercials, the News, or a test pattern.
The test pattern I might watch. I wish my local TV station would run a
test pattern early in the morning on weekends rather than those
nauseating half-hour ads for things I can't imaging a rational person
buying.
erilar
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Whatever they lose from people who can't follow a show's starting time
> they more than make up with people they gain through a stronger
> lead-in.
Or maybe most of those sports fans don't know how to turn off the TV
because they've become hypnotized.
erilar
<4c23d0a8-66b2-450f...@m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
TBerk <bayar...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Turner Classic Movies (TCM) had the whole 'Thin Man' series for New
> Years. Turns out there were six films in total and Myrna Loy still
> has is working, all these many years later.
Boo hoo 8-( That would have made New Year a celebration if I got TCM.
erilar
"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Stan Brown wrote:
> > Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:59:17 -0800 (PST) from record hunter
> > <record...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> On Jan 4, 4:05 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
> >>> _after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long
> >>> some coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
> >>
> >> It's ruined COLD CASE for me.
> >
> > I gave up on /Three Rivers/ for this reason. And a couple of years
> > ago it was enough to make me stop watching /The Simpsons/ and /Family
> > Guy/.
>
> I gave up on "Shark" for that reason. If a show goes to weekends, it's
> dead to me.
I enjoyed "Shark" enough to tape a 2 1/2 hour chunk to sift through the
next day for a while. Other than that, I don't attempt to watch
anything but news on Sunday. I used to watch 60 Minutes, even after I
gave up on anything else, but now I only watch it if I remember to check
at 6:00 and turn off the TV if I see anything nauseating like a football
player.
David
<dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>In article <hkp6k51h00n4o3hen...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Whatever they lose from people who can't follow a show's starting time
>> they more than make up with people they gain through a stronger
>> lead-in.
>
>Or maybe most of those sports fans don't know how to turn off the TV
>because they've become hypnotized.
Because lead-ins only work when it's sports?
Mac Breck
It's _anything_ that runs long by a random number of minutes before a
show, _especially_ if the audiences are not compatible. Remembering
past examples, it could be Wrestling before CSI reruns on Spike, or it
could be Wrestling or Basketball before B5 and Crusade on TNT. If the
lead-in is an abomination to the viewer who wants to watch the show that
follows, the show that follows is going to take a hit.
Mac Breck
Was your DVR always successful in picking "Shark" out from the stuff
that surrounded it?
Mac Breck
> In article <hkp6k51h00n4o3hen...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Whatever they lose from people who can't follow a show's starting
>> time they more than make up with people they gain through a stronger
>> lead-in.
>
> Or maybe most of those sports fans don't know how to turn off the TV
> because they've become hypnotized.
Well, I have to admit that putting AN episode of a show after a sports
blockbuster does have the advantage of getting a large audience to
SAMPLE a show, IF the audiences are compatible. It's just that
following sports is *NOT* good as the PERMANENT home of a show,
ESPECIALLY if the audiences are NOT compatible.
David
<macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Well, I have to admit that putting AN episode of a show after a sports
>blockbuster does have the advantage of getting a large audience to
>SAMPLE a show, IF the audiences are compatible. It's just that
>following sports is *NOT* good as the PERMANENT home of a show,
>ESPECIALLY if the audiences are NOT compatible.
Arguably it doesn't help the 10 pm show but it helps the other shows
and CBS comes out ahead on the night overall. Here are CBS's Sunday
averages for the season:
9/20* 14.5 million, 4.5/12 18-49s
9/27* 11.7, 3.3/9 18-49s
10/4 10.4, 2.3/6 18-49s
10/11* 12.5, 3.6/9 18-49s
10/18* 13.8, 4.0/10 18-49s
10/25 10.0, 2.2/6 18-49s
11/1 10.0, 2.2/5 18-49s
11/8* 12.2, 3.1/8 18-49s
11/15 10.4, 2.3/6 18-49s
11/22* 12.6, 3.2/8 18-49s
11/29 12.6, 2.6/6 18-49s (CBS aired Hallmark Movie)
12/6 10.3, 2.4/6 18-49s
12/13* 12.2, 2.9/7 18-49s
12/20* 13.3, 3.8/10 18-49s
12/27 N/A
1/3* 10.5, 2.2/5 18-49s
Mac Breck
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 04:45:51 -0500, "Mac Breck"
> <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> David wrote:
>>> On Mon, 4 Jan 2010 16:05:31 -0500, "Mac Breck"
>>> <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> David wrote:
>>>>> On Jan 4, 1:28 pm, record hunter <record.hun...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If what's happening to TV now lands the networks on cable in
>>>>>> three years, will football continue to make COLD CASE (or your
>>>>>> favorite sports-impaired program) late every week? Or would it
>>>>>> go to one of the (at least) four extended basic sports channels?
>>>>>
>>>>> So long as sports are popular there's no reason for the networks
>>>>> to stop airing them.
>>>>
>>>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
>>>> _after_ them.
>>>
>>> They don't want to do that either, as part of the reason they're
>>> willing to pay high license fees is because sports help the rest of
>>> their lineup.
>>
>> Sports also kills whatever scripted dramas or comedies they put on
>> after
>> sports, especially on weekends (heavy sports days).
>
> They do not. Ratings are better for shows that follow sports. It's why
> CBS starts the late games at 4:15 instead of 4:05.
It could be a false high number for the show that follows the sports
program, caused by the sports overrun, like when that football game bled
into 10 minutes (33%) of the "Better Off Ted" 8:30-9:00 timeslot.
How long did "Shark" last after it was moved to Sunday? ...12 episodes
followed by a *three* *month* *break* and four episodes on Tuesday April
29, May 6, 13 & 20, 2008 after NCIS. Shark was confirmed cancelled on
May 14, 2008, the day after its third Tuesday airing.
How long did "The Unit" last after it was moved to Sunday (in Shark's
Dead Elm Tree slot)? ....and officially cancelled May 19, 2009.
48 4-01 28/Sep/08 Sacrifice
49 4-02 05/Oct/08 Sudden Flight
50 4-03 12/Oct/08 Sex Trade
51 4-04 19/Oct/08 The Conduit
52 4-05 26/Oct/08 Dancing Lessons
53 4-06 02/Nov/08 Inquisition
54 4-07 09/Nov/08 Into Hell, Part 1
55 4-08 16/Nov/08 Into Hell, part 2
56 4-09 23/Nov/08 Shadow Riders
57 4-10 30/Nov/08 Mislead and Misguided
2 week break (possibly reruns, dunno)
58 4-11 21/Dec/08 Switchblade
1 week break (holiday, possibly a rerun, dunno)
59 4-12 04/Jan/09 Bad Beat
60 4-13 11/Jan/09 The Spear of Destiny
1 month break (possibly reruns, dunno)
61 4-14 15/Feb/09 The Last Nazi
3 week break (possibly reruns, dunno)
62 4-15 08/Mar/09 Hero
63 4-16 15/Mar/09 Hill 60
64 4-17 22/Mar/09 Flesh & Blood
65 4-18 29/Mar/09 Best Laid Plans
1 week break (possibly a rerun, dunno)
66 4-19 12/Apr/09 Whiplash
1 week break (possibly a rerun, dunno)
67 4-20 26/Apr/09 Chaos Theory
68 4-21 03/May/09 Endgame
69 4-22 10/May/09 Unknown Soldier
>> The key is to put the scripted dramas on _before_ sports, not after.
>
> At 3 in the afternoon?
Anything's better than a random start time, though maybe not for
advertisers.
>> As far as I'm concerned, all they should put on after sports are
>> Reality TV (evil grin), infomercials, the News, or a test pattern.
>
> That's actually reasonable by your standards, as you aren't suggesting
> that all reality tv and news moves to a premium cable tier.
At least then the audiences would be compatible.
>>>>> Actually with the added cable revenue they'll be
>>>>> able to keep some of their rights from being scooped up by ESPN
>>>>> because of its deep pockets.
>>>>
>>>> Hell, let it ALL go to sports channels. Maybe then all TV
>>>> providers (cable, satellite and Verizon) will offer a sports
>>>> package which includes *everything* in sports.
>>>
>>> There's no logical reason why sports fans should need to subscribe
>>> to cable and order an extra tier
>>
>> Why not? Sci-Fi (now Syfy) went to an even higher tier than I was
>> getting, and I would have had to pay extra to get that channel. I
>> decided that it wasn't worth the extra cost, and even dropped down
>> one
>> tier from where I was, because I'd subscribed to the current one
>> solely
>> to get Sci-Fi. (Referring to your paragraph below) I guess I just
>> wasn't "loyal" enough. Told Sci-Fi, don't let the door hit you on
>> the
>> ass on your way out.
>
> Sci-Fi has a loyal but cult following and for the most part doesn't
> work on the networks. It wouldn't be unreasonable for FOX to say "okay
> you want Dollhouse? Its ratings don't justify airing it on network
> primetime but we'll keep it alive and deliver it to you some other way
> for an extra cost."
Dollhouse was partly produced by 20th Century Fox Television, and
distributed by Fox Network for broadcast here in the USA. Which FOX did
you mean?
If only Warner Brothers (studio) would have felt that way about Babylon
5 and Crusade going to Sci-Fi (Universal/Vivendi). Instead Warners
would rather have all of nothing rather than a percentage of something.
F-ing fools!!!
> The broadcast networks are for mass appeal shows, and sports has that.
>>> (and you hating sports or being
>>> inconvenienced isn't a reason). We're not talking about something
>>> with a small but loyal following. Sports are more popular than
>>> anything else the networks air and a large part of the population
>>> are fans of one sport or another.
>>
>> Yes, I'm familiar with the dominance of the masses. It's OK, though.
>> The networks can move any scripted comedies and dramas they want to
>> weekends to die. Whatever they move there, I won't follow it.
>
> Whatever they lose from people who can't
Not can't, *Won't* ...as in *won't* be bothered jumping through hoops to
follow a show they put in the variable start time, weekend graveyard.
> follow a show's starting time
> they more than make up with people they gain through a stronger
> lead-in.
Then explain the shows that die once they get moved to weekends?
David
<macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>David wrote:
>> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 04:45:51 -0500, "Mac Breck"
>> <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> Sports also kills whatever scripted dramas or comedies they put on
>>> after
>>> sports, especially on weekends (heavy sports days).
>>
>> They do not. Ratings are better for shows that follow sports. It's why
>> CBS starts the late games at 4:15 instead of 4:05.
>
>It could be a false high number for the show that follows the sports
>program, caused by the sports overrun, like when that football game bled
>into 10 minutes (33%) of the "Better Off Ted" 8:30-9:00 timeslot.
The "false high" appears in the overnights but is cleared out by the
final nationals. And surely the networks discern what the actual
numbers are before making a decision.
It also doesn't matter what an individual show's numbers are. CBS
would rather have a higher average from 7-11 pm than a higher average
for any one show.
>How long did "Shark" last after it was moved to Sunday? ...12 episodes
>followed by a *three* *month* *break* and four episodes on Tuesday April
>29, May 6, 13 & 20, 2008 after NCIS. Shark was confirmed cancelled on
>May 14, 2008, the day after its third Tuesday airing.
>
>How long did "The Unit" last after it was moved to Sunday (in Shark's
>Dead Elm Tree slot)? ....and officially cancelled May 19, 2009.
It may just be those two shows. "Shark"s only other slot was Thursday
at 10 so it's unknown whether it was ever a popular show or a timeslot
hit. And "The Unit" was on the bubble for renewal for most of its run.
Mac Breck
> In article <7rSdnTc4_bUllN7W...@supernews.com>,
> "Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Stan Brown wrote:
>>> Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:59:17 -0800 (PST) from record hunter
>>> <record...@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 4, 4:05 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
>>>>> _after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long
>>>>> some coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
>>>>
>>>> It's ruined COLD CASE for me.
>>>
>>> I gave up on /Three Rivers/ for this reason. And a couple of years
>>> ago it was enough to make me stop watching /The Simpsons/ and
>>> /Family Guy/.
>>
>> I gave up on "Shark" for that reason. If a show goes to weekends,
>> it's dead to me.
>
> I enjoyed "Shark" enough to tape a 2 1/2 hour chunk to sift through
> the next day for a while. Other than that, I don't attempt to watch
> anything but news on Sunday.
I only watch Retro TV on WGN-America (e.g The Honeymooners, Newhart,
Cheers and Barney Miller reruns.) on Sundays. They also run Bewitched
and I Dream of Jeannie, but I was never big on the former and am pretty
tired of the latter. I'm still looking for the Newhart "Joanna has a
Dust Bunny Phobia and Everybody Makes Fun of Her." episode (That's not
the title, but I have absolutely no idea what the correct episode title
is. :-( ). That's right up there with the Married with Children "Hi
IQ" as favorites of mine.
> I used to watch 60 Minutes, even after I
> gave up on anything else, but now I only watch it if I remember to
> check at 6:00 and turn off the TV if I see anything nauseating like a
> football player.
....or some football coach or commentator or player going on and on and
on..... Zzzzzzzz.
Anim8rFSK
"Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
> > In article <7rSdnTc4_bUllN7W...@supernews.com>,
> > "Mac Breck" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Stan Brown wrote:
> >>> Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:59:17 -0800 (PST) from record hunter
> >>> <record...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jan 4, 4:05 pm, "Mac Breck" <macthevor...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> Fine, air sports. Just don't air any scripted dramas or comedies
> >>>>> _after_ them. These random start times, which depend on how long
> >>>>> some coaches and/or commentators spew hot air, suck.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's ruined COLD CASE for me.
> >>>
> >>> I gave up on /Three Rivers/ for this reason. And a couple of years
> >>> ago it was enough to make me stop watching /The Simpsons/ and
> >>> /Family Guy/.
> >>
> >> I gave up on "Shark" for that reason. If a show goes to weekends,
> >> it's dead to me.
> >
> > Yeah, the only reason we kept watching "Shark" was that the DVR was
> > tracking it down automatically.
>
> Was your DVR always successful in picking "Shark" out from the stuff
> that surrounded it?
Yes. It was amazing. It tracked it down and got the whole thing, no
matter how hard they tried to hide it. I don't think I ever missed one,
or had to hunt down a torrent for one. It's the most successful the DVR
has ever been.
Mac Breck
So that was an aberration, your DVR finding the show every time?
Extravagan
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> Yes. It was amazing. It tracked it down and got the whole thing, no
>> matter how hard they tried to hide it. I don't think I ever missed
>> one, or had to hunt down a torrent for one. It's the most successful
>> the DVR has ever been.
>
> So that was an aberration, your DVR finding the show every time?
Aberration, hell. It was a miracle. Two more of those and he'll be
eligible for sainthood after he dies. Scary thought huh?