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Bob Mosley III  
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 More options Mar 9 1990, 2:09 am
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek
From: mos...@peyote.cactus.org (Bob Mosley III)
Date: 9 Mar 90 07:09:53 GMT
Local: Fri, Mar 9 1990 2:09 am
Subject: Re: The Official Word (was Re: Charter of rec.arts.startrek.info)
In article <1...@ariel.unm.edu>, cwa...@hydra.unm.edu (Chris Wayne SCONS) writes:

>      I'd like to throw in my support for Jim Griffith.  He is doing what he
> was 'hired' for and very well, I think.

...I too, would like to throw in my support for the Griff. He's done a damn
fine job geting r.a.s.i. set up and running, and seems to be doing as well
a job keeping it going.

>  He should not have to explain himself.

...BZZZT! Sorry Chris, but as one who fully believes that unquestioned (and
unanswered) authority leads inevitably to corruption. Now, don't get me
wrong - I'm not saying that Jim will inevitably take over r.a.s. and become
the moder-dictator of that as well. I don't think Jim's THAT power hungry
(:-) :-):-) :-)), but a reasonable request for an explanation should be
honored.

> If you have doubts as to the validity of an item or if you think it should be
> in RASI, send it to Jim and let him decide.  All he can do is refuse it, and
> then you just post it to RAS.

...Again, I feel that if he does decide against posting the submission, he
should explain why if asked (and asked nicely).

>      However, I too like many others, were under the impression RASI was for
> posting:
> parodies,

...uh-uh. That belongs on r.a.s., as these generally draw repeated commentary.
COLLECTIONS of parodies, however, should not be excluded from this. I would
suggest that a vote of the r.a.s. readership be taken to determine if the
parody is worth submitting. And then, only if a request is made to do so
by the author or another contributor.

> stories,

...Nope. I submit all the flack about Neall's "confirmed sold" novel as
evidence against this. Nothing that would go into r.a.s.i. should be
material that would be Rospached (Kill-filed with extreme prejudice).
Some may say that parodies should fall under this category as well, but
look back, people - have you EVER seen anyone get as upset about a parody
as people do over fan fiction? And we havn't even seen hide nor hair of
Lt. Mary Sue around these here parts!

> scripts,

 if script:=fan_fiction
    then post_on_ras
    else if script:=official_paramount_goodies
         then post_on_rasi;

> pictures,

...I'm a little split on this. If these are standard GIF, PICT, TIFF, $#!+
files of Kirk, Spock, Picard, Worf eating a tribble, or a still of Marina
Sirtis from "Blind Date" (or whatever it was called), then stick it...uh...
on r.a.s.

...if it's a set of Autocad or MacDraft blueprints of the "E", a phaser,
or anything else, then that should go in r.a.s.i. if it is in fact based
on official Paramount information.

> lists,

...especially episode lists, novel lists (including group reviews), cast
&crew lists, the infamous redshirt list (i'd like to see a repost of that
if anyone has it), ship lists, anything that has all the data that new
r.a.s. rookies always ask for.

> any newspaper articles

...I've already made my comments on this to Jim in e-mail. To sum up what
I said: F*ck the papers and print the articles, as they'll be castrating
themselves if they make a big stink about it.

> be it new and informative to strickly commercial, whatever.  If this is what
> most people thought, then I would suggest we all take a vote to redefine the
> charter and make it crystal clear as to what is acceptible and what's not.

..I remember someone getting into a big flap on news.admin over the overhauling
of charters some years ago. Has the Spaf ever laid down any "laws" concerning
this?

> In any case, don't flame Jim.

...agreed, by all means!

>      In addition to the above things that should be included in RASI, include
> such things like episode critiques from Mark Leeper and the other one (sorry
> guy, forgot your name - your critique is more famous than you are).  I would
> just limit the 'offical' critiques to 2 or 3 persons.  Set up a list to be
> posted (monthly, semi-annually, quarterly, whatever) that'll have the answers
> to the most commonly asked questions.

...again, agreed as far as the lists go. But I have a problem with the
critiques. Who will determine whether X's reviews are more suited for
r.a.s.i than Y's? And lord knows what Q would do if J(im) said "your
critique is too bland for reposting"...

...good points made, Chris.

                                                                OM


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