Y&R: Jill can do 1 of 2 things!
Chopper
million company. There was never any in between. This whole who's
running Jabot for the past 2 years has been a joke. I think when the
Jabot company started on the show it was supposed to be like Revlon,
now it's more like the Wet n' Wild brand.
Diva
Dry and Tame.
Diva
record hunter
You're right. She should have been a manager at Applebee's, in a cross-
promotion the way they do it on FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS. Or at least have
been District Attorney.
Diva
Or Matress 'D at the Athletic Club since ina only surfaces long enough
to get oxygen.
Diva
record hunter
Ina? Wrong channel.
Jaie
Or at least have
> been District Attorney.
Other than needing a bachelor's and a law degree and a bar admission,
and legal experience, Jill is definitely ready for D.A. Heck, she did
the last one. That qualifies her. : )
record hunter
Wasn't Y&R (in)famous for having a doctor who completed all the
requirements to become a doctor in, like, a year or two? You're saying
Jill couldn't do all that, only the law version, just as fast?
Shirl
> Wasn't Y&R (in)famous for having a doctor who completed all the
> requirements to become a doctor in, like, a year or two? You're saying
> Jill couldn't do all that, only the law version, just as fast?
I can't think who that could have been. Y&R didn't have as much story
centered around medical/hospitals as other soaps. Of course in the
early-early days, there were Snapper and Casey, but it wasn't all
focused in the hospital like several others. I do remember Nick
finishing college in record time, with Sharon writing or calling (?)
to ask if they'd let him graduate early. And who can forget how FAST
Christine became a full fledged attorney?! If only John Kennedy Jr.
had it so easy. Of course, Victoria became Vice President of an entire
division with no college whatsoever, and several others have also
become corp execs with little-to-no training, Drucilla and Sharon for
example. Ryan and later Nina were in school and ultimately graduated.
Phyllis has been known to be a "webmaster" and an adept hacker, but I
don't remember her education ever being spelled out -- maybe self
taught? Ashley is supposed to have an official college education for
her job as chemist, but it was off screen as was Olivia's and Neil's.
Who am I forgetting?
Shirl
Diva
Gee, I forgot it "Gina"
Diva
record hunter
Oh. "Duh" on my part.
Jaie
I believe Cricket did the bachelor's and law degrees in about six
months, so, yes, Jill could too under the SORDAP (Soap Opera Rapid
Degree Awarding Program). My point is that she's not "yet" ready.
Jaie
> I can't think who that could have been. Y&R didn't have as much story
> centered around medical/hospitals as other soaps. Of course in the
> early-early days, there were Snapper and Casey, but it wasn't all
> focused in the hospital like several others. I do remember Nick
> finishing college in record time, with Sharon writing or calling (?)
> to ask if they'd let him graduate early.
Close. Nick had to miss much of his last semester because Sharon was
hospitalized when she went into pre-mature labor. So he assumed he'd
have to wait a semester to graduate. Sharon took the initiative of
speaking with his professors to see if he could make up the tests,
thus allowing him to graduate on time (i.e., on the accelerated soap
schedule).
And who can forget how FAST
> Christine became a full fledged attorney?! If only John Kennedy Jr.
> had it so easy.
Funny. I recall that he took three tries to pass the NY bar and I
used to hear stories about him crawling down stairs to sneak away from
his bar tutor . . . don't know if the story was true, but it's
unfortunately one of the lasting images I have of him . . . well,
other than when I used to share an elevator with him (holy hotness!).
Somehow, my attempts to will the elevator to break down never seemed
to work. I guess I wasn't channeling my inner soap star strongly
enough. : )
Of course, Victoria became Vice President of an entire
> division with no college whatsoever, and several others have also
> become corp execs with little-to-no training, Drucilla and Sharon for
> example. Ryan and later Nina were in school and ultimately graduated.
> Phyllis has been known to be a "webmaster" and an adept hacker, but I
> don't remember her education ever being spelled out -- maybe self
> taught?
Well, with Victoria, Sharon, Drucilla, Brad and even Phyllis, it was
purely nepotism/cronyism that got them their positions. That
certainly happens. Phyllis' education has never been made clear.
We've been told that she always had a "knack" for computers, and she
apparently became an expert during the years that she was off the
show. Then there was Diane who came back from her hiatus as an
architect. Nikki "bought" her way in. That happens to.
Poor Ryan had to work his way up from the mailroom . . . as did Billy,
the only potential nepotee subjected to such humiliation.
Ashley is supposed to have an official college education for
> her job as chemist, but it was off screen as was Olivia's and Neil's.
> Who am I forgetting?
Ashley has either a master's or Ph. D. in chemistry.
Olivia obviously has an M.D., but I forget from where . . . probably
wherever she and Ashley were sorority sisters together (gag)
Neil has an MBA from Stanford.
Jack and Adam have MBAs from Harvard.
I think Lauren and Tracy graduated together from GCU, but I don't
recall whether Tracy went on to get a master's while away.
Michael would have to have a law degree.
Colleen was offered a teaching position, so that implies that she had
at least gotten her Master's--what BS.
Did Mac and Billy graduate from GCU?
We know, as of TODAY, that Devon just graduated from GCU.
Has Daniel graduated from GCU?
I assume that Lilly hasn't since she's been ill all this time.
Shirl
> > Of course, Victoria became Vice President of an entire
> > division with no college whatsoever, and several others have also
> > become corp execs with little-to-no training, Drucilla and Sharon for
> > example. Ryan and later Nina were in school and ultimately graduated.
> > Phyllis has been known to be a "webmaster" and an adept hacker, but I
> > don't remember her education ever being spelled out -- maybe self
> > taught?
>
> Well, with Victoria, Sharon, Drucilla, Brad and even Phyllis, it was
> purely nepotism/cronyism that got them their positions. That
> certainly happens.
I know it happens. My point was just that they had little-or-no
training for positions where there would have been ridiculously-more-
qualified people. Nick and Sharon running the coffee shop and making
it successful rang true; running a corporation, or even just a
division of it, doesn't (IMO). Of course I realize IOAS, but still.
> Phyllis' education has never been made clear.
Right, that's what I said.
> We've been told that she always had a "knack" for computers, and she
> apparently became an expert during the years that she was off the
> show.
She was an expert before she was off the show, unless you're referring
to the time before the character initially joined the cast. It was
implied that she and Sasha were aware of each other's ability to alter
records at the lab, and she also slipped into the car rental office
undetected, hacked into their system and deleted all traces of her
connection to the car than ran down Paul and Christine. Poof, end of
story! Grrrrr. Lots of loose ends to that story, considering they were
generally more careful about that kind of thing then.
Self-taught, highly capable computer hackers exist and are employed by
major companies though and are at least more believable than some who
have started in the mail room and been in decision-making positions in
the blink of an eye.
> Then there was Diane who came back from her hiatus as an
> architect.
In defense of that one, at least she was away long enough to have done
that -- when it supposedly happens during a character's lengthy
hiatus, it's a little more believable that they at least got some
education than when a character gets a job in the mail room and
shortly thereafter, they're suddenly qualified to be VP of an entire
division, and we've seen no evidence whatsoever of said
qualifications.
That said, Dru wasn't in school during her hiatus, she was supposedly
an international model. Not that there's nothing to be learned as a
model, but ... having the qualifications to butt heads with corp execs
about significant decisions for a company?
> Nikki "bought" her way in. That happens to.
Agreed, and at least there's some believability to that vs. putting
someone Drucilla in a corporate office making decisions. I remember
the "training" Nikki got from Brad. Sitting on the sofa, he tutored
her in one or two scenes on how to use a laptop/computer. Presto! ...
the uneducated, former stripper, stay-at-home Newman wife (she didn't
raise the kids, either...they were in Switzerland) is instantly
qualified. Ah, well... if you're contributing $35M (I may be wrong,
but as I recall, she and Brad bought-in together with $70M, or
somewhere around there), guess it doesn't matter if you ever crossed
the threshold of an actual classroom.
> Poor Ryan had to work his way up from the mailroom . . . as did Billy,
> the only potential nepotee subjected to such humiliation.
IIRC, Victoria started in the mail room, too.
> Colleen was offered a teaching position, so that implies that she had
> at least gotten her Master's--what BS.
> Did Mac and Billy graduate from GCU?
> We know, as of TODAY, that Devon just graduated from GCU.
> Has Daniel graduated from GCU?
> I assume that Lilly hasn't since she's been ill all this time.
Unknown. At least we SAW them in high school. We saw them far more
often at the coffee shop than we have at GCU.
Can't remember what "training" Paul has, or J.T., although there's at
least a little more believable leeway with regard to private
investigation...IMO.
Sure hope they at least have the good sense to hold their charter
pilots and aircraft mechanics to more a more stringent set of
qualifications and pre-requisites than those they trust to make
decisions for their corporations!
Shirl
Diva
> Agreed, and at least there's some believability to that vs. putting
> someone Drucilla in a corporate office making decisions. I remember
> the "training" Nikki got from Brad. Sitting on the sofa, he tutored
> her in one or two scenes on how to use a laptop/computer. Presto! ...
> the uneducated, former stripper, stay-at-home Newman wife (she didn't
> raise the kids, either...they were in Switzerland) is instantly
> qualified.
Brad must have taught her on a Mac.
I took a PC course in DOS back in the early 1990s and decided I hated
computers.
Then I got the little box with the smiley Mac face eager to swallow
another square floppy and the rest is victory. (anyone remember the
Starry Sky Screensaver that looked like the opening shot of
"Manhattan") ? Next I was on to the Beach Ball Mac in jelly bean aqua
then, the half a cantaloupe white Mac with the flexible neck and
currently the sleek silver and black replete with Snow Leopard. I am
eyeing the one launched last week but it is not that different. Now I
am the resident Mac guru among family and friends. I admit to having
attended three Mac tutorials but found them tailored to newbies,
teaching stuff I already knew.
Mac caters to all manner of eager cyber meisters, even strippers.
Colleen may have had one and she was a one time table dancer.
Diva
Shirl
> Brad must have taught her on a Mac.
:-) True!
> I took a PC course in DOS back in the early 1990s and decided I hated
> computers.
>
> Then I got the little box with the smiley Mac face eager to swallow
> another square floppy and the rest is victory. (anyone remember the
> Starry Sky Screensaver that looked like the opening shot of
> "Manhattan") ?
YES! I remember it! My first Mac was a MacPlus around 1984. I used
them both in my business (Mac & PC); I loved doing the projects I
could do on the Mac, whereas the PC was the cause of more hair-pulling
and headaches over that 18-yr period than any other business-related
problem! Plug-and-play vs. Buy-and-Cry!
It continues to this day. I have a PC company laptop, but I do most of
my work on the Mac, then transfer it to the PC. At least the two are
mostly compatible now. That's a VERY significant improvement.
> Next I was on to the Beach Ball Mac in jelly bean aqua
> then, the half a cantaloupe white Mac with the flexible neck and
> currently the sleek silver and black replete with Snow Leopard.
I had the white clamshell (trimmed in aqua), and a purple/white iMac
(10 yrs ago).
Yeah, I have the next to last released iMac w/Snow Leopard, too. The
only thing that irritates me now about Apple's marketing is that you
can buy a brand new $2400 system today, and next month they come out
with something bigger and faster for $500 less? I still love the
product, but Apple didn't used to screw their customers that way.
That's not the way to retain loyalty, IMO.
Shirl
Tony Cianfaglione
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Shirl wrote:
> ...but Apple didn't used to screw their customers that way.
Yes, they did. They royally screwed the Apple II users but that's
ancient history now.
Jaie
> Mac caters to all manner of eager cyber meisters, even strippers.
Yeah, that's the problem with Mac. She thinks it's forgivable that
criminals like Kevin tried to murder Billy's niece, but Billy is
shameful because he reminds Kevin and Victor of their despicable
pasts.
Terry Pulliam Burd
fired up random neurons and synapses to opine:
>Mac caters to all manner of eager cyber meisters, even strippers.
>Colleen may have had one and she was a one time table dancer.
I'm in the process of replacing my PC and had toyed with the idea of
switching to a Mac, but my computer tech talked me out of it. Said I
would absolutely hate re-learning my way around a computer. I am sick
to death of Microsoft and he's telling me that he wants to load
Windows 2007. My computer at the office has Windows 2007 and I *cannot
stand* the damned 2007 Word. Ah, well...
Terry Pulliam Burd
--
"If you're going to be wrong, be wrong at the top of your lungs."
Lucy, "Peanuts"
To reply, replace "meatloaf" with "cox"
Shirl
> I'm in the process of replacing my PC and had toyed with the idea of
> switching to a Mac, but my computer tech talked me out of it. Said I
> would absolutely hate re-learning my way around a computer.
And lemme guess ... your computer tech doesn't work on/with Macs? What
a self-serving comment!
I've always used both, and I couldn't disagree more about "learning
your way around the Mac". The Mac is way, WAY more logical than the
PC. Don't know how to do something? Most times, you go to the logical
place to find the answer, and it's there...as opposed to the PC where
many times, if a tech didn't show you how, you would NEVER have
figured it out on your own.
I recently recommended the Mac to a co-worker whose personal PC
crashed for the last time. He got an iMac. I just brought him to the
store, and the salesman explained all the features. One of the most
attractive was that viruses aren't NEARLY as much of an issue with
Macs. He bought one and LOVES it. He has figured out everything he
generally does on his computer and says he'd like to explore some of
the other features that he hasn't used yet.
> I am sick
> to death of Microsoft and he's telling me that he wants to load
> Windows 2007.
My company laptop is an HP. It works, but I waste A LOT of company
time just waiting ... vs. the Mac that you start-up and it's ready to
use in a couple minutes, if that. Plus, everything WORKS without
having to Restart several times during one session.
If your'e sick to death of Microsoft, what have you got to lose by
TRYING the Mac? It is more expensive than a PC to *buy*, but the added
purchase expense is WELL worth the month in eliminated hair-pulling
and frustration. Additional software is plug-and-play.
> My computer at the office has Windows 2007 and I *cannot
> stand* the damned 2007 Word. Ah, well...
Word updates are a perfect example of the kinds of things the "if it
ain't broke, don't fix it" saying was created for!
Shirl
MarkH
Jill and Kay. I don't want them sappy, but I enjoy them on the same
side for now.
Jaie
(I may be wrong,
> but as I recall, she and Brad bought-in together with $70M, or
> somewhere around there), guess it doesn't matter if you ever crossed
> the threshold of an actual classroom.
That's correct. Money talks. And Jabot was on the verge of
bankruptcy so Nikki and Brad got board seats.
> > Poor Ryan had to work his way up from the mailroom . . . as did Billy,
> > the only potential nepotee subjected to such humiliation.
> IIRC, Victoria started in the mail room, too.
Did she? I remember her spending a lot of time flirting with Ryan
there, but did she work there?
> Sure hope they at least have the good sense to hold their charter
> pilots and aircraft mechanics to more a more stringent set of
> qualifications and pre-requisites than those they trust to make
> decisions for their corporations!
Yes, what ARE Wally's credentials? Do we know if he died when the
Newman plane crashed? Do we even know if Wally was on that plane? Am
I going to have to list him, along with Fisher, as MIA?
Diva
He must have been on his laptop or someone's lap.
Diva
Niki
>> Sure hope they at least have the good sense to hold their charter
>> pilots and aircraft mechanics to more a more stringent set of
>> qualifications and pre-requisites than those they trust to make
>> decisions for their corporations!
> Yes, what ARE Wally's credentials? Do we know if he died when the
> Newman plane crashed? Do we even know if Wally was on that plane? Am
> I going to have to list him, along with Fisher, as MIA?
Nick went down in a plane awhile back. Was that a Newman jet?
--
Niki
record hunter
I think so. At least, I don't recall anyone's talking about what would
have been the obvious tragedy of a planeload of passengers falling
from the sky.
Cheri
news:2d8e9761-1b44-45f1...@m38g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
Yes, it was the Newman jet, and there was talk of a plot to bring it down
thinking that Victor or someone else was aboard?
Cheri
Jaie
> "record hunter" <record.hun...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Jack was supposed to be on the Newman jet so there was some
speculation that he was the target.
Niki
>> Nick went down in a plane awhile back. Was that a Newman jet?
>> --
>> Niki
> I think so. At least, I don't recall anyone's talking about what would
> have been the obvious tragedy of a planeload of passengers falling
> from the sky.
Ok. So those details seem to have gone by the wayside.
--
Niki
record hunter
It has hardly ever been mentioned. But we saw how they revisited
Terrible Tom's safe deposit box, so they may plan to address Nick's
plane crash at some time in the future.
Niki
> On Nov 8, 8:54 pm, Niki <nikib...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok. So those details seem to have gone by the wayside.
> It has hardly ever been mentioned. But we saw how they revisited
> Terrible Tom's safe deposit box, so they may plan to address Nick's
> plane crash at some time in the future.
I suppose we'll see if we can stand to keep watching.
--
Niki
Bunny
(snip)
"Shirl" <shin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ea69c40a-f8fd-4a12...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
: Terry Pulliam Burd:
: > My computer at the office has Windows 2007 and I *cannot
: > stand* the damned 2007 Word. Ah, well...
:
: Word updates are a perfect example of the kinds of things the "if it
: ain't broke, don't fix it" saying was created for!
:
: Shirl
I have been using 2007 Office suite at work for about a year now.
I still struggle with the reorganization and shortcuts.
Let's hope it's like "the new coke" and
they trash the Office 2007 and go back to what was an
already perfectly good design.
There are so many other issues with Microsoft's
operating systems and applications that need more attention.
Does ANYONE find the 2007 more user-friendly or convenient?
I would appreciate reading any comments.
I will not use ANY new operating system that has
been out for less than a year.
Might as well wait for the Service Packs to
be incorporated into the software rather than
downloading the bullshit from the internet every few days.
:-P
Diva
> (snip)
>
> "Shirl" <shinn...@gmail.com> wrote in message
Get a Mac!
Diva
Bunny
"Diva" <c.fr...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:35b60f23-9bfe-4567...@j35g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
Get a Mac!
Diva
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I certainly will if the financial and communications application
compatibility has improved.
I have no use for graphics and presentation-oriented programs.
<really sick of micro-crap, though>
Diva
> "Diva" <c.fril...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
That is not why I have a Mac.
Diva
Bunny
Diva
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Well, you could tell me why, if you like.
It used to be that Macs dominated the GUI aspects of the computer.
I am not up to date with the current aptitudes of the Mac.
Diva
The Mac is speedy, simple to use, has a wonderful interface, new tools
and features that quickly access many things. Get thee to a Mac store
for a demo. Mac is also Windows compatible with most major programs. I
do not know of one friend who got one specifically for graphic and
design purposes. (no $$ interest)
Diva
Diva
Bunny
http://www.apple.com/ca/getamac/whymac/?cid=WWWCA-MKT-MACPC-20091101-STAR02
Diva
Thanks for the link.
When my laptop poops out I will definitely give Mac a hard look.