Kathleen Lenkeit wrote: > >Now I *do* understand your comment about 'context' and that they > >wouldn't *expect* Emily to smell like pot so maybe they wouldn't make > >the connection the first few times but they *really* should suspect > >something by now! And what about Nedly? Surely (as a *rock singer*) > >he would know what pot smells like!!!
> But Ned isn't your typical rock singer. He didn't start > his singing career until he met Lois, and then he didn't > hang around with groupies - he was always with Lois. So, > I doubt Ned's career as a rock singer gave him an introduction > to pot.
For gosh sake's he was a teen-ager in the 70s. 'Nuf said. You didn't survive the 70s without knowing what pot smelled like. Geez, Louise, we had a segment in health class where policemen came in to teach Drug Awareness and burned pot in class so we would know what it smelled like. (Not that anyone didn't already know... and it was the most attended class of the year...)
Sure. There is someone somewhere who was a teen in the 70s and doesn't know what pot smelled like. And, maybe Eddie Quartermaine is the one. But, the chances are slim to none, especially is a prep school. Anyone who was at least a teen ager in the 70s knows what burning pot smells like.
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klenk...@ix.netcom.com(Kathleen Lenkeit) writes: >In <5i8hd8$f...@saganaga.computerpro.com> Isi ><momsl...@cp.duluth.mn.us> writes: <snip> >>Of course A & M know what pot smells like. >I still don't think so.
Alan and Monica are of the age that they should know what pot smells like. It was prevalent in the 60s when they were in school.
Even if they don't know what the smell is, you would think they might wonder about the smell eminating from Emily to the point where they might discuss it between themselves. They might even wonder if she's smoking cigarettes or cigars (since everyone and their sister is smoking cigars these days).
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>>You don't think Alan and Monica smoked pot at some point, or were >>at least around it? ;) Even I know what it smells like, sweet >>little Southern Baptist girl that I am. And I think anyone who's >>gone to a major arena concert would know. Not that Alan and Monica >>would ever have done that.... >Good points, Amy, but to this I would add the most obvious. They're >*doctors* for heaven's sake. Wouldn't they have had to learn the >basics about drugs in medical school, and during an ER rotation????
Hi, I'm a lurker that really enjoys this group and usually I can see most everyones point and go about my business, but this time I have something to say.:-)
Have any of you ever dealt with a friend or family member doing drugs? How long did it take to realize this? My guess, not the first time or even the second time the person did it. If all parents caught the smell we probably would not have the teen drug problem we have today. Most don't pick up on it until its too late or the kid tries it and isn't impressed. Most professional and non-professional parents don't see the signs, esp. if the kid has always been a good kid you would have no reason to suspect drugs. Even if you were a parent who experimented with drugs as a kid you might not ever see the signs. So, why would a fictional parent realize a child is getting stoned?
GH has always been pretty good at being as close to RL as possible (w/ some stories) and the drug story is not far off, IMO. Why, you ask. There are a lot of ways to cover it up (listing a few) and sometimes no one notices anyway.
1. Well, smoking pot outside is a fairly safe way not to smell like it, unless your smoking some really strong pot.
2. Smoking inside can be covered up and its real easy to say a friend was smoking a cigarette and it smelled like that. A lie yes, but if you don't think your kid is doing drugs this sounds logical. And you would get to give a lecture on how I hope your not smoking its bad for you. While the kid is stoned as hell.
3. Eyes hide the red with Visine.
4. Most any strong candy like jolly ranchers green apple will cover pot on your breath without smelling like your trying to cover something up.
5. Not being involved with the child and even sometimes parents who are involved still miss the signs.
It is MO that when this comes to a head Monica and Alan will blame themselves because they were so wrapped up in their problems and AJs that they didn't see that there was a problem.
I really don't mean to sound preachy but sometimes we are to hard on our GH characters and the writers. If people in RL don't see the signs why would a fictional characters be expected to.
>McAmy had written: >>>You don't think Alan and Monica smoked pot at some point, or were >>>at least around it? ;) Even I know what it smells like, sweet >>>little Southern Baptist girl that I am. And I think anyone who's >>>gone to a major arena concert would know. Not that Alan and Monica >>>would ever have done that....
>>Good points, Amy, but to this I would add the most obvious. They're >>*doctors* for heaven's sake. Wouldn't they have had to learn the >>basics about drugs in medical school, and during an ER rotation????
>Hi, I'm a lurker that really enjoys this group and usually I can >see most everyones point and go about my business, but this time >I have something to say.:-)
>Have any of you ever dealt with a friend or family member doing >drugs? How long did it take to realize this? My guess, not the >first time or even the second time the person did it. If all parents >caught the smell we probably would not have the teen drug problem >we have today. Most don't pick up on it until its too late or the >kid tries it and isn't impressed. Most professional and >non-professional parents don't see the signs, esp. if the kid has >always been a good kid you would have no reason to suspect drugs. >Even if you were a parent who experimented with drugs as a kid you >might not ever see the signs. So, why would a fictional parent >realize a child is getting stoned?
>GH has always been pretty good at being as close to RL as possible >(w/ some stories) and the drug story is not far off, IMO. Why, you >ask. There are a lot of ways to cover it up (listing a few) and >sometimes no one notices anyway.
>1. Well, smoking pot outside is a fairly safe way not to smell like >it, unless your smoking some really strong pot.
>2. Smoking inside can be covered up and its real easy to say a friend >was smoking a cigarette and it smelled like that. A lie yes, but >if you don't think your kid is doing drugs this sounds logical. And >you would get to give a lecture on how I hope your not smoking its >bad for you. While the kid is stoned as hell.
>3. Eyes hide the red with Visine.
>4. Most any strong candy like jolly ranchers green apple will >cover pot on your breath without smelling like your trying to >cover something up.
>5. Not being involved with the child and even sometimes parents >who are involved still miss the signs.
>It is MO that when this comes to a head Monica and Alan will blame >themselves because they were so wrapped up in their problems and AJs >that they didn't see that there was a problem.
>I really don't mean to sound preachy but sometimes we are to hard >on our GH characters and the writers. If people in RL don't see >the signs why would a fictional characters be expected to.
Welcome to posting, Angela! This was excellent. You should post more often.
What you've said, I think, is right on the money. In reality, most parents are clueless when their kids first begin to use drugs. In Emily's case, the friend she hangs out with, Matt, apparently comes from a good family because Alan (well, someone) commented that he has played golf with Matt's father at "the club." We *know* that any club to which the Quartermaines belong is a pricey club, indeed, so we can assume that Matt's family is far from destitute. If Emily were hanging out with lowlifes, Alan and Monica would be more inclined to be suspicious of her behavior and activities. But, they are thinking that she is associating with someone from a "good family," so they have no reason to be suspicious.
I think the point TPTB are trying to get across to parents everywhere is that you can't just assume that your kid is not doing anything wrong -- you have to actively participate in your child's life. Alan and Monica are too quick to dismiss Emily, because they are too wrapped up in themselves and what's going on in their own lives. They've got to realize that Emily needs more attention from them, because she was used to being the center of attention of Page's life. A child left to its own devices gets bored, and bored kids are easily influenced by others to do things they normally wouldn't do...
Alan and Monica are in for a rude awakening, and a major shock to their systems.
>Welcome to posting, Angela! This was excellent. You >should post more often.
Thank you. I'm glad someone respond, with a positive response. I'm sure I'll be posting more often, esp. with a DTR going on so many memories and emotions are being relived. A DTR (AMC) has been a little disappointing for me so far because I was looking forward to seeing Billy Clyde (the actor was great in the role & he was a true bad guy). It just seems they are leaving out some of the best stuff, just like GH isn't suppose to show the day that Anna tied Robert up and did the little dance that was a great show. Wow, did I get off the subject, Sorry!
>What you've said, I think, is right on the money. In >reality, most parents are clueless when their kids first >begin to use drugs. In Emily's case, the friend she >hangs out with, Matt, apparently comes from a good family >because Alan (well, someone) commented that he has played >golf with Matt's father at "the club." We *know* that any >club to which the Quartermaines belong is a pricey club, >indeed, so we can assume that Matt's family is far from >destitute. If Emily were hanging out with lowlifes, Alan >and Monica would be more inclined to be suspicious of her >behavior and activities. But, they are thinking that she >is associating with someone from a "good family," so they >have no reason to be suspicious.
Speaking of friends where is Lucky in her life now? They were real close and now nothing. I know she was probably upset about his Mom playing dead but I would think he would see the kids she was running around with at school and still be giving her the riot act wheter she wanted to her what he had to say or not. He is a Spencer.
>I think the point TPTB are trying to get across to parents >everywhere is that you can't just assume that your kid is >not doing anything wrong -- you have to actively participate >in your child's life. Alan and Monica are too quick to >dismiss Emily, because they are too wrapped up in themselves >and what's going on in their own lives. They've got to >realize that Emily needs more attention from them, because >she was used to being the center of attention of Page's life.
Exactly.
>A child left to its own devices gets bored, and bored kids >are easily influenced by others to do things they normally >wouldn't do...
Oh, how true.
>Alan and Monica are in for a rude awakening, and a major >shock to their systems. >Kathleen
No doubt. One kid is an alcoholic, one that doesn't know them and a druggie. What failures they're gonna feel like. I feel sorry for them, rocky marriage since the beginning and now they have childern who are not perfect.
>>>MrnLibn wrote: Right after Emily and Monica left >>>>>the room - Monica went to Emily's room with her to talk - and I >>>>>just CAN'T BELIEVE that these people can't smell the drugs on her!
>>>I can't believe that we were TOLD this conversation was going to take >>>place ... why could we SEE it. There have been at least eight >>>flashbacks to date this week (between Monday and Thursday), so it's >>>notlike there wasn't time.
>>I think that the writers are being very unrealistic about this drug >>ordeal because there's NO WAY that they can't smell the drugs!!! >>C'MON!!! it's a strong smell and for Alan to hug and kiss her when >>she walked in totally surprised me that he didn't notice a strong >>odor!!! I was for sure he would mention something about the strong >>smoke smell. Well this in my opinion......we'll see what happens.
><butting in with my opinion> Yes, the marijuana *does* >have a distinctive odor, but it's not always necessarily >strong... it depends on the quality of the weed.
>Additionally, unless you've been TOLD that what you are >smelling is marijuana, you would have no way of knowing >what any particular smell is, outside of having experienced >it first hand. Monica is a cardiologist, so she wouldn't >normally come in contact with people who have been smoking >pot. Alan is an internist, which would give him better >odds than Monica, but still low probability of pot smoking >contacts through his profession, and both of them have a >negligible probability of personal contact.
>So, it's quite likely that both Alan and Monica smelled >*something,* but they just didn't know what it was, and >didn't suspect that she was into drugs.
>Kathleen
I just have to step in here. Maybe Alan and Monica didn't know it was pot they smelled, but when I was Em's age if I came home smelling like anything I was questioned. Not that my parents thought I was smoking, but because they wanted to know who I was around that was. (might be a bad influence) Of course my parents were more attentive than the Qs, but then again, who isn't. <g>
> In <5ibqd6$...@hopper.ACM.ORG> ang...@ACM.ORG (Angela Abbott) writes:
> >McAmy had written: > >>>You don't think Alan and Monica smoked pot at some point, or were > >>>at least around it? ;) Even I know what it smells like, sweet > >>>little Southern Baptist girl that I am. And I think anyone who's > >>>gone to a major arena concert would know. Not that Alan and Monica > >>>would ever have done that....
> >>Good points, Amy, but to this I would add the most obvious. They're > >>*doctors* for heaven's sake. Wouldn't they have had to learn the > >>basics about drugs in medical school, and during an ER rotation????
> >Hi, I'm a lurker that really enjoys this group and usually I can > >see most everyones point and go about my business, but this time > >I have something to say.:-)
> >Have any of you ever dealt with a friend or family member doing > >drugs? How long did it take to realize this? My guess, not the > >first time or even the second time the person did it. If all parents > >caught the smell we probably would not have the teen drug problem > >we have today. Most don't pick up on it until its too late or the > >kid tries it and isn't impressed. Most professional and > >non-professional parents don't see the signs, esp. if the kid has > >always been a good kid you would have no reason to suspect drugs. > >Even if you were a parent who experimented with drugs as a kid you > >might not ever see the signs. So, why would a fictional parent > >realize a child is getting stoned?
> >GH has always been pretty good at being as close to RL as possible > >(w/ some stories) and the drug story is not far off, IMO. Why, you > >ask. There are a lot of ways to cover it up (listing a few) and > >sometimes no one notices anyway.
> >1. Well, smoking pot outside is a fairly safe way not to smell like > >it, unless your smoking some really strong pot.
> >2. Smoking inside can be covered up and its real easy to say a friend > >was smoking a cigarette and it smelled like that. A lie yes, but > >if you don't think your kid is doing drugs this sounds logical. And > >you would get to give a lecture on how I hope your not smoking its > >bad for you. While the kid is stoned as hell.
> >3. Eyes hide the red with Visine.
> >4. Most any strong candy like jolly ranchers green apple will > >cover pot on your breath without smelling like your trying to > >cover something up.
> >5. Not being involved with the child and even sometimes parents > >who are involved still miss the signs.
> >It is MO that when this comes to a head Monica and Alan will blame > >themselves because they were so wrapped up in their problems and AJs > >that they didn't see that there was a problem.
> >I really don't mean to sound preachy but sometimes we are to hard > >on our GH characters and the writers. If people in RL don't see > >the signs why would a fictional characters be expected to.
> Welcome to posting, Angela! This was excellent. You > should post more often.
> What you've said, I think, is right on the money. In > reality, most parents are clueless when their kids first > begin to use drugs. In Emily's case, the friend she > hangs out with, Matt, apparently comes from a good family > because Alan (well, someone) commented that he has played > golf with Matt's father at "the club." We *know* that any > club to which the Quartermaines belong is a pricey club, > indeed, so we can assume that Matt's family is far from > destitute. If Emily were hanging out with lowlifes, Alan > and Monica would be more inclined to be suspicious of her > behavior and activities. But, they are thinking that she > is associating with someone from a "good family," so they > have no reason to be suspicious.
> I think the point TPTB are trying to get across to parents > everywhere is that you can't just assume that your kid is > not doing anything wrong -- you have to actively participate > in your child's life. Alan and Monica are too quick to > dismiss Emily, because they are too wrapped up in themselves > and what's going on in their own lives. They've got to > realize that Emily needs more attention from them, because > she was used to being the center of attention of Page's life. > A child left to its own devices gets bored, and bored kids > are easily influenced by others to do things they normally > wouldn't do...
> Alan and Monica are in for a rude awakening, and a major > shock to their systems.
> Kathleen
I have experienced something like this in RL, with a brother. I think A & M being practicing doctors should notice other tell-tale signs of E's drug use - radical personality changes. Even if you don't smell the smells or see the eyes they should at least notice the personality changes. - Just MO - Breezy
Whether Alan and Monica would or should know what pot smells like, I think the point is that they just aren't paying attention to Emily. When she first started using, she was quite paranoid about being caught (like when she dumped the bottle of patchouli on herself to cover the pot odor). But the longer she goes on using without getting caught, the more reckless she becomes, perhaps because on some level she's testing Monica and Alan. And they are just not paying attention. At this point, I think Emily could snort lines off the silver croissant tray during a Q-family breakfast and no one would notice.
In article <nospam-mccoy-ya023480001004970635270...@news.ziplink.net>, nospam-mc...@ziplink.net (Roser) writes:
> At this point, I think Emily could snort lines >off the silver croissant tray during a Q-family breakfast and no one >would notice.
LOL! Put this right up there with the image of Lila's crystal bong! What next... Edward smoking a hash pipe while reading the evening paper? (Hmmm, I wonder if they'll draw this out 'til Thanksgiving...)
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> In article <nospam-mccoy-ya023480001004970635270...@news.ziplink.net>, nospam-mc...@ziplink.net (Roser) writes:
> > At this point, I think Emily could snort lines > >off the silver croissant tray during a Q-family breakfast and no one > >would notice.
> LOL! Put this right up there with the image of Lila's crystal bong! > What next... Edward smoking a hash pipe while reading the evening > paper? (Hmmm, I wonder if they'll draw this out 'til Thanksgiving...)
If they do draw it out till Thanksgiving, this year they can order sausage and magic mushroom pizza when their turkey dinner goes awry. patt.
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Teresa Barton wrote: > I just have to step in here. Maybe Alan and Monica didn't know > it was pot they smelled, but when I was Em's age if I came home > smelling like anything I was questioned. Not that my parents > thought I was smoking, but because they wanted to know who I was > around that was. (might be a bad influence) Of course my parents > were more attentive than the Qs, but then again, who isn't. <g>
I'm not sure about the Q's being attentive, but naive and trusting when it comes to Emily. Countless times we've seen various family members, from Ned and AJ to Monica and Alan, ask Emily if she's okay, how school is, if she's dealing with the bad press/publicity okay...and they believe her when she says she's fine. But what they don't understand is that she's a teenager! What else is she going to say? At that age I didn't want to talk to my parents about anything either! I think somewhere inside they know that all this stuff is bothering her, but they naively believe that Emily can handle it...and she can't. And even though Alan can't handle the the scandal and is turning to pills, AJ can't handle the dissapointement and pressure and turned to alcohol, they're still going to be surprised about Emily? Oh those dysfunctional Q's..how can you not love them?
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jlcfan2...@aol.com (JLCfan2613) wrote: >I just saw Tristan Rogers on the soap "The Bold and the Beautiful"! Glad >to see him back because I remember all of the hoopla when he left GH. >He's playing a private investigator. His accent seems almost gone.
Private investigator....hmmmm....must be quite a stretch! ;)
I just saw Tristan Rogers on the soap "The Bold and the Beautiful"! Glad to see him back because I remember all of the hoopla when he left GH. He's playing a private investigator. His accent seems almost gone. JLCfan2613 http://members.aol.com/JLCfan2613/jlcfan.htm Jean LeClerc, please come back!
