GH: ending from 3/31
Eleanor Howell
Argh!! My cable cut out from the moment Emily was saying where she'd
been until the end. I'd really appreciate it if someone would let me
know if anything vital happened in the last fifteen minutes. (Although
I might be able to fill in the gaps with future "Previously on General
Hospital")
Too bad VCRs can't automatically switch to antena after the cable goes
out. :)
Thanks!
Eleanor
MrnLibn
Eleanor asked about the last fifteen minutes of GH on 3/31:
A. J. goes to (I think) Ruby's, where Keesha has just come out the door
and is standing, looking off into the distance. A.J. says he needs
Keesha, and she replies that she has attended an alanon meeting. He gets
offended, and repeats that he needs Keesha. She turns around and walks
away. There is a great song playing in the background - and if anyone can
tell me what it is and by whom I would greatly appreciate it! - that is
very poignant. Jax is shown alone in the penthouse, crying; and Brenda is
shown alone in her hotel room, crying. Right after Emily and Monica left
the room - Monica went to Emily's room with her to talk - and I just CAN'T
BELIEVE that these people can't smell the drugs on her! GRRR - Ned and
Alan were standing in the room looking shellshocked when Justus came in.
He asked what was going on, and if he could help any way? Ned asked him
to take care of some ongoing business with Yagi Pharmaceuticals and said
he really trusted and counted on Justus and was glad he was working with
him. Justus made a face, and made a very sarcastic comment about feeling
such a part of the Quartermaine family, which went completely over Ned's
head. It was a pretty packed ending; hopefully others will fill you in
better. But that music... It really made me cry. (I don't get to read
the newsgroup on a regular basis, so if anyone knows the song, could you
email me please? TIA a bunch.)
Patricia Ryan
Justene Adamec
MrnLibn wrote: Right after Emily and Monica left
> the room - Monica went to Emily's room with her to talk - and I just CAN'T
> BELIEVE that these people can't smell the drugs on her!
Can you smell heroin?
Kathryn Bassett
On 4/1/97 6:14PM, in message <3341C1...@worldnet.att.net>, Justene Adamec
<Jus...@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
It was a joint that was laced w/heroin, so they should be able to smell the
joint.
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Kathleen Lenkeit
In <3341C1...@worldnet.att.net> Justene Adamec
<Jus...@worldnet.att.net> writes:
>
>MrnLibn wrote:
>>Right after Emily and Monica left the room - Monica went to
>>Emily's room with her to talk - and I just CAN'T BELIEVE that
>>these people can't smell the drugs on her!
>
>Can you smell heroin?
I honestly don't know if you can smell heroin, but marijuana
certainly has a disctinctive odor, and Emily smoked a joint
that had some heroin in it. At the very least, someone should
have been able to smell the grass...
Kathleen <didn't notice any spray cans of Ozium in Emily's hand>
KarenLaRae
MrnLibn wrote: Right after Emily and Monica left
> > the room - Monica went to Emily's room with her to talk - and I just
CAN'T
> > BELIEVE that these people can't smell the drugs on her!
>
place ...
why could we SEE it. There have been at least eight flashbacks to date
this week (between Monday and Thursday), so it's notlike there wasn't
time.
Karen L
**ToMMy GirL**
I think that the writers are being very unrealistic about this drug ordeal
because there's NO WAY that they can't smell the drugs!!! C'MON!!! it's
a strong smell and for Alan to hug and kiss her when she walked in totally
surprised me that he didn't notice a strong odor!!! I was for sure he
would mention something about the strong smoke smell. Well this in my
opinion......we'll see what happens.
Lisa P.
Kathleen Lenkeit
In <Pine.OSF.3.95q.97040...@mason2.gmu.edu> **ToMMy
GirL** <lp...@osf1.gmu.edu> writes:
>
>On 4 Apr 1997, KarenLaRae wrote:
>
>>MrnLibn wrote: Right after Emily and Monica left
>>>>the room - Monica went to Emily's room with her to talk - and I
>>>>just CAN'T BELIEVE that these people can't smell the drugs on her!
>>>
>>I can't believe that we were TOLD this conversation was going to take
>>place ... why could we SEE it. There have been at least eight
>>flashbacks to date this week (between Monday and Thursday), so it's
>>notlike there wasn't time.
>
>ordeal because there's NO WAY that they can't smell the drugs!!!
>C'MON!!! it's a strong smell and for Alan to hug and kiss her when
>she walked in totally surprised me that he didn't notice a strong
>odor!!! I was for sure he would mention something about the strong
>smoke smell. Well this in my opinion......we'll see what happens.
<butting in with my opinion> Yes, the marijuana *does*
have a distinctive odor, but it's not always necessarily
strong... it depends on the quality of the weed.
Additionally, unless you've been TOLD that what you are
smelling is marijuana, you would have no way of knowing
what any particular smell is, outside of having experienced
it first hand. Monica is a cardiologist, so she wouldn't
normally come in contact with people who have been smoking
pot. Alan is an internist, which would give him better
odds than Monica, but still low probability of pot smoking
contacts through his profession, and both of them have a
negligible probability of personal contact.
So, it's quite likely that both Alan and Monica smelled
*something,* but they just didn't know what it was, and
didn't suspect that she was into drugs.
Kathleen
Amy Elizabeth Mcwilliams
Kathleen Lenkeit (klen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
:
: Additionally, unless you've been TOLD that what you are
: what any particular smell is, outside of having experienced
: it first hand. Monica is a cardiologist, so she wouldn't
: normally come in contact with people who have been smoking
: pot. Alan is an internist, which would give him better
: odds than Monica, but still low probability of pot smoking
: contacts through his profession, and both of them have a
: negligible probability of personal contact.
You don't think Alan and Monica smoked pot at some point, or were at least
around it? ;) Even I know what it smells like, sweet little Southern
Baptist girl that I am. And I think anyone who's gone to a major arena
concert would know. Not that Alan and Monica would ever have done
that....
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In <5i7g5v$9...@news.tamu.edu> aem...@scully.tamu.edu (Amy Elizabeth
Mcwilliams) writes:
>
>Kathleen Lenkeit (klen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>:
>: Additionally, unless you've been TOLD that what you are
>: smelling is marijuana, you would have no way of knowing
>: what any particular smell is, outside of having experienced
>: it first hand. Monica is a cardiologist, so she wouldn't
>: normally come in contact with people who have been smoking
>: pot. Alan is an internist, which would give him better
>: odds than Monica, but still low probability of pot smoking
>: contacts through his profession, and both of them have a
>: negligible probability of personal contact.
>
>You don't think Alan and Monica smoked pot at some point, or were at
>least around it? ;) Even I know what it smells like, sweet little
>Southern Baptist girl that I am. And I think anyone who's gone to a
>major arena concert would know. Not that Alan and Monica would ever
>have done that....
<memories of a Jimi Hendrix concert at the LA Shrine
Auditorium in 1967 [or was it '68?] come flooding back>
No, I really don't think Alan and Monica ever smoked pot!
I think they would have been more likely to have snorted
coke, or taken 'Ludes...
You say that "even you" know what pot smells like... but
did you just automatically know what you were smelling
the first time you smelled it, or did you say, "what's
that smell?" And, if you somehow just knew what it was,
what were the circumstances surrounding the event? For
example, if you were at a 'major arena concert' and you
smelled something new and a bit odd, it would be a fairly
safe guess to assume it was pot. Or if you went somewhere
with some friends, and you knew they got loaded, you'd be
safe to assume the smelly cloud surrounding them was pot
as they returned after a trip to the restroom. But if you
were talking to a family member who had, up until then,
always been a sweet, innocent child, you'd have little
reason to assume what you were smelling was actually an
illegal drug, rather than some new, weird perfume that all
the kids are wearing these days.
I can remember when I had my own real estate appraisal
business and I was training someone to be a residential
appraiser. We did an inspection of someone's home, and
when I was discussing the things for which I would add or
subtract value, I made the comment, "Gee, I don't know if
I should add a couple thousand dollars for the cannabis
plant in the back yard or not..." The trainee was utterly
and completely shocked. Now this was a person whom I
*know* had experience with pot, but she had just never
seen a "live" plant before, so when faced with one, she
just assumed it was just another pretty plant in the yard.
And that's how I think of Alan and Monica. Neither AJ
nor Jason has ever been into drugs, so Alan and Monica
don't have any real-life, firsthand experience to fall
back on in their dealings with Emily. There's nothing
in their memory banks that would trigger "oh my god my
kid is using drugs" when they smelled this new, odd odor.
Kathleen
California Norton's
Kathleen Lenkeit wrote:
>
> In <5i7g5v$9...@news.tamu.edu> aem...@scully.tamu.edu (Amy Elizabeth
> Mcwilliams) writes:
> >
> >Kathleen Lenkeit (klen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
> >:
> >: Additionally, unless you've been TOLD that what you are
> >: smelling is marijuana, you would have no way of knowing
Yep...I vouch for that. Of course there might be a clue in the way
Emily is dressing, acting, who her friend(s) are, her stumbling over
furniture and dropping her backpack.
I can't believe TPTB are writing Alan and Monica as two totally clueless
characters. Is it possible the Quartermaine's are like the British
royal family....a bit, how should I say, 'dim bulb' types????? No
wonder Edward can't turn loose the reigns of ELQ yet. He knows there
just is no real brain power among the lot.
mary b
In article <5i7lmd$s...@sjx-ixn11.ix.netcom.com>,
klen...@ix.netcom.com(Kathleen Lenkeit) wrote:
>I can remember when I had my own real estate appraisal
>business and I was training someone to be a residential
>appraiser. We did an inspection of someone's home, and
>when I was discussing the things for which I would add or
>subtract value, I made the comment, "Gee, I don't know if
>I should add a couple thousand dollars for the cannabis
>plant in the back yard or not..." The trainee was utterly
>and completely shocked.
Kathleen, if it was an especially healthy looking plant, I would've
added at least a couple of thousand for the good soil conditions
alone.
mary
mary b
In article <5i71od$p...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>,
klen...@ix.netcom.com(Kathleen Lenkeit) wrote:
other people wrote:
>>>>>the room - Monica went to Emily's room with her to talk - and I
>>>>>just CAN'T BELIEVE that these people can't smell the drugs on her!
>>
>>I think that the writers are being very unrealistic about this drug
>>ordeal because there's NO WAY that they can't smell the drugs!!!
>>C'MON!!! it's a strong smell and for Alan to hug and kiss her when
>>she walked in totally surprised me that he didn't notice a strong
>>odor!!! I was for sure he would mention something about the strong
>>smoke smell. Well this in my opinion......we'll see what happens.
>
><butting in with my opinion> Yes, the marijuana *does*
>have a distinctive odor, but it's not always necessarily
>strong... it depends on the quality of the weed.
<and mine> Also, consider that Em was smoking in the great
outdoors, where there's less chance of the odor seeping
into her clothes and staying there. It's not like they
were in a Yugo with all the windows rolled up.
mary
Isi
> You don't think Alan and Monica smoked pot at some point, or were at least
> around it? ;) Even I know what it smells like, sweet little Southern
> Baptist girl that I am. And I think anyone who's gone to a major arena
> concert would know. Not that Alan and Monica would ever have done
> that....
Good points, Amy, but to this I would add the most obvious. They're *doctors*
for heaven's sake. Wouldn't they have had to learn the basics about drugs in
medical school, and during an ER rotation???? I'm a fourth grade teacher, and I
had to take a 3 credit class just on recognizing drugs and their effects on
people. (You know all those ten-year-old drug users :^) - not entirely out of
the question, though...it has happened.).
Of course A & M know what pot smells like.
Isi
FGC Stefan
Allynn Wilkinson
Kathleen, I've *got* to disagree with you on this one! I've never
smoked pot but my sainted 65 year old mother knows *exactly* what it
smells like! How? Oh I don't know... she just *does*.
I would bet that Monica had tried pot in college (though perhaps Alan
never did). And I'm *sure* Traci or some of her disreputable boyfriends
would have got quite a kick out of smoking it under Lila and Edward's
noses! This is the 1990s (not the 1950s)! There is *no way* that I'm
going to believe that two middle aged *doctors* don't know what marijuna
smells like!
Now I *do* understand your comment about 'context' and that they
wouldn't *expect* Emily to smell like pot so maybe they wouldn't make
the connection the first few times but they *really* should suspect
something by now! And what about Nedly? Surely (as a *rock singer*) he
would know what pot smells like!!!
I can only assume that the writers are planning on playing up the whole
angle that the Q's were just too wrapped up in their own problems to
notice Em's. Or perhaps that pain medication Alan is taking is
affecting his olfactory senses!
Allynn
Kathleen Lenkeit
In <5i8hd8$f2...@saganaga.computerpro.com> Isi
<moms...@cp.duluth.mn.us> writes:
McAmy had written:
>>You don't think Alan and Monica smoked pot at some point, or were
>>at least around it? ;) Even I know what it smells like, sweet
>>little Southern Baptist girl that I am. And I think anyone who's
>>gone to a major arena concert would know. Not that Alan and Monica
>>would ever have done that....
>
>Good points, Amy, but to this I would add the most obvious. They're
>*doctors* for heaven's sake. Wouldn't they have had to learn the
>basics about drugs in medical school, and during an ER rotation????
Learning the basics about drugs in medical school, and/or
during ER rotation, still does not teach anyone to know
or recognize the *smell* of marijuana or of any other drug.
Knowing the effects of marijuana use, and knowing how to
treat a heroin overdose, are vastly different than knowing
what that smell is...
>I'm a fourth grade teacher, and I had to take a 3 credit class just
>on recognizing drugs and their effects on people. (You know all those
>ten-year-old drug users :^) - not entirely out of the question,
>though...it has happened.).
That's exactly the point. Drug use in elementary schools
is on the rise. It's a sad fact. It's important for the
teachers to be able to recognize the effects. However, did
you, during this training you had to take, have an opportunity
to smell a burning joint? Unless the course was taught by
a law enforcement official, it's doubtful there were any
joints around to even look at, much less smell. And dry pot,
in leaf form or rolled into a joint, does not smell the same
as pot when it is burning.
Teachers have to be aware at all times when around students.
You have to be aware of possible drug use as well as the
possibility of the students carrying weapons. I have the
utmost admiration for anyone who has the guts to be a
teacher these days.
However, doctors, although they always carry their medical
knowledge and expertise in their heads, don't always have
to be in "ready to save lives" mode when away from their
office or the hospital. Yes, if an emergency occurs they
can spring into action in an instant, but in everyday life
they don't have to think about what stitch is best to use
when tying off a bleeder. So, when they are in their own
home, interacting with their own family members, they
aren't "on alert" for possible drug use.
>Of course A & M know what pot smells like.
I still don't think so.
Kathleen
Kathryn Bassett
Re: someone who's never smelled it before not being able to recognize pot.
The first time I ever smelled it, I knew right away what it was - because of
the description. "Sickeningly sweet". Smelled it, it fit the description, and I
knew that's what it had to be. Asked someone and found out I was right. So...
Alan and Monica should have known.
Kathleen Lenkeit
In <N.040697....@lax-ca18-15.ix.netcom.com>
kath...@ix.netcom.com (Kathryn Bassett) writes:
>
>Re: someone who's never smelled it before not being able to recognize
>pot.
>
>The first time I ever smelled it, I knew right away what it was -
>because of the description. "Sickeningly sweet". Smelled it, it fit
>the description, and I knew that's what it had to be. Asked someone
>and found out I was right. So... Alan and Monica should have known.
I know the "sickeningly sweet" moniker is used a lot, but
having had firsthand experience (hey, I'm pretty old, you
know -- I was a flower child in the '60s), I don't think
the "sickeningly sweet" description is really accurate.
It's a very distinctive smell, yes, but I don't think it's
a 'sweet' smell, much less 'sickeningly sweet.'
Kathleen
Amy Elizabeth Mcwilliams
Kathleen Lenkeit (klen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
:
: >Of course A & M know what pot smells like.
:
: I still don't think so.
Ok, I hesitated at contributing again to what's become a huge discussion
about a minor point, but I think that minor point was that even if they
smelled something they couldn't identify, they've never mentioned smelling
anything at all.
Jeremy
Kathleen Lenkeit <klen...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>I know the "sickeningly sweet" moniker is used a lot, but
>having had firsthand experience (hey, I'm pretty old, you
>know -- I was a flower child in the '60s), I don't think
>the "sickeningly sweet" description is really accurate.
>It's a very distinctive smell, yes, but I don't think it's
>a 'sweet' smell, much less 'sickeningly sweet.'
The first time I smelled the stuff I knew what it was because I knew
what the people were smoking. I was at my friend's house and his brother
was in his room with his friends and they were smoking it.
When my mom came to pick me up she smelled it on me before I even closed
the car door. And I wasn't even in the closed-up room where it was being
smoked.
She was far from being a flower-child either; in fact, she told me, when
she and my dad were living in DC during the Vietnam War, they saw a
protest on the Mall, and wondered what all these strange people were
talking about. :)
--
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Kathleen Lenkeit
In <5i9mv7$p...@news.tamu.edu> aem...@scully.tamu.edu (Amy Elizabeth
Mcwilliams) writes:
>
>Kathleen Lenkeit (klen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>:
>: >Of course A & M know what pot smells like.
>:
>: I still don't think so.
>
>Ok, I hesitated at contributing again to what's become a huge
>discussion about a minor point, but I think that minor point was that
>even if they smelled something they couldn't identify, they've never
>mentioned smelling anything at all.
Aw, come on, McAmy, at least it's a discussion that has
nothing to do with whether or not Leslie Horan can act
or Richard Culliton can write; or whether or not Stefan
and Katherine together turn our collective stomachs; or
whether Luke is getting erotic with Carly, Tony, and any
other person who happens to be around because he's so
horny because Laura is in Switzerland; or... or... or...
Kathleen ;-)
Amy Elizabeth Mcwilliams
Kathleen Lenkeit (klen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
:
: Aw, come on, McAmy, at least it's a discussion that has
: or Richard Culliton can write; or whether or not Stefan
: and Katherine together turn our collective stomachs; or
: whether Luke is getting erotic with Carly, Tony, and any
: other person who happens to be around because he's so
: horny because Laura is in Switzerland; or... or... or...
True, true. But I still say they could put two and two together and get
pot.
So what you're saying is I just need to find a way to happen to be around?
;)
Kathleen Lenkeit
In <5ia3c2$4...@news.tamu.edu> aem...@scully.tamu.edu (Amy Elizabeth
Mcwilliams) writes:
>
>Kathleen Lenkeit (klen...@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>:
>: Aw, come on, McAmy, at least it's a discussion that has
>: nothing to do with whether or not Leslie Horan can act
>: or Richard Culliton can write; or whether or not Stefan
>: and Katherine together turn our collective stomachs; or
>: whether Luke is getting erotic with Carly, Tony, and any
>: other person who happens to be around because he's so
>: horny because Laura is in Switzerland; or... or... or...
>
>True, true. But I still say they could put two and two together and
>get pot.
>
>So what you're saying is I just need to find a way to happen to be
>around?
Darlin' I think you could make Luke forget to finish
his cheese fries, if only you could catch that shuttle
to Port Chuckles...
Kathleen ;-)
Adrian
klen...@ix.netcom.com(Kathleen Lenkeit) could possibly, in their
infinite wisdom, have said:
>I know the "sickeningly sweet" moniker is used a lot, but
>having had firsthand experience (hey, I'm pretty old, you
>know -- I was a flower child in the '60s), I don't think
>the "sickeningly sweet" description is really accurate.
It's more of a sickening musty smell to me, but either way, it's very
distinctive, I know if my daughter (purely theoretical folks) smelled
like that and I'd never smelled pot before, I would still ask "what
*is* that smell?" when I hugged her.
*pout*
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In <3347B8...@cyberportal.net> Allynn Wilkinson
<awi...@cyberportal.net> writes:
>
>Kathleen, I've *got* to disagree with you on this one! I've never
>smoked pot but my sainted 65 year old mother knows *exactly* what it
>smells like! How? Oh I don't know... she just *does*.
But how do you know that she *knows*? ;-)
>I would bet that Monica had tried pot in college (though perhaps Alan
>never did). And I'm *sure* Traci or some of her disreputable
>boyfriends would have got quite a kick out of smoking it under Lila
>and Edward's noses! This is the 1990s (not the 1950s)! There is *no
>way* that I'm going to believe that two middle aged *doctors* don't
>know what marijuna smells like!
I agree that Tracy no doubt got loaded all the time on
the Quartermaine property, but not necessarily around
Alan and Monica...
>Now I *do* understand your comment about 'context' and that they
>wouldn't *expect* Emily to smell like pot so maybe they wouldn't make
>the connection the first few times but they *really* should suspect
>something by now! And what about Nedly? Surely (as a *rock singer*)
>he would know what pot smells like!!!
But Ned isn't your typical rock singer. He didn't start
his singing career until he met Lois, and then he didn't
hang around with groupies - he was always with Lois. So,
I doubt Ned's career as a rock singer gave him an introduction
to pot.
>I can only assume that the writers are planning on playing up the
>whole angle that the Q's were just too wrapped up in their own
>problems to notice Em's.
I agree. That's what happens with many parents in real
life, and TPTB try to make these 'public service storylines'
real, so viewers can relate to them and learn something...
>Or perhaps that pain medication Alan is taking is
>affecting his olfactory senses!
That, too!
Kathleen
Tom Yohn
Kathleen Lenkeit wrote:
> >Now I *do* understand your comment about 'context' and that they
> >wouldn't *expect* Emily to smell like pot so maybe they wouldn't make
> >the connection the first few times but they *really* should suspect
> >something by now! And what about Nedly? Surely (as a *rock singer*)
> >he would know what pot smells like!!!
>
> But Ned isn't your typical rock singer. He didn't start
> his singing career until he met Lois, and then he didn't
> hang around with groupies - he was always with Lois. So,
> I doubt Ned's career as a rock singer gave him an introduction
> to pot.
For gosh sake's he was a teen-ager in the 70s.
'Nuf said. You didn't survive the 70s without knowing
what pot smelled like. Geez, Louise, we had a
segment in health class where policemen came in to
teach Drug Awareness and burned pot in class so
we would know what it smelled like. (Not that anyone
didn't already know... and it was the most attended
class of the year...)
Sure. There is someone somewhere who was a teen in the
70s and doesn't know what pot smelled like. And,
maybe Eddie Quartermaine is the one. But, the chances
are slim to none, especially is a prep school. Anyone
who was at least a teen ager in the 70s knows what
burning pot smells like.
toomces
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klen...@ix.netcom.com(Kathleen Lenkeit) writes:
>In <5i8hd8$f2...@saganaga.computerpro.com> Isi
><moms...@cp.duluth.mn.us> writes:
<snip>
>>Of course A & M know what pot smells like.
>I still don't think so.
Alan and Monica are of the age that they should know what
pot smells like. It was prevalent in the 60s when they were
in school.
Even if they don't know what the smell is, you would think
they might wonder about the smell eminating from Emily
to the point where they might discuss it between themselves.
They might even wonder if she's smoking cigarettes or cigars
(since everyone and their sister is smoking cigars these
days).
jan
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Angela Abbott
McAmy had written:
>>You don't think Alan and Monica smoked pot at some point, or were
>>at least around it? ;) Even I know what it smells like, sweet
>>little Southern Baptist girl that I am. And I think anyone who's
>>gone to a major arena concert would know. Not that Alan and Monica
>>would ever have done that....
>Good points, Amy, but to this I would add the most obvious. They're
>*doctors* for heaven's sake. Wouldn't they have had to learn the
>basics about drugs in medical school, and during an ER rotation????
Hi, I'm a lurker that really enjoys this group and usually I can
see most everyones point and go about my business, but this time
I have something to say.:-)
Have any of you ever dealt with a friend or family member doing
drugs? How long did it take to realize this? My guess, not the
first time or even the second time the person did it. If all parents
caught the smell we probably would not have the teen drug problem
we have today. Most don't pick up on it until its too late or the
kid tries it and isn't impressed. Most professional and non-professional
parents don't see the signs, esp. if the kid has always been a good kid
you would have no reason to suspect drugs. Even if you were
a parent who experimented with drugs as a kid you might not ever
see the signs. So, why would a fictional parent realize a child
is getting stoned?
GH has always been pretty good at being as close to RL as possible
(w/ some stories) and the drug story is not far off, IMO. Why, you
ask. There are a lot of ways to cover it up (listing a few) and
sometimes no one notices anyway.
1. Well, smoking pot outside is a fairly safe way not to smell like it,
unless your smoking some really strong pot.
2. Smoking inside can be covered up and its real easy to say a friend
was smoking a cigarette and it smelled like that. A lie yes, but
if you don't think your kid is doing drugs this sounds logical. And
you would get to give a lecture on how I hope your not smoking its
bad for you. While the kid is stoned as hell.
3. Eyes hide the red with Visine.
4. Most any strong candy like jolly ranchers green apple will
cover pot on your breath without smelling like your trying to
cover something up.
5. Not being involved with the child and even sometimes parents
who are involved still miss the signs.
It is MO that when this comes to a head Monica and Alan will blame
themselves because they were so wrapped up in their problems and AJs
that they didn't see that there was a problem.
I really don't mean to sound preachy but sometimes we are to hard
on our GH characters and the writers. If people in RL don't see
the signs why would a fictional characters be expected to.
Kathleen Lenkeit
Welcome to posting, Angela! This was excellent. You
should post more often.
What you've said, I think, is right on the money. In
reality, most parents are clueless when their kids first
begin to use drugs. In Emily's case, the friend she
hangs out with, Matt, apparently comes from a good family
because Alan (well, someone) commented that he has played
golf with Matt's father at "the club." We *know* that any
club to which the Quartermaines belong is a pricey club,
indeed, so we can assume that Matt's family is far from
destitute. If Emily were hanging out with lowlifes, Alan
and Monica would be more inclined to be suspicious of her
behavior and activities. But, they are thinking that she
is associating with someone from a "good family," so they
have no reason to be suspicious.
I think the point TPTB are trying to get across to parents
everywhere is that you can't just assume that your kid is
not doing anything wrong -- you have to actively participate
in your child's life. Alan and Monica are too quick to
dismiss Emily, because they are too wrapped up in themselves
and what's going on in their own lives. They've got to
realize that Emily needs more attention from them, because
she was used to being the center of attention of Page's life.
A child left to its own devices gets bored, and bored kids
are easily influenced by others to do things they normally
wouldn't do...
Alan and Monica are in for a rude awakening, and a major
shock to their systems.
Kathleen
Angela Abbott
From: klen...@ix.netcom.com(Kathleen Lenkeit)
Date: 7 Apr 1997 22:48:00 GMT
>Welcome to posting, Angela! This was excellent. You
>should post more often.
Thank you. I'm glad someone respond, with a positive
response. I'm sure I'll be posting more often, esp.
with a DTR going on so many memories and emotions
are being relived. A DTR (AMC) has been a little
disappointing for me so far because I was looking forward
to seeing Billy Clyde (the actor was great in the role &
he was a true bad guy). It just seems they are leaving
out some of the best stuff, just like GH isn't suppose
to show the day that Anna tied Robert up and did the
little dance that was a great show. Wow, did I get off
the subject, Sorry!
>What you've said, I think, is right on the money. In
>reality, most parents are clueless when their kids first
>begin to use drugs. In Emily's case, the friend she
>hangs out with, Matt, apparently comes from a good family
>because Alan (well, someone) commented that he has played
>golf with Matt's father at "the club." We *know* that any
>club to which the Quartermaines belong is a pricey club,
>indeed, so we can assume that Matt's family is far from
>destitute. If Emily were hanging out with lowlifes, Alan
>and Monica would be more inclined to be suspicious of her
>behavior and activities. But, they are thinking that she
>is associating with someone from a "good family," so they
>have no reason to be suspicious.
Speaking of friends where is Lucky in her life now? They
were real close and now nothing. I know she was probably
upset about his Mom playing dead but I would think he
would see the kids she was running around with at school
and still be giving her the riot act wheter she wanted
to her what he had to say or not. He is a Spencer.
>I think the point TPTB are trying to get across to parents
>everywhere is that you can't just assume that your kid is
>not doing anything wrong -- you have to actively participate
>in your child's life. Alan and Monica are too quick to
>dismiss Emily, because they are too wrapped up in themselves
>and what's going on in their own lives. They've got to
>realize that Emily needs more attention from them, because
>she was used to being the center of attention of Page's life.
Exactly.
>A child left to its own devices gets bored, and bored kids
>are easily influenced by others to do things they normally
>wouldn't do...
Oh, how true.
>Alan and Monica are in for a rude awakening, and a major
>shock to their systems.
>Kathleen
No doubt. One kid is an alcoholic, one that doesn't know
them and a druggie. What failures they're gonna feel like.
I feel sorry for them, rocky marriage since the beginning
and now they have childern who are not perfect.
Angela
Teresa Barton
In article <5i71od$p...@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com>, klen...@ix.netcom.co says...
>
>In <Pine.OSF.3.95q.97040...@mason2.gmu.edu> **ToMMy
>GirL** <lp...@osf1.gmu.edu> writes:
>>
>>On 4 Apr 1997, KarenLaRae wrote:
>>
>>>MrnLibn wrote: Right after Emily and Monica left
>>>>>just CAN'T BELIEVE that these people can't smell the drugs on her!
>>>>
>>>place ... why could we SEE it. There have been at least eight
>>>flashbacks to date this week (between Monday and Thursday), so it's
>>>notlike there wasn't time.
>>
>>ordeal because there's NO WAY that they can't smell the drugs!!!
>>C'MON!!! it's a strong smell and for Alan to hug and kiss her when
>>she walked in totally surprised me that he didn't notice a strong
>>odor!!! I was for sure he would mention something about the strong
>>smoke smell. Well this in my opinion......we'll see what happens.
>
><butting in with my opinion> Yes, the marijuana *does*
>have a distinctive odor, but it's not always necessarily
>strong... it depends on the quality of the weed.
>
>smelling is marijuana, you would have no way of knowing
>it first hand. Monica is a cardiologist, so she wouldn't
>normally come in contact with people who have been smoking
>pot. Alan is an internist, which would give him better
>odds than Monica, but still low probability of pot smoking
>contacts through his profession, and both of them have a
>negligible probability of personal contact.
>
>*something,* but they just didn't know what it was, and
>didn't suspect that she was into drugs.
>
>Kathleen
I just have to step in here. Maybe Alan and Monica didn't know
it was pot they smelled, but when I was Em's age if I came home
smelling like anything I was questioned. Not that my parents
thought I was smoking, but because they wanted to know who I was
around that was. (might be a bad influence) Of course my parents
were more attentive than the Qs, but then again, who isn't. <g>
Teresa
JIM REA
> should post more often.
>
> reality, most parents are clueless when their kids first
> begin to use drugs. In Emily's case, the friend she
> hangs out with, Matt, apparently comes from a good family
> because Alan (well, someone) commented that he has played
> golf with Matt's father at "the club." We *know* that any
> club to which the Quartermaines belong is a pricey club,
> indeed, so we can assume that Matt's family is far from
> destitute. If Emily were hanging out with lowlifes, Alan
> and Monica would be more inclined to be suspicious of her
> behavior and activities. But, they are thinking that she
> is associating with someone from a "good family," so they
> have no reason to be suspicious.
>
> everywhere is that you can't just assume that your kid is
> not doing anything wrong -- you have to actively participate
> in your child's life. Alan and Monica are too quick to
> dismiss Emily, because they are too wrapped up in themselves
> and what's going on in their own lives. They've got to
> realize that Emily needs more attention from them, because
> she was used to being the center of attention of Page's life.
> are easily influenced by others to do things they normally
> wouldn't do...
>
> shock to their systems.
>
> Kathleen
& M being practicing doctors should notice other tell-tale signs of E's
drug use - radical personality changes. Even if you don't smell the
smells or see the eyes they should at least notice the personality
changes. - Just MO - Breezy
Roser
Whether Alan and Monica would or should know what pot smells like,
I think the point is that they just aren't paying attention to Emily.
When she first started using, she was quite paranoid about being
caught (like when she dumped the bottle of patchouli on herself to
cover the pot odor). But the longer she goes on using without
getting caught, the more reckless she becomes, perhaps because on
some level she's testing Monica and Alan. And they are just not
paying attention. At this point, I think Emily could snort lines
off the silver croissant tray during a Q-family breakfast and no one
would notice.
Roser
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> At this point, I think Emily could snort lines
>off the silver croissant tray during a Q-family breakfast and no one
>would notice.
LOL! Put this right up there with the image of Lila's crystal bong!
What next... Edward smoking a hash pipe while reading the evening
paper? (Hmmm, I wonder if they'll draw this out 'til Thanksgiving...)
Call Me Clyde
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Patt B.
sturd...@aol.com wrote:
>
> In article <nospam-mccoy-ya0234...@news.ziplink.net>, nospam...@ziplink.net (Roser) writes:
>
> > At this point, I think Emily could snort lines
> >off the silver croissant tray during a Q-family breakfast and no one
> >would notice.
>
> LOL! Put this right up there with the image of Lila's crystal bong!
> What next... Edward smoking a hash pipe while reading the evening
> paper? (Hmmm, I wonder if they'll draw this out 'til Thanksgiving...)
If they do draw it out till Thanksgiving, this year they can order
sausage and magic mushroom pizza when their turkey dinner goes awry.
patt.
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Teresa Barton wrote:
> I just have to step in here. Maybe Alan and Monica didn't know
> it was pot they smelled, but when I was Em's age if I came home
> smelling like anything I was questioned. Not that my parents
> thought I was smoking, but because they wanted to know who I was
> around that was. (might be a bad influence) Of course my parents
> were more attentive than the Qs, but then again, who isn't. <g>
I'm not sure about the Q's being attentive, but naive and trusting when
it comes to Emily. Countless times we've seen various family members,
from Ned and AJ to Monica and Alan, ask Emily if she's okay, how school
is, if she's dealing with the bad press/publicity okay...and they
believe her when she says she's fine. But what they don't understand is
that she's a teenager! What else is she going to say? At that age I
didn't want to talk to my parents about anything either! I think
somewhere inside they know that all this stuff is bothering her, but
they naively believe that Emily can handle it...and she can't. And even
though Alan can't handle the the scandal and is turning to pills, AJ
can't handle the dissapointement and pressure and turned to alcohol,
they're still going to be surprised about Emily? Oh those dysfunctional
Q's..how can you not love them?
Mala
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Meredyth Purdy
jlcfa...@aol.com (JLCfan2613) wrote:
>I just saw Tristan Rogers on the soap "The Bold and the Beautiful"! Glad
>to see him back because I remember all of the hoopla when he left GH.
>He's playing a private investigator. His accent seems almost gone.
Private investigator....hmmmm....must be quite a stretch! ;)
Mer
JLCfan2613
I just saw Tristan Rogers on the soap "The Bold and the Beautiful"! Glad
to see him back because I remember all of the hoopla when he left GH.
He's playing a private investigator. His accent seems almost gone.
http://members.aol.com/JLCfan2613/jlcfan.htm
Jean LeClerc, please come back!
SunsetMEB
He looks and sounds greats! He is also on the show for a short time! So I
hope all enjoy. I know I am!
CAGirlNow
>>>He looks and sounds greats! He is also on the show for a short time! So
I hope all enjoy. I know I am!<<<
I am too! Hunter seems to get better every day he's on. If you haven't
already peeked, the it's worth checking out.
C