No Soaps on 9/11
Ejfan1973
to reopen the wounds from last year.
Connie
something "appropriate". There were a handful of cable networks I know of.
Personally - and this is just the way I feel - I don't want to relive that
day all day. Im sure a lot of people who lost loved ones feel the same way.
actually, the way things are going up this way (new england) we've been
reliving it for about a week now.
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Jonathan Oudendijk
They shouldn't, really.
Luckily, I'm from Holland and they dont preempt on xmas or other holidays
here. :D And not on 911 too
Boozy Smurf
hurt you bad". 9/11 should continue as any normal day.
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TVSoapProd
>programming
>to reopen the wounds from last year.
>
should never be forgotten, therefore we need such news coverage. Also... this
is only the 1st Anniversary.
If they are preempting soaps on every
anniversary then something is
wrong, after this year, the networks should
just be covering AM memorial services,
and I expect they will next year. CBS
considered only airing the AM memorial services, but they decided it would be
in poor taste and a disgrace to air
gameshow and soaps right after it
since it is just the 1st Anniversary.
Personally I agree with them. And to
those who don't want to watch the
news coverage, I understand, although
maybe the time you would have spent
watching soaps, you can spend quiet
time, or with loved ones, something those
in those two towers, Pentagon, and airline jets aren't able to do!
Ejfan1973
2001 should never be forgotten, therefore we need such news coverage. >>
How on earth could Sept 11 be forgotten? It was so immense it found its way
into nearly aspect of my life and millions of others. I respectfully disagree
when it comes to MORE media coverage.
I'll watch the highlights on the evening news probably, but I can't subject
myself to hours and hours of that again.
In regards to the soaps: I know they all are part of a fictional parallel
universe, but I think it would be a good if the characters on the shows could
reflect in some way on how Sept 11 affected them.
E.
happy that David Letterman is taping a new show that day (YAY Dave!)
Carol
>
>This country gets itself in trouble when it forgets things. September 11,
>2001
>should never be forgotten, therefore we need such news coverage.
This isn't about helping America remember, this is about helping beleagured
networks get better ratings. This is just ripping open old wounds for the sake
of the press.
Donna L. Bridges
the heat, in Msg.# <20020907211009...@mb-cs.aol.com>,
huge...@aol.comspamford (Carol ) gasped out:
Nyah. Not this time. It may be because no *one* network is prepared to
stand out & buck the crowd & it may be because they fear that any
other programming they put on on that day would be criticized from
some quarter for some reason, since we are firmly in this 'damned if
you do, damned if you don't' season, and, yes, the whole picture is
constantly about the bottom line overall, but, I don't think this is a
ratings grabber. I'm not even sure that they're going to have ads.
Sure, they are conformists, and chicken-shit, and sometimes, even
often, they choose short-term ratings over long-term investment these
days, but, I think this decision came about very differently. But, you
have to remember that this whole television broadcast deal has
enormous ties to NYC.
The main thing I think going into it is that people should consider
staying open to seeing what they do. I have no idea how I am going to
feel. I have no idea what I'm going to think. Most of that has to do
with it actually being a year later & how much about everything now
reminds me of it. Some of it has to do with where I want to be that
day & if there's anything in particular I want to do, personally,
about & for the day. And, that leaves a little bit left over to go
into consideration of the television coverage. I guess part of it is
about priorities, part emotions, ... and, then, even though it's by
way of the Deep South, I'm a New Yorker. Last year it seemed as if
many people all over were ready to declare themselves New Yorkers with
us. I'm much more interested in what people think & feel about it as
it unfolds & after, the day itself as well as the coverage of it, than
I am what people are projecting ahead of time. For once armchair
quarterbacking may be desirable.
Sure, people are going to be split, in a number of ways I would hope,
over what should be done, should have been done, but I can't help but
be overwhelmed by thinking that the media couldn't have made a
decision that would have made everyone happy. Sometimes I think we all
feel like that a bit - at work, at home, in life - that we can't win
for losing. And, I just wish we could all take a breath & let
something be good enough.
--
DonnaB <*> shallotpeel/Yahoo Msgr 8^>
"Happy Birthday Mrs. Ned Ashton from me, the other Mrs. Ned Ashton!" -
Lois, GH
Lynne726
couldreflect in some way on how Sept 11 affected them.<<<
Here's an article about how some soaps will deal with 9/11.
*********Soap Dish
'OLTL' salutes actor-cop 9/11 hero
By CAROLYN HINSEY
All 10 daytime dramas will be preempted on Sept. 11, but some of them will
still address the event.
"John Perry of the NYPD worked on our show," says Robert S.Woods, who plays
police commissioner Bo Buchanan on "One Life to Live." "He was retiring [on
Sept. 11]. He went to turn his stuff in and the call came in."
Perry, who worked in the 40th Precinct, died in the World Trade Center
collapse.
He was also an actor, appearing in "The Devil's Advocate" and "Die Hard 3."
Most recently, he played the recurring role of a Llanview police officer under
Bo's command on "OLTL."
Perry will be honored on the Sept. 20 episode.
"He was the neatest guy," Woods says. "George Clooney told a story about him on
that big tribute, 'The Salute to Heroes.'
The cast and crew here really wanted to do something to honor him. The show
opens with a picture of the plaque and Bo
saying, 'God, I can't believe it's been over a year.'"
The camera will pan in on Perry's picture on the plaque, which will then hang
permanently in a prominent place in the police station.
"We didn't want to give the appearance of capitalizing on the catastrophe,"
Woods says. "This is not about publicity. This
is about remembering John and how that disaster touched so many people. It's
going to be there so his folks can see it
and know that we are thinking about him every day."
Sharp-eyed viewers can also spot an NYPD pin with a flag on Bo's lapel, a gift
to Woods from the Manhattan North Homicide Squad, and an FDNY patch on the wall
of his character's office.
"The patch is from Engine 10/Ladder 10," Woods says. "That office lends itself
to keeping the memory alive. And we will."
Two of ABC's other shows - "All My Children" and "Port Charles" - will allude
to the tragedy next week, but not address it directly.
"Days of Our Lives" will showcase a ceremony on Sept. 10 and Sept. 12 called
"The Celebration of Heroes," involving Salem police officers Roman, Abe, Billie
and Bo.
None of the other six shows will address the anniversary.*********
Blueeaglex
> ratings grabber. I'm not even sure that they're going to have ads.
There will be very little to possibly no ads. Partly this is because
the network doesn't want to run them, partly it is because no
advertisers want to touch it.
TVSoapProd
>networks get better ratings. This is just ripping open old wounds for the
>sake
>of the press.
Airing soap operas, game shows, and talkshows right after the morning coverage
of memorial services was
determined to be in poor taste.
That is why they won't be airing regular
programming. And as Donna mentioned,
advertisers have expressed no desire to
air ads during such news coverage, so money isn't an issue.
Donna L. Bridges
the heat, in Msg.# <67e9ea5.02090...@posting.google.com>,
bluee...@hotmail.com (Blueeaglex) gasped out:
>There will be very little to possibly no ads. Partly this is because
>the network doesn't want to run them, partly it is because no
>advertisers want to touch it.
LOL, thanks, that sounds just like the 'damned if you do, damned if
you don't' situation I was thinking about.
What is possibly most interesting to me is that before the dawn of CNN
we never had this kind of thing as an issue at all. The long weekend
of the JFK assasination & lying in state & state funeral was an
exception. The afternoon pre-emptions for certain Senate sub-committee
hearings (Watergate, Iran/Contra, etc.) were an exception. But, since
we've had 24 hours news available on television they really don't have
any good idea about what to do & what not to.
--
DonnaB <*> shallotpeel/Yahoo Msgr 8^>
"The way you are, everyone you know has to be related, until life with
you is like living in the middle of a soap opera." - Mack to Karen, KL
Carol
>Airing soap operas, game shows, and talkshows right after the morning
>coverage
>of memorial services was
>determined to be in poor taste.
I certainly don't know why. I'd think that the best idea for everyone would be
to move on and go back to their usual routine after watching the services. Not
seeing this rehashed hour after hour.
Chealion313
all, I can't IMAGINE what the networks could possibly show during 14 hours
coverage--on every network, nonetheless. Secondly, why rehash everything that
made us truly miserable when they constantly showed nothing but news for a week
straight last year? We know it happened, we're not going to forget it
happened, just like we won't forget WWII and December 7th, BUT just when we
were getting back on our feet and returning to our normal lives, we don't need
to be depressed all over again. Everyone I know is already planning on hitting
the movie theaters and/or renting movies on the 11th....there has to be a happy
medium somewhere........
Dana Carpender
My husband looked at me over his coffee yesterday morning and said,
"Can't we just go to an island somewhere until Thursday?" Somehow I
think it'll be all through the darned weekend, too.
--
Dana W. Carpender
Author, How I Gave Up My Low Fat Diet -- And Lost Forty Pounds!
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TVSoapProd
on Sept 11th. If the advertising community agreed it would be improper to
conduct business as usual on the 1st Anniversary, then
the networks can't air their programming.
All it takes are a few major ad companies to say no we aren't airing ads on
this date, and its all over for the networks.
Chealion313
>"Can't we just go to an island somewhere until Thursday?" Somehow I
>think it'll be all through the darned weekend, too.
>
Thank god for the Blockbuster Video DVD Freedom Pass...I'm going to make the
store run out of videos!!!
T. David Bamford
>I'm glad to see pretty much everyone I know agrees with me on this...
>Everyone I know is already planning on hitting the movie theaters
>and/or renting movies on the 11th....there has to be a happy
>medium somewhere........
We are dealing with the MEDIA here. A happy medium? Balance? Nice
concepts, but totally foreign to our beloved, unelected Fourth
Estate...
Michelle Moreland Orlando
CD"s and go on internet and I Love Old Radio Programs like "Lights
Out" and other moldy old programs that I listened to as a child and
have that playing.
I Don't need to be constantly reminded by showing over and over again
what happened. It was a horrible day for the families of the people
who died and the poor Children who lost their fathers and
mothers(little children also). And for us Americans!
An elderly Army Brat that went through WW2,Korean War and Hungarian
Revolution time.
Michelle
Spooky Old Alice
a decent trial on CTV. If those aren't any good, the old standby of
Soapnet with Sisters and Knots Landing and Hotel works just fine.
In the evening, we'll do what we normally do: watch old movies or old
classic reruns on TVLand or Nick at Nite. It's amazing to me how there
can be so many shows on network tv that we don't like. I'm guessing we
don't watch an hour of primetime a week on the networks, and that's
quite a change from just a few years ago.
mary b
Donna L. Bridges <shall...@rcn.com> wrote:
> In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on 08 Sep 2002 01:10:09 GMT exhausted from
> the heat, in Msg.# <20020907211009...@mb-cs.aol.com>,
> huge...@aol.comspamford (Carol ) gasped out:
>
> Nyah. Not this time. It may be because no *one* network is prepared to
> stand out & buck the crowd & it may be because they fear that any
> other programming they put on on that day would be criticized from
> some quarter for some reason, since we are firmly in this 'damned if
> you do, damned if you don't' season, and, yes, the whole picture is
> constantly about the bottom line overall, but, I don't think this is a
> ratings grabber. I'm not even sure that they're going to have ads.
>
> Sure, they are conformists, and chicken-shit, and sometimes, even
> often, they choose short-term ratings over long-term investment these
> days, but, I think this decision came about very differently. But, you
> have to remember that this whole television broadcast deal has
> enormous ties to NYC.
Pretty much says it all :)
Mary
--
In any civic crisis of a great and dangerous sort the common
herd is not privately anxious about the rights and wrongs of
the matter, it is only anxious to be on the winning side... The
gospel of the monarchical patriotism is: "The King can do no
wrong." We have adopted it with all its servility, with an
unimportant change in the wording: "O country, right or wrong!"
Donna L. Bridges
<Xlte9.8827$H6.10...@zwoll1.home.nl>, "Jonathan Oudendijk"
<oude...@home.nl> wrote:
>That just sucks.
>They shouldn't, really.
>Luckily, I'm from Holland and they dont preempt on xmas or other holidays
>here. :D And not on 911 too
What do they do then since US shows don't have shows to send for those
days?
--
DonnaB 09.11.01 We will never forget.
"Unless mankind ends all wars, wars will end all mankind." - John F.
Kennedy
Donna L. Bridges
<byte9.59898$C8.1...@nnrp1.uunet.ca>, "Boozy Smurf"
<andrewh...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I feel it gives the terrorists the power and glory to say "we hurt you and
>hurt you bad". 9/11 should continue as any normal day.
Yes, you know those terrorists, they really hate it when we go on
making the do-nuts.
--
DonnaB 09.11.01 We will never forget.
"The poet's voice need not merely be the record of man; it can be one
of the props, the pillars to help him endure and prevail." - William
Faulkner (1897-1962)
Jonathan Oudendijk
"Donna L. Bridges" <shall...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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We are two years behind ;)
or a little less because of many preempted shows there
so thats no problem!
Donna L. Bridges
<hIMg9.49615$H6.45...@zwoll1.home.nl>, "Jonathan Oudendijk"
<oude...@home.nl> wrote:
>"Donna L. Bridges" <shall...@rcn.com> wrote in message
>news:7757ou0thp0ecss1b...@4ax.com...
>> What do they do then since US shows don't have shows to send for those
>> days?
>
>We are two years behind ;)
>or a little less because of many preempted shows there
>so thats no problem!
Ah, that, being behind with little or no hope of ever catching up,
gotcha! Is ATWT shown there as an hour long show or cut into half-hour
shows?
--
DonnaB 09.11.01 We will never forget.
"The First Amendment is often inconvenient. But that is besides the
point. Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation
to tolerate speech." - Anthony Kennedy
Donna L. Bridges
<20020907203704...@mb-mv.aol.com>, ejfa...@aol.com
(Ejfan1973) wrote:
>How on earth could Sept 11 be forgotten? It was so immense it found its way
>into nearly aspect of my life and millions of others. I respectfully disagree
>when it comes to MORE media coverage.
Reading some of the commentary on the coverage itself makes me wonder
about just that. And, I know how quickly people seemed to forget
Oklahoma City.
>happy that David Letterman is taping a new show that day (YAY Dave!)
And, proud again with his show, just as I was last year when he first
came back on the air & first did a 'monologue'.
Jonathan Oudendijk
commercials after 10 mins and after 40 mins though
but still all in the same hour!
is it 2 half-hours shows in america?
"Donna L. Bridges" <shall...@rcn.com> wrote in message
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Darn
>From: "Jonathan Oudendijk" oude...@home.nl
>Date: 9/16/2002 1:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8Roh9.60252$H6.56...@zwoll1.home.nl>
>
>Its an hour long show,
>commercials after 10 mins and after 40 mins though
>but still all in the same hour!
>is it 2 half-hours shows in america?
>
No, it's an hour with about 5 commercial breaks throughout. There's a bumper
with the logo at the half-hour point.
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Donna L. Bridges
<8Roh9.60252$H6.56...@zwoll1.home.nl>, "Jonathan Oudendijk"
<oude...@home.nl> wrote:
>Its an hour long show,
>commercials after 10 mins and after 40 mins though
>but still all in the same hour!
>is it 2 half-hours shows in america?
No, it's an hour, although part of that hour is commercials. I had
talked to someone in Europe at one point where they were breaking hour
long soaps in two, which is why I asked.
--
DonnaB 09.11.01 We will never forget.
"I do not know with what weapons World War III will be fought, but
World War IV will be fought with sticks & stones." - Albert Einstein
(1879-1955)
Lynne726
about just that. And, I know how quickly people seemed to forget Oklahoma City.
<<
I agree. I was really surprised to hear some people from "the heartland of
America" say (during last week's memorial coverage) that they weren't in to all
the 9/11 coverage because it just didn't seem something that could touch them.
How quickly they forget, indeed.
Sarah Estell
| In rec.arts.tv.soaps.cbs on 08 Sep 2002 00:37:04 GMT in Msg.#
| <20020907203704...@mb-mv.aol.com>, ejfa...@aol.com
| (Ejfan1973) wrote:
|
| >How on earth could Sept 11 be forgotten? It was so immense it found its
way
| >into nearly aspect of my life and millions of others. I respectfully
disagree
| >when it comes to MORE media coverage.
|
| Reading some of the commentary on the coverage itself makes me wonder
| about just that. And, I know how quickly people seemed to forget
| Oklahoma City.
I completely agree with you, Donna. And I was talking to someone last week
about this very thing - they said that no one had forgotten Pearl Harbor.
And I agreed, but pointed out that the US had succeeded in its goal of
"regime change" with respect to Japan. But also reminded her that in
college, we used to have mixers on December 7. The them was Let's Get
Bombed on Pearl Harbor Day. Pretty awful to think about 2-3 generations in
the future having 9/11 parties, isn't it? Makes me ashamed I ever went to
those parties.
| >happy that David Letterman is taping a new show that day (YAY Dave!)
|
| And, proud again with his show, just as I was last year when he first
| came back on the air & first did a 'monologue'.
That's 'cause he's a good Hoosier boy from the Heartland!
SarahE