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Jean

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Aug 6, 2003, 4:57:17 PM8/6/03
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Jeffrey Johnson

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Aug 6, 2003, 5:34:53 PM8/6/03
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Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Jean:

>http://www.mst3k-fic.com/gko.html

Wonderful! Any particular reason this painting isn't on the regular
gallery page?

JSJ1TG, waiting oh-so-patiently for "Gyspy With Tear"

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regret/Though the wind may tangle the hair on your head, you sing like a
siren to me." -Cracker

Jean

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Aug 6, 2003, 6:30:43 PM8/6/03
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Jeffrey Johnson wrote:

> Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Jean:
>
> >http://www.mst3k-fic.com/gko.html
>
> Wonderful! Any particular reason this painting isn't on the regular
> gallery page?

Um...........laziness? No really, I usually save up four new paintings and
add them at once. More striking impact that way. I wanted to get this up
cuz you and some others have expressed an affection for abstraction.

> JSJ1TG, waiting oh-so-patiently for "Gyspy With Tear"

Yes, yes, I'm hurrying.

Jean


Carl Burke

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Aug 6, 2003, 7:02:13 PM8/6/03
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Jean wrote:
> Jeffrey Johnson wrote:
...

> > JSJ1TG, waiting oh-so-patiently for "Gyspy With Tear"
>
> Yes, yes, I'm hurrying.
>
> Jean

Don't rush her, Jeffrey! Stand back! Give the woman some air!
Why, she does more painting before breakfast than... um...
I suppose she probably doesn't actually do any painting before
breakfast... but by dinner time she has almost certainly done
more painting than any of us non-artistes.

It's hard work! And if she wants to knock back a few shots
while she's working, well, she's earned them. Who are you to judge?
Artists have needs, Jeffrey. Powerful needs. If you really want
"Gypsy With Tear", maybe you should think about satisfying some
of those needs.

If you could provide, say, a certain Mr. Diesel for Jean to
slake her various lusts upon, you might see that painting
a little sooner. Or maybe not at all, because maybe Jean
won't have time for painting anything except parts of Vin's
sleekly muscular anatomy. It's just too hard to predict.

I think I've made my point, whatever it was.

--
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Joe Blevins

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Aug 6, 2003, 8:00:32 PM8/6/03
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"Jean" <wel...@frii.com> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.mst3k-fic.com/gko.html

This is why I love the abstract ones best of all and consider them first
among equals. This painting not only works as parody/homage, but it has a
serenity and grace of its own. In the best tradition of modern abstract
art, "Botko" is simple without being simplistic. Should there ever be a
book about MST3K fandom, imagine how wonderful this painting (or the
similarly minimalist "Botrian") would look adorning the cover. Gorgeous,
no?

I cannot as easily explain my strange affection for Rothko's rectangles. I
suppose it has something to do with my belief that a finished work of art
should be a reflection of the process that the artist went through to create
it. Ideally, the viewer should see the creative process in each brushstroke
or dollop of paint. That theory sort of covers Van Gogh, Picasso, Rothko,
and Pollock, not to mention Ralph Steadman with his untamed ink blots and
manic scratches. But what of Andy Warhol's silkscreens -- created
mechanically with the intention of showing NO interference by the artist?
Aren't they equally valid works of art? Yes. No. I don't know. GRRRRR!!!
Art is hard.

Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I know what I
like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up everything with no loose
ends or nagging exceptions.)

--Joe--

P.S. - Speaking of Ralph Steadman, you owe it to yourself to at least
*watch* the Criterion DVD of "Fear and Loathing" if only for the magnificent
main menu in which we see Steadman himself slathering ink on a blank page to
create the film's logo. (At least I assume it's Steadman; all we see are
his hands.)


Jeffrey Johnson

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Aug 7, 2003, 1:17:27 AM8/7/03
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Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Joe Blevins:

>Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I know
>what I like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up everything with
>no loose ends or nagging exceptions.)

I can't give you a definition of art, but I know it when I see it.

JSJ1TG

Robert Hutchinson

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:11:52 AM8/7/03
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Jeffrey Johnson says...

> Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Joe Blevins:
>
> >Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I know
> >what I like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up everything with
> >no loose ends or nagging exceptions.)
>
> I can't give you a definition of art, but I know it when I see it.

Yes, but can you yell "Art!" in a crowded gallery?

--
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| playoffs. Even men in plush animal costumes
| don't get booed at the NBA playoffs."
| -- Fametracker.com

The Midnight Rambler

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Aug 7, 2003, 5:19:48 AM8/7/03
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"Robert Hutchinson" <ser...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Jeffrey Johnson says...
> > Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Joe Blevins:
> >
> > >Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I know
> > >what I like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up everything with
> > >no loose ends or nagging exceptions.)
> >
> > I can't give you a definition of art, but I know it when I see it.
>
> Yes, but can you yell "Art!" in a crowded gallery?

If a bear shit on the Pope in a forest and no one was there, would the NEA
fund it?

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J. Christian Grymyr

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Aug 7, 2003, 7:05:47 AM8/7/03
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If memory serves me correctly, Robert Hutchinson wrote:

>Jeffrey Johnson says...
>> Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Joe Blevins:
>
>> >Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I know
>> >what I like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up everything with
>> >no loose ends or nagging exceptions.)
>
>> I can't give you a definition of art, but I know it when I see it.

>Yes, but can you yell "Art!" in a crowded gallery?

You must remember that art is art. Still on the other hand, water is water,
isn't it? And east is east and west is west. And if you take cranberries and
stew them like applesauce it tastes much more like prunes than rhubarb does.

Now you tell me what you know.

Reaper "The good kind of Marxist" G

Jean

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Aug 7, 2003, 8:46:20 AM8/7/03
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Carl Burke wrote:

Jeffrey? Meet Carl, my new agent.

Jean

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Aug 7, 2003, 9:01:15 AM8/7/03
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Joe Blevins wrote:

> "Jean" <wel...@frii.com> wrote in message
> news:3F316BAD...@frii.com...
> >
> >
> > http://www.mst3k-fic.com/gko.html
>
> This is why I love the abstract ones best of all and consider them first
> among equals. This painting not only works as parody/homage, but it has a
> serenity and grace of its own. In the best tradition of modern abstract
> art, "Botko" is simple without being simplistic. Should there ever be a
> book about MST3K fandom, imagine how wonderful this painting (or the
> similarly minimalist "Botrian") would look adorning the cover. Gorgeous,
> no?

Why, yes. If someone wants to publish my works, who am I to argue?

> I cannot as easily explain my strange affection for Rothko's rectangles. I
> suppose it has something to do with my belief that a finished work of art
> should be a reflection of the process that the artist went through to create
> it. Ideally, the viewer should see the creative process in each brushstroke
> or dollop of paint. That theory sort of covers Van Gogh, Picasso, Rothko,
> and Pollock, not to mention Ralph Steadman with his untamed ink blots and
> manic scratches. But what of Andy Warhol's silkscreens -- created
> mechanically with the intention of showing NO interference by the artist?
> Aren't they equally valid works of art? Yes. No. I don't know. GRRRRR!!!
> Art is hard.

It can be. I've noticed, while making the scifi convention circuit, that the
various tastes in art can differ widely. Right now we see the ascension of
'digital art', which is quite beautiful, but obviously 'manufactured' in an (my
term) artificial medium, beyond the work of human hands. But it is all quite
compelling and beautiful. Others (usually older people, or those with some art
background) prefer the 'painterly' approach you describe. Personallly, I can
see art anywhere, which is why I enjoy painting in so many styles and media.
Abstraction, as you say, allows the viewer a tactile reference to actual
creation of the painting, which is why they find this style more accessible.
Others just like pretty art of things they recognize, which is also cool. Now,
I'm not a big fan of abstraction, and make no claims to understanding it, but
would encourage anyone to 'read' anything into the style that they can, or at
least make the effort, because something is most definitely 'going on' in
there.

> Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I know what I
> like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up everything with no loose
> ends or nagging exceptions.)

Seconded.

> P.S. - Speaking of Ralph Steadman, you owe it to yourself to at least
> *watch* the Criterion DVD of "Fear and Loathing" if only for the magnificent
> main menu in which we see Steadman himself slathering ink on a blank page to
> create the film's logo. (At least I assume it's Steadman; all we see are
> his hands.)

It's always interesting to watch a crowd gather around any artist engaged in
the creation process. Folks become almost mesmerized. I make no claims to
understanding the attraction. 'Art' is a task that people 'do', imo. But I am
sent into raputures by works of art that carry a genuine impact, due to the
great skill, talent, and confidence of the artist.

Jean

Jeffrey Johnson

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:17:51 PM8/7/03
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Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Jean:

Great. Just great. Carl Burke, the Scott Boras of RATMM.

JSJ1TG, you know what this means? This means I'll commission Jean to
make 16 masterpieces at $1 Million per, and then after four years, she'll
have delivered three, and they'll all stink, and I'll have to cut her,
and then she'll go make beautiful paintings for another patron.

Jeffrey Johnson

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Aug 7, 2003, 2:19:33 PM8/7/03
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Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of The Midnight Rambler:

>"Robert Hutchinson" <ser...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Jeffrey Johnson says...
>> > Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Joe Blevins:
>> >
>> > >Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I
>> > >know what I like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up
>> > >everything with no loose ends or nagging exceptions.)
>> >
>> > I can't give you a definition of art, but I know it when I see it.
>>
>> Yes, but can you yell "Art!" in a crowded gallery?
>
>If a bear shit on the Pope in a forest and no one was there, would the
>NEA fund it?

Yes.

JSJ1TG, at least ask a hard question.

Jean

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Aug 7, 2003, 3:34:29 PM8/7/03
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Jeffrey Johnson wrote:

Note to Carl: Need to be more subtle with Jeffrey. He catches on quick.

Jean

Bill Livingston

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Aug 7, 2003, 5:21:37 PM8/7/03
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Previously on "M*A*S*H", Robert Hutchinson wrote:
>Jeffrey Johnson says...
>> Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Joe Blevins:
>>
>> >Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I know
>> >what I like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up everything with
>> >no loose ends or nagging exceptions.)
>>
>> I can't give you a definition of art, but I know it when I see it.
>
>Yes, but can you yell "Art!" in a crowded gallery?

Yes, but can you yell "Art" at the Metrano family reunion?

Bill L.
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Jeffrey Johnson

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Aug 7, 2003, 6:44:23 PM8/7/03
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Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Bill Livingston:

>Previously on "M*A*S*H", Robert Hutchinson wrote:
>>Jeffrey Johnson says...
>>> Embark, dear reader, on a tour of the wisdom of Joe Blevins:
>>>
>>> >Okay, new all-purpose theory: I don't know much about art, but I know
>>> >what I like. (I like it. Neat, succint, and sums up everything with
>>> >no loose ends or nagging exceptions.)
>>>
>>> I can't give you a definition of art, but I know it when I see it.
>>
>>Yes, but can you yell "Art!" in a crowded gallery?
>
>Yes, but can you yell "Art" at the Metrano family reunion?

Sure. Talk your ear off, though. Say, didn't your speaker on the art
black market cancel?

So grab Metrano on art embargos.

JSJ1TG, why? Because I could tell it was there, if I worked hard enough.

Governor Breck

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Aug 8, 2003, 8:26:59 PM8/8/03
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Carl Burke <cbu...@mitre.org> wrote in
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> If you could provide, say, a certain Mr. Diesel for Jean to
> slake her various lusts upon, you might see that painting
> a little sooner. Or maybe not at all, because maybe Jean
> won't have time for painting anything except parts of Vin's
> sleekly muscular anatomy. It's just too hard to predict.

The kind of funny thing is that my 61 year old mother is extremely
hot for Vin Diesel. She seems to be taking this affection out on my
father so more power to them I guess. I should be so active at that
age.
Of course, my sister had to say to me, "Can you imagine Vin Diesel
bangin' Mom?!" Well, no, I had hoped not to, but it looks like the
image has been implanted in my brain. Forever.
--
Governor Breck
governor_breck at yahoo dot com

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