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Re: Ancient Theatrelight control desk

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Atlantic Illumination Entertainment Lighting

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Oct 10, 2009, 8:20:04 AM10/10/09
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Carnations wrote:
> Has anyone had experience with using Theatrelight
> Serial desks prior to the Theatrelight Scenemaster?

*** No, but I have used similar boards from other manufacturers.


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> It has 60 channels with two rows of faders.

> Above the top row of blue faders is a row of red toggle switches that
have 3 positions that correspond > with three blue master faders. These
toggles set the blue faders to work with one of the three blue > master
faders.

*** Those are channel assignment switches. As you discovered, they
assign channels to the three blue submasters. (There is only one "Master"
fader on a board; all others that control groups are submasters.)


> Above the bottom row of red faders is a row of big square flash buttons
that are either yellow or white

*** If there is one for each channel, I would assume that they flash the
corresponding channel to full intensity - or to a set intensity if there
is a flash button fader. I can't explain the colour difference.


> (the light is not very bright where this desk is mounted).

*** You'll need to increase its wattage for the show.


> These red faders are controlled by a red master fader.

*** I would think that the blue faders should have a submaster as well.


> Below the red faders appear to be what perhaps could be described as 12
or so "scene masters" > divided into light green and dark green, which
appear to correspond with a light green and a dark green > master fader. I
haven't figured out how to get these working.

*** They are there to be programmed with scenes. Are there any "Record"
or "Program" buttons or switches?


> Above the master faders grouped to the right of the "scene masters" are
a series of buttons similar to > the flash buttons above the red faders.
One of them is marked "solo" and it blacks out the desk except > for the
flash buttons.

*** Hmm, typically the "Solo" affects the method of flash by blacking out
every channel except the one(s) pressed, as opposed to adding that
channel to the live scene.


> It appears to have automation, as it has a toggle for recording live or
blind, and another toggle for > "capture".

*** Ah ha! Yes. Those are used to program the scene section. Try setting
the board to program live, then set up a scene in the blue or red faders
so as to be live to the stage. Now bring up the scene submaster and one
scene fader. Press "Capture", "Record" or the equivalent. Lower the blue
or red scene and see if the look has been remembered to that scene fader.


> There are a few other master faders, but I have no idea what they're for.

*** As what are they labeled?

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Atlantic Illumination Entertainment Lighting

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Oct 20, 2009, 8:36:00 PM10/20/09
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Carnations wrote:

> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:20:04 +0000, Atlantic Illumination Entertainment
> Lighting wrote:
> > *** Ah ha! Yes. Those are used to program the scene section. Try
> > setting the board to program live, then set up a scene in the blue or
> > red faders so as to be live to the stage. Now bring up the scene
> > submaster and one scene fader. Press "Capture", "Record" or the
> > equivalent. Lower the blue or red scene and see if the look has been
> > remembered to that scene fader.

> Can't recall if I replied to say thanks,

*** You did. (-:


> but the above worked perfectly on this desk. I'll be able to show its
> owner how to use it now. :o)

*** Excellent. Glad I was able to help.

I use equipment from many eras and mind little of when it was made.
Give me 1930s lighting; I don't care - as long as it works, and as long as
it can do what I need for a given show. If it's a manual board, I set each
scene up as required and crossfade manually, even if it means a mad rush
to get that next scene ready. I find that fun and like to see how well I
can do when I have to do it all myself. I have little sympathy for those
that can't work without an automated setup for everything.

I am not an equipment snob and am happy to help anyone with any
equipment. Over the years I have come across setups where the locals have
apologised for them, but as I see it: It's not what one has but how one
uses it. I proceed to show them exactly that and am pleased when they
realise how much their equipment can actually achieve.

Stuart Wheaton

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Oct 20, 2009, 8:54:08 PM10/20/09
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Atlantic Illumination Entertainment Lighting wrote:
> Carnations wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 10 Oct 2009 12:20:04 +0000, Atlantic Illumination Entertainment
>> Lighting wrote:
>>> *** Ah ha! Yes. Those are used to program the scene section. Try
>>> setting the board to program live, then set up a scene in the blue or
>>> red faders so as to be live to the stage. Now bring up the scene
>>> submaster and one scene fader. Press "Capture", "Record" or the
>>> equivalent. Lower the blue or red scene and see if the look has been
>>> remembered to that scene fader.
>
>> Can't recall if I replied to say thanks,
>
> *** You did. (-:
>
>
>> but the above worked perfectly on this desk. I'll be able to show its
>> owner how to use it now. :o)
>
> *** Excellent. Glad I was able to help.
>
> I use equipment from many eras and mind little of when it was made.
> Give me 1930s lighting; I don't care - as long as it works, and as long as
> it can do what I need for a given show. If it's a manual board, I set each
> scene up as required and crossfade manually, even if it means a mad rush
> to get that next scene ready.

Ah! yes the fun of setting fast cue changes on a 2 scene board. I
recall cutting a cardboard strip with the position of each channel
slider cut out, as soon as you get into the other scene, you slide it
in, slap every fader into it's notch and pop it out. For fast scenes,
you can have a pile of these just waiting.

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