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Bill Pearis

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Oct 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/22/97
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Michael Grote wrote:
>
> The other day I was watching the above movies when I realized that they
> are made by the same film company. At least I think they are considering
> the totally screwy opening and closing credit sequence, that has nothing
> to do with the movie. What do you think sirs?
>
> "Fong, the trumpy's ready!" (ya know because the two movies and oh
> nevermind...)


Well the original movies weren't made by the same company, but they were
later both bought (along with marooned) by the same company -- given new
opening credits (complete with footage from other unrelated films) and
new titles. As i don't have them here with me, I don't know the name of
the company. But that's the story on that.

Gregory McCambley

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Oct 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/22/97
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Michael Grote (mgr...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) writes:
> The other day I was watching the above movies when I realized that they
> are made by the same film company. At least I think they are considering
> the totally screwy opening and closing credit sequence, that has nothing
> to do with the movie. What do you think sirs?

They certainly do look similar, don't they? One has to wonder, though,
why the company decided that the movies were good enough to release,
but not good enough to be used under their own credits sequences.

> "Fong, the trumpy's ready!" (ya know because the two movies and oh
> nevermind...)

"All right! Now we call this movie `Fong People'!" :-)

Talk to ya later,

Greg McCambley
"It has nothing to do with Pods. It has nothing to do with People. It has
everything to do with Hurting."
-Dr. Clayton Forrester (guess where it's from)

Bill Livingston

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Oct 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/22/97
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Previously on "Harry O", Bill Pearis wrote:

>Michael Grote wrote:
>>The other day I was watching the above movies when I realized that they
>>are made by the same film company. At least I think they are considering
>>the totally screwy opening and closing credit sequence, that has nothing
>>to do with the movie. What do you think sirs?
>>
>>"Fong, the trumpy's ready!" (ya know because the two movies and oh
>>nevermind...)
>
>Well the original movies weren't made by the same company, but they were
>later both bought (along with marooned) by the same company -- given new
>opening credits (complete with footage from other unrelated films) and
>new titles. As i don't have them here with me, I don't know the name of
>the company. But that's the story on that.

The company is Film Ventures International (Motto: "We don't just do bad
credits - we do credits *badly*").

I sometimes wonder what they were thinking when they decided to tack those
inappropriate title sequences onto the films. "Space Travellers", I can kinda
see - it's a space movie, so let's put a shot (cheesy though it may be) of a
spinning globe up. But I never did figure out the whole "Cave Dwellers" thing
- why are Chad and Todd running around with the Fuller Brush People?

Bill L.
Reminding you that if you plan to insert new title sequences on a movie,
at least use something from the film in question!

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TCurryFan

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Oct 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/22/97
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"mgr...@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Michael Grote)" said:

>The other day I was watching the above movies when I realized
>that they are made by the same film company. At least I think they
>are considering the totally screwy opening and closing credit
>sequence, that has nothing to do with the movie. What do you
>think sirs?

Well, those beginnings are weird... I think _Stranded_in_Space_ and
_Space_Travelers_ also had those freaky, this-has-nothing-to-do-with-the-movie
beginnings.

>"Fong, the trumpy's ready!" (ya know because the two movies and
>oh nevermind...)

I liked it. (-:

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Dyna Blue: "You're wrong! I'm almost sure of it!"
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Jonah13NYC

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Oct 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/23/97
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>Gregory McCambley wrote:

>>
>> Michael Grote (mgr...@freenet.columbus.oh.us) writes:
>> > The other day I was watching the above movies when I realized that they
>> > are made by the same film company. At least I think they are considering
>> > the totally screwy opening and closing credit sequence, that has nothing
>> > to do with the movie. What do you think sirs?
>>
>> They certainly do look similar, don't they? One has to wonder, though,
>> why the company decided that the movies were good enough to release,
>> but not good enough to be used under their own credits sequences.
>
>Film Ventures never kept the original credits because they were trying
>to foist these dogs off on the public as completely _different_ movies.
>(This is fairly common among crappy smalltime video companies). For
>example, someone who may have seen the movie "Marooned" (or correctly
>decided not to watch it) might rent it if they think it's a wonderful
>little sleeper called "Space Travelers." Get it?
>
>Although "City Limits" is CL's original title.
>I don't have _all_ the answers.

Okay, speaking as the indie filmmaker here:

One of the reasons the credits are slashed off is that they could buy the
rights for much less money IF THEY'RE ONLY USING A "CLIP" FROM THE MOVIE.

Now, essentially, the credit sequences are FVI's "film", while the middle, the
movie itself, is a "clip" from the movie. Get it?

Okay, let me restate...

If I made a film, and wanted to include, say, a scene from "The Wizard of Oz"
where the witch yells, "Fly, monkeys, fly!", well, I'd buy the rights to air
that portion of the clip.

FVI essentially bought most of the movie to show as a "clip" to stick in
between their film - their "original film" consisting of JUST THE CREDITS.

That's also why the title is different. "Los Nuevos Extretesstrales" becomes
"Pod People" (not known if FVI or the original filmmakers did the awful
dubbing - the same woman did ALL the voices, including the little boy's),
"Blade Master" became "Cave Dwellers", "Time Walker" became "Being from
Another Planet", and so forth.

As for "City Limits", I'm guessing the rights to THAT movie were so cheap they
bought the film outright. NOTICE they didn't include different scenes from a
different movie in it. They simply froze framed the screen and displayed the
credit. It could be, in fact, FVI actually PRODUCED the durned thing.

Another thing I'm not sure of -- did BBI or FVI edit "Space Travellers". BBI
cracked it was a "public access version of 'Marooned'" - FVI might have edited
it instead of BBI, so it didn't have to pay TOO much for it's "clip" of the
movie.


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Jonah13NYC

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Oct 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM10/24/97
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>
>Nope. Originally done by Sho Films / Videoform Pictures, produced by the
>same team that did the sci-fi movie Android.
>
>

Whoops. Should have known that. Surprisingly, "Andriod" was not a bad film. In
fact, the whole reason "City Limits" got made was that "Android" was a cult
hit in California.

So I guess the answer is, City Limits was bought lock, stock, and James Earl
Jones by FVI.

"Los Nuevos Extreterrestrales" (aka The Unearthling, Pod People) was made in
Spain. Everyone in the film was speaking Spanish, and it was dubbed in English
by at most 3 men and only one woman (who supplies the voice of the little
kid). Why the English T-shirt, and some English words? Remember, "Fugitive
Alien" had a space-marine wearing a tag saying "Security Guard"... and that
truck's going to Utah!

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