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Dave

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Apr 20, 2013, 11:53:28 AM4/20/13
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Wake n' bake!!!

Dave - Toronto

Frosty

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Apr 20, 2013, 1:11:28 PM4/20/13
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On 4/20/2013 10:53 AM, Dave wrote:
> Wake n' bake!!!
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> Dave - Toronto

:)

Lynn Kelly

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Apr 20, 2013, 2:18:48 PM4/20/13
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On 4/20/13 8:53 AM UTC-7, Dave wrote:

> Wake n' bake!!!

Maybe something from Jessica Collins' recipes online? ;)

Koko

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Apr 20, 2013, 2:26:17 PM4/20/13
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4/20 not a good date in history - Hitler's birthday, Columbine Massacre, Deepwater Horizon Rig explodes... all not good.
Hope this one is a good day for all!

Cheri

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Apr 20, 2013, 3:05:46 PM4/20/13
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"Koko" <muun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Our friends 50th Anniversary today. They are partying tonight with 200
guests, so it'll be fun. She is lucky because her husband took care of all
the arrangements, caterers, invitations etc. He was a baker at one time, so
he made a really beautiful cake for tonight... and all of that was his gift
to her, plus a cruise next month. We'll be married 50 years next year, and
if I left it up to my dh, he'd call Papa Murphy's, but neither one of us is
into big shindigs for ourselves as those things go. LOL


Cheri

Koko

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Apr 20, 2013, 3:49:38 PM4/20/13
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Wow... 50 years is special, a reason to celebrate for sure. Sounds like a fun party with great food for you tonight. Enjoy and kudos for almost reaching the same benchmark yourself!
Koko ~~~ who has to give up the name Koko, since the original owner (my Siamese cat) has just been put to sleep ~~~ rest in peace, my darling Koko!
I will be around as Renate from now on.

Cheri

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Apr 20, 2013, 4:03:59 PM4/20/13
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"Koko" <muun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Koko ~~~ who has to give up the name Koko, since the original owner (my
> Siamese cat) has just been put to sleep ~~~ rest in peace, my darling
> Koko!
> I will be around as Renate from now on.
>


So sorry to hear about your cat, it's so very hard to lose a beloved pet,
and it's something that many non-animal lovers don't really understand. :-(

Cheri

Karen

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Apr 20, 2013, 5:33:42 PM4/20/13
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I'm so sorry about your Koko. I know how that goes, having lost my dear
cat, Piet, in February. He would have been nineteen years old this week.

I miss him very much.

Anyway, my condolences, Renate.

Karen
--
"Wit is educated insolence."

Frosty

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Apr 20, 2013, 6:29:44 PM4/20/13
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> Wow... 50 years is special, a reason to celebrate for sure. Sounds like a fun party with great food for you tonight. Enjoy and kudos for almost reaching the same benchmark yourself!
> Koko ~~~ who has to give up the name Koko, since the original owner (my Siamese cat) has just been put to sleep ~~~ rest in peace, my darling Koko!
> I will be around as Renate from now on.

So sorry Koko, my thoughts are with u :(

Renate

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Apr 20, 2013, 8:30:04 PM4/20/13
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I thank you all for your kind thoughts. Koko lived to be 14 and at his regular checkup was found to have cancer and the vet thought he was in pain, and that it would only get worse. So I did the kindest thing.
He was my buddy through a rough divorce and was doing this Siamese howling at my last wedding (in my living room). We even had a birthday in common. Thanks everybody, your support means a lot.

And, yes, Dave, sorry I hijacked your thread, but just realized the meaning of 4/20. I will have an enhance evening to celebrate the day. :))

Renate

Frosty

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Apr 20, 2013, 10:24:12 PM4/20/13
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Let's have some Koko pics~

Dave

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Apr 20, 2013, 10:25:42 PM4/20/13
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Oh, hey...no worries. I feel your pain. When I put Molson down a few
years back, it broke my heart (I spent $1500 in vet bills and would have
spent thousands more if we could have cured him from FIP). Losing a pet
is most difficult. I love my cats to death (err...pardon the pun).

Rolling a spliff in Koko's honor as we speak.

Dave - Toronto

Frosty

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Apr 20, 2013, 10:32:00 PM4/20/13
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> Rolling a spliff in Koko's honor as we speak.

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/4669/420b.gif

Dave

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Apr 20, 2013, 11:47:55 PM4/20/13
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On 4/20/13 10:32 PM, Frosty wrote:
>> Rolling a spliff in Koko's honor as we speak.
>
> http://imageshack.us/a/img843/4669/420b.gif

HA!!!!

Dave - Toronto

Karen

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Apr 21, 2013, 5:55:32 PM4/21/13
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Frosty <frostyw...@mts.net> wrote:
>> Rolling a spliff in Koko's honor as we speak.
>
> http://imageshack.us/a/img843/4669/420b.gif

LOL :-)

Cute.

Karen

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Apr 21, 2013, 5:55:32 PM4/21/13
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I'd love that, too!

If you're on Facebook of have another link for photos for us, that would be
nice.

Renate

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Apr 22, 2013, 6:50:29 PM4/22/13
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Here is Koko.. on Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/imagesbyrenate/36938885/

or here http://www.flickr.com/photos/imagesbyrenate/22919855/in/set-457520/

and if anyone really likes cats, here is a set of cat portraits:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/imagesbyrenate/sets/457520/with/22919855/

I was really into photography then, but it all seems to fade with time.I still have Mykat, the minx, but she's a very standing offish cat person, but seems to pose for pix. Koko hated it and took off as soon as I pointed a camera.

Thanks again,for all your wonderful support. I am so glad I still have my little boy dog Frodo, a Pommy mix. BTW Koko was also a mix and supersmart.
Renate

Cheri

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Apr 22, 2013, 8:02:12 PM4/22/13
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"Renate" <muun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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What a beautiful cat!!!

Cheri

Renate

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Apr 22, 2013, 8:09:07 PM4/22/13
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He was... and since his mother died a day after she had the kittens, a friend of mine hand-raised him along with 4 siblings. They all made it and all of them believed they were half human. :)

Renate

Frosty

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Apr 22, 2013, 11:20:00 PM4/22/13
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Okay I'll post my pic of the late Frosty cat

Big pic so be warned if it taking long time.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3863/frostyk.jpg

Dave

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Apr 23, 2013, 12:12:41 AM4/23/13
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That's a very cool picture. Is that a lilac tree he is climbing?? My
mother's cats used to climb through her lilac tree.

Funny, last time this corner of Uesnet had a discussion about cats (I
was going on about my 20 lb tuxedo cat named Booger)....next thing you
know there's a cat named Dave in the Abbott household. Not to toot my
own horn, but that really cracked me up.

Dave - Toronto

Renate

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Apr 23, 2013, 10:15:54 AM4/23/13
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Oh, he is so adorable! Love those ears... thanks for sharing.
Renate
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Frosty

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Apr 23, 2013, 12:35:25 PM4/23/13
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On 4/23/2013 9:15 AM, Renate wrote:> On Monday, April 22, 2013 11:20:00
The tree is one of the variations of the rosybloom crabapple. Couple
days each spring it looks like that.

As for the ears, she was a found cat in a very cold early winter so the
tips of the ears(and tail) were lost to frostbite.
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Karen

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Apr 23, 2013, 4:52:09 PM4/23/13
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What a beautiful photo!

Karen

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Apr 23, 2013, 4:52:09 PM4/23/13
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Zob <zobva1 @ gmail.com> wrote:
> On 20 Apr 2013 21:33:42 GMT, Karen <ka...@uh-uh.noway> wrote:
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>> I'm so sorry about your Koko. I know how that goes, having lost my dear
>> cat, Piet, in February. He would have been nineteen years old this week.
>>
>> I miss him very much.
>
> I'm so very sorry for your loss of Piet, Karen. How heartbroken you
> must still be. :(

It's already been a few months, but I still have a hard time with his loss.
My little guy, Benjamin Button (we'd just found him as a stray kitten, we
needed a name in a hurry and I had just read the movie review) really
stepped up to the plate after Piet died. Ben's five years old, but I think
he always felt he was second banana to Piet, my old guy. Ben simply adores
my Sophie, a Welsh Corgi.

Aren't animals great? :-)

Karen

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Apr 23, 2013, 4:52:09 PM4/23/13
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Oh, wow those blue eyes! What a beauty.

Thank you for sharing. Great photos.

Dave

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Apr 23, 2013, 7:45:23 PM4/23/13
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On 4/23/13 4:52 PM, Karen wrote:

> Aren't animals great? :-)

Cats rule!! Dogs drool.

Seriously though, some folks at my work talk about their children all
the time....and insinuate that those of us who do not have children
(like me) have no idea what it's like to love (or lose) a little one.
They don't realize how important pets are to folks (especially people
who don't have actual children of their/our own). To me, pets are VERY
important and I treat my cats as if they were my children.

So, yes...animals are great.

Dave - Toronto


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Karen

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Apr 24, 2013, 4:11:17 PM4/24/13
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I have a cat and a dog now. I love my dog, but I have to say, I'm really
more of a cat person. They're less needy.

And as a woman who decided not to have kids, I understand completely what
you mean when you say your pets are your family.

Diva

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Apr 24, 2013, 8:41:54 PM4/24/13
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On Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:25:42 PM UTC-4, Dave wrote:
been put to sleep ~~~ rest in peace, my darling Koko!
> >
>
> Oh, hey...no worries. I feel your pain. When I put Molson down a few
>
> years back, it broke my heart (I spent $1500 in vet bills and would have
>
> spent thousands more if we could have cured him from FIP). Losing a pet
>
> is most difficult. I love my cats to death (err...pardon the pun).
>
>
>
> Rolling a spliff in Koko's honor as we speak.
>
>
>
> Dave - Toronto

It cost almost what I pay in rent to save my small poodle Remy but had to put him to sleep when he was nine after he appeared to be recovering from spinal surgery,

Same thing happened with the previous pooch, Scarlett, a red poodle who developed Cushings but lived to fifteen. Had to send her to the Rainbow Bridge.
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I had both for four years at one point. Remy was the backup and survived for two years following Scarlett's demise.

I reluctantly decided no more pets because of my age but am fortunate to live in a pet friendly building. Dogs rule here. I know at east twenty and they all know me.

It's like being a Granny. All the love and none of the responsibility.

Diva

Karen

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Apr 24, 2013, 8:59:29 PM4/24/13
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I understand about getting older and pet ownership. My Corgi is ten years
old, my remaining cat is five years. Any future cats ( no more dogs) will
be senior citizens from the local shelter.

Dave

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Apr 25, 2013, 10:41:13 PM4/25/13
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On 4/24/13 8:41 PM, Diva wrote:
> On Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:25:42 PM UTC-4, Dave wrote:
> been put to sleep ~~~ rest in peace, my darling Koko!
>>>
>>
>> Oh, hey...no worries. I feel your pain. When I put Molson down a few
>>
>> years back, it broke my heart (I spent $1500 in vet bills and would have
>>
>> spent thousands more if we could have cured him from FIP).

> It cost almost what I pay in rent to save my small poodle Remy but had to put him to sleep when he was nine after he appeared to be recovering from spinal surgery,

Vets see you coming a mile away. They know you will pay through the
nose in order to save your pet. Been there....done that (don't like it
when that happens).

Dave - Toronto


Cheri

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Apr 26, 2013, 1:09:04 AM4/26/13
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"Dave" <nomore...@infinity.net> wrote in message
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> Vets see you coming a mile away. They know you will pay through the nose
> in order to save your pet. Been there....done that (don't like it when
> that happens).
>
> Dave - Toronto

The prices that vets are charging these days is just disgraceful and as you
say, they know. Now, pet medications are very expensive too, and probably
the reason that some people can't take care of their animals when they're
ill, which is very sad for the animal. I'm losing a lot of respect for a lot
of them.

Cheri

Renate

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Apr 26, 2013, 12:50:42 PM4/26/13
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It is hard to find an old country vet, who plainly tells you the facts and alternatives, when your pet is ill. I am lucky to have one of those.
There are a lot of greedy vets out there and human doctors, too. They only seem to care about money and not about their patients.

Partly at fault is their having to repay the financial aid. By the time they open the door to their patients and have bought all the equipment, they are several hundred thousand dollars in debt. Can't really blame them for wanting to get out of the red as soon as possible, but some seem to torture their four and two-legged patient with unnecessary, hopeless and expensive procedures. That's awful!

Renate

Karen

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Apr 26, 2013, 1:29:16 PM4/26/13
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I pay nothing (good insurance) for my own aches-and-pains arthritis meds,
but my poor old dog Sophie's Rx run about $85 monthly. I want her
comfortable, so she'll always have it, but damn!

Cheri

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Apr 26, 2013, 1:49:33 PM4/26/13
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"Renate" <muun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Yep, that's what I object to. Unnecessary, expensive procedures that they
pretty much know aren't really going to help, and they play on the love you
have for your pet. Not all of course, and I read this a few years ago but I
still think it's a great article.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1232217/Why-Im-ashamed-vet-shocking-expose-profession-puts-pets-painful-unnecessary-treatments-fleece-trusting-owners.html

Cheri

Cheri

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Apr 26, 2013, 1:54:35 PM4/26/13
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"Karen" <ka...@uh-uh.noway> wrote in message
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I did the same thing for my "once in a lifetime dog" Sophie. She had to have
pain medication and it was about 80-90 dollars a month through Pet-Meds too.
I loved that dog and still miss her. She was a rescue and we had her for
many years, but we did get another little rat terrier from the shelter 3
years ago and she is a wonderful dog too, not Sophie of course, but great in
her own way. :-)


Cheri

Diva

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Apr 26, 2013, 2:20:43 PM4/26/13
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>>>> Vets see you coming a mile away. They know you will pay through the
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> >>>> nose
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> in order to save your pet. Been there....done that (don't like it when
> >>>> that happens).
>
>
> >>>> Dave - Toronto
>
Surgery, MRI's, Ultra Sounds, Emergency Vet= half a year's rent.

Never a day goes by when my dog owning fellow residents aren't treading water to keep up with doggie dental cleaning, routine visits, prescriptions, tests and emergencies and diagnoses of diseases that afflict humans, cancer, addison's, Cushings, Diabetes, heart problems, obesity, thyroid, eye problems, hip dysplasia etc.

My grandmother had a GSD named Pal who lived in the basement and had eight pups. Never saw a vet.
( mean Pal, not Granny, although she good be very bitchy at times)

Diva

Cheri

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Apr 26, 2013, 2:36:25 PM4/26/13
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"Diva" <c.fr...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Yep, in the old days, no pets saw vets that I knew about. If your dog got
hit by a car or something like that someone in the family would put it down
and you got another one. Cats were for in the barn and they were mean! We
only ever had a vet for the farm animals birthing etc.:-) Annie (my rat
terrier) is truly the last pet of any kind that I will have.

Cheri

Karen

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Apr 26, 2013, 4:28:23 PM4/26/13
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That's an interesting article, Cheri, thanks. The point is made about
quality of life for a pet and the guilt of an owner to possibly treat an
animal 'way beyond its capacity to enjoy its life, especially a very
chronically sick or very old one. I knew my Piet (in the last two days of
his life) wasn't happy. At nineteen years, I couldn't ask him for more
time. Still, even though he left me peacefully and after so long, I find
myself still missing him at the oddest times two months later . I know I
did my best for him, he lived a very long time, but it's still rough.

Karen

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Apr 26, 2013, 4:28:23 PM4/26/13
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My problem is, I'd live in the basement without medic card before my
animals had to. I'm just that type :-|

Cheri

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Apr 26, 2013, 7:44:28 PM4/26/13
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"Karen" <ka...@uh-uh.noway> wrote in message
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I know Karen, it's been over three years with Sophie, and I still miss her
greatly. She was having a hard time breathing toward the end with the
cancer, and I had my hubby take her over to the vet to see if they could
give her something to make her breathe a little easier. He called and told
me that the vet said it was time to put her down, so I raced over and I
guess I just wasn't expecting it at that moment. It's hard to let go of our
pets. Sorry about Piet. :-(

Cheri


Cheri

Dave

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Apr 26, 2013, 8:07:50 PM4/26/13
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On 4/26/13 2:20 PM, Diva wrote:

> Never a day goes by when my dog owning fellow residents aren't treading water to keep up with doggie dental cleaning, routine visits, prescriptions, tests and emergencies and diagnoses of diseases that afflict humans, cancer, addison's, Cushings, Diabetes, heart problems, obesity, thyroid, eye problems, hip dysplasia etc.

OHIP should cover animal medical expenses.

I tell ya, some of the vets out there....it's a license to print money.
I still remember the vet looking at me and saying...."yes Dave, $1500
is a lot of money....but Molson could die." Well, Molson did die and I
still wrote a cheque for $1500. Wasn't too happy about that (especially
when I had brought him to the same vet 8 months earlier because Molson
was crying each time after exiting his litter box...and the vet said not
to worry about it).

Dave - Toronto



Karen

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Apr 26, 2013, 10:30:28 PM4/26/13
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If you have other pets, I'd change vets if I were you. Just sayin'.

Dave

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Apr 27, 2013, 12:17:03 PM4/27/13
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LOL...ya think?? That happened 10 years ago. Haven't been back to that
vet since then.

Dave - Toronto

Karen

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Apr 27, 2013, 10:39:38 PM4/27/13
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That's good to hear :-)

Diva

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Apr 29, 2013, 1:44:19 PM4/29/13
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On Friday, April 26, 2013 10:30:28 PM UTC-4, Karen wrote:
If you have other pets, I'd change vets if I were you. Just sayin'.
>
>
>
> Karen
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> --
>
> "Wit is educated insolence."

Boy, if this doesn't hit the nail on the head,
I don't know what does!

Two patients limp into two different medical clinics with the same complaint?

Both have trouble walking and appear to require a hip replacement.

The FIRST patient is examined within the hour, is x-rayed the same day and
has a time booked for surgery the following week.

The SECOND sees his family doctor after waiting 3 weeks for an appointment,
then waits 8 weeks to see a specialist, then gets an x-ray, which isn't
reviewed for another week and finally has his surgery scheduled for 6 months
from then.

Why the different treatment for the two patients?

The FIRST is a Golden Retriever.
The SECOND is a Senior Citizen.

Diva
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