GH: Brenda's regression
Shel
I don't ever post, really, but the time has come.
I'm really torn on this whole Brenda issue. Her behavior over Sonny
reminds me of the time when she was in love with Jagger. Remember how
awful she was to Karen? Nude photos of Karen, Lily's wedding
dress--anyone see the similarities? There was a little while when I was
so happy that Brenda had snapped out of her childish ways--I had hated
her character for so long and it was nice to be able to enjoy her scenes.
But now?? It seems she has regressed. This whole mess has brought her
right back into being a jealous child who feels so unloved and rejected
(first her dad, now Sonny) that she thinks she can get away with acting
like a brat. Hey, negative attention is still attention right? I hope
that TPTB let her move on. Maybe she should go back to college, eh?
Riley
In article <3187FA...@fas.harvard.edu>
this correctly. If not, I apologize in advance.
I agree with your statements above, except I don't think she belongs back
in college. I happen to be in college and have never acted that badly. I
think she should just start acting like the grown woman that she is supposed
to be. I'm not quite sure how I would feel about a Brenda/Jax thing, but I
do think that he would force her to grow up. They can make him a nice guy as
long as they don't let him become a doormat. Just something I have been
thinking about as I have been doing my latest predictions of what is going to
happen. TTFN--Riley (LMT9...@UConnvm.UConn.Edu)
G. Wells
hello out there fellow ratsans
but.... it is these types of comments that make me want to EXPLODE!!!!!
first of all Brenda IS NOT REGRESSING IN THE LEAST BIT
and I want to explain this CORRECT theory.
number 1, If you KNEW that the man you loved , loved you back but you
didn't know why he wouldn't just explain to you what in the HELL was going
on...wouldn't you do everything in your power to do something about it?
IF NOT THEN I THINK THAT IT'S STUPID NOT TO EVEN TRY WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU
ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY KNOW THAT THIS MAN, "YOUR MAN" STILL LOVES YOU
number 2, Just because Brenda is doing everything in her power to try
and reestablish the connection that she and Sonny once shared,(AND STILL DO)
I do not believe that she should get "ragged" on about it.
her motto is: "Just becuz he won't/"can't open up to me DOES NOT MEAN, BY
ANY MEANS THAT "I" WILL STOP TRYING (to get him to open up-AND PERHAPS
TELL ME THE TRUTH)!!!!
and I totally agree!
I applaud her actions..................TELL ME--How many of you would be
willing to put your "PRIDE" on the line, to prove to the man of your
dreams,heart,desires, everything that is anything, that you love him
unconditionally?................huh?...............well then?
for all of you who don't know the answer to that question, and are
consistent with namecalling and totally "MISUNDERSTANDING" brenda's
motives then as
..................FGC BRENDA
.................."keeper" of her DESIRE FOR SONNY
I'm telling you to BACK OFF NOW!!!!
ANY COMMENTS: gwe...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (you know what to do)
Rose Marie Delckum
G. Wells (gwe...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu) wrote:
: hello out there fellow ratsans
: but.... it is these types of comments that make me want to EXPLODE!!!!!
: first of all Brenda IS NOT REGRESSING IN THE LEAST BIT
: and I want to explain this CORRECT theory.
Errrr.... just as a point of order, I would like to point
out that this is not the correct theory, it's just your theory.
Even though I'm always right, even I don't say out loud that
my theories are the correct theories. That's just a given :-)
:-) :-) :-) :-) (hey, it's a joke! Hold the rotten tomatoes!!!)
: number 1, If you KNEW that the man you loved , loved you back but you
: didn't know why he wouldn't just explain to you what in the HELL was going
: on...wouldn't you do everything in your power to do something about it?
: IF NOT THEN I THINK THAT IT'S STUPID NOT TO EVEN TRY WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU
: ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY KNOW THAT THIS MAN, "YOUR MAN" STILL LOVES YOU
But love just isn't everything. Sonny has told Brenda
repeatedly that the problem is one of trust. He cannot trust
her. She knows this, and she has done nothing to show that
she can be trusted. In fact, she has reinforced the fact that
she can't be trusted with her constant manipulations and
juvenile schemes. Love isn't enough, especially for someone
like Sonny who values loyalty and trust more.
: number 2, Just because Brenda is doing everything in her power to try
: and reestablish the connection that she and Sonny once shared,(AND STILL DO)
: I do not believe that she should get "ragged" on about it.
: her motto is: "Just becuz he won't/"can't open up to me DOES NOT MEAN, BY
: ANY MEANS THAT "I" WILL STOP TRYING (to get him to open up-AND PERHAPS
: TELL ME THE TRUTH)!!!!
What truth? It appears that all she's trying to do is
forget the past and get back into bed with him. As Sonny pointed
out (and he's obviously finally been listening to me), Brenda
only hears what she wants to hear. She lives in a fantasy world.
To her, this is like some movie, with Brenda as the love-struck
heroine. She hasn't tried to seriously deal with issues, she
just wants to gloss over the myriad problems. Sonny knows
that he loves her, but he is realistic enough to realize that
it won't work. Now it might with intense therapy for both
parties, but for Sonny that just isn't an option.
: and I totally agree!
: I applaud her actions..................TELL ME--How many of you would be
: willing to put your "PRIDE" on the line, to prove to the man of your
: dreams,heart,desires, everything that is anything, that you love him
: unconditionally?................huh?...............well then?
Er, I'd have to say my answer would be no. Sorry.
I don't love unconditionally. I'm too complicated for
that :-) And Brenda doesn't love unconditionally either.
If her love is so unconditional, why did she spend almost
6 months happily having sex with Miguel and working hard
to put Sonny in prison and take everything away from
him? If her love is unconditional, why did she have so
many strings? Nope, Brenda's love (which I think is
not the correct word for what Brenda feels toward Sonny)
is extremely conditional. As long as he lives up to her
fantasy image of him, she loves him. But when he proves
to be a flesh and blood human being who exists outside her
fantasy and is actually tarnished, then she withholds her
love.
: for all of you who don't know the answer to that question, and are
: consistent with namecalling and totally "MISUNDERSTANDING" brenda's
: motives then as
: ..................FGC BRENDA
: .................."keeper" of her DESIRE FOR SONNY
: I'm telling you to BACK OFF NOW!!!!
I guess since my answer was "no", I don't have to
back off then. Cool. Not that I would ever give up
bashing BrainDead. It's like waving a red cape...
And I would never let my anonymous fan club think they
won :-)
Roo, who thinks that Brenda is past needing therapy and
is into rubber room time...
--
"Yesterday upon the stair Rose M. Delckum
I saw a man who wasn't there rmde...@starbase.spd.louisville.edu
He wasn't there again today rmd...@ukcc.uky.edu
I think he's from the CIA."
IshtarLHP
>: I applaud her actions..TELL ME--How many of you would be
>: dreams,heart,desires, everything that is anything, that you love him
>: unconditionally?
hang-up of mine, but I think that I might find it a little difficult to
stay in a relationship with someone whose business dealings have the side
effect of getting one shot at while partaking of a shower. And the
constant secrecy thing is a problem, too. And lets take a leap into dream
land and pretend that Sonny married Lilly just to protect Brenda, which he
didn't. I think that the fidelity issue might tend to bother me, no
matter how great and undying OUR LOVE might be. Face it, the man is
having sex with his wife, night after night, and that does create a bond
of sorts. Its a trust thing, and I don't think that I would want to
revive a relationship with someone who has repeatedly said that he doesn't
trust me; or for that matter why would I want to be in a relationship with
someone who I can't trust?
End the SIDAR NOW!!!
Isht...@aol.com
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Trustee, FOC The Ficus
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Jamie
"G. Wells" <gwe...@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu> wrote:
>number 1, If you KNEW that the man you loved , loved you back but you
>didn't know why he wouldn't just explain to you what in the HELL was going
>on...wouldn't you do everything in your power to do something about it?
>IF NOT THEN I THINK THAT IT'S STUPID NOT TO EVEN TRY WHEN YOU KNOW, YOU
>ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY KNOW THAT THIS MAN, "YOUR MAN" STILL LOVES YOU
>number 2, Just because Brenda is doing everything in her power to try
>and reestablish the connection that she and Sonny once shared,(AND STILL DO)
>I do not believe that she should get "ragged" on about it.
>her motto is: "Just becuz he won't/"can't open up to me DOES NOT MEAN, BY
>ANY MEANS THAT "I" WILL STOP TRYING (to get him to open up-AND PERHAPS
>TELL ME THE TRUTH)!!!!
>and I totally agree!
> I applaud her actions..................TELL ME--How many of you would be
>willing to put your "PRIDE" on the line, to prove to the man of your
>dreams,heart,desires, everything that is anything, that you love him
>unconditionally?................huh?...............well then?
>for all of you who don't know the answer to that question, and are
>consistent with namecalling and totally "MISUNDERSTANDING" brenda's
>motives then as
>..................FGC BRENDA
>.................."keeper" of her DESIRE FOR SONNY
>I'm telling you to BACK OFF NOW!!!!
First of all, chill-off. It's a tv show, remember? <G>
OK, that said, I still disagree with you. This isn't healthy and it
isn't a show of true love, loyalty, strength, etc.
Personal story: 5 years ago I was engaged to a man that lived in LA
(I'm in Phoenix). We had many mutual friends, talked about having
children together, had planned education/career choices for the
upcoming few years, etc. This was (I thought then) the love of my
life. I was happier than I'd ever been.
Then, he stopped taking my phone calls. Refused to explain what was
going on. Stopped visiting and didn't want me to visit either.
After months of confusion, I called him and left word I was gonna
drive to LA over a particular weekend. No return call. I went
anyway.
He went to Fresno for the weekend.
Hah! Talk about the ultimate stand-up! I drove 6 HOURS to be
stood-up for the entire weekend.
About a month later I wrote him a very angry letter. This, he
answered - he called me. I was scheduled to go to LA for another trip
the next weekend. He asked to see me and I agreed.
We spent lots of time together that weekend, by ourselves and with my
son and our friends that were also there. He insisted that I had
blown the situation out of proportion, etc. That he definately still
loved me - no question. I agreed to back off and let things slow down
for him. I thought we were gonna find our way back together, as did
our friends.
That's the last time I ever talked to him.
I still talk to his best-friend every few months. He refuses to tell
me why everything happened. He says he doesn't know, but I think he's
just keeping the secret - whatever that is.
To this day I wonder what happened.
I know he's in San Diego and could probably find him if I put my mind
to it. I may even be able to get us back together. No matter which
way you slice it, tho, I won't and can't. He hurt me too deeply. I'd
never trust him to not do it again.
If this is a sign of weakness in your eyes, so be it. I happen to
think it's a realistic and mature way of seeing the world as it is.
There's a delicate balance between idealism and realism.
Sorry for the long post, but this struck a cord.
Jamie
FOC Nora
FOC Bo Unlimited, Bo's Intuition
CEO FGC Lois Unlimited
FGB The Brownstone
Society to Eradicate the SIDAR
Robin Bradford
Poor, poor Brenda. She is sooooo misunderstood. I guess Sonny had it
all wrong when he found the wire on Brenda. Or, let's see, maybe he was
just imagining it when he caught her dripping wet with Miguel. After
all, none of this whole breakup business had anything to do with Brenda.
She never plotted with Lois, Ned and Miguel to drive Sonny completely
crazy and out of L&B. In fact, that whole scene in New York for miguel's
comcert probably never happened. IN FACT, Lily probably isn't even
married to Sonny, because Brenda never flirted outrageously with miguel.
And since she never did that, Sonny never worked overtime trying to bring
Lily to PC to get Miguel's mind off of Brenda. Whoo! All of that
rationalizing is tiring!
"My dreams are a dark place."
Sonny Corinthos
FGC'S: Sonny, Keeper of the Silver Spanish Tongue; Lily, Guardian del
guante terciopelo (Keeper of the Velvet Glove); Jason, Lighter of the
Inner Flame. MHGC Nedly, Keeper of the Designer Dishonesty Spotter,
Sonny's Other Business.
Kate/Robin in '96!!!
M...@here.com
In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960508...@libby.rbls.lib.il.us> Robin Bradford <rbra...@libby.rbls.lib.il.us> writes:
>From: Robin Bradford <rbra...@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
>Subject: Re: GH: Brenda's regression
>Date: Wed, 8 May 1996 11:52:51 -0400
Rachel S. Trefsger
On Wed, 1 May 1996, Shel wrote:
> I don't ever post, really, but the time has come.
>
> I'm really torn on this whole Brenda issue. Her behavior over Sonny
> reminds me of the time when she was in love with Jagger. Remember how
> awful she was to Karen? Nude photos of Karen, Lily's wedding
> dress--anyone see the similarities? There was a little while when I was
> so happy that Brenda had snapped out of her childish ways--I had hated
> her character for so long and it was nice to be able to enjoy her scenes.
> But now?? It seems she has regressed. This whole mess has brought her
> right back into being a jealous child who feels so unloved and rejected
> (first her dad, now Sonny) that she thinks she can get away with acting
> like a brat. Hey, negative attention is still attention right? I hope
> that TPTB let her move on. Maybe she should go back to college, eh?
>
>
You're right that Brenda has been childish on occasion lately, however, do
you not remember that burning Lily's wedding dress was an ACCIDENT!!!
All Brenda wanted to do was see it. She was a completely different person
during the Karen/Jagger time, I think she has grown up alot. I think Lois
explained Brenda's immaturity when she was talking to Jax the other day,
and explained about Brenda's childhood and everything. In any case, I
just wanted to clarify the wedding dress scenario.