Redemption? (SNUK)
Enzo Matrix
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A very interesting later episode tonight. Is this the start of TtTV's
journey to redemption?
For once, Tracyluv was honest, both to Peter and to herself. She seems to be
genuinely remorseful for her actions. The problem now is that whatever she
does to resolve the situation, someone will get hurt..... This one could
run and run.
A further problem is that it may well be too late for Tracyluv. No matter
how much pathos Kate Ford injects into her performance (and tonight she was
actually quite good), it's possible that the Corrie viewing public may never
forgive her. We shall see.
It was rivetting viewing, though.
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Enzo
I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.
Alf
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>A very interesting later episode tonight. Is this the start of TtTV's
>journey to redemption?
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>For once, Tracyluv was honest, both to Peter and to herself. She seems to be
>genuinely remorseful for her actions. The problem now is that whatever she
>does to resolve the situation, someone will get hurt..... This one could
>run and run.
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Only spoiled by her later taking the money, surely?
>A further problem is that it may well be too late for Tracyluv. No matter
>how much pathos Kate Ford injects into her performance (and tonight she was
>actually quite good), it's possible that the Corrie viewing public may never
>forgive her. We shall see.
>
Forgive?
Never!
Continue to detest, loathe and generally dislike?
Always.
>It was rivetting viewing, though.
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It was interesting to see that Peter and Tracy are probably the two
best perormers on the show and together manged to turn out a darn good
scene together.
Enzo Matrix
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> Only spoiled by her later taking the money, surely?
But she took the proferred 5 Grand instead of holding out for 10.
Alf
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>> Only spoiled by her later taking the money, surely?
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>But she took the proferred 5 Grand instead of holding out for 10.
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Ah, true. Must admit to evidencing similar signs of remorse myself
once when accepting a 1.6% pay increase - instead of the 5.2% we'd
asked for - after losing five weeks earnings by strike action.....
John Dean
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>> Only spoiled by her later taking the money, surely?
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> But she took the proferred 5 Grand instead of holding out for 10.
Ooh - that's just like the story of the bloke who offered a woman 20 quid
for sex and she slapped his face and he said 'would you have sex with me for
a million quid?' and she said 'I'd certainly think about it' and he offered
her 30 quid for sex and she slapped his face and said 'what kind of woman do
you think I am?' and he said 'we've just established that, now we're
haggling'.
I mean, really Enz. A woman accepts 5 grand (on top of the 4,987.95 and a
bus ticket and a Happy Meal Voucher she's already collected) from a man
who's desperate for a baby knowing that, not only is the baby nothing to do
with him but he's never (contrary to his belief) had sex with her, and you
think she's a reformed character because she didn't stick out for 10 grand?
(Bearing in mind she still expects a further 20 grand under the original
agreement)
She's committing fraud, she's leading on a sad and vulnerable couple, she's
deceiving the child's father, she's pissing all over the Mother whose dying
boyfriend saved her life with a kidney and you think there's something to
*admire* here?
As for the ''acting'', just replay the bit where Kate reads the autocue as
'Wally the dirty, fingered gardener' instead of 'Wally, the dirty-fingered
gardener' that the script writer intended. And fast forward the scene to get
the full majesty of her only two expressions - showing teeth / not showing
teeth.
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John Dean
Oxford
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MartinS
Like when Toronto high school teachers spent much of the winter of
1975/76 (IIRC) freezing their butts off on picket lines, to get none of
their demands met at the end of it.
Apparently this was when Mike Myers got the inspiration for "Wayne's
World" - sitting around the basement with nothing to do.
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Martin S.
MartinS
It's to bad we haven't got Blanche throwing in her two penn'orth.
Anybody heard about the state of Maggie Jones' health?
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Martin S.
George Middleton
<john...@frag.lineone.net> writes
>As for the ''acting'', just replay the bit where Kate reads the autocue
>as 'Wally the dirty, fingered gardener' instead of 'Wally, the
>dirty-fingered gardener' that the script writer intended. And fast
>forward the scene to get the full majesty of her only two expressions -
>showing teeth / not showing
>teeth.
That's one expression more than Fizz can manage.
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George
Alf
Now be fair, Fizz has many expressions, admittedly all dependant on
the tightness of her hair grip but even so......
Renee
"John Dean" <john...@frag.lineone.net> wrote in message
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> As for the ''acting'', just replay the bit where Kate reads the autocue as
> 'Wally the dirty, fingered gardener' instead of 'Wally, the dirty-fingered
> gardener' that the script writer intended. And fast forward the scene to
get
> the full majesty of her only two expressions - showing teeth / not showing
> teeth.
Fair's fair - for an RSC actress who is classically trained and more used to
playing roles like Jocasta or Lady Macbeth, Kate Ford is not doing a bad
job. And she's also on better terms than she was with the rest of the cast.
Apparently, when she first arrived, the air in the Green Room was blue with
profanities, so affronted were the rest of the cast at this young lady's
demeanour. She's now a firm favourite, or so my informants tell me, and even
Babs Knox has warmed to her. Apparently they even dine together some
evenings - at the Spud-u-Like near the studios, it seems, or at the local
carvery, where Babs Knox can be seen with a big sausage in cider most
weekends. We don't see enough of Babs these days: her little dialogues with
Norris are sometimes hysterical, and should be highlighted much more than
they are. For a woman in her seventies, her comic timing is still
immaculate. Gone are her 'tough cookie' days, when she was known to all and
sundry as "Hard Knox". Anyway, I can't stay here chatting, I've got
foreskins to clean under.
your friend,
Renee
Enzo Matrix
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> She's committing fraud, she's leading on a sad and vulnerable couple,
she's
> deceiving the child's father, she's pissing all over the Mother whose
dying
> boyfriend saved her life with a kidney and you think there's something to
> *admire* here?
Not exactly... I just think it is a slight softening of her previously
hardline attitude and could indicate he first faltering steps towards
redemption.
However, I must admit that I fully expect the Toxic Velociraptor to be back
on Wednesday.
MartinS
> "John Dean" <john...@frag.lineone.net> wrote...
I thought she called herself Babs Mullaney in those days.
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Martin S.
Gulf Coast
it was 76/77, or even 77/78; definitely remember the '79 strike as those of
us looking at not graduating refused to honour the picket line nor support
the teachers, even tho' we generally spent most of our time smoking on the
grass in front of the principal's office when school was in session *g*
> Apparently this was when Mike Myers got the inspiration for "Wayne's
> World" - sitting around the basement with nothing to do.
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*shudder* I remember hanging out in basements just like that! LOL!
Sue
MartinS
> MartinS
>> Alf <on...@thisng.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
>>> Ah, true. Must admit to evidencing similar signs of remorse myself
>>> once when accepting a 1.6% pay increase - instead of the 5.2%
>>> we'd asked for - after losing five weeks earnings by strike
>>> action.....
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>> Like when Toronto high school teachers spent much of the winter of
>> 1975/76 (IIRC) freezing their butts off on picket lines, to get
>> none of their demands met at the end of it.
>>
> Hmmm....75/76 I was in junior high and there was no strike that
> year. Think it was 76/77, or even 77/78; definitely remember the '79
> strike as those of us looking at not graduating refused to honour
> the picket line nor support the teachers, even tho' we generally
> spent most of our time smoking on the grass in front of the
> principal's office when school was in session *g*
>
>> Apparently this was when Mike Myers got the inspiration for
>> "Wayne's World" - sitting around the basement with nothing to do.
>>
> *shudder* I remember hanging out in basements just like that! LOL!
It could have been any of those years. From 1973 to 1978 we lived very
close to Northern Secondary. The year of the strike I was taking a
woodwork evening class, which had to be extended into April or May.
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Martin S.
Alf
>>> Apparently this was when Mike Myers got the inspiration for
>>> "Wayne's World" - sitting around the basement with nothing to do.
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>> *shudder* I remember hanging out in basements just like that! LOL!
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>It could have been any of those years. From 1973 to 1978 we lived very
>close to Northern Secondary. The year of the strike I was taking a
>woodwork evening class, which had to be extended into April or May.
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reached that far.
Gordon Davie
> Now be fair, Fizz has many expressions, admittedly all dependant on
> the tightness of her hair grip but even so......
Though most of them resemble a well-skelped arse.
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Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland
"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God"
Ophelia
"Gordon Davie" <g.d...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Alf wrote:
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> > Now be fair, Fizz has many expressions, admittedly all dependant on
> > the tightness of her hair grip but even so......
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> Though most of them resemble a well-skelped arse
LOL yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:))
John Watson 102
> Now be fair, Fizz has many expressions, admittedly all dependant on
>> > the tightness of her hair grip but even so......
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>> Though most of them resemble a well-skelped arse
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>LOL yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh:))
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I think she is great and one of the real characters in the show. Why do you
have to judge people by their looks? We can not all be works of art!!! :-)
Peter Dewhirst
>>That's one expression more than Fizz can manage.
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>Now be fair, Fizz has many expressions, admittedly all dependant on
>the tightness of her hair grip but even so......
I've seen that hair style described as a council house facelift.
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Dewey
Eccles, Manchester
Ophelia
"Peter Dewhirst" <de...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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I have never heard of that one. Can you explain it?
O
George Middleton
102 <johnwa...@aol.com> writes
We only judge their *looks* by their looks. Fizz may well have a great
actor but she still has a mouth like p**s holes in the snow.
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George
John Rimmer
<de...@ntlworld.com> writes
Around this way it's called a Croydon facelift.
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John Rimmer
Gordon Davie
I never said she wasn't! I admit I hated the character when she first
appeared (when Roy and Hayley were fostering her, and she accused Roy of
touching her up) but since her return she has as you say developed into a
great character - her and Kirk have some wonderful scenes together.
You should know by now not to take anything I say too seriously, John! (But
at least it was on topic!)
Gordon Davie
Or a burst sofa?
Enzo Matrix
> I never said she wasn't! I admit I hated the character when she first
> appeared (when Roy and Hayley were fostering her, and she accused Roy of
> touching her up) but since her return she has as you say developed into a
> great character - her and Kirk have some wonderful scenes together.
Er... yeh! Wot he said!
The odd thing was, at the Halloween party, most of the women were done up as
cartoon-style witches. Fiz was also supposed to be a witch, but she simply
looked like a gothgirl on a night out. It was quite a change for her and she
looked quite good (for a gothgirl!)
Theresa Wojtasiewicz
> MartinS
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>>Like when Toronto high school teachers spent much of the winter of
>>1975/76 (IIRC) freezing their butts off on picket lines, to get none of
>>their demands met at the end of it.
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> Hmmm....75/76 I was in junior high and there was no strike that year. Think
> it was 76/77, or even 77/78; definitely remember the '79 strike as those of
> us looking at not graduating refused to honour the picket line nor support
> the teachers, even tho' we generally spent most of our time smoking on the
> grass in front of the principal's office when school was in session *g*
Coming seriously late upon this message, I can tell
you that it was indeed 75/76, because I was in my last
year of high school, graduated in 1976, and I was
really bummed about missing school and there not being
a musical put on that year because of the time lost
(yes, I *liked* school. Sue me!)
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>>Apparently this was when Mike Myers got the inspiration for "Wayne's
>>World" - sitting around the basement with nothing to do.
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> *shudder* I remember hanging out in basements just like that! LOL!
We never had a basement that was fit to hang out in,
alas....