IRON CHEF SUPER CHEF BATTLE
Anim8rFSK
were hot). Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
White House chef.
She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. Clam
Chowder. First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
disqualified all by itself. Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
and substitutes broccoli pur�e - wtf? And she screws up the clams and
potatoes. So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
broccoli pur�e. Gah. Judges said it was the worst dish of the evening,
so, of course she and Flay won. Like we didn't know the fix was in.
Alton Brown hosts it while the Chairman makes weird generic comments via
a TV monitor.
--
Tiger Woods has just been named "Athlete of the Decade"
His chosen event? The Broad Jump.
Patty Winter
In article <ANIM8Rfsk-198CE...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
>White House chef.
Wow, I'm surprised you would make such a snippy comment about a
Bush appointee.
>She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. Clam
>Chowder. First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
>disqualified all by itself. Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
>and substitutes broccoli pur�e - wtf?
All of the good stuff about clam chowder without the fattening cream.
I thought it was clever.
Patty
JN
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ANIM8Rfsk-198CE...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
> Gah. The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
> were hot). Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> White House chef.
>
> She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. Clam
> Chowder. First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
> disqualified all by itself. Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
> and substitutes broccoli pur�e - wtf? And she screws up the clams and
> potatoes. So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
> broccoli pur�e. Gah. Judges said it was the worst dish of the evening,
> so, of course she and Flay won. Like we didn't know the fix was in.
Anytime Flay wins the fix is in.
Ubiquitous
>Gah. The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
>were hot). Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
>White House chef.
So who was the "special mystery guest" they kept hyping (but showing on the
promos)?
--
It is simply breathtaking to watch the glee and abandon with which
the liberal media and the Angry Left have been attempting to turn
our military victory in Iraq into a second Vietnam quagmire. Too bad
for them, it's failing.
Anim8rFSK
Patty Winter <pat...@wintertime.com> wrote:
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-198CE...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> > Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> >White House chef.
>
> Wow, I'm surprised you would make such a snippy comment about a
> Bush appointee.
She can't cook, so there's clearly some other reason she got her job.
>
> >She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. Clam
> >Chowder. First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
> >disqualified all by itself. Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
> >and substitutes broccoli pur�e - wtf?
>
> All of the good stuff about clam chowder without the fattening cream.
> I thought it was clever.
Improperly cooked clams and potatoes are good stuff? And note the
people that were forced to eat it hated it.
Anim8rFSK
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
>
> >Gah. The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
> >were hot). Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> >White House chef.
>
> So who was the "special mystery guest" they kept hyping (but showing on the
> promos)?
I didn't see the promos. The affirmative action chef was a short woman
with glasses. The judges were all female; Nigella Lawson, Jany Seymour,
and a hot blond Olympian. Best looking judging panel *ever* although
since they were supposed to be cooking 'all American food' is was odd to
have the judges be 2/3 metric.
Anim8rFSK
"JN" <jethro.n...@example.invalid> wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-198CE...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
> > Gah. The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
> > were hot). Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> > White House chef.
> >
> > She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. Clam
> > Chowder. First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
> > disqualified all by itself. Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
> > and substitutes broccoli pur�e - wtf? And she screws up the clams and
> > potatoes. So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
> > broccoli pur�e. Gah. Judges said it was the worst dish of the evening,
> > so, of course she and Flay won. Like we didn't know the fix was in.
>
> Anytime Flay wins the fix is in.
Only way he can win. Has he ever lost since that intial battle with
Morimoto where Morimoto whipped his ass easily, and they had to do a
phony rematch to let Flay win?
Kyle
> In article <hhrum0$l4...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>
>
>
>
>
> "JN" <jethro.nishim...@example.invalid> wrote:
> > "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote in message
> >news:ANIM8Rfsk-198CE...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
> > > Gah. The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
> > > were hot). Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> > > White House chef.
>
> > > She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. Clam
> > > Chowder. First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
> > > disqualified all by itself. Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
> > > potatoes. So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
> > > so, of course she and Flay won. Like we didn't know the fix was in.
>
> > Anytime Flay wins the fix is in.
>
> Only way he can win. Has he ever lost since that intial battle with
> Morimoto where Morimoto whipped his ass easily, and they had to do a
> phony rematch to let Flay win?
And acted like such a complete idiot during that first match with
Morimoto. When Flay jumped on his cutting board, prompting Morimoto
to say: "This man is not a chef. He is a poseur."
Kyle
> Gah. The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
> were hot). Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> White House chef.
>
> She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. Clam
> Chowder. First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
> disqualified all by itself. Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
> potatoes. So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
> so, of course she and Flay won. Like we didn't know the fix was in.
>
> Alton Brown hosts it while the Chairman makes weird generic comments via
> a TV monitor.
>
> --
> Tiger Woods has just been named "Athlete of the Decade"
> His chosen event? The Broad Jump.
I agree that the whole thing seemed fixed. But I would have been up
for trying Comerford's clam chowder.
Nigella Lawson looked fantastic.
Flay acted like an idiot, repeatedly melting down.
Ubiquitous
>On Jan 4, 10:49�am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>> In article <hhrum0$l4...@news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > Anytime Flay wins the fix is in.
>>
>> Only way he can win. �Has he ever lost since that intial battle with
>> Morimoto where Morimoto whipped his ass easily, and they had to do a
>> phony rematch to let Flay win?
>
>And acted like such a complete idiot during that first match with
>Morimoto. When Flay jumped on his cutting board, prompting Morimoto
>to say: "This man is not a chef. He is a poseur."
My fav part of that battle was watching Booby get a nasty shock from his
stove. Dance, Flay, dance!
Ubiquitous
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> So who was the "special mystery guest" they kept hyping (but showing on the
>> promos)?
>
>I didn't see the promos. The affirmative action chef was a short woman
>with glasses. The judges were all female; Nigella Lawson, Jany Seymour,
>and a hot blond Olympian. Best looking judging panel *ever* although
>since they were supposed to be cooking 'all American food' is was odd to
>have the judges be 2/3 metric.
The promos hyped a 'special super secret important" mystery guest,
accompanied by quick footage of what appeared to be Michelle Obama
entering Kitchen Stadium.
Nancy2
She was the special guest, but never left the White House. She only
appeared to introduce the secret ingredient, which was anything from
the WH garden.
N.
Ubiquitous
>> The promos hyped a 'special super secret important" mystery guest,
>> accompanied by quick footage of what appeared to be Michelle Obama
>> entering Kitchen Stadium.
>
>She was the special guest, but never left the White House. She only
>appeared to introduce the secret ingredient, which was anything from
>the WH garden.
OMG! If memory serves, the sludge/dirt used in the WH garden turned out
to have toxic amounts of Mercury or Lead or something in it.
Ubiquitous
>Flay acted like an idiot, repeatedly melting down.
Don't tempt me to watch this!
Anim8rFSK
<314f8e93-7324-4ae2...@q4g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Kyle <kyle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 4, 10:49�am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <hhrum0$l4...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > �"JN" <jethro.nishim...@example.invalid> wrote:
> > > "Anim8rFSK" <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > >news:ANIM8Rfsk-198CE...@news.dc1.easynews.com...
> > > > Gah. �The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
> > > > were hot). �Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> > > > White House chef.
> >
> > > > She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. �Clam
> > > > Chowder. �First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
> > > > disqualified all by itself. �Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
> > > > and substitutes broccoli pur�e - wtf? �And she screws up the clams and
> > > > potatoes. �So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
> > > > broccoli pur�e. �Gah. �Judges said it was the worst dish of the evening,
> > > > so, of course she and Flay won. �Like we didn't know the fix was in.
> >
> > > Anytime Flay wins the fix is in.
> >
> > Only way he can win. �Has he ever lost since that intial battle with
> > Morimoto where Morimoto whipped his ass easily, and they had to do a
> > phony rematch to let Flay win?
>
> And acted like such a complete idiot during that first match with
> Morimoto. When Flay jumped on his cutting board, prompting Morimoto
> to say: "This man is not a chef. He is a poseur."
Yep. Remember Flay yelling over and over again that he'd been
electrocuted??
IF YOU WERE ELECTROCUTED, WHY AREN'T YOU DEAD?
Anim8rFSK
<31a7f3c5-e6f5-416f...@l30g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
Kyle <kyle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jan 3, 10:48�pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > Gah. �The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
> > were hot). �Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> > White House chef.
> >
> > She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. �Clam
> > Chowder. �First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
> > disqualified all by itself. �Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
> > and substitutes broccoli pur�e - wtf? �And she screws up the clams and
> > potatoes. �So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
> > broccoli pur�e. �Gah. �Judges said it was the worst dish of the evening,
> > so, of course she and Flay won. �Like we didn't know the fix was in.
> >
> > Alton Brown hosts it while the Chairman makes weird generic comments via
> > a TV monitor.
> >
> > --
> > Tiger Woods has just been named "Athlete of the Decade"
> > His chosen event? �The Broad Jump.
>
> I agree that the whole thing seemed fixed. But I would have been up
> for trying Comerford's clam chowder.
Since everybody that tried it hated it, maybe not. :)
She really needed to call it something other than "Manhattan Clam
Chowder" in the first place.
>
> Nigella Lawson looked fantastic.
Actually, all l3 of the ladies did.
>
> Flay acted like an idiot, repeatedly melting down.
So, nothing new then. Why does he get upset at a rigged contest?
I missed the beginnnig. Did they explain where the Chairman was?
Anim8rFSK
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> >> So who was the "special mystery guest" they kept hyping (but showing on
> >> the
> >> promos)?
> >
> >I didn't see the promos. The affirmative action chef was a short woman
> >with glasses. The judges were all female; Nigella Lawson, Jany Seymour,
> >and a hot blond Olympian. Best looking judging panel *ever* although
> >since they were supposed to be cooking 'all American food' is was odd to
> >have the judges be 2/3 metric.
>
> The promos hyped a 'special super secret important" mystery guest,
> accompanied by quick footage of what appeared to be Michelle Obama
> entering Kitchen Stadium.
Oh. I only saw the second hour, but they had clips of (at least some
of) the Iron Chefs at the White House garden, greeted by MO, picking
produce. If she was in Kitchen Stadium, I didn't see her; she was just
on tape.
Anim8rFSK
<a49afc64-f7cd-4fc9...@f6g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>,
Nancy2 <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
BTW, 'worst secret ingredient ever' -- any bloody produce you can pick??
Anim8rFSK
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
He didn't melt down any more than usual.
Mark Nobles
> I missed the beginnnig. Did they explain where the Chairman was?
He was in California, training the new Middleman.
--
Don't blame me.
Anim8rFSK
Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > I missed the beginnnig. Did they explain where the Chairman was?
>
> He was in California, training the new Middleman.
Middleman!
Kyle
Sweet potato sort of became the de facto secret ingredient when
Michelle Obama said that it was something they should be sure to use.
And Batali's sweet potato ravioli really did look great.
I thought it was bad, a few years back, when "Breakfast" was announced
as a secret ingredient. No, idiots; breakfast was the end product of
the battle.
Kyle
>
>
>
>
>
> Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > On Jan 3, 10:48 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > > Gah. The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
> > > were hot). Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
> > > White House chef.
>
> > > She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. Clam
> > > Chowder. First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
> > > disqualified all by itself. Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
> > > potatoes. So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
> > > so, of course she and Flay won. Like we didn't know the fix was in.
>
> > > Alton Brown hosts it while the Chairman makes weird generic comments via
> > > a TV monitor.
>
> > > --
> > > Tiger Woods has just been named "Athlete of the Decade"
> > > His chosen event? The Broad Jump.
>
> > I agree that the whole thing seemed fixed. But I would have been up
> > for trying Comerford's clam chowder.
>
> Since everybody that tried it hated it, maybe not. :)
>
> She really needed to call it something other than "Manhattan Clam
> Chowder" in the first place.
>
>
>
> > Nigella Lawson looked fantastic.
>
> Actually, all l3 of the ladies did.
>
>
>
> > Flay acted like an idiot, repeatedly melting down.
>
> So, nothing new then. Why does he get upset at a rigged contest?
>
> I missed the beginnnig. Did they explain where the Chairman was?
No, they never explained why Dacascos was absent.
Kyle
LOL! I sure do remember that.
Takeshi Kaga once said something very funny about Morimoto's and
Flay's first match. He said, "In the end, both men won. Morimoto won
by proving he's a world class chef. And Bobby Flay won by proving
he's a fun guy." Nice damning of him with faint praise.
Kyle
By the way, one interesting unintended effect of having Alton Brown
substitute for "the Chairman" is that Dacascos's total impotence as a
food commentator was demonstrated. Brown actually engaged the judges
in discussion of the dishes -- something Kaga regularly did on the
original IC, and something Dacascos *never* does! In fact, once Alex
Guarnaschelli served her dishes, and noticed Dacascos's silence. She
asked, "Don't you ever say anything, Chairman?" There was a flicker
of terror on the guy's face, and nervously shook his head "No" and
then buried his head in his plate. (Why wasn't it edited out? I
guess someone decided it was "cute.") And we're supposed to believe
that this is the guy it's all being done for. With Kaga one could at
least suspend one's disbelief and play along.
Anim8rFSK
<1ae0bb62-3227-43e3...@a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Kyle <kyle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
And yet, somehow, he still lost . . .
>
> I thought it was bad, a few years back, when "Breakfast" was announced
> as a secret ingredient. No, idiots; breakfast was the end product of
> the battle.
Ack. I missed that one.
JN
Don't know his w/l record on Iron Chef, but he consistently loses on
'Throwdown', which is to be expected.
Mark Nobles
> And Batali's sweet potato ravioli really did look great.
This indicates something in The Next Iron Chef that I think really
hurts the show. They force the contestants into a certain style. There
was one contest when they went to Tokyo when the finalists were taken
to a little Yakitori stand and ordered to make innovative, traditional
dishes. But that isn't how Iron Chef works. If you put Morimoto in that
position, he would make innovative, traditional yakitori dishes. Flay
and Garces would make tamales. Battali would make ravioli. Symon would
make a sandwich. Cora would make gumbo. Mehta would make ice cream.
Richard Blais and Wylie Dufresne would freeze it in nitrogen and add
gin to make cocktails. Paula Deen would fry it in butter. Emeril would
kick it up a notch. Gordon Ramsay would make something simple,
seasonal, local and fresh. Jean Christophe Novelli would take his
students to a farm to catch and butcher their own birds, then cook them
using puff pastry. Each chef has a repertoire of solid dishes that they
vary to create their innovative dishes. Give them live squid to work
with, they'll still make things similar to what they'd make with
chicken.
>
> I thought it was bad, a few years back, when "Breakfast" was announced
> as a secret ingredient. No, idiots; breakfast was the end product of
> the battle.
>
It's not strictly according to the usual rules, but it was a legitimate
play on the rules providing an entertaining variation. Besides, wasn't
there a set of ingredients like eggs, bacon, ham, sausage, potatoes
that had to go into the preparation? Not all in every dish, rather in
the whole meal? They also recently did one with desserts, with Cat Cora
and Paula Deen against Tyler Florence and Robert Irvine.
What did you think of last year's Battle Thanksgiving using pilgrim
ingredients duck, heritage turkey, venison, walnuts, Indian corn,
lobster and leeks?
You know what would be fun: Alton Brown v. Ted Allen, with Cat Cora
doing the play-by-play.
Anim8rFSK
Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Kyle <kyle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > And Batali's sweet potato ravioli really did look great.
>
> This indicates something in The Next Iron Chef that I think really
> hurts the show. They force the contestants into a certain style. There
> was one contest when they went to Tokyo when the finalists were taken
> to a little Yakitori stand and ordered to make innovative, traditional
> dishes. But that isn't how Iron Chef works. If you put Morimoto in that
> position, he would make innovative, traditional yakitori dishes. Flay
> and Garces would make tamales. Battali would make ravioli. Symon would
> make a sandwich. Cora would make gumbo. Mehta would make ice cream.
> Richard Blais and Wylie Dufresne would freeze it in nitrogen and add
> gin to make cocktails. Paula Deen would fry it in butter. Emeril would
> kick it up a notch. Gordon Ramsay would make something simple,
> seasonal, local and fresh. Jean Christophe Novelli would take his
> students to a farm to catch and butcher their own birds, then cook them
> using puff pastry.
You left out Sandra Lee
Each chef has a repertoire of solid dishes that they
> vary to create their innovative dishes. Give them live squid to work
> with, they'll still make things similar to what they'd make with
> chicken.
> >
> > I thought it was bad, a few years back, when "Breakfast" was announced
> > as a secret ingredient. No, idiots; breakfast was the end product of
> > the battle.
> >
> It's not strictly according to the usual rules, but it was a legitimate
> play on the rules providing an entertaining variation. Besides, wasn't
> there a set of ingredients like eggs, bacon, ham, sausage, potatoes
> that had to go into the preparation? Not all in every dish, rather in
> the whole meal? They also recently did one with desserts, with Cat Cora
> and Paula Deen against Tyler Florence and Robert Irvine.
>
> What did you think of last year's Battle Thanksgiving using pilgrim
> ingredients duck, heritage turkey, venison, walnuts, Indian corn,
> lobster and leeks?
>
> You know what would be fun: Alton Brown v. Ted Allen, with Cat Cora
> doing the play-by-play.
--
As Adam West as Bruce Wayne as Batman said in "Smack in the Middle"
the second half of the series pilot when Jill St. John as Molly as
Robin as Molly fell into the Batmobile's atomic pile:
"What a way to go-go"
Mark Nobles
> Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > Kyle <kyle...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > And Batali's sweet potato ravioli really did look great.
> >
> > This indicates something in The Next Iron Chef that I think really
> > hurts the show. They force the contestants into a certain style. There
> > was one contest when they went to Tokyo when the finalists were taken
> > to a little Yakitori stand and ordered to make innovative, traditional
> > dishes. But that isn't how Iron Chef works. If you put Morimoto in that
> > position, he would make innovative, traditional yakitori dishes. Flay
> > and Garces would make tamales. Battali would make ravioli. Symon would
> > make a sandwich. Cora would make gumbo. Mehta would make ice cream.
> > Richard Blais and Wylie Dufresne would freeze it in nitrogen and add
> > gin to make cocktails. Paula Deen would fry it in butter. Emeril would
> > kick it up a notch. Gordon Ramsay would make something simple,
> > seasonal, local and fresh. Jean Christophe Novelli would take his
> > students to a farm to catch and butcher their own birds, then cook them
> > using puff pastry.
>
> You left out Sandra Lee
What would she do? Thinly slice the chicken breast, coat it with mayo,
nuke it, and add it and a cabbage leaf to a ham sandwich from the
vending machine along with a slice of toasted white bread to make a
club sandwich?
Anim8rFSK
Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
So it would be better than Flay's food then?
--
As Adam West as Bruce Wayne as Batman said in "Smack in the Middle"
the second half of the 1966 BATMAN series pilot when Jill St. John
Mark Nobles
WHITE BREAD, MAN! Don't you know what that means?
I also left out Fieri. I have no idea what he'd do. I don't think I've
ever seen him actually cook anything.
KC
<cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
He'd take an enormous bite of it and exclaim that it's, "Money!"
KC
shawn
wrote:
>On Jan 3, 10:48?pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>> Gah. ?The battle so awful we almost didn't bother (although the judges
>> were hot). ?Mario and Emeril against Flay and the affirmative action
>> White House chef.
>>
>> She made the single worst dish I've ever seen on an Iron Chef. ?Clam
>> Chowder. ?First, Manhattan Clam Chowder, which should get you fired and
>> disqualified all by itself. ?Then she leaves out the tomatoes and cream
>> and substitutes broccoli pur?e - wtf? ?And she screws up the clams and
>> potatoes. ?So she's got incorrectly cooked clams and potatoes in
>> broccoli pur?e. ?Gah. ?Judges said it was the worst dish of the evening,
>> so, of course she and Flay won. ?Like we didn't know the fix was in.
>>
>> Alton Brown hosts it while the Chairman makes weird generic comments via
>> a TV monitor.
>>
>> --
>> Tiger Woods has just been named "Athlete of the Decade"
>> His chosen event? ?The Broad Jump.
>
>By the way, one interesting unintended effect of having Alton Brown
>substitute for "the Chairman" is that Dacascos's total impotence as a
>food commentator was demonstrated. Brown actually engaged the judges
>in discussion of the dishes -- something Kaga regularly did on the
>original IC, and something Dacascos *never* does! In fact, once Alex
>Guarnaschelli served her dishes, and noticed Dacascos's silence. She
>asked, "Don't you ever say anything, Chairman?" There was a flicker
>of terror on the guy's face, and nervously shook his head "No" and
>then buried his head in his plate. (Why wasn't it edited out? I
>guess someone decided it was "cute.") And we're supposed to believe
>that this is the guy it's all being done for. With Kaga one could at
>least suspend one's disbelief and play along.
That makes me wonder why he doesn't talk. We know he can speak clearly
and even if he isn't a foodie he should be able to come up with some
questions about the food that's presented. I'm not expert and I'm sure
I could. Given that this is a show they could even write some lines
for him if they wanted so it must be a choice made by the producers to
have him not give any commentary on the food.
Ubiquitous
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
>> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> >> So who was the "special mystery guest" they kept hyping (but showing on
>> >> the
>> >> promos)?
>> >
>> >I didn't see the promos. The affirmative action chef was a short woman
>> >with glasses. The judges were all female; Nigella Lawson, Jany Seymour,
>> >and a hot blond Olympian. Best looking judging panel *ever* although
>> >since they were supposed to be cooking 'all American food' is was odd to
>> >have the judges be 2/3 metric.
>>
>> The promos hyped a 'special super secret important" mystery guest,
>> accompanied by quick footage of what appeared to be Michelle Obama
>> entering Kitchen Stadium.
>
>Oh. I only saw the second hour, but they had clips of (at least some
>of) the Iron Chefs at the White House garden, greeted by MO, picking
>produce. If she was in Kitchen Stadium, I didn't see her; she was just
>on tape.
*snicker*
I cannot believe they actually used produce grown in the White House
garden after questions were raised about whether the toxic sludge in
which it was grown made it unsafe to eat!
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to turn into (or back into) bitter critics with no strategic alternatives to
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Ellorysgirl
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 10:28:58 -0800 (PST), Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com>
>
> - Show quoted text -
Dacascos is an actor; I doubt he has any serious foodie genes.
N.
Ellorysgirl
>
> - Show quoted text -
And one other thing - Dacascos is not in a position to comment
negatively or affirmatively on the food he is being served - he isn't
one of the judges, he's just the host. Not being able to vote, he
shouldn't be talking about his likes and dislikes. Just like on
"Chopped," Ted Allen doesn't really criticize any of the dishes - he
just hosts.
N.
Anim8rFSK
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
> >> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> So who was the "special mystery guest" they kept hyping (but showing on
> >> >> the
> >> >> promos)?
> >> >
> >> >I didn't see the promos. The affirmative action chef was a short woman
> >> >with glasses. The judges were all female; Nigella Lawson, Jany Seymour,
> >> >and a hot blond Olympian. Best looking judging panel *ever* although
> >> >since they were supposed to be cooking 'all American food' is was odd to
> >> >have the judges be 2/3 metric.
> >>
> >> The promos hyped a 'special super secret important" mystery guest,
> >> accompanied by quick footage of what appeared to be Michelle Obama
> >> entering Kitchen Stadium.
> >
> >Oh. I only saw the second hour, but they had clips of (at least some
> >of) the Iron Chefs at the White House garden, greeted by MO, picking
> >produce. If she was in Kitchen Stadium, I didn't see her; she was just
> >on tape.
>
> *snicker*
> I cannot believe they actually used produce grown in the White House
> garden after questions were raised about whether the toxic sludge in
> which it was grown made it unsafe to eat!
I hadn't heard of this, but it googled right up:
http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/michelle-obamas-toxic-veggie-nightmare-
white-house-organic-gar/19114069
Mark Nobles
<0692d993-4a35-45d4...@o9g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
Ellorysgirl <nancy-...@uiowa.edu> wrote:
> Dacascos is not in a position to comment
> negatively or affirmatively on the food he is being served - he isn't
> one of the judges, he's just the host.
Why not? The Chairman built Kitchen Stadium to entertain himself with
new, never-before-tasted dishes. If anyone should be commenting on the
food, it should be him. He introduces and talks with the challenger
before each duel, so we know he speaks English with a California
accent.
> Not being able to vote, he
> shouldn't be talking about his likes and dislikes. Just like on
> "Chopped," Ted Allen doesn't really criticize any of the dishes - he
> just hosts.
But on Top Chef, Padma both hosts and judges, and argues with the other
judges sometimes.
Ubiquitous
>> *snicker*
>> I cannot believe they actually used produce grown in the White House
>> garden after questions were raised about whether the toxic sludge in
>> which it was grown made it unsafe to eat!
>
>I hadn't heard of this, but it googled right up:
I remember it being a big one-day story because Michelle claimed they were
going to eat food from that garden.
Michelle Obama's toxic veggie nightmare: White House organic garden polluted with sludge
When First Lady Michelle Obama planted an organic vegetable garden on the
White House lawn in March 2009, she hoped to both set an example of healthy
eating and to grow tasty edibles for her daughters and husband. But
Michelle's organic dream has been dashed by a nasty toxic legacy lurking in
the soils of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. It turns out that a previous
Presidential gardening team had used sewage sludge for fertilizer.
This is a fairly common practice with one huge problem. Sewage sludge tends
to be laced with anything that people pour down the drain and often contains
heavy metals. Not surprisingly, the National Park Service tested the dirt
beneath Michelle's garden and found the plot has highly elevated levels of
lead averaging 93 parts per million. That's below the 400 ppm that the
Environmental Protection Agency says is a threat to human health. But I'd
wager that Sasha, Malia and Barack won't be getting arugula or tomatoes
from this garden any time soon.
The likely source of the toxic sludge that has ruined Michelle's garden?
The Clinton White House apparently used a sludge-based product to fertilize
the lawn during the 1990s! Aside from casting a shadow on the first White
House vegetable garden since Eleanor Roosevelt resided there, the sludge
ensures that Michelle's garden will never attain organic status. Organic
certification processes strictly prohibit the use of sludge as a fertilizer
substitute.
The White House has sought to downplay the issue, and a number of experts
have pointed out that 93 ppm of sludge in soil is somewhat normal for older
urban locales. However, the EPA recommends not growing food in soil that has
100 ppm. Several major food producers, including H.J. Heinz and Del Monte,
won't accept produce grown in sludge. That's despite decades of U.S.
government efforts to encourage farmers to use solid sewage wastes in lieu
of traditional fertilizer products.
Kyle
Kaga participated in the discussions of the dishes on the original IC,
and Alton Brown contributed to the exchanges on the "Super Chefs"
battle. Even if you assume that Dacascos is somehow prohibited (in
his own kitchen stadium) from evaluating any of the dishes prepared
for him, it does not follow that he must sit there stiffly and
silently like an idiot. He could solicit opinions, make neutral
comments, etc.
Kyle
> Kyle <kylej...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > And Batali's sweet potato ravioli really did look great.
>
> This indicates something in The Next Iron Chef that I think really
> hurts the show. They force the contestants into a certain style. There
> was one contest when they went to Tokyo when the finalists were taken
> to a little Yakitori stand and ordered to make innovative, traditional
> dishes. But that isn't how Iron Chef works. If you put Morimoto in that
> position, he would make innovative, traditional yakitori dishes. Flay
> and Garces would make tamales. Battali would make ravioli. Symon would
> make a sandwich. Cora would make gumbo. Mehta would make ice cream.
> Richard Blais and Wylie Dufresne would freeze it in nitrogen and add
> gin to make cocktails. Paula Deen would fry it in butter. Emeril would
> kick it up a notch. Gordon Ramsay would make something simple,
> seasonal, local and fresh. Jean Christophe Novelli would take his
> students to a farm to catch and butcher their own birds, then cook them
> using puff pastry. Each chef has a repertoire of solid dishes that they
> vary to create their innovative dishes. Give them live squid to work
> with, they'll still make things similar to what they'd make with
> chicken.
Good line about Mehta and the ice cream!
> > I thought it was bad, a few years back, when "Breakfast" was announced
> > as a secret ingredient. No, idiots; breakfast was the end product of
> > the battle.
>
> It's not strictly according to the usual rules, but it was a legitimate
> play on the rules providing an entertaining variation. Besides, wasn't
> there a set of ingredients like eggs, bacon, ham, sausage, potatoes
> that had to go into the preparation? Not all in every dish, rather in
> the whole meal? They also recently did one with desserts, with Cat Cora
> and Paula Deen against Tyler Florence and Robert Irvine.
>
> What did you think of last year's Battle Thanksgiving using pilgrim
> ingredients duck, heritage turkey, venison, walnuts, Indian corn,
> lobster and leeks?
Was that the one where Symon and Flay teamed against Morimoto and
Cora? I thought that was okay. I was hoping in vain for a Morimoto/
Cora win even though I respect Symon.
Ellorysgirl
> for him, it does not follow that he must sit there stiffly and
> silently like an idiot. He could solicit opinions, make neutral
>
> - Show quoted text -
That's an entirely different role than filling out a judge's score
sheet. That's the point I was making. I believe Mark is doing
exactly what the producers want him to do. Don't fault him - fault
the production staff.
N.
Anim8rFSK
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
So what's the timeline? Was Iron Chef filmed before this news broke?
Ubiquitous
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
>> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> >> *snicker*
>> >> I cannot believe they actually used produce grown in the White
>> >> House garden after questions were raised about whether the toxic
>> >> sludge in which it was grown made it unsafe to eat!
>> >
>> >I hadn't heard of this, but it googled right up:
>>
>> I remember it being a big one-day story because Michelle claimed
>> they were going to eat food from that garden.
>> >>http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/michelle-obamas-toxic-veggie-nightmare-white-house-organic-gar/19114069
>
>So what's the timeline? Was Iron Chef filmed before this news broke?
I don't know, nor do I know how long it takes to film and do post-production
stuff, but the story broke in July of last year.
Anim8rFSK
web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote:
> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
> >> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> *snicker*
> >> >> I cannot believe they actually used produce grown in the White
> >> >> House garden after questions were raised about whether the toxic
> >> >> sludge in which it was grown made it unsafe to eat!
> >> >
> >> >I hadn't heard of this, but it googled right up:
> >>
> >> I remember it being a big one-day story because Michelle claimed
> >> they were going to eat food from that garden.
> >> >>http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/michelle-obamas-toxic-veggie-nightmare-
> >> >>white-house-organic-gar/19114069
> >
> >So what's the timeline? Was Iron Chef filmed before this news broke?
>
> I don't know, nor do I know how long it takes to film and do post-production
> stuff, but the story broke in July of last year.
It would be great if the story broke right after they finished eating ...
Mark Nobles
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <qdGdnRlvGpx7XdHW...@giganews.com>,
> web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote:
>
> > ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
> > > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> > >> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
> > >> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >
> > >> >> *snicker*
> > >> >> I cannot believe they actually used produce grown in the White
> > >> >> House garden after questions were raised about whether the toxic
> > >> >> sludge in which it was grown made it unsafe to eat!
> > >> >
> > >> >I hadn't heard of this, but it googled right up:
> > >>
> > >> I remember it being a big one-day story because Michelle claimed
> > >> they were going to eat food from that garden.
> > >>
> > >> >>>>http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/michelle-obamas-toxic-veggie-nightm
> > >> >>are-
> > >> >>white-house-organic-gar/19114069
> > >
> > >So what's the timeline? Was Iron Chef filmed before this news broke?
> >
> > I don't know, nor do I know how long it takes to film and do
> > post-production
> > stuff, but the story broke in July of last year.
>
> It would be great if the story broke right after they finished eating ...
"Mom, why is this salad so heavy?"
Ubiquitous
> web...@polaris.net (Ubiquitous) wrote:
>> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
>> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> >> ANIM...@cox.net wrote:
>> >> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> >> >> *snicker*
>> >> >> I cannot believe they actually used produce grown in the White
>> >> >> House garden after questions were raised about whether the
>> >> >> toxic sludge in which it was grown made it unsafe to eat!
>> >> >
>> >> >I hadn't heard of this, but it googled right up:
>> >>
>> >> I remember it being a big one-day story because Michelle claimed
>> >> they were going to eat food from that garden.
>> >>
>>http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/michelle-obamas-toxic-veggie-nightmare-whit
e-house-organic-gar/19114069
>> >
>> >So what's the timeline? Was Iron Chef filmed before this news broke?
>>
>> I don't know, nor do I know how long it takes to film and do post-production
>> stuff, but the story broke in July of last year.
>
>It would be great if the story broke right after they finished eating ...
HOLY CRAP! Once again, I am ahead of the curve. It appears there's a bit
of a scandal with this ep, PLUS, it was mentioned on Rush this afternoon.
I'll post the news in a new thread.