Y&R: Daisy speculation...
Tony Cianfaglione
A speculation spoiler below....
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Is Daisy Ryder's sister?
She sure looks like Ryder wearing a wig; same rough facial features.
Is that the voice that Ryder heard?
Is she the missing person in the torn photo?
So many questions, so little time.
Enquiring minds want to know!
Diva
Daisy, Daisy
Give us your answer true.
That bitch that is Ryder's mother
Is she your mother too?
Diva
Dave
"Tony Cianfaglione" <ab...@chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
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I never thought about any ties to Ryder (interesting thought though).
However, yesterday as I watched her kiss Lauren's ass for the sales job I
was thinking she will be ripping her off in no time. No doubt she will be a
bad influence on Abby.
Dave - Toronto
Terry Pulliam Burd
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>However, yesterday as I watched her kiss Lauren's ass for the sales job I
>was thinking she will be ripping her off in no time. No doubt she will be a
>bad influence on Abby.
And why, pray tell, did she brush off Amber when Amber volunteered to
take her to Fenmore's and introduce her to Lauren? I smell a very
large rat - like Daisy is a pathological liar or, as you speculate, a
thief in waiting? I immediately thought of Eddie Haskell.
(And if you're not old enough to remember "Leave it to Beaver," I
ain't 'splainin' it, Loosey.)
Terry Pulliam Burd
--
"And what manner of jackassery must we put up with today?" Danae
in "Non Sequitur"
To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"
Dave
"Terry Pulliam Burd" <ntpu...@meatloaf.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:59:42 -0500, "Dave" <nomore...@infinity.net>
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>>However, yesterday as I watched her kiss Lauren's ass for the sales job I
>>was thinking she will be ripping her off in no time. No doubt she will be
>>a
>>bad influence on Abby.
>
> And why, pray tell, did she brush off Amber when Amber volunteered to
> take her to Fenmore's and introduce her to Lauren? I smell a very
> large rat - like Daisy is a pathological liar or, as you speculate, a
> thief in waiting? I immediately thought of Eddie Haskell.
Eddie Haskell was my hero. He always had a funny response for everything
that was thrown at him. I long thought he wanted a little wiggi-wiggi with
Mrs. Clever.
> (And if you're not old enough to remember "Leave it to Beaver," I ain't
> 'splainin' it, Loosey.)
I never got into Lucy that much from that era of TV (I'm 41 but remember
most of the older shows on re-runs when I was a child). I much preferred
The Honeymooners or Andy Griffith (or Leave It To Beaver).
Dave - Toronto
record hunter
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 19:59:42 -0500, "Dave" <nomorecroc...@infinity.net>
> fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
> >However, yesterday as I watched her kiss Lauren's ass for the sales job I
> >was thinking she will be ripping her off in no time. No doubt she will be a
> >bad influence on Abby.
>
> And why, pray tell, did she brush off Amber when Amber volunteered to
> take her to Fenmore's and introduce her to Lauren? I smell a very
> large rat - like Daisy is a pathological liar or, as you speculate, a
> thief in waiting? I immediately thought of Eddie Haskell.
Yeah. What was up with that? My head zigged after they'd set me up to
zag, and not in a good way.
Cheri
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I'm thinking Mark was right, and Ryder's mother will turn out to be Sheila
and Daisy will turn out to be the daughter (Sheila did supposedly have a
daughter with Massimo Marone on B&B) I think that's why she was so trying to
get the job and that she knows exactly who Lauren is. I hope not, but I
think so.
Cheri
Niki
> I'm thinking Mark was right, and Ryder's mother will turn out to be
> Sheila and Daisy will turn out to be the daughter (Sheila did supposedly
> have a daughter with Massimo Marone on B&B) I think that's why she was
> so trying to get the job and that she knows exactly who Lauren is. I
> hope not, but I think so.
UGH I so hope this is NOT the case. I don't want to see this nor more of
anything Sheila. She's ran her course along with her evilness. IMHO
--
Niki
Shirl
> UGH I so hope this is NOT the case. I don't want to see this nor more of
> anything Sheila. She's ran her course along with her evilness. IMHO
I don't get how you can think characters like Ryan or Brad have run
their course, but still see fit to keep bringing back Sheila, with
each return being even more preposterously unbelievable than the last.
Shirl
Cheri
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?
Cheri
Niki
I never said anything about Ryan or Brad. Reread my post. I do NOT want
to see anymore of Sheila. Ever.
--
Niki
Niki
That was my thought too.
--
Niki
Jaie
Niki, I don't think Shirl was directing the comment at you in
particular when she said "you"--she likely meant Y&R, as in how can
Y&R think Ryan and Brad have no storylines left in them, but that
Sheila should be resuscitated endlessly.
Speaking of Ryan, it was nice to hear him brought up on today's
show.
And while I'm on the increasingly rare subject of things I liked about
the show, I should also mention that
* I liked the scenes between Jill and Katherine today (very
touching),
* I liked Lily's jacket,
* I liked that Neil acknowledged how much time he WASTED at Newman,
* I LOVED that AT NO TIME did any Fishwin, Deacon, Amber or Abby make
an appearance.
* I LOVED that I didn't have to hear any hypocrites slamming Billy
for making the Newmans feel bad about Victor's evil deeds.
I was, however, APPALLED that Katherine was talking about an IPO in
this market . . . it's idiotic, but then I'm not a GC business genius.
Shirl
> I don't get how you can think characters like Ryan or Brad have run
> their course, but still see fit to keep bringing back Sheila, with
> each return being even more preposterously unbelievable than the last.
Cheri:
> ?
Niki:
> That was my thought too.
LOL. I was referring to TPTB!
Ryan was written out because his character had "run its course" -- no
more interesting story to tell for him. He was about to re-marry
Victoria, but there was no more interesting story for him? Brad had
been on the canvas for decades...then suddenly there was nothing left
to do with him but KILL him off?
But *SHEILA* still has more "interesting" story to be told even after
the ridiculous return scenarios and send-offs we've seen to date?
Isn't ONE psycho, far-fetched complete make-over at a time (Patty)
enough?
Shirl
Shirl
> > I don't get how you can think characters like Ryan or Brad have run
> > their course, but still see fit to keep bringing back Sheila, with
> > each return being even more preposterously unbelievable than the last.
>
> I never said anything about Ryan or Brad. Reread my post. I do NOT want
> to see anymore of Sheila. Ever.
I know, Niki. When I said "you" I was referring to TPTB, not to *you*
personally.
Shirl
Shirl
> Niki, I don't think Shirl was directing the comment at you in
> particular when she said "you"--she likely meant Y&R, as in how can
> Y&R think Ryan and Brad have no storylines left in them, but that
> Sheila should be resuscitated endlessly.
Thank you. That's precisely what I meant.
> I was, however, APPALLED that Katherine was talking about an IPO in
> this market . . . it's idiotic, but then I'm not a GC business genius.
Speaking of which ... in connection with the other discussion re
education, what's Katherine's?
Shirl
Cheri
> Speaking of which ... in connection with the other discussion re
> education, what's Katherine's?
>
> Shirl
The School of Hard Knocks. :-)
Cheri
Niki
> On Nov 5, 12:05 am, Niki <nikib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Niki:
>> I never said anything about Ryan or Brad. Reread my post. I do NOT want
>> to see anymore of Sheila. Ever.
> Niki, I don't think Shirl was directing the comment at you in
> particular when she said "you"--she likely meant Y&R, as in how can
> Y&R think Ryan and Brad have no storylines left in them, but that
> Sheila should be resuscitated endlessly.
I don't want to see Sheila anything anymore.
--
Niki
Niki
> Ryan was written out because his character had "run its course"
I have to disagree with this only because "run its course" to says the
writers are out of ideas.
--
Niki
Niki
Thanks Shirl. I appreciate that.
--
Niki
Niki
> Speaking of which ... in connection with the other discussion re
> education, what's Katherine's?
Good question. I didn't think about this til just now. I love Kay but
she reminds me of Marge Schott, a lot. Nothing wrong with inheriting
hubby's business and taking over, just so long as you have a clue as to
what you're doing. I suppose with those millions going on, you learn
quickly.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marge_Schott
--
Niki
record hunter
Ever again.
Niki
> Ever again.
Amen.
--
Niki
Jaie
> Jaie:
>
> > Niki, I don't think Shirl was directing the comment at you in
> > particular when she said "you"--she likely meant Y&R, as in how can
> > Y&R think Ryan and Brad have no storylines left in them, but that
> > Sheila should be resuscitated endlessly.
>
> Thank you. That's precisely what I meant.
You're welcome. I've probably just been reading your posts too
long . . . I recognized the rhetorical pattern instantly. : )
> > I was, however, APPALLED that Katherine was talking about an IPO in
> > this market . . . it's idiotic, but then I'm not a GC business genius.
>
> Speaking of which ... in connection with the other discussion re
> education, what's Katherine's?
I have no idea. Same goes for John Abbott. I would assume they're
both educated at least through college because they come from money,
but they were before my time . . . Does anyone know what age bracket
John and Katherine were in when they started on the show?
And speaking of things that appall me, WHAT THE HELL is up with Jill
dashing to the hospital just because her "son" Cain "needed her" even
though Jill made exactly ZERO appearances at the hospital when Billy,
her ACTUAL son, was standing vigil at the deathbed of his beloved
niece? I know Jill has always been a bit self-centered and arguably
indifferent toward Billy, but the two events are so close in time that
her favoritism is GLARING, FLAGRANT and EGREGIOUS. Now I'm annoyed
with myself for being moved by her scenes with Katherine from the
other day.
Terry Pulliam Burd
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>
>"Terry Pulliam Burd" <ntpu...@meatloaf.net> wrote in message
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>> (And if you're not old enough to remember "Leave it to Beaver," I ain't
>> 'splainin' it, Loosey.)
>
>I never got into Lucy that much from that era of TV (I'm 41 but remember
>most of the older shows on re-runs when I was a child). I much preferred
>The Honeymooners or Andy Griffith (or Leave It To Beaver).
On that subject, my boss and I regularly have lunch at an Italian
restaurant in Newport Beach, small place that has a TV tucked into the
corner of the bar. Our Host, Dominoco, always has "I Love Lucy" reruns
on when we have lunch there. We got to know him well enough to finally
tease him about his addiction to Loosey and Ricky. He said "I Love
Lucy" and some of the shows you mention above helped him learn
English. Nice guy.
Terry "Squeaks" Pulliam Burd
--
"If the soup had been as hot as the claret, if the claret had been as
old as the bird, and if the bird's breasts had been as full as the
waitress's, it would have been a very good dinner."
- Duncan Hines
MarkH
connected to Phyllis. In my head, she's the love child that Jack and
(Sandra Nelson's) Phyllis conceived just before Phyl left town.
Broke and feeling like a bad mother (she'd just lost Daniel to Danny),
I could see Phyllis impetuously giving the baby away or even selling
it.
We'll see.
But then the previews showed shorter, curlier hair for Phyl...so maybe
they're trying to downplay any resemblance.
Cheri
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> With that long red hair, I'm just thinking Daisy is going to be
> connected to Phyllis. In my head, she's the love child that Jack and
> (Sandra Nelson's) Phyllis conceived just before Phyl left town.
>
> Broke and feeling like a bad mother (she'd just lost Daniel to Danny),
> I could see Phyllis impetuously giving the baby away or even selling
> it.
Absolutely not IMO. There is nothing in Phylliss' make up that would ever
suggest giving a baby away or selling it. Of course, they could change
history, but it wouldn't be plausible to me.
Cheri
Jaie
> "MarkH" <markhs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Could be her younger sister. Phyllis is on bad terms with her
parents, so who knows if she even knows she has one.
Cheri
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========
That could be a definite twist.
Cheri
Dave
away from Abby was a put on for Lauren?? I think Tony could be onto
something with the possible connection between the two (brother and sister
probably).
Dave - Toronto
Cheri
I think so too.
Cheri
@gmail.com zob
yeah, well, it was obviously put on for *some* reason! Daisy knows
full well that it was Abby flirting with Ryder and not the other way
around.
I was wondering if Deacon Sharpe is pulling Daisy's strings and is
setting Ryder up to go back to jail. Last time we saw Deacon and
Ryder together Ryder was threatening Deacon, and I don't think he
liked that too much.
---
zob
Jaie
Daisy does have red hair . . . and so does Lauren . . . and there
apparently is a plot afoot to hurt "the Baldwins" (Michael, Lauren and
Fenn are the only "Baldwins"), so perhaps Daisy is connected to Lauren
somehow.
Cheri
===========
I think she will turn out to be Sheilas' daughter. I absolutely hope Sheila
is nowhere in the future, but I think she will be.
Cheri
@gmail.com zob
wrote:
My guess? She is Sheila Carter's daughter by Massimo Maroni, making
her Ryder's half sister -- and making Sheila the woman that even tough
guy Deacon Sharpe is terrified of. That's why Ryde said his mother
wants him and Deacon to bring down the Baldwins next ... Sheila's long
standing hatred for Lauren.
---
zob
record hunter
> "Jaie" <jaie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Especially if whoever it is is after Lauren.
record hunter
> On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:45:47 -0800 (PST), Jaie <jaie...@gmail.com>
Pleaseletthisbearedherring
Pleaseletthisbearedherring
Pleaseletthisbearedherring
Pleaseletthisbearedherring
Pleaseletthisbearedherring
Pleaseletthisbearedherring
@gmail.com zob
wrote:
>"Jaie" <jai...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>On Nov 11, 7:00 pm, "Dave" <nomorecroc...@infinity.net> wrote:
>> Anyone else get the feeling that Daisy's confrontation with Ryder to stay
>> away from Abby was a put on for Lauren?? I think Tony could be onto
>> something with the possible connection between the two (brother and sister
>> probably).
>>
>> Dave - Toronto
>
>Daisy does have red hair . . . and so does Lauren . . . and there
>apparently is a plot afoot to hurt "the Baldwins" (Michael, Lauren and
>Fenn are the only "Baldwins"), so perhaps Daisy is connected to Lauren
>somehow.
>
>===========
>
>I think she will turn out to be Sheilas' daughter.
>Cheri
>
LOL, great minds think alike. I just posted the same thing a few
minutes ago! And I actually thought of you when I posted it because I
know how much you would hate to see Sheila resurrected again.
---
zob
Niki
> On Nov 13, 10:02 am, zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:
>> My guess? She is Sheila Carter's daughter by Massimo Maroni, making
>> her Ryder's half sister -- and making Sheila the woman that even tough
>> guy Deacon Sharpe is terrified of. That's why Ryde said his mother
>> wants him and Deacon to bring down the Baldwins next ... Sheila's long
>> standing hatred for Lauren.
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
Yes. If Sheila comes back, I'm turning off. There is no medication
strong enough for Sheila redux.
--
Niki
Cheri
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Me too, at least until she's gone.
Cheri
Tony Cianfaglione
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Cheri wrote:
> "Niki" <niki...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> Yes. If Sheila comes back, I'm turning off. There is no medication strong
>> enough for Sheila redux.
>
> Me too, at least until she's gone.
Be afraid! Be very, very afraid! Especially after Friday's US show
and the dropped binoculars. It doesn't look good, folks.
@gmail.com zob
wrote:
Hey, you can FF through her scenes just as easily as I've been FF'ing
through every Lily/Cane scene for months now. :-�
---
zob
Jaie
>
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
> Pleaseletthisbearedherring
The red hairing has us all very nervous.
The red hairing has us all very nervous.
The red hairing has us all very nervous.
The red hairing has us all very nervous.
The red hairing has us all very nervous.
The red hairing has us all very nervous.
Jaie
Does anyone remember if Sheila slept with Tom when they were in
cahoots? That could make Ryder and Daisy the SORASed off-screen
offspring of Tom and Sheila. I'm feeling a deal-breaker moment
coming on.
@gmail.com zob
wrote:
>On Nov 13, 7:01�pm, Niki <nikib...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, they did. I mentioned the same thing a few months ago, actually,
when Ryder first showed up in GC. Others said he was way to old to
be the spawn of Tom & Sheila, but that never stopped the SORASsing
writers before.
---
zob
record hunter
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009 19:53:26 -0800 (PST), Jaie <jaie...@gmail.com>
Unless they were born two years ago, Ryder and Daisy *shouldn't* be
Tom and Sheila's kids. (I say *shouldn't* instead of *can't*, because
with the Terrible Three, who knows?) The thing is, there was never a
moment when Sheila and Tom behaved like people who knew each other,
even when they were alone. It would be truly retarded of them to
expect us to accept that level of retcon, but you never know.
Lindy
>The thing is, there was never a
> moment when Sheila and Tom behaved like people who knew each other,
> even when they were alone. It would be truly retarded of them to
> expect us to accept that level of retcon, but you never know.
Were they on the show together at the same time? I don't remember this.
~Lindy~
Cheri
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Yes, they were meeting in a seedy motel room.
Cheri
Niki
> "Niki" <niki...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> Yes. If Sheila comes back, I'm turning off. There is no medication
>> strong enough for Sheila redux.
> Me too, at least until she's gone.
Please tell me that TPTB are NOT thinking of bringing her back
seriously. UGH [insert bad language here]
If they want to bring back old characters, there's a slew of them. My
fist one is Larry!!
--
Niki
Niki
> Be afraid! Be very, very afraid! Especially after Friday's US show
> and the dropped binoculars. It doesn't look good, folks.
Oh CRAP. I'm not going to watch Sheila redux again.
--
Niki
record hunter
> "Lindy" <slunchersun...@comcast.net> wrote in message
The walls to which are currently used as Cane's LR.
record hunter
Just push "off."
Tony Cianfaglione
On Sat, 14 Nov 2009, Niki wrote:
> My fist one is Larry!!
They mellowed Larry before he left so he doesn't make fists anymore.
Tony ;-)
Dave
"Niki" <niki...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> If they want to bring back old characters, there's a slew of them. My fist
> one is Larry!!
I'd be cool with Larry coming back. However, I'd really like to see Bobby
Marsino back (sans Brittany of course).
Dave - Toronto
Jaie
> "Niki" <nikib...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > If they want to bring back old characters, there's a slew of them. My fist
> > one is Larry!!
>
> I'd be cool with Larry coming back. However, I'd really like to see Bobby
> Marsino back (sans Brittany of course).
I'd like Tricia back -- with FigMatt played by Rick Hearst.
Cheri
============
He's busy on B&B.
Cheri
Niki
> Just push "off."
I will. :)
--
Niki
Niki
Touche!
--
Niki
Niki
I'd go for Bobby too. Some villains are better than others. Larry rocks,
Bobby rocks. Go away Adam and Patty.
--
Niki
MarkH
- Sheila had a daughter (Mary) with Dr. James Warwick. The daughter
resurfaced on B&B about a decade ago and she was in her late teens.
Sheila renamed the girl "Erica" (after her sudden "love of her life",
Eric).
- Sheila had a daughter (Diana) with Massimo Marone. We only saw the
child as an infant, within the last decade. Sheila claimed the child
was Massimo's and that the child was named "Diana". I suppose these
could have been lies...that she really had a boy but pretended it was
a girl so that they'd be harder to track after their escape from the
jungle (that's where all this went down). If that's the case, I'd
predict that Ryder is the child we formerly knew as Diana.
Daisy is clearly younger than Ryder. So, if I'm right about Ryder
being a Marone (i.e., Diana), then Daisy could well be Terrible
Tom's..because they had sex.
Now...work with me here. What about Ryder's blood test, where he was
revealed to be Tom's? Well, Cane passed the DNA test because he
substituted P3's blood. And Sheila has a long history of mixing up
test results to get the DNA results she wants. So, Daisy could easily
be Kevin's REAL sister, and the source of Ryder's blood.
==
But I stil think the LONG strawberry blonde hair on Daisy is a clue
(i.e., that she is Phyllis' daughter). My working hypothesis is that
before Phyllis left town (distraught over losing Daniel, no job, no
money, Jack using her for sex) she got pregnant. While off canvas
(after Sandra Nelson was fired) I imagine that Phyllis felt unwworthy
to be a mother after what happened with Daniel. Also, with no job/man/
money, she didn't think she could do the child justice. So she gave
it away.
In that scenario, Daisy is Phyllis'. Who adopted her? And why is she
back? And how does she connect with Ryder and Lauren?
===
There is no way Ryder can be Tom and Sheila's child. SORASing is
fine, but this really just happened in 2005. They can't add 20 years
in 3 years...
So, if Ryder really is Tom's, then mom can't be Sheila. She COULD be
Lorie Brooks or Diane Jenkins or Mari Jo Mason or any other villainess
from the past. But none of those women would have murderous grudges
against Lauren and Amber like Sheila would.
===
I'm so confused.
Shirl
> But I stil think the LONG strawberry blonde hair on Daisy is a clue
> (i.e., that she is Phyllis' daughter). My working hypothesis is that
> before Phyllis left town (distraught over losing Daniel, no job, no
> money, Jack using her for sex) she got pregnant. While off canvas
> (after Sandra Nelson was fired) I imagine that Phyllis felt unwworthy
> to be a mother after what happened with Daniel. Also, with no job/man/
> money, she didn't think she could do the child justice. So she gave
> it away.
??
Say what you want about Phyllis (most of the bad stuff is true), but
she was DEVASTATED by having Daniel taken away from her! She had been
shown NUMEROUS times in pain/hurting when experiencing that emptiness.
If she had gotten pregnant again after having Daniel taken away, IMO
there is NO WAY she would "give it away" -- NO WAY. And no matter
what, she has been dedicated to Summer, too. NO WAY she would have
given a child away.
NO.WAY!
Of course that doesn't mean THIS GROUP wouldn't write it that way.
Prior history and knowledge of a character is CLEARLY not considered
when writing new story, EVEN when they are reaching back in history to
pull something out that WE saw but THEY didn't! GRRR.
> There is no way Ryder can be Tom and Sheila's child. SORASing is
> fine, but this really just happened in 2005. They can't add 20 years
> in 3 years...
ITA, but "can't" isn't in this group's vocabulary, Mark.
> So, if Ryder really is Tom's, then mom can't be Sheila. She COULD be
> Lorie Brooks or Diane Jenkins or Mari Jo Mason or any other villainess
> from the past. But none of those women would have murderous grudges
> against Lauren and Amber like Sheila would.
>
> ===
>
> I'm so confused.
It is way, WAY too intertwined and intermingled to be compelling. Add
to that all the mistrust when it comes to DNA tests and shoddy
investigative work -- stuff that can AND HAS been undone and turned
around in the blink of an eye by just claiming that so-and-so switched
the tests or "there was a mix-up at the lab" (HOW convenient!) -- and
there's simply NO WAY to follow it or invest in it enough for it to be
compelling drama. I tell ya, it's REALLY no better than a couple of
first graders playing "pretend" and changing the story every few
minutes: "No wait... I'm not really a stripper, I'm really a decision-
making Board Member of a giant corporation, and I'm not really your ex-
wife, that was just a hysterical marriage."
Arrrrgh.
Shirl
Jaie
> MarkH:
>
> > But I stil think the LONG strawberry blonde hair on Daisy is a clue
> > (i.e., that she is Phyllis' daughter). My working hypothesis is that
> > before Phyllis left town (distraught over losing Daniel, no job, no
> > money, Jack using her for sex) she got pregnant. While off canvas
> > (after Sandra Nelson was fired) I imagine that Phyllis felt unwworthy
> > to be a mother after what happened with Daniel. Also, with no job/man/
> > money, she didn't think she could do the child justice. So she gave
> > it away.
>
> ??
> Say what you want about Phyllis (most of the bad stuff is true), but
> she was DEVASTATED by having Daniel taken away from her! She had been
> shown NUMEROUS times in pain/hurting when experiencing that emptiness.
> If she had gotten pregnant again after having Daniel taken away, IMO
> there is NO WAY she would "give it away" -- NO WAY. And no matter
> what, she has been dedicated to Summer, too. NO WAY she would have
> given a child away.
WSS. I have to agree. PLUS, considering that, after returning to GC,
Phyllis spent some time trying to have Jack's baby -- and then trying
to save her marriage to Jack from Diane who had had his baby -- it
would seem a little odd for her to have kept the secret that she had
already had his baby. At that point, she would have hired Paul to
track down her child and recover custody, etc., etc.
> > There is no way Ryder can be Tom and Sheila's child. SORASing is
> > fine, but this really just happened in 2005. They can't add 20 years
> > in 3 years...
Yeah, it happened only a couple of years ago, but I think that as long
as the age of the child makes sense with the age of the parent,
SORASing is just one of those necessary evils. My big objection is to
Sheila being EVER brought back into the picture.
"No wait... I'm not really a stripper, I'm really a decision-
> making Board Member of a giant corporation, and I'm not really your ex-
> wife, that was just a hysterical marriage."
To be fair to Nikki, more than 20 years had passed between her
stripper days and her corporate days.
Jaie
> "Jaie" <jaie...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> I'd like Tricia back -- with FigMatt played by Rick Hearst.
>
> ============
>
> He's busy on B&B.
Does he do much there? How hard would it be to do both?
Shirl
> "No wait... I'm not really a stripper, I'm really a decision-
> making Board Member of a giant corporation, and I'm not
Jaie:
> To be fair to Nikki, more than 20 years had passed between her
> stripper days and her corporate days.
That quote wasn't necessarily supposed to be factual, just an example
of the last few groups of writers seem to change the scenario in much
the same, instantaneous way that kids do when playing "pretend"...with
little or no buy-able explanation.
That said, the mere passage of time doesn't equal qualifications that
hold up a story, IMO.
But, in all fairness, she *did* have at least ONE couch-top, laptop
computer lesson from Brad. That and her signed check for $35M would
probably be qualifications-enough for most corporations.
Shirl (but IMO, the "hysterical" element applies to more than just
Ashley's storyline! ... they couldn't have chosen a more appropo
label!)
Jaie
> Shirl:
>
> > "No wait... I'm not really a stripper, I'm really a decision-
> > making Board Member of a giant corporation, and I'm not
> > really your ex-wife, that was just a hysterical marriage."
>
> Jaie:
>
> > To be fair to Nikki, more than 20 years had passed between her
> > stripper days and her corporate days.
>
> That quote wasn't necessarily supposed to be factual, just an example
> of the last few groups of writers seem to change the scenario in much
> the same, instantaneous way that kids do when playing "pretend"...with
> little or no buy-able explanation.
Yeah, I knew you were just being hyperbolic.
> That said, the mere passage of time doesn't equal qualifications that
> hold up a story, IMO.
It doesn't. But since the only other things she had to do for 20
years was flower fluff, play piano, chat with Katherine and meddle in
her children's lives, that still left plenty of time for that to study
business off-camera. She probably even wore her studious-looking
glasses.
> But, in all fairness, she *did* have at least ONE couch-top, laptop
> computer lesson from Brad. That and her signed check for $35M would
> probably be qualifications-enough for most corporations.
Shirl, if some former stripper with just a HS diploma wants to hand me
$35 million, she can be CEO, President, Queen, Empress, Czar and Most
High Priestess Ever of my company. I'll even throw in a free laptop
and horn-rimmed glasses AND a gavel. : )
@gmail.com zob
LOL!
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zob
Cheri
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MarkH:
> But I stil think the LONG strawberry blonde hair on Daisy is a clue
> (i.e., that she is Phyllis' daughter). My working hypothesis is that
> before Phyllis left town (distraught over losing Daniel, no job, no
> money, Jack using her for sex) she got pregnant. While off canvas
> (after Sandra Nelson was fired) I imagine that Phyllis felt unwworthy
> to be a mother after what happened with Daniel. Also, with no job/man/
> money, she didn't think she could do the child justice. So she gave
> it away.
??
Say what you want about Phyllis (most of the bad stuff is true), but
she was DEVASTATED by having Daniel taken away from her! She had been
shown NUMEROUS times in pain/hurting when experiencing that emptiness.
If she had gotten pregnant again after having Daniel taken away, IMO
there is NO WAY she would "give it away" -- NO WAY. And no matter
what, she has been dedicated to Summer, too. NO WAY she would have
given a child away.
NO.WAY!
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Absolutlely no way!!! She is many things, but a bad mother is not one of
them.
Cheri
Cheri
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And she spent at least 3 or 4 days with Brad on the computer, before
becoming a corporate executive. LOL
Cheri
Bunny
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Nice one.