On Jan 12, 3:41 pm, Seth J. Bookey <
sethb...@panix.com> wrote:
> Also, just because they worked well at OLTL doesn't mean
> Valentini and Carlavati will do as well at GH.
This is an excellent point, and it would be rather definitive if the
creative team at GH that they were replacing were working well. But
from all reports (I've only been able to watch two episodes, plus
snippets of others), JFP plus Garin Wolf was even worse than JFP plus
Guza, which was awful enough. So what's there to lose, really, by
giving Valentini and Carlivati--coming off of an extremely successful
year at OLTL--a try?
> I recall that Lorraine Broderick, who was so great as HW at AMC,
> was reviled by many OLTL fans when she was HW there. I recall vividly, before Malone came back, a ratsa fan
> shrieking, "FUCK YOU LORRAINE BRODERICK!" due to some storylines involving Natalie and Mitch right before Malone
> returned.
That's because LB's work on OLTL was pretty awful (and her work on
ATWT was even worse). She really seems to have been able to work magic
only at AMC. I can think of other instances of HWs whose work seemed
to mesh extremely well on one show in particular and to be unable to
translate that success into work on another show (as well as a bunch
who never really seemed to be successful anywhere but kept getting
hired anyway). What I think is particularly of concern in this case is
that Valentini has spent the majority of his career at OLTL, and if
I'm remembering correctly, Carlivati's entire soap writing career has
been at OLTL. How much of their success was because of their strong
history with OLTL? But as I said, it's not as though they're replacing
a successful team at GH. There's certainly a risk, but was it any
greater than the risk of sticking with a team that clearly was not
working, or with hiring, as replacements, any other combination of the
usual suspects who are on the market?
> However, this move it will have to piss off GH fans who didn't watch OLTL.
Which I can see. I think they should wait to see whose screen time
gets taken, though. If ABC is smart, they'll dump some of the
incipient storylines and characters that haven't taken off and give
the Mannings their screen time.
What I think is a bigger concern is how V and C are going to mesh
these characters so strongly identified with OLTL, which has a very
different style and feel, with the dark, misogynistic, dysfunction-
riddled, depressing, bleak, grim world that GH has been for a decade
or so (and especially in the last five years). I'd argue that GH can
use some serious lightening up, which V and C could give it, but I'm
not sure loyal GH fans--especially those who've loved the last decade
or so, and they definitely exist--would agree with me. I'm guessing
that's what V and C have planned--more humor, less relentless
grimness--as it's been their trademark at OLTL, and I'm guessing that
if I'm right about that, that may end up being a bigger hurdle for
(some) GH fans than the screen time the Mannings get.
But then, there's another audience out there: the ones who have
stopped watching over the last decade or so. They may actually welcome
such a change in tone and focus--if they can be lured back.
> PERSONALLY, if I was running things, I would have cut OLTL and GH down to a half hour each, and put Frank V in
> charge of both shows, and gotten a much better writer for GH and kept Carlavati on as HW at OLTL. I don't think
> one HW could do double duty, even if the shows were cut down to 30 minutes.
It might have been interesting, under your scenario, to see what
Valentini and Guza could have done with GH. I remember Guza doing good
work in the 90s when Wendy Riche was the EP.
> Idiot Brian Frons was quoted as saying he wanted to "merge" AMC and OLTL. I don't think that would work. Cutting
> them into 30 minutes couldhave, but no one seemed to want that.
And I so wonder why not. It seems to me that should have been a
logical step that was considered/tried in the case of many cancelled
hour-long soaps, before cancelling them.
Michael