GH: Tom and Justus
S. A. Wilson
Well,
Everyone seems to rag on Tom, accusing him of being manipulative,
egotistical, and a first rate rat bastard. Though today Justus
proved himself far worse. The man is a complete and utter bastard.
He is a first rate lier as well. He has been telling Simone that
the custody of Tommy and the issue of Tom staying at the Brownstone
was only an attempt to have Tom agree to the divorce. Yet today
he accused Tom of being an improper father to Tommy, he told him
to his face that he has no right raising him, and implying that
he (Justus) does. The guy has the biggest ego. He is a complete
chauvinist pig. Folks on the net accuss Tom, yet Tom never is
as down right sexist as Justus. Justus constantly tells Simone
that he will handle things with Tom, treating her like a
defenseless and ineffectual woman. Interesting Simone is always
here own person, independent and forceful with Tom, but she
is downright submissive with Justus. Tom speaks to her as
a person -- sure he is trying to ingratiate himself back in her
life, but she is smart enough to realize this -- but Justus uses
what can be construed as sexist terminology when speaking to,
and addressing her. I was NEVER impressed with Justus, but today
I really dislike the character. He is a lawyer, and the lover of
his client, his actions today were totally unprofessional.
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Ellen Kessler
like her own person. First, she let Tom convince her to let him come
back to the brownstone, afterwhich, he promptly broke his word to sign
the divorce papers, and then she let Justus talk her into playing
hardball with Tom...just as a strategy...to get him to agree to the
divorce...but no sooner than Tom does, Justus forgets their demands were
a bargaining chip and announces to Simone that Tom met all their
demands, without acknowledging that Simone never wanted sole custody of
Tommy, and doesn't care about child support either.
Justus is a self-righteous prig. I hope Simone dumps him for Tom.
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S. A. Wilson
:Couldn't agree more, Sally...except I don't think Simone has been acting
I think Justus is getting down right nasty. I sure would not want
him raising my son. And I wonder if there is not more to his
attitude than just trying to help Simone. I got the impression that
there is a little bit of prejudicism interwoven in all this. Why
doesn't he want Tom to raise Tommy, his reasoning seems really forced,
could it be that he is not too pleased that Tom is white and is raising
Tommy? Also, I have noticed that he is not quite truthful with Simone,
he lied about the conversation, Simone DEFINITELY would be ballistic
if she knew what he said to Tom about his past, about Tommy, and about
Tom's racism. Tuesday, for the first time Tom was really demoralized,
and I think for the most part not playing any games, but Justus, or
as some of us call him Wustuss sure as hell was. Even Simone seemed to
pick this up.
I think that Simone will go off with Justus, but his arrogance, and
his stiffness, and his desire to control -- he said Tom had this
need, but I think it was he; actually I think many of the qualities
he said Tom possesses he in fact possesses -- will turn her off, and
she will rue the day she left Tom. Thought by this time Tom and Filly
will have started their friendship and she will be jealous.
I much prefer Filly Tom Simone triangle, than a Tom Simone Justus
triangle. I could probably tolerate and even like Justus if an
competent actor played him, but this guy is just annoying.
Spudly--
S. A. Wilson
Madelyn Blair <made...@hooked.net> wrote:
>In article <42iml7$h...@panix.com> Ellen Kessler, e...@panix.com writes:
>
>No way. Tom is a spoiled brat and a poor loser. Simone HAS moved on,
Tom may be spoiled which I will not completely deny, but Wustuss is
a major asshole and is just as spoiled. Though the thing is that
Justus should not be seen like an asshole, but the actor playing
him just has no range what's so ever. The guy is stiff, and gives
off the air of a personal arrogance. With Tom it is part of the
character, Matthew is playing the part it is not Matt. With Justus
it seems to be Joseph.
>and Justus is the man who is **dedicated** to fufilling a commited partner
>ship with her. Justus is the winner, and BY NOW, you'd think Tom could
Oh, yeah, as long as he the one telling her what to do, what to think
and how she should live HER life. He is a chauvinistic pig. Pure and
simple. Tom is not perfect, but at least he is giving her more of
the benefit of the doubt as far as her own personhood.
>come to the realization that he can't have back what he sooo badly
>screwed up on. Just
>because it took him a rock upside the head (i.e. some big, bad experience
>in Africa) to realize that he wanted everything back to the old
That is true. And he will come to realize this is the reason he is
doing what he has been doing. At this time he will grown, and move on.
If Simone ever goes with Useless she will really rue the day. He
seems to be a MAJOR MAJOR control freak. He should not be the one
handling the divorce, but he is doing it to get back at Tom for
his own personal reasons, not for Simone or Tommy's best interests.
>days--doesn't mean that everyone else has to snap to it and follow suit.
>His so-called "love" for Simone and their child, does not
>ring true with every slimy, back handed manipulation he pulls to try and
>FORCE things
And Justus does not pull the strings. He lied to her about the extent
of his conversation with Tom. Do you think Simone would have tolerated
the things he said to Tom? No, he told her that he was tough on Tom,
not that he verbally abused him, and hinted to him that he was a racist,
who wanted to control others, especially people of color? Simone said
that her mother was racial biased about Tom, and that she used many
tactics to sabatoge the marriage, she hated her mother for this. Now,
Justus is doing the same thing? Do you think Simone would have approved
of what he said about Tom not being worthy of taking care of Tommy,
but implying that he was? I doubt it. Yet, he constantly tells her that
she should not deal with Tom because she cannot, or does not have the
mental capacity to see through him? That is a major slap to her face,
what does Justus mean that she is a weak woman, and he is the strong
man, and he knows, and only he knows what is best? I think that is
what he means. Simone can figure out Tom, she does not need Wustus
to be the strong man and protect her. The man is overly controlling,
and poor Simone will be in a major bind married to him.
>back to that old domestic security he could once rely on. Tom's
>demonstration of love is lacking, petty and immature. Justus has been
>there for Simone in a proven, tangible way, Tom has not. And even when
>he is with Simone--he ISN'T with her. He just can't glue
>it back together. Like they say, finders keepers losers weepers. Get
>OVER it Hardly!!
You are right. But sadly, there is a bit of realism lacking.
Felicia and Joseph have NO NO NO NO chemistry together. And in
articles Felicia Bell has spoken ravely about Matthew and not Joseph.
For the Simone and Justus relationship to work they need to recast.
Then maybe the feelings I get from Justus will change. But now, the
guy is an utter spoiled, egotistic, BASTARD.
>And Felicia, the kind, loving, sympathetic shoulder that she is--isn't
>the answer either.
>Although, for an ego like his, it could fit the bill for the time
>being....No fuss, no
Well, I think his ego is a facade. He will fall, and after all he
is not a rapist, a murder. He deserves to given some slack. The
show is litered with men with egos, Luke, Sonny, and the worse
case Justus. Give Tom a break. With Filly he was sincere, he had
no reason to be otherwise. Justus hit below the belt with his
remarks about Africa. I think Tom really was thrown by it and
realized that for now he should back off.
>muss, just a blonde in a skirt that will look at him with gooey eyes and
>listen breathlessly
>to every whittle problem he has... Any girl that could bring herself to
>justify Frisco's
>excuses is more than likely quite able to justify Tom's...and
>subconsciously, he knows it too. Hence the attraction.
I think Filly has matured. And someone needs to listen to Tom.
Simone is bitter, and justifiably so; Justus is jealous, and
arrogant, and unforgiven; Audrey is too damn smuttering; Steve,
who is not his father, seems overly critical, I doubt nothing
would please him, and he probably has some latent resentments
about Tom's parentage/conception.
>
>"The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through
>your fingers"
>--Princess Leia Organa (I'm in SW mood today)
>--
>Madelyn
>FGC Ryan "Forever and Ever"
>Kevin, Siggy, and Lucky
Pat C.
> No way. Tom is a spoiled brat and a poor loser. Simone HAS moved on,
> ship with her. Justus is the winner, and BY NOW, you'd think Tom could
> screwed up on. Just
<snipped rest of excellent argument for why Simone should stick with Justus,
Tom should give up already and Felicia should pair-up with Tom. >
Madelyn -
Although I agree with most of your points about these four characters, I
can't agree with your conclusion. Since I really love Simone, Tom and
Felicia (and I guess I can tolerate Justus if I have to - gee, do I?) I
want to see this story evolve gradually. I don't want Tom to give up -
if he does, where's the story? You say that Justus has been there for
Simone, but that's been what...the past year? (maybe it was longer than
that and my FF button only made it seem shorter -hehe). Tom and Simone
got together in the late '80's and had many good years together. Just
because he's a little wacked-out after his Somalia experience doesn't
mean she's going to forget those early years. I'd much rather see Simone
torn between Tom and Justus for a while (hey, more storyline for Felicia
Bell - and isn't it about time?) :-)
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Pat C. "It is not necessary to understand things
patr...@epix.net in order to argue about them" - Beaumarchais
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Madelyn Blair
>like her own person. First, she let Tom convince her to let him come
>back to the brownstone, afterwhich, he promptly broke his word to sign
>the divorce papers, and then she let Justus talk her into playing
>hardball with Tom...just as a strategy...to get him to agree to the
>divorce...but no sooner than Tom does, Justus forgets their demands were
>a bargaining chip and announces to Simone that Tom met all their
>demands, without acknowledging that Simone never wanted sole custody of
>Tommy, and doesn't care about child support either.
>
>Justus is a self-righteous prig. I hope Simone dumps him for Tom.
No way. Tom is a spoiled brat and a poor loser. Simone HAS moved on,
and Justus is the man who is **dedicated** to fufilling a commited partner
ship with her. Justus is the winner, and BY NOW, you'd think Tom could
come to the realization that he can't have back what he sooo badly
screwed up on. Just
because it took him a rock upside the head (i.e. some big, bad experience
in Africa) to realize that he wanted everything back to the old
days--doesn't mean that everyone else has to snap to it and follow suit.
His so-called "love" for Simone and their child, does not
ring true with every slimy, back handed manipulation he pulls to try and
FORCE things
back to that old domestic security he could once rely on. Tom's
demonstration of love is lacking, petty and immature. Justus has been
there for Simone in a proven, tangible way, Tom has not. And even when
he is with Simone--he ISN'T with her. He just can't glue
it back together. Like they say, finders keepers losers weepers. Get
OVER it Hardly!!
And Felicia, the kind, loving, sympathetic shoulder that she is--isn't
the answer either.
Although, for an ego like his, it could fit the bill for the time
being....No fuss, no
muss, just a blonde in a skirt that will look at him with gooey eyes and
listen breathlessly
to every whittle problem he has... Any girl that could bring herself to
justify Frisco's
excuses is more than likely quite able to justify Tom's...and
subconsciously, he knows it too. Hence the attraction.
"The more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through
Joan0328
C." <patr...@epix.net> writes:
>Although I agree with most of your points about these four characters, I
>can't agree with your conclusion. Since I really love Simone, Tom and
>Felicia (and I guess I can tolerate Justus if I have to - gee, do I?) I
>want to see this story evolve gradually. I don't want Tom to give up -
>if he does, where's the story? You say that Justus has been there for
>Simone, but that's been what...the past year? (maybe it was longer than
>that and my FF button only made it seem shorter -hehe). Tom and Simone
>got together in the late '80's and had many good years together. Just
>because he's a little wacked-out after his Somalia experience doesn't
>mean she's going to forget those early years. I'd much rather see Simone
>torn between Tom and Justus for a while (hey, more storyline for Felicia
>Bell - and isn't it about time?) :-)
>
>
I'd rather see her dump the both of them and make Tony happy. They looked
great together on the stoop, and they have a lot in common. Of course, if
TPTB would authorize more than one eligible black male within the Port
Chuck environs at a time, Simone could have her pick. Either way, keep
Tom in the picture: he is the sandpaper that scuffs up her cool veneer --
makes her flawed, human and messed up just like everybody else. Justus
acts as if he alone is carrying the burdens of the neighborhood, the town
and the world on one shoulder while balancing Simone and Tommy on the
other. He needs a good swift kick in the keester to knock him off that
self-erected pedestal of his.
Tante Joan
FGC Laura's Backbone, FGC Sigmund Unlimited-Defender Against Base Canards,
2% FGC Emily, FGC Kevin Unlimited-Keeper of the Wine List, Member,
Precision Bobbie-Slapping Drill Team, MHA Miguel-Keeper of the Long Knives
Madelyn Blair
>> and Justus is the man who is **dedicated** to fufilling a commited partner
>> ship with her. Justus is the winner, and BY NOW, you'd think Tom could
>> come to the realization that he can't have back what he sooo badly
>> screwed up on. Just
>Madelyn -
>
>Although I agree with most of your points about these four characters, I
>can't agree with your conclusion. Since I really love Simone, Tom and
>Felicia (and I guess I can tolerate Justus if I have to - gee, do I?)
Hi Pat. I'm not saying I love the Justus character in any way. However,
I do like this newer Simone, And because I do like her (Felecia), if I
had to choose
between which male character was more deserving of Simone, I would
definetly say Justus. I can barely tolerate Tom's snobby, pushy
behavior, and I don't think Simone should have to tolerate him either. ;)
The guilt trips that SnobbyTommy lays on her is not what loving someone
should be about.
>want to see this story evolve gradually. I don't want Tom to give up -
>if he does, where's the story?
Exactly that. There is *barely* a story to begin with. What would
happen to Tom if he weren't riding the coat tails of Justus and Simone?
Well, tptb have already set up their back-up plan. Felicia is single;
Tom is single...and he's been looking her way. As contrived as it
is...and is much as I LOATHE the thought, Tom and Felicia will
be together..simply out of convenience. Tptb want to bring two
single characters together to give them more screen time. I think this
whole
triangle thing between Justus, Simone and Tom bides tptb some time
to develop the interest between Felicia and Tom. I don't think the
energy that is being put into this "maybe Simone still loves Tom and
she'll drop Justus" is ever going to happen. The woman would be
an idiot to feel the ole warm fuzzy for Tom's behavior of late. Tom
and Simone have been a happily "married couple" before...tptb probably
think:
been there, done that...
You say that Justus has been there for
>Simone, but that's been what...the past year? (maybe it was longer than
>that and my FF button only made it seem shorter -hehe).
What's a year? That's just time...but, ah, is it *quality time*--that's
the
question. Simone has had some very enjoyable, stable quality time
with Justus-her child included. Which is more than can be said for Tom's
treatment of Simone for the last two years. And, yeah, the woman has to
go on
with her life--and thank god she finally did. Justus has also had to
put up with a lot as far as dealing with snot-head Tom. He's had
to deal with Simone being emotionally manipulated--so that he became
wedged between Simone and Tom, and Tom and Tommy Jr. Justus
has had to rearrange his whole lifestyle because of Tom Hardly butting
into everything. Justus has been a doormat--even with Simone*still*
giving Tom allowances because she is lead to feel sorry for him. It's
commendable that Justus still let's her do this--but he has. Like it or
not, Justus has been there for her through this whole thing. As I said,
I'm not Justus fan per say...but the fact that he has stuck by her is
evident.
>Tom and Simone
>got together in the late '80's and had many good years together. Just
>because he's a little wacked-out after his Somalia experience doesn't
>mean she's going to forget those early years.
Hey, no one said that Simone couldn't be good friends with her ex-husband.
Lucy has maintained that whole ex-relationship thing with Alan and Tony.
Just because Simone says the marriage is over, doesn't mean that she
is abandoning Hardly's nutty, screwed up brain caused by his great
Somalia
revelations. On the other hand, Simone is not his caregiving angel and
savior-
she is a woman of the 90's-and has finally REdefined her own life---Tom
needs
to get out there and do the same. It's a poor excuse of a man to watch as
he
cling to Simone's ankle, dishing out another dose of guilt -in hopes that
she'll give him one last chance-out of her pitty for him. The good and
health
years of Tom and Simone are over. Now, Brenda..I could see her attracted
to someone "a little wacked-out"--she could coddle up to him all she
wants. ;)
>I'd much rather see Simone
>torn between Tom and Justus for a while (hey, more storyline for Felicia
>Bell - and isn't it about time?) :-)
I'd rather see Simone thinking clearly about wanting a healthy
relationship--
this means forgetting about giving her a "brain tumor" storyline over
wanting Tom
back. I'd rather see tptb mixing Tom into a more compelling storyline-
rather than watching the leech type behavior he revels in engaging in now.
If this means giving him a new love interest..so be it. BUT GAWD, why
does it have to be Felicia!!! ;) That's a whole 'nother disfunctional co-
dependent storyline right there!. Ah..soaps! ;)
>Pat C.
Celeste Craig
ago for an extended period of time?
--
Celeste Craig, ccr...@hooked.net
"Dream On, Dream On, Dream Until Your Dreams Come True..."
Michelle Jackson
>semi TAN... wasn't simone off somewhere [at first without tom] a few years
>ago for an extended period of time?
>--
>Celeste Craig, ccr...@hooked.net
Michele
DPWard
Craig) writes:
>wasn't simone off somewhere [at first without tom] a few years
>ago for an extended period of time?
Celeste: Absolutely!! She went off to.....I want to say Afghanistan or
Paris or something.
Denise
JoAnn B.
>
>semi TAN... wasn't simone off somewhere [at first without tom] a
>ago for an extended period of time?
able to, that she went to Romania to care for the orphans for a year,
leaving Tommy, who was still a baby and Tom to fend for themselves.
Now she in such a snit about Tom going off to care for people and
leaving her behind?! What the hell is that?! She's such a bratty
hipocrate. Oh by the way, the score for the Hardy extra-marital
affairs now stands at: Tom-2, Simone-3.
Jo "stop your damn whining Simone and start thinking for yourself for
crying out loud, you're driving me nuts!" Burgess
Stephan231
writes:
>From: joan...@aol.com (Joan0328)
>Subject: Re: GH: Tom and Justus
>Date: 7 Sep 1995 12:11:47 -0400
>I'd rather see her dump the both of them and make Tony happy. They
looked
>great together on the stoop, and they have a lot in common. Of course,
if
>TPTB would authorize more than one eligible black male within the Port
>Chuck environs at a time, Simone could have her pick. Either way, keep
>Tom in the picture: he is the sandpaper that scuffs up her cool veneer --
>makes her flawed, human and messed up just like everybody else. Justus
>acts as if he alone is carrying the burdens of the neighborhood, the town
>and the world on one shoulder while balancing Simone and Tommy on the
>other. He needs a good swift kick in the keester to knock him off that
>self-erected pedestal of his.
>Tante Joan
>FGC Laura's Backbone, FGC Sigmund Unlimited-Defender Against Base
Canards,
>2% FGC Emily, FGC Kevin Unlimited-Keeper of the Wine List, Member,
>Precision Bobbie-Slapping Drill Team, MHA Miguel-Keeper of the Long
Knives
ITA about Simone and Tony. They were very good together in the stoop
scene
and Tony definitely needs a woman worthy of him. If I have to watch him
trail
around after Boobie much longer I'm going to start doubting the man's
sanity.
Simone and Tony have a lot in common and Justus needs to be gone. I don't
like him and Simone could definitely do better. In the meantime the idea
of a
Tom/Felicia/Simone/Tony SIDAR is very interesting. It could start to get
really crowded at the brownstone!
Stephanie
Stephan231
k-al...@uiuc.edu (kal alston) writes:
>From: k-al...@uiuc.edu (kal alston)
>Subject: Re: GH: Justus "Butthead" Ward
>Date: Wed, 06 Sep 1995 23:05:54 -0600
>In article <42ktrh$h...@hsc.usc.edu>, ryn...@hsc.usc.edu (Monique Marie
>Rynders) wrote:
>> Does anyone hate Justus as much as I do?
>I don't hate the actor, but boy did Justus peeve me when he went on and
on
>about Tom wanting to manipulate people darker than him. So uncalled for.
>I thought Matthew Ashford was AbFab in that scene--it was as if Justus
had
>stabbed him.
>And plus, it is totally unprofessional to represent your lover in her
>divorce; Justus should be brought up before the NYBA.
>kal
Put me down as someone who hates Justus a whole bunch! For me the problem
clearly lies with the actor playing the role. Could he be any stiffer if
he
tried? I think not. Joseph C. Phillips so very uncomfortable in almost
all
of his scenes and Justus has a major stick up his butt. It's amazing to
me
how anyone so perfect can be so perfectly boring and pompous. Every time
he
accuses Tom of being arrogant I just want to tell him to take a look in
the
mirror! The other thing about JCP that annoys me is that he's getting
eaten
alive in his scenes with Matthew Ashford AND Felecia Bell. MA & FB so so
superior to JCP that it's almost painful to watch any scenes in which the
three of them appear. If it weren't for the fact that I like Matthew
Ashford and Felecia Bell so much I would be spared the ghastly sights and
sounds of Justus Ward.
Stephanie
Cher
writes:
> semi TAN... wasn't simone off somewhere [at first without tom] a few years
> ago for an extended period of time?
> --
> Celeste Craig, ccr...@hooked.net
Yes, I believe Simone was the first one to move away from Tom.
I think she was in Bosnia maybe? Or which country was it that
so many Americans were adopting babies from a few years back?
We had friends adopt from Poland around that time, but I think
there was another country where this was more prevalent, but the
name's slipped my mind at the momemt. Wait a minute -- wasn't it
Romania? Simone might've been there -- working in the orphanges.
--> Cher
Madelyn Blair
>Let me get this straight - Tom is a bad person because he is willing to give
>Simone what she asked for?
No, you don't quite have what I said straight. ;) Simone may have asked
for
it once--but it was HE that missed the boat. Tom may be willing to
do anything--right now, at this point in time. And that's too bad, that
it
dawned on his so late. So just because he's willing, doesn't mean the
other
party is STILL willing and able. Simone has made it quite clear that she
is very comfortable with moving on. Things change, and Tom is an ignorant
person to not realize that Simone no longer still wants the same things
that he does. She realizes that she no longer loves him the way she used
too. Tom can NOT get over that. The shoes no longer fits the way it
used to. And that is immature selfishness on his part to try and strong
arm her back into loving him. His relentless demonstration of tenacity
and force surely does not equal love.
>It's not exactly as if Tom were in Africa on
>vacation for two years. Simone herself has trotted off on more than one
>humanitarian effort, while Tom stayed home and waited like the good little
>husband. While it's true that they didn't have children at the time it
>doesn't make Tom's waiting for Simone any less noble than her staying at home
>for two years with their child.
No, but considering that Simone was more adventurous back in the days
without
children is normal for both parties of a couple. Who knows..maybe Simone's
little trips back then was was a tell tale sign that their marriage was
doomed to fail. It is only when a child is created that obligation and
responsibility rank higher...and this happen to be when Tom decided to
exit stage left sooo many times. His career move to Somalia may have, at
first, been only a job-but after so many times of him choosing
it continuously over the family he left back home, it becomes obvious that
he had changed...that working at GH at his little shrink routine, and the
mundane lifestyle of just being there for his wife and child were no
longer enough for him. He was
selfish..Simone sacrificed 2 whole years of her life, thinking that one
day it would
be over--that he would return. But it never happened. This was the time
that Simone waited and regreted that her husband was missing out. And
NOW, it is time for Simone to be a little selfish and say -now, once
again, it's time for MY choice.
Simone's approach was.."I'm not getting any younger--and I'm certainly
not spending my life with a husband either." And now it's also time for
Tom to
*finally* feel the regret of losing those 2 years that he never had with
his wife and
growing child. It's time he realize that the choice he made, made others
choose differently. And that the reason he is now standing in lonely
shoes has *very* much to do with HIS past actions.
> I'm also a little sick and tired of Simone
>acting like she couldn't have asked the man to come back home before his
>little unannounced visited in February. When Tom did come home he asked
>Simone to go back to Africa with him. An offer she refused because she didn't
>want to uproot Tommy nor did she want to live in the jungle. Well, that's all
>fine and dandy except that she knew the instant Tom was out of town she was
>going to hit the sheets with Justus. Simone and Justus both have demonstrated
>their fair share of a lack of respect for the sanctity of marriage vows. Once
>Tom realized his mistake and come home to give Simone what she claimed to have
>wanted he was told to go back to Africa and not darken Simone's doorstep
>again.
Don't kid yourself, Tom didn't simply have an affair and then
suddenly realize he screwed up. No, Tom had been seeing another woman,
and living a completely separate lifestyle from the one he dropped back
home. Guilt free because he couldn't get caught by anyone... After all,
Tom IS a man AND no one knew him personally there. Life and women were
obviously adventurous and tempting. Come on, you don't really believe
Frisco has remained a monk all these years do you? ;)
And besides all of that, Simone doesn't claim to be a saint anymore than
Tom would. The point here is that Simone WAS faithful to Tom, until she
realized
that Tom wasn't putting the same kind of energy and devotion into the
marriage
that she had over the years. She felt cheated, can you blame the woman?
She's a woman in her prime, and she realized that love and sex were
something
she had only probably fantasized about all this time --all this time Tom
was
out enjoying some other woman..or fufilling his career needs. I don't
think Simone should be cut-down for having human needs. This Susie
Homemaker thing
was getting to be as much a bore for her as being Mr. Cleaver was for Tom
two
years ago. It was like living a lie.
>Hardly an ideal welcome from a woman who was getting exactly what she
>claimed to have wanted. I can't say I blame Tom for manipulating Simone or
>reneging on his promise to sign the divorce papers once he was living at the
>brownstone. Justus is not the first time Simone has strayed and while she may
>claim to love him, Simone clearly has a lot of residual feelings for Tom as
>well. After her little talk with Tony on the steps of the brownstone, I'm not
>entirely convinced that Simone is divorcing Tom because she is so madly in
>love with Justus. Listening to her that day she brought up all kinds of
>reasons for wanting a divorce but loving Justus was not one of them. I think
>Simone is divorcing Tom out of spite. While it was alright for her to go off
>to Romania and have two other affairs, Tom is not allowed the same leeway. I
>happen to like Simone and think that she can do better than Justus, but at the
>same time I don't think she deserves Tom, either. Simone is doing the same
>waffling thing that Boobie is getting famous for - she wants to have her cake
>and eat it, too.
Before you are so quick to judge the women in PC here, wasn't Tom the one
who
thought he could live another lifestyle in Somalia--and also a wife and
child
intact at home.. One day, Tom woke up (imagine that) and decided for
HIMSELF (not consulting anyone in particular) that Somalia wasn't his
equation of paradise anymore--and then, somehow, got it in his mind
(again, without consulting anyone in particular) that he could just walk
through the front door of that home (somewhere over in PC)and pick up the
pieces with his (ever-devoted) wife and (forever 5 yr old) child. It
feels to me like Tom (the way his mind thinks) treats the _idea_of HIS
wife, HIS child as some kind of object unit that he can force back into
fitting HIS needs-at HIS whim. Doesn't that sound an awful like a man
that is used to getting his way--used to having his cake and eatting it
too? And now, just because Simone won't suddenly jump! when he says
jump!--he is baffled...moreover, he's crafty and slippery about doing
anything he can to have it all back his way...Even if that means causing
the ruination of the new found happiness that Simone has reclaimed in her
life-Justus. He was snide to Justus and Simone from the beginning--now,
how do you expect an intelligent woman like Simone to drop everything and
find her place under Tom's wing. How could you expect her to welcome Tom
back? He was a nasty jerk--and even Luke and Lucy noticed this..
Moreover, how could Tom expect he could win brownie points with his
snobby ass attitude. Doesn't make anyone feeling like cuddling up to
him. The only hidden smoldering emotion he's managed to dredge up out of
Simone is ANGER and guilt. A constant reminder to her of how things have
changed, how she regrets the old loving days between her and Tom are
*truely* gone.
And Simone shouldn't be EXPECTED to feel an obligation to Tom any longer,
she is living for herself now. Hey, sure, it's unfortunate the child is
caught in the middle of this--but it can't be any worse then the time the
child spent alone, while his dad played the big cheese in Somalia. The
child was already picking up on a troubled future everytime Daddy visited
for a day-ortwo-or three and then left once again. He's used to it. And
Simone is smart enough to know--give the gal credit--that Justus is a
very sensitive person when it comes to family life. I don't know how well
Tom faired in his home life, but Justus has
a very close knit family. Justus has been very sucessful at winning over
Tommy Jr.'s heart--to top it off, Simone is happy with Justus
emotionally..physically..mentally. Finally! She was no longer a wife
neglected! She has been put FIRST by some man
in her life--and she likes that. Until the day that Tom thought he could
tear it all apart to have what HE WANTED back again. Including nasty
tricks like wedging himself between Tommy Jr. and Justus--and Simone and
Justus. etc.
etc. I need not go on.. Anyway, that behavior is slimy, it's
immature..it reeks of someone who truely has lost the way to LOVING
someone..This is someone who knows he has LOST...but instead of learning
from it, and trying to truely
make it better their child, his ego must do things in a spiteful matter to
prove his points, no matter how distorted they are. A immature man with a
bruised ego. That's all it really is.
>Stephanie
>Shareholder FGC Tom
--
Madelyn
FGC Ryan "Forever and Ever"
Kevin, Siggy, Lukcy
MHGC Tom Hardly