Ridiculous Movie Geography
gavin priebe
>>J. Stephen wrote:
>>> Toronto is often substituted for New York.
>>
>>Which led to an interesting episode, in which a director thought the
>>Toronto alley was too clean to pass off as a New York scene, so he had the
>>crew mess it up. When everyone came back the next day, the good sanitation
>>workers of Toronto had cleaned things up again.
I recall reading about something similar in that paragon of journalism
TV Guide. It seems that they were subtitutng for Chicago in the
Canadian US series "Due South" and did a good job of messing up the
streets with fake dirt, but all the graffiti was neat, gramatically
correct and properly spelled.
I thought it sounded stupid but a freeze frame and a VCR proved those
Canuck Vandals just to well educated
Gavin
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Bill Gill
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som...@randomcspam.com says...
Well as far as strange movie geography is
concerned, my favorite is in "True Grit". Most of
the action took place in what is now Southeastern
Oklahoma, where I was born. I must say there has
been a lot of erosion since the late 1800s. At
least I never saw any snow capped mountains while
I was growing up there.
Bill Gill
mike weber
:
the road from the front gate of the hero's Cajun parents.
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Doug Berry
1. Nick Cage on the car phone, shouting that he's following sean
Connery down California, with an immediate cut to Cage's car
flying down a single lane alley. California on Nob Hill is four
lanes wide with two sets of cable car tracks.
2. Somehow they manage to drive all they way down Nob hill into
Chinatown and are then mysteriously back on top of the hill,
heading down Hyde St.
3. Cable Cars do not blow up, and even if the did, they weigh
several tons and don't fly thirty feet into the air.
4. This must have been some chase, since they end up in Los
Angeles! Look at the street signs at the end of the chase
sequence. The signs are white on blue, not SF's black on white.
Also in that movie, they launch a missile at Candlestick Park.
Great, except their radar screen shows the missile flying towards
the Oakland Coliseum.
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> 3. Cable Cars do not blow up, and even if the did, they weigh
> several tons and don't fly thirty feet into the air.
>
They can if you put enough explosives in them. But yeah, cable
cars have, normally speaking, no explosives in them.
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Peter Meilinger
: Doug Berry <grid...@mindspring.com> writes:
This being one of the main reasons I see SF as a wimpy city. Here
in Boston, we have several tons of high explosives in every T bus
or train. And we like it that way!!
Pete
Keith Morrison
> >Well as far as strange movie geography is
> >concerned, my favorite is in "True Grit". Most of
> >the action took place in what is now Southeastern
> >Oklahoma, where I was born. I must say there has
> >been a lot of erosion since the late 1800s. At
> >least I never saw any snow capped mountains while
> >I was growing up there.
> >
> Van Damme's "Universal Soldier" -- i really liked the mountain across
> the road from the front gate of the hero's Cajun parents.
Or the mountains off to the east of New York in "Rumble in the Bronx",
and those majestic, snow capped peaks from the 1940s/50s Hollywood
Mountie movie "Saskatchewan".
--
Keith
Alison Hopkins
Keith Morrison wrote in message <393BE444...@polarnet.ca>...
Scarecrow and Mrs King, altho' it's TV, strictly. I *never* knew there were
so many palm trees in Arlington, VA!
Ali
Alison Hopkins
katm...@yahoo.ca wrote in message <87u2f8j...@smtp.mail.yahoo.com>...
>Doug Berry <grid...@mindspring.com> writes:
>
>
>> 3. Cable Cars do not blow up, and even if the did, they weigh
>> several tons and don't fly thirty feet into the air.
>>
>
> They can if you put enough explosives in them. But yeah, cable
>cars have, normally speaking, no explosives in them.
<snicker> What about the bit in Speed, where wossername drives the bus down
the same bit of freeway half a dozen times, *against* the road markings!
Ali
Dave Weingart
>Or the mountains off to the east of New York in "Rumble in the Bronx",
As a Long Islander, born and raised (well, OK, I was born in Manhattan, but
I was very young at the time) in the Eastern Suburb of the One True City,
I can categorically state that the sandbar/terminal moraine upon which
I love is just chock-FULL of tall, majestic peaks, some rising as high
as *50 feet* above sea level.
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Irina Rempt
> those majestic, snow capped peaks from the 1940s/50s Hollywood
> Mountie movie "Saskatchewan".
That's ridiculous. There's only one place (at least one place where
I've been) that's flatter than Saskatchewan, and that's the
north-east of the Netherlands (Oost-Groningen, for those in the
know). Made me all nostalgic when I got there - I spent exactly six
days in Canada in 1997 and it filled me with longing to last my whole
life.
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Alison Hopkins
John Lorentz wrote in message <393bfd97$0$66...@wodc7nh7.news.uu.net>...
> My own favorite was when Portland got to play New York City in the
>telefilm, "Terror in the Towers" (about the World Trade Center bombing).
>
I suppose I'd best not trot out the old chestnut about Kevin Costner in
Prince of Thieves? :)
Ali
Doug Wickstrom
excited the ether to say:
>In rec.arts.sf.fandom Keith Morrison <kei...@polarnet.ca> wrote:
>
>> those majestic, snow capped peaks from the 1940s/50s Hollywood
>> Mountie movie "Saskatchewan".
>
>That's ridiculous. There's only one place (at least one place where
>I've been) that's flatter than Saskatchewan, and that's the
>north-east of the Netherlands (Oost-Groningen, for those in the
>know). Made me all nostalgic when I got there - I spent exactly six
>days in Canada in 1997 and it filled me with longing to last my whole
>life.
Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
--
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"This would be a better world for children if the parents had to eat
the spinach." --Groucho Marx
Keith Morrison
>
> In rec.arts.sf.fandom Keith Morrison <kei...@polarnet.ca> wrote:
>
> > those majestic, snow capped peaks from the 1940s/50s Hollywood
> > Mountie movie "Saskatchewan".
>
> That's ridiculous. There's only one place (at least one place where
> I've been) that's flatter than Saskatchewan, and that's the
> north-east of the Netherlands (Oost-Groningen, for those in the
> know). Made me all nostalgic when I got there - I spent exactly six
> days in Canada in 1997 and it filled me with longing to last my whole
> life.
Comments from a Saskatchewan-born comedian:
"Those guys who climbed to the top of grain silos to make repairs,
they were like astronauts to us. Most of the kids couldn't imagine
being that high up."
"Now, there are places in Saskatchewan that aren't flat. Well,
at least compared to the rest of the province. Most people from
away would still call them flat. But that's just because they
don't know how flat flat is until they've seen flat here."
--
Keith
Alison Hopkins
Doug Wickstrom wrote in message ...
>Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
>Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
>
I thought Wichita was amazingly flat. And I keep reading all this with a
sort of Noel Coward voice in my head.
Ali
mike weber
<kei...@polarnet.ca> typed
:
that.
mike weber
:
>Doug Berry <grid...@mindspring.com> writes:
>
>
>> 3. Cable Cars do not blow up, and even if the did, they weigh
>> several tons and don't fly thirty feet into the air.
>>
>
> They can if you put enough explosives in them. But yeah, cable
>cars have, normally speaking, no explosives in them.
Or anything else particularly flammable, aside from matches and
lighter fluid/butane the passengers may be carrying.
Mary Kay Kare
<fn...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
Well, not comparatively speaking. I lived in Wichita 2 years, and in
Oklahoma lots of years, and in the Panhandle of Texas 1 year (which lasted
at least a century), but I'd never seen anything as flat as Winnipeg and
environs. There's a park there named after my late father-in-law in which
they built an artificial hill so the children of Winnipeg would know what
one looked like. I am not making this up. I have pictures.
MK
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mike weber
<kei...@polarnet.ca> typed
:
>mike weber wrote:
>
>> >Well as far as strange movie geography is
>> >concerned, my favorite is in "True Grit". Most of
>> >the action took place in what is now Southeastern
>> >Oklahoma, where I was born. I must say there has
>> >been a lot of erosion since the late 1800s. At
>> >least I never saw any snow capped mountains while
>> >I was growing up there.
>> >
>> Van Damme's "Universal Soldier" -- i really liked the mountain across
>> the road from the front gate of the hero's Cajun parents.
>
>Mountie movie "Saskatchewan".
>
Or the high hill overlooking Muncie Indiana, which is apparently a
community of basement-less single story slab houses with Very Large
white pines in their yards, according to "Close Encounters".
(And i'll reserve the "Family Lines" locomotive sitting at the station
in Arizona in the same film for another thread...)
Doug Wickstrom
weber) excited the ether to say:
>On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 14:31:13 -0600, Keith Morrison
><kei...@polarnet.ca> typed
>:
>>Irina Rempt wrote:
>>>
>>> In rec.arts.sf.fandom Keith Morrison <kei...@polarnet.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> > those majestic, snow capped peaks from the 1940s/50s Hollywood
>>> > Mountie movie "Saskatchewan".
>>>
>>> That's ridiculous. There's only one place (at least one place where
>>> I've been) that's flatter than Saskatchewan, and that's the
>>> north-east of the Netherlands (Oost-Groningen, for those in the
>>> know). Made me all nostalgic when I got there - I spent exactly six
>>> days in Canada in 1997 and it filled me with longing to last my whole
>>> life.
>>
>>Comments from a Saskatchewan-born comedian:
>>
>> "Those guys who climbed to the top of grain silos to make repairs,
>> they were like astronauts to us. Most of the kids couldn't imagine
>> being that high up."
>>
>> "Now, there are places in Saskatchewan that aren't flat. Well,
>> at least compared to the rest of the province. Most people from
>> away would still call them flat. But that's just because they
>> don't know how flat flat is until they've seen flat here."
>>
>I could "hear" Garrison Keilor's voice the whole time i was reading
>that.
Why? He's from Anoka, Minnesota.
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MLG
<kei...@polarnet.ca> writes
> "Those guys who climbed to the top of grain silos to make repairs,
> they were like astronauts to us. Most of the kids couldn't imagine
> being that high up."
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Cambias
ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare) wrote:
> In article <8hh2sl$8s3$2...@lure.pipex.net>, "Alison Hopkins"
> <fn...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>
> > Doug Wickstrom wrote in message ...
> >
> >
> > >Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
> > >Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
> > >
> >
> >
> > I thought Wichita was amazingly flat. And I keep reading all this with a
> > sort of Noel Coward voice in my head.
> >
> Well, not comparatively speaking. I lived in Wichita 2 years, and in
> Oklahoma lots of years, and in the Panhandle of Texas 1 year (which lasted
> at least a century), but I'd never seen anything as flat as Winnipeg and
> environs. There's a park there named after my late father-in-law in which
> they built an artificial hill so the children of Winnipeg would know what
> one looked like. I am not making this up. I have pictures.
>
Louisiana scores well in the Pretty Damn Flat category. New Orleans also
has an artificial hill in Audubon Park so the kids will be able to
experience being higher than the surrounding land.
Currently I live in Ithaca NY; there is more altitude difference between
our house and my wife's office on the Cornell campus than there is in the
entire state of Louisiana.
Beat that, wheat-boys.
Cambias
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(Costner's a whole category onto himself, especially after taking THE
POSTMAN, a novel set in the green Willamette Valley or Oregon, and moving
the movie in the _desert_ parts of eastern Oregon & Washington.)
Alison Hopkins
John Lorentz wrote in message <393c2223$0$66...@wodc7nh7.news.uu.net>...
>"Alison Hopkins" <fn...@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> John Lorentz wrote in message <393bfd97$0$66...@wodc7nh7.news.uu.net>...
>> > My own favorite was when Portland got to play New York City in the
>> >telefilm, "Terror in the Towers" (about the World Trade Center bombing).
>> >
>>
>> I suppose I'd best not trot out the old chestnut about Kevin Costner in
>> Prince of Thieves? :)
>>
>
>"Unlike other Robin Hoods, I speak with an English accent!"
>
>(Robin Hood: Men In Tights)
<snicker> Oh, I had no issue with the "accent", we'd hardly have understood
what he actually said. :) I do love that line, tho'.
>
>
>(Costner's a whole category onto himself, especially after taking THE
>POSTMAN, a novel set in the green Willamette Valley or Oregon, and moving
>the movie in the _desert_ parts of eastern Oregon & Washington.)
Hm.Changes the sense of it, somewhat, yes?
Ali
Gary Poole
> Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
> Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
Try the Floida Keys. Averages abour four feet above sea level for the
entire island chain. That's flat...
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Gary Poole
> The best one I've seen was the big chase scene in "The Rock."
In the same vein, the move "Fled" had a chase scene that started near
Stone Mountain Park (about 25 miles northeast of Atlanta), cut to a
parkway about 15 miles to the west, then downtown, then back out to the
mountain, and then to the southside of the city near the airport.
All told, the five minute chase covered an area larger than the State of
Delware. Not bad...
--
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mike weber
<nims...@worldnet.att.net> typed
:
>>I could "hear" Garrison Keilor's voice the whole time i was reading
>>that.
>
>Why? He's from Anoka, Minnesota.
>
Because it reads exactly like a Keillor "News from Lake Wobegone"
monolog, regardless of where it's about or where Keillor is from.
Wim Lewis
John Lorentz <jlor...@spiritone.com> wrote:
>(Costner's a whole category onto himself, especially after taking THE
>POSTMAN, a novel set in the green Willamette Valley or Oregon, and moving
>the movie in the _desert_ parts of eastern Oregon & Washington.)
Well, everyone knows that post-apocalyptic movies are set in deserts. Even
in _Waterworld_, it was made clear that the best way to obtain drinking
water was to put your own urine through a filter ...
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mike weber
<gary...@radio-chattanooga.com> typed
:
>Doug Berry wrote:
>
>> The best one I've seen was the big chase scene in "The Rock."
>
>In the same vein, the move "Fled" had a chase scene that started near
>Stone Mountain Park (about 25 miles northeast of Atlanta), cut to a
>parkway about 15 miles to the west, then downtown, then back out to the
>mountain, and then to the southside of the city near the airport.
>
>All told, the five minute chase covered an area larger than the State of
>Delware. Not bad...
>
something like fifteen miles of railroad track in a couple minutes of
the opening sequences of "Sharkie's Machine"...
Mark Hanson
gavin priebe wrote:
> >>J. Stephen wrote:
>
> >>> Toronto is often substituted for New York.
> >>
> >>Which led to an interesting episode, in which a director thought the
> >>Toronto alley was too clean to pass off as a New York scene, so he had the
> >>crew mess it up. When everyone came back the next day, the good sanitation
> >>workers of Toronto had cleaned things up again.
Isn't that an urban legend, along the lines of people gift-wrapping their trash during a sanitation strike, in hopes that
someone will steal it?
Mark
James Nicoll
Gary Poole <gary...@radio-chattanooga.com> wrote:
>Doug Wickstrom wrote:
>
>> Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
>> Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
>
>Try the Floida Keys. Averages abour four feet above sea level for the
>entire island chain. That's flat...
Don't storm surges hit 10 meters?
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>
><snicker> What about the bit in Speed, where wossername drives the bus down
>the same bit of freeway half a dozen times, *against* the road markings!
>
>Ali
There's the ubiquitous Green VeeDub Beetle in the car chase scene in
"Bullitt". As Steve McQueen goes haring after the Bad Guys down the
hills of San Fransisco, this poor little German Bug gets in front of
them three or four times! Amazing acceleration, really, from a 1300cc
flat-four.
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Endy
Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
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inspiration, sat down on Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:09:10 -0400 to
write:
>In article <kare-05060...@c797629-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com>,
>ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare) wrote:
>> Well, not comparatively speaking. I lived in Wichita 2 years, and in
>> Oklahoma lots of years, and in the Panhandle of Texas 1 year (which lasted
>> at least a century), but I'd never seen anything as flat as Winnipeg and
>> environs. There's a park there named after my late father-in-law in which
>> they built an artificial hill so the children of Winnipeg would know what
>> one looked like. I am not making this up. I have pictures.
>>
>Louisiana scores well in the Pretty Damn Flat category. New Orleans also
>has an artificial hill in Audubon Park so the kids will be able to
>experience being higher than the surrounding land.
I love taking tourists from flat areas out to the Wharf. They
simply can't believe that we actually live on these hills. Some
refuse to believe that I'm actually driving on streets intended
for traffic.
I've had entire vans go silent when I stop for a light near the
crest of a hill.. I look back, and everybody is *holding their
breath*, white-knuckling the seats. Better than a
roller-coaster.
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Rev. Cyohtee
and issued forth:
>Doug Berry wrote:
>
>> The best one I've seen was the big chase scene in "The Rock."
>
>In the same vein, the move "Fled" had a chase scene that started near
>Stone Mountain Park (about 25 miles northeast of Atlanta), cut to a
>parkway about 15 miles to the west, then downtown, then back out to the
>mountain, and then to the southside of the city near the airport.
>
>All told, the five minute chase covered an area larger than the State of
>Delware. Not bad...
Running Scared. Chase scene that starts on the runway at O'hare
airport, on to the service road out of O'hare somehow magically
landing on I-190 out of O'hare (there is no access from the access
road to the expressway) exiting at River road into downtown Skokie (a
suburb some 15 miles NW of the airport and on a different expressway
system) on Oakton St, which had no highway access, in a spot 2 miles
from the Edens expressway which it only crosses over, turning onto the
Skokie Swift train tracks which magically turn into the subway tunnel
in downtown Chicago (another 15 miles south) end exiting from the
subway onto the Ravenswood line Elevated train system, which was a
branch that heads in the opposite direction from the way they are
heading and connected back on the North side of the subway tunnel
before the location they entered the subway from.
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> : It's not the movies, but my cousin in California used to laugh that The
> : Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
> : area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
Heck, to twist this back towards SF (though not movies), think of the
shots in Third Rock from the Sun when the Solomons are in a car near
a lake. Mountains are clearly in the background. There are
no mountains in Ohio.
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Marcia MacIan
<kei...@polarnet.ca> wrote:
> Or the mountains off to the east of New York in "Rumble in the Bronx",
I was utterly ROFL the first time I saw "Rumble in the Bronx"...near the
beginning, one of the characters gestures at the skyline around him and
says, "This is New York!" And this long-time TV watcher replied, "No,
it's Vancouver!" (So many shows have been filmed in Vancouver recently
that its skyline has become quite recognizable to me...)
Steven Furlong
> Or the mountains off to the east of New York in "Rumble in the Bronx",
That was the mountain of garbage once other states stopped taking
NYC's trash.
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James Battista
: It's not the movies, but my cousin in California used to laugh that The
: Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
: area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
ISTR that the first season (or at least the chase scenes etc) were really
shot in GA; you could see the red clay.
It was after that that they moved to Korea^H^H^H^H^HL.A.
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Mary Kay Kare
kras...@mindspring.com wrote:
> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 17:50:29 -0400, Gary Poole
> <gary...@radio-chattanooga.com> typed
> :
> >Doug Berry wrote:
> >
> >> The best one I've seen was the big chase scene in "The Rock."
> >
> >In the same vein, the move "Fled" had a chase scene that started near
> >Stone Mountain Park (about 25 miles northeast of Atlanta), cut to a
> >parkway about 15 miles to the west, then downtown, then back out to the
> >mountain, and then to the southside of the city near the airport.
> >
> >All told, the five minute chase covered an area larger than the State of
> >Delware. Not bad...
> >
> Let's not even discuss "Smokey & the Bandit"
Smokey and the Bandit is a wonderful movie with no connection whatsoever
to reality.
Chad Irby
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Mary Kay Kare
<grid...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I love taking tourists from flat areas out to the Wharf. They
> simply can't believe that we actually live on these hills. Some
> refuse to believe that I'm actually driving on streets intended
> for traffic.
>
> I've had entire vans go silent when I stop for a light near the
> crest of a hill.. I look back, and everybody is *holding their
> breath*, white-knuckling the seats. Better than a
> roller-coaster.
When I was first taken on a tour of SF and its hills, I was living in
Michigan. I kept shaking my head and reapeating, "It's a damn good thing
it doesn't snow or freeze here."
Cue stories of frost and snow in SF.
Mary Kay Kare
wrote:
> In rec.arts.sf.written Endy <endy...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote:
> : It's not the movies, but my cousin in California used to laugh that The
> : Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
> : area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
>
> ISTR that the first season (or at least the chase scenes etc) were really
> shot in GA; you could see the red clay.
>
There are, in fact, other areas of the country with red clay. Central
Oklahoma for example...
MK--who doesn't know whether California has any, but doubts it
katm...@yahoo.ca
> How about a geographical mistake in the title of the film?
>
> "Krakatoa, East of Java"
>
> Krakatoa is, of course, located in the straits between Java and
> Sumatra... on the *west* side of Java.
Be fair, if you head east from Java, and don't stop, you'll
eventually reach Krakatoa.
--
Marc el Kato
Lucy Kemnitzer
wrote:
>In article <8hhfer$2cg$2...@news.duke.edu>, James Battista <jim...@duke.edu>
>wrote:
>
>> In rec.arts.sf.written Endy <endy...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote:
>> : It's not the movies, but my cousin in California used to laugh that The
>> : Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
>> : area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
>>
>> ISTR that the first season (or at least the chase scenes etc) were really
>> shot in GA; you could see the red clay.
>>
>There are, in fact, other areas of the country with red clay. Central
>Oklahoma for example...
>
> MK--who doesn't know whether California has any, but doubts it
oh, probably: I can almost think of some. But what I've seen
mostly is yellow and black and brown.
One of the reasons I hate Strunk and White is that it cites "brown
dirt" as a redundancy.
Lucy Kemnitzer
mike weber
<grid...@mindspring.com> typed
:
>I love taking tourists from flat areas out to the Wharf. They
>simply can't believe that we actually live on these hills. Some
>refuse to believe that I'm actually driving on streets intended
>for traffic.
>
>I've had entire vans go silent when I stop for a light near the
>crest of a hill.. I look back, and everybody is *holding their
>breath*, white-knuckling the seats. Better than a
>roller-coaster.
San Francisco's streets killed Honda's plans to introduce a rather
neat little two-seater sports roadster in the US some years before
they brought in the 600 -- they toured it all over the US and it got
wonderful response and then they took it to SanFran and it couldn't
get up the hills.
And the really couldn't -- given the power train design --
significantly increase power.
Another Good Idea defeated by Cold Hard Reality.
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mike weber -- kras...@mindspring.com
mike weber
<endy...@mindspring.com.invalid> typed
:
>It's not the movies, but my cousin in California used to laugh that The
>Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
>area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
>
brother is in the third episode. After that they moved Out West, but
they kept getting the cars from a company here in Atlant area; i
remember looking to my right one day on I-20 west and seeing a
transporter with *four* identical "Geleral Lee"s heading west in the
next lane over.
I also recall the sequence in which Boss Hogg's car gets stuck on the
railroad tracks and narrowly misses being run down by the Coast
Daylight -- the *steam* version.
mike weber
typed
:
>In article <393c274b...@news.mindspring.com>,
>kras...@mindspring.com wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 17:50:29 -0400, Gary Poole
>> <gary...@radio-chattanooga.com> typed
>> :
>> >Doug Berry wrote:
>> >
>> >> The best one I've seen was the big chase scene in "The Rock."
>> >
>> >In the same vein, the move "Fled" had a chase scene that started near
>> >Stone Mountain Park (about 25 miles northeast of Atlanta), cut to a
>> >parkway about 15 miles to the west, then downtown, then back out to the
>> >mountain, and then to the southside of the city near the airport.
>> >
>> >All told, the five minute chase covered an area larger than the State of
>> >Delware. Not bad...
>> >
>> Let's not even discuss "Smokey & the Bandit"
>
>Smokey and the Bandit is a wonderful movie with no connection whatsoever
>to reality.
>
south of Atlanta where my mother and grandmother live. If they'
rotated the camera about fifteen degrees left while Bandit and Snowman
were arriving at the "beer warehouse" in "Texarkana", they'd have had
my grandmother's Methodist church in shot.
James Battista
: In article <8hhfer$2cg$2...@news.duke.edu>, James Battista <jim...@duke.edu>
: wrote:
:> In rec.arts.sf.written Endy <endy...@mindspring.com.invalid> wrote:
:> : It's not the movies, but my cousin in California used to laugh that The
:> : Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
:> : area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
:>
:> ISTR that the first season (or at least the chase scenes etc) were really
:> shot in GA; you could see the red clay.
:>
: There are, in fact, other areas of the country with red clay. Central
: Oklahoma for example...
Well, duh. I mean, I went to Virginia (CLAS 92) and still haven't washed all
the red clay out of my skin.
But AFAIK, CA does not have red clay. Ergo it was not CA but somewhere with
red clay and mountainettes, and I can't think of any reason not to just go
to GA, or maybe the bits of TN right next to it.
Doug Wickstrom
<mor...@dreyfuss.demon.co.uk> excited the ether to say:
>Paging East Anglian Mountain Rescue... paging East Anglian Mountain
>Rescue... mole hill spotted... mole hill spotted....
No, wait! Sorry, it's just Ely.
--
Doug Wickstrom
Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.
Kinnickkinnick
>Doug Wickstrom wrote:
>
>> Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
>> Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
>
>Try the Floida Keys. Averages abour four feet above sea level for the
>entire island chain. That's flat...
Well, heck, the highest point in the entire *state* of Florida is
something like 300 feet, and that's right near the border with Georgia. Not
exactly a mountainous area.
MIKE (a.k.a. "Progbear")
make GEORYN disappear to reply
"The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life." --Edith Massey
N.P.:"Soft Focus"- C o s m o s F a c t o r y / A n O l d C a s t l e
I n T r a n s s y l v a n i a
Joe Mason
>> "Krakatoa, East of Java"
>>
>> Krakatoa is, of course, located in the straits between Java and
>> Sumatra... on the *west* side of Java.
>
> Be fair, if you head east from Java, and don't stop, you'll
>eventually reach Krakatoa.
I saw the title and assumed it was an alternate history. Or a disaster movie.
(Wow, that's some earthquake!)
Joe
Joe Mason
>I also recall the sequence in which Boss Hogg's car gets stuck on the
>railroad tracks and narrowly misses being run down by the Coast
>Daylight -- the *steam* version.
*The* sequence? Didn't that happen every episode?
Joe
Marilee J. Layman
(Cambias) wrote:
>In article <kare-05060...@c797629-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com>,
>ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare) wrote:
>
>> In article <8hh2sl$8s3$2...@lure.pipex.net>, "Alison Hopkins"
>> <fn...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Doug Wickstrom wrote in message ...
>> >
>> >
>> > >Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
>> > >Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > I thought Wichita was amazingly flat. And I keep reading all this with a
>> > sort of Noel Coward voice in my head.
>> >
>> Well, not comparatively speaking. I lived in Wichita 2 years, and in
>> Oklahoma lots of years, and in the Panhandle of Texas 1 year (which lasted
>> at least a century), but I'd never seen anything as flat as Winnipeg and
>> environs. There's a park there named after my late father-in-law in which
>> they built an artificial hill so the children of Winnipeg would know what
>> one looked like. I am not making this up. I have pictures.
>>
>Louisiana scores well in the Pretty Damn Flat category. New Orleans also
>has an artificial hill in Audubon Park so the kids will be able to
>experience being higher than the surrounding land.
Virginia Beach is very flat, but their artificial mountain, Mt.
Trashmore, grew out of a city dump.
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Mary Kay Kare
wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 00:25:01 GMT, ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare)
> typed
> >Smokey and the Bandit is a wonderful movie with no connection whatsoever
> >to reality.
> >
> Yup. And they shot major parts of it in and around the town just
> south of Atlanta where my mother and grandmother live. If they'
> rotated the camera about fifteen degrees left while Bandit and Snowman
> were arriving at the "beer warehouse" in "Texarkana", they'd have had
> my grandmother's Methodist church in shot.
So which do you think is the better Burt Reynolds movie, Smokey and the
Bandit or Hooper? This was an ongoing argument between Bob and me. S & B
is a lot of fun, but I just *love* Hooper
MK
mike weber
typed
:
I watched the first three -- looking for Janice's brother -- and i
think i watched two after that.
Phil Fraering
> > Van Damme's "Universal Soldier" -- i really liked the mountain across
> > the road from the front gate of the hero's Cajun parents.
Hey, don't laugh... when they remade "The Thing" down in Abbeville,
the backstory was the town was a ski resort.
Riiiiggghhhttt.
> Or the mountains off to the east of New York in "Rumble in the Bronx",
Hey, I hear if you go to those mountains, you can find the place that
teaches Jackie Chan style Kung Fu.
--
Phil Fraering "One day, Pinky, A MOUSE shall rule, and it is the
p...@globalreach.net humans who will be forced to endure these humiliating
/Will work for tape/ diversions!"
"You mean like Orlando, Brain?"
Phil Fraering
> Gary Poole wrote:
>
> >Doug Wickstrom wrote:
> >
> >> Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
> >> Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
> >
> >Try the Floida Keys. Averages abour four feet above sea level for the
> >entire island chain. That's flat...
>
> Well, heck, the highest point in the entire *state* of Florida is
> something like 300 feet, and that's right near the border with Georgia. Not
> exactly a mountainous area.
Three hundred feet sounds mountainous to me. :-)
Phil Fraering
> It's not the movies, but my cousin in California used to laugh that The
> Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
> area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
I've seen TV shows allegedly taking place in Louisiana where they
showed typical South California hilly scrub desert in the background.
mike weber
typed
:
>In article <393c59f...@news.mindspring.com>, kras...@mindspring.com
>wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 00:25:01 GMT, ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare)
>> typed
>> >Smokey and the Bandit is a wonderful movie with no connection whatsoever
>> >to reality.
>> >
>> Yup. And they shot major parts of it in and around the town just
>> south of Atlanta where my mother and grandmother live. If they'
>> rotated the camera about fifteen degrees left while Bandit and Snowman
>> were arriving at the "beer warehouse" in "Texarkana", they'd have had
>> my grandmother's Methodist church in shot.
>
>So which do you think is the better Burt Reynolds movie, Smokey and the
>Bandit or Hooper? This was an ongoing argument between Bob and me. S & B
>is a lot of fun, but I just *love* Hooper
>
to run only the "Damnation Alley" sequence and cackle maniacally as
her old apartment was blown up.
Joyce Reynolds-Ward
(Cambias) wrote:
snip
>Louisiana scores well in the Pretty Damn Flat category. New Orleans also
>has an artificial hill in Audubon Park so the kids will be able to
>experience being higher than the surrounding land.
I think Florida's right up there; one of the most amusing (to
me) sight is the one designating a pass in Everglades National
Park....all of 4 ft! (mind you, I live in the shadow of Mt. Hood, Mt.
St. Helens & Mt. Adams plus have a passing familiarity with Mt.
Rainier...).
It's a hoot when the highest hills around are garbage dumps and
highway overpasses.....
jrw
(altho San Antonio seemed pretty dang flat as well....)
Ross TenEyck
>"Endy" <endy...@mindspring.com.invalid> writes:
>> It's not the movies, but my cousin in California used to laugh that The
>> Dukes of Hazzard that was supposedly taking place in rural Alabama/Georgia
>> area, had the Sierra Mountains in the background of most scenes.
>I've seen TV shows allegedly taking place in Louisiana where they
>showed typical South California hilly scrub desert in the background.
In the second Austin Powers movie, at one point Austin and what's-
her-name are supposedly driving through the English countryside --
you can tell because they pass a sign that says "English Countryside"
-- and Austin looks out at the hilly scrub desert and remarks,
"The great thing about England is that it in no way resembles
southern California."
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ten...@alumni.caltech.edu \ like smoke, sunlight carries the hot-metal
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Ray Radlein
>
> How about a geographical mistake in the title of the film?
>
>
> Krakatoa is, of course, located in the straits between Java and
> Sumatra... on the *west* side of Java.
Oh, sure it is, *now*.
That was *some* explosion.
- Ray R.
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Irina Rempt
> Eastern North Dakota, northwestern Minnesota, and southern
> Manitoba are flatter than Saskatchewan.
Ah, but I've never been there. Have you been to Oost-Groningen? I can
recommend it :-)
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> simply can't believe that we actually live on these hills. Some
> refuse to believe that I'm actually driving on streets intended
> for traffic.
>
> I've had entire vans go silent when I stop for a light near the
> crest of a hill.. I look back, and everybody is *holding their
> breath*, white-knuckling the seats. Better than a
> roller-coaster.
you've taken a pick-up truck with a six horse trailer through
San Francisco, stopped at a traffic light on a hill, and had a
car stop six inches behind you. Now try to get going without rolling
back into them!
There are a lot of cities with hills, but the roads have
traditionally spiraled around them. I have read that San Francisco
was laid our with streets going straight up the hills because
they had the cable cars at that time, which are essentially
indifferent to slope. Except for the passengers sliding off their
seats a cable car could ascend a vertical slope, just like an
elevator.
Peter Wezeman, anti-social Darwinist
"Carpe Cyprinidae"
David Goldfarb
Kinnickkinnick <prog...@aol.comGEORYN> wrote:
> For all their good intentions, Hollywood always seems to get San Francisco
>wrong. Even in "Vertigo", I couldn't help but marvel at how no matter where
>anyone was going, they managed to find parking *right in front* of wherever it
>is they wanted to go (a nigh impossibility even then).
And how about _Star Trek IV_, where Kirk and Spock visit the aquarium
in San Francisco...which is quite clearly on the *Marin County* side
of the Golden Gate Bridge?
--
David Goldfarb <*>|"I suppose an idiot plot is better than
gold...@ocf.berkeley.edu | no plot at all."
gold...@csua.berkeley.edu |
aste...@slip.net | -- Katie Schwarz
Amanda Frances Bankier
: On Mon, 05 Jun 2000 02:53:03 GMT,
: gavin priebe <som...@randomcspam.com> scripsit:
: >I recall reading about something similar in that paragon of journalism
: >TV Guide. It seems that they were subtitutng for Chicago in the
: >Canadian US series "Due South" and did a good job of messing up the
: >streets with fake dirt, but all the graffiti was neat, gramatically
: >correct and properly spelled.
: >I thought it sounded stupid but a freeze frame and a VCR proved those
: >Canuck Vandals just to well educated
: Despite the competing styles of really rocco calligraphy much of the
: graffiti is being executed in, I have observed some number of spelling
: errors in it. (Or really odd orthography errors, I do suppose.)
: And, really and truly, there's plenty of dirt in Toronto.
: _And_ potholes.
A really precious resource for the film crews in Toronto is all the
tacky, run down, but _safe_ neighbourhoods available to shoot in. I was
dropping a friend off after we had been to a movie, and we found he was
going to have to walk _through_ a movie to get there. The director,
continuity person and video monitor were camped right in front of the
narrow access to the side of the shop he lived over, and we waited for Lou
Gosset Jr. and a very young co-star to finish a scene before asking to
pass through. His block is very popular and the marginal businesses love
to be paid to have signs and window displays changed for a few hours.
Letters have been sent round telling the locals not to worry about the
gunshots shortly after midnight next Tuesday . . .
One evening I was driving through a normally deserted area near the
harbour when a frantic production assistant waved me down an asked me to
_please_ park and turn my lights off. A Philadelpia police car prowled
slowly past and I was thanked and sent on my way --- I have no idea what
the movie may have been
Makes life interesting, and probably contributes to the safety of the
streets as well as benefiting from it!
--
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cx...@torfree.net
Marty Cantor
100...@green.weeg.uiowa.edu>,
I remember when I drove up to San Francisco several times back when I
was driving MGAs (that would be in the late '50s and '60s). I quite
agree with your cousin that it is a hairy driving experience (even with
the small automobiles I was driving). I still drive a stick-shift car
(a '91 Saturn), but I have finally matured enough to know that I do not
want to drive it in San Francisco). The mountains around here are
interesting enough to satisfy any craving I might have for driving on
tilted surfaces. At least they do not have stop-lights at the very top
of grades. *shudder*
--
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Before you buy.
Gary Poole
> >Try the Floida Keys. Averages abour four feet above sea level for the
> >entire island chain. That's flat...
>
> Don't storm surges hit 10 meters?
Not usiully that high, what with the shallow waters are sich surrounding
us. The most I've seen is about 3 to 4 meters. Even so, it is not
uncommon to see a good portion of a key submerged during a good storm.
I was living in Key West during the first Hurricane Floyd (1987) and
watched the entire island "sink" as the storm came ashore at high tide
with about a 4 meter storm surge. Was rather cool, in a way, and the
reason why Key West (like New Orleans, and for the same reason) has no
below ground cemetaries.
--
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Internet Services Manager
Radio Chattanooga, Inc.
http://radio-chattanooga.com
Gary Poole
> So which do you think is the better Burt Reynolds movie, Smokey and the
> Bandit or Hooper? This was an ongoing argument between Bob and me. S &
> B is a lot of fun, but I just *love* Hooper
Hooper, most definately.
Laura Haywood-Cory
Medical College of Virginia. It was somewhat jarring when one minute the
movie would be in Chapel Hill (minimum 3 hours from mountains), then
about 30 minutes' travel time in the movie would take the characters to
the Virginia mountains.
-Laura
--
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Raleigh, Durham, Chapel Hill - monthly sf meetings
Trinoc-coN - http://www.trinoc-con.org
the Triangle's sf conference, 9/29-10/1/2000
katm...@yahoo.ca
Well, if we're going to talk about TV shows too, how about
Student Bodies? You know, the teen show about typical American high
school students, going to a typical American High School? Which is
actually shot in my home town, Montreal Canada.
--
Marc el Kato
Gary Poole
> But AFAIK, CA does not have red clay. Ergo it was not CA but somewhere
> with red clay and mountainettes, and I can't think of any reason not to
> just go to GA, or maybe the bits of TN right next to it.
Yes, we have both red clay and mountains here in Tennessee. AFAIK, most
of the "Dukes of Hazzard" was shot in Georgia. But that was a long time
ago, and I preferred the "A-Team" anyway.
Dorothy J Heydt
<grid...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> I love taking tourists from flat areas out to the Wharf. They
> simply can't believe that we actually live on these hills. Some
> refuse to believe that I'm actually driving on streets intended
> for traffic.
Hal's favorite street-for-terrifying-tourists is Filbert, one
block over from Lombard. You've all seen pictures of that one
block of Lombard that descends a steep hill by curving back and
forth and back and forth.
Well, one block over, Filbert descends the same hill by going
straight down.
As you go over the crest of the hill, in most vehicles, you
cannot see the road beneath you. It looks as if you're going
right over a cliff.
N.B. both streets are one-way-only, down, on that hill.
Dorothy J. Heydt
Albany, California
djh...@kithrup.com
http://www.kithrup.com/~djheydt
Dorothy J Heydt
David Goldfarb <gold...@OCF.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>
>And how about _Star Trek IV_, where Kirk and Spock visit the aquarium
>in San Francisco...which is quite clearly on the *Marin County* side
>of the Golden Gate Bridge?
Hmmmm.... I thought they were at the Monterey Aquarium; that's
certainly where they filmed it.
But, then, it's an alternate reality, otherwise Khan Noonien
Singh and his band of supermen would be taking over about now.
Dorothy J Heydt
James Battista <jim...@duke.edu> wrote:
>
>But AFAIK, CA does not have red clay. Ergo it was not CA but somewhere with
>red clay and mountainettes, and I can't think of any reason not to just go
>to GA, or maybe the bits of TN right next to it.
I don't know about red *clay*, most of the clay I've seen in situ
in California is medium to pale tan; but we have lots of red
dirt, up in the Sierra foothills e.g. Apparently it dates back
to that archaic time when oxidizing bacteria oxidized so much
iron as to lower the oxygen content of the atmosphere by
considerably, and lay down these huge red deposits.
Chad Irby
> My cousin says that you haven't driven a stick shift until
> you've taken a pick-up truck with a six horse trailer through
> San Francisco, stopped at a traffic light on a hill, and had a
> car stop six inches behind you. Now try to get going without rolling
> back into them!
Why?
Let the trailer roll back into their front grill, take your time about
putting the truck into gear, and take off whenever you feel like it.
--
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ci...@cfl.rr.com \ for some reason, refer to me as an "optimist."
Erik V. Olson
>
>Running Scared. Chase scene that starts on the runway at O'hare
>airport, on to the service road out of O'hare somehow magically
>landing on I-190 out of O'hare (there is no access from the access
>road to the expressway) exiting at River road into downtown Skokie (a
>suburb some 15 miles NW of the airport and on a different expressway
>system) on Oakton St, which had no highway access, in a spot 2 miles
>from the Edens expressway which it only crosses over, turning onto the
>Skokie Swift train tracks which magically turn into the subway tunnel
>in downtown Chicago (another 15 miles south) end exiting from the
>subway onto the Ravenswood line Elevated train system, which was a
>branch that heads in the opposite direction from the way they are
>heading and connected back on the North side of the subway tunnel
>before the location they entered the subway from.
You mean you don't know that shortcut?
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Chad Irby
> Hal's favorite street-for-terrifying-tourists is Filbert, one
> block over from Lombard. You've all seen pictures of that one
> block of Lombard that descends a steep hill by curving back and
> forth and back and forth.
>
> Well, one block over, Filbert descends the same hill by going
> straight down.
A couple of years ago, I made the mistake of going skating in San Fran.
On speed skates. Which have no brakes. I was doing okay, until I
realized that I had slowly been going uphill for a half-hour, and was
pretty much looking downhill in every direction. I thought very hard
about it, then took off my skates and socks and walked down barefoot...
James Battista
: "Patch Adams" was shot partly in Chapel Hill; UNC was standing in for
: Medical College of Virginia. It was somewhat jarring when one minute the
: movie would be in Chapel Hill (minimum 3 hours from mountains), then
: about 30 minutes' travel time in the movie would take the characters to
: the Virginia mountains.
You can get to the Sauratowns or around Pilot Mtn/Mt. Pilot (I can never
remember which is real and which is Mayberry) in about 2 hours from
the Southern Part of Heaven.
OTOH, I don't think you can get to the mountains from Richmond in less
than an hour unless you're driving very fast. Or is MCV in Blacksburg?
--
James S. Coleman Battista, PhD
Dept of Political Science, Duke Univ.
james.b...@duke.edu
A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man -- J. Springfield
Lori Coulson
: There are, in fact, other areas of the country with red clay. Central
: Oklahoma for example...
: MK--who doesn't know whether California has any, but doubts it
There's red clay in Virginia--and some pretty spectacular red clay on the
Hawaiian Islands...(in fact there's a company in Hawai'i that makes "red
dirt" dyed T-shirts).
Lori Coulson
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: In rec.arts.sf.written Laura Haywood-Cory <lgha...@email.unc.edu> wrote:
: OTOH, I don't think you can get to the mountains from Richmond in less
: than an hour unless you're driving very fast. Or is MCV in Blacksburg?
MCV is in Richmond and if you take the interstate (I-64) from Richmond to
Charlottesville you could get to mountains in about an hour...but watch
out for the Virginia State Highway Patrol (they drive unmarked gray cars)
because you'll have to drive faster than the speed limit to do so.
Rob Hansen
<no...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>In article <8hgpd3$lpo$4...@lure.pipex.net>, Alison Hopkins
><fn...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>
>><snicker> What about the bit in Speed, where wossername drives the bus down
>>the same bit of freeway half a dozen times, *against* the road markings!
>>
>>Ali
>
> There's the ubiquitous Green VeeDub Beetle in the car chase scene in
>"Bullitt". As Steve McQueen goes haring after the Bad Guys down the
>hills of San Fransisco, this poor little German Bug gets in front of
>them three or four times! Amazing acceleration, really, from a 1300cc
>flat-four.
And the car pursuing him apparenty loses seven hubcaps during the
course of the chase.
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Patrick Connors
: On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 04:37:57 GMT, ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare)
: typed
: :
: >In article <393c59f...@news.mindspring.com>, kras...@mindspring.com
: >wrote:
: >
: >> On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 00:25:01 GMT, ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare)
: >> typed
: >> >Smokey and the Bandit is a wonderful movie with no connection whatsoever
: >> >to reality.
: >> >
: >> Yup. And they shot major parts of it in and around the town just
: >> south of Atlanta where my mother and grandmother live. If they'
: >> rotated the camera about fifteen degrees left while Bandit and Snowman
: >> were arriving at the "beer warehouse" in "Texarkana", they'd have had
: >> my grandmother's Methodist church in shot.
: >So which do you think is the better Burt Reynolds movie, Smokey and the
: >Bandit or Hooper? This was an ongoing argument between Bob and me. S & B
: >is a lot of fun, but I just *love* Hooper
: I like "Hooper" better -- had a friend who would periodically ask me
: to run only the "Damnation Alley" sequence and cackle maniacally as
: her old apartment was blown up.
Say: where *was* that town and bridge? I heard a rumor that it's
under water now.
--
Patrick Connors |
| What if the Hokey-Pokey -is- what it's all about?
|
gnohm...@my-deja.com
ir...@valdyas.org wrote:
> That's ridiculous. There's only one place (at least ...
> that's flatter than Saskatchewan,
In the USA, the state of Kansas has quite a reputation for flatness.
I grew up in Pittsburgh, PA, one of the steepest cities in the world. The
steepest cities are those whose hills are almost, but not quite, steep enough
to require switchbacks and funiculari. (Pittsburgh has at least one of each).
On a trip to Cleveland, Ohio, in the 1960s, I and those I traveled with were
struck with awe at a road warning sign we saw: it said, quite simply, "HILL".
There was no hill. There was perhaps a one degree grade, or something as
imperceptible.
"The world is a very big place", as they say in afu.
> [longing]
How can one from the beautiful Netherlands long for Saskatchewan? It must be
that the grass is greener on the other side of the dyke?
gnohm...@my-deja.com
ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare) wrote:
> In article <rmeojs4paiqri4rbo...@4ax.com>, Doug Berry
> <grid...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> > I love taking tourists from flat areas out to the Wharf. They
> > simply can't believe that we actually live on these hills. Some
> > refuse to believe that I'm actually driving on streets intended
> > for traffic.
> >
> > crest of a hill.. I look back, and everybody is *holding their
> > breath*, white-knuckling the seats. Better than a
> > roller-coaster.
>
> Michigan. I kept shaking my head and reapeating, "It's a damn good thing
> it doesn't snow or freeze here."
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, is every bit as steep as San Francisco, and it
snows and it freezes and it ices and it slushes.
When I was in elementary school, I saw a delivery van stop at the top of a
hill. The driver got out and walked to the brink, to make sure it wasn't just
a cliff. (I did climb one cliff every day on a shortcut walking to school).
You had to downshift to first gear to get up to where I lived, and the folks
at the bottom of the hill had big concrete barriers in their front yard.
A slippery day in winter there can be the scariest experience of your life.
Keith Morrison
>
> Doug Berry wrote:
>
> >The best one I've seen was the big chase scene in "The Rock."
>
> [delicious play-by-play snipped]
>
> For all their good intentions, Hollywood always seems to get San Francisco
> wrong. Even in "Vertigo", I couldn't help but marvel at how no matter where
> anyone was going, they managed to find parking *right in front* of wherever it
> is they wanted to go (a nigh impossibility even then).
> San Francisco, but with the majestic snow-capped peaks of Garibaldi Provincial
> Park clearly visible in the background. ;-{)>
That's Seacouver.
I'd like to see the tourist brochure for that city.
"Seacouver, vaguely located in the Northwest United States (except
when it's on the East Coast, Deep South, Midwest or north of the
Arctic Circle), is a wonderful city, mixing the pleasant charm and
hospitality of a Canadian population with isolated explosions, gunfire
and alien invasions more commonly associated with Los Angeles..."
--
Keith
Keith Morrison
> : And, really and truly, there's plenty of dirt in Toronto.
>
> : _And_ potholes.
>
> A really precious resource for the film crews in Toronto is all the
> tacky, run down, but _safe_ neighbourhoods available to shoot in. I was
> dropping a friend off after we had been to a movie, and we found he was
> going to have to walk _through_ a movie to get there.
I was amused at one episode of "Highlander: The Raven", supposedly
set in some unnamed American city, in which the characters have a
conversation outside on a nice day, a beautiful shot of the CN Tower
and Skydome in the background.
It's actually neat to me, when I get the chance to go to Toronto,
to be walking and suddenly realize that the last time I saw this
place there was a gunfight or explosion right where I happened to
be standing.
--
Keith
Lucy Kemnitzer
<marty...@netzero.net> wrote:
>
>I remember when I drove up to San Francisco several times back when I
>was driving MGAs (that would be in the late '50s and '60s). I quite
>agree with your cousin that it is a hairy driving experience (even with
>the small automobiles I was driving). I still drive a stick-shift car
>(a '91 Saturn), but I have finally matured enough to know that I do not
>want to drive it in San Francisco).
But you don't want to drive anything in San Francisco -- if you've
got a legal parking place, you want to keep that spot, because
you'll never find another one.
Lucy Kemnitzer
Lucy Kemnitzer
Heydt) wrote:
>In article <8hhmc2$6hv$4...@news.duke.edu>,
>James Battista <jim...@duke.edu> wrote:
>>
>>But AFAIK, CA does not have red clay. Ergo it was not CA but somewhere with
>>red clay and mountainettes, and I can't think of any reason not to just go
>>to GA, or maybe the bits of TN right next to it.
>
>I don't know about red *clay*, most of the clay I've seen in situ
>in California is medium to pale tan; but we have lots of red
>dirt, up in the Sierra foothills e.g. Apparently it dates back
>to that archaic time when oxidizing bacteria oxidized so much
>iron as to lower the oxygen content of the atmosphere by
>considerably, and lay down these huge red deposits.
Thank you. I couldn't remember red clay, either, but something
was tickling my mind about red dirt, and that's it. And in places
where the dirt is formed of degraded Franciscan chert, that's
pretty red.
Lucy Kemnitzer
Glenn Dowdy
>I remember when I drove up to San Francisco several times back when I
>was driving MGAs (that would be in the late '50s and '60s). I quite
>agree with your cousin that it is a hairy driving experience (even with
>the small automobiles I was driving). I still drive a stick-shift car
>(a '91 Saturn), but I have finally matured enough to know that I do not
>want to drive it in San Francisco).
Seattle has a few steep downtown streets, too. That's why I drive a Subaru 5
speed.
--
Glenn Dowdy
"You really need to urgently learn the lesson that
civilised debate demands that you recognise that
others may sincerely hold opinions contrary to your own."
Keith Willshaw
mike weber
<r...@fiawol.demon.co.uk> typed
:
>On Mon, 5 Jun 2000 20:28:10 +0100, Robert Sneddon
><no...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <8hgpd3$lpo$4...@lure.pipex.net>, Alison Hopkins
>><fn...@dial.pipex.com> writes
>>>
>>><snicker> What about the bit in Speed, where wossername drives the bus down
>>>the same bit of freeway half a dozen times, *against* the road markings!
>>>
>>>Ali
>>
>> There's the ubiquitous Green VeeDub Beetle in the car chase scene in
>>"Bullitt". As Steve McQueen goes haring after the Bad Guys down the
>>hills of San Fransisco, this poor little German Bug gets in front of
>>them three or four times! Amazing acceleration, really, from a 1300cc
>>flat-four.
>
>And the car pursuing him apparenty loses seven hubcaps during the
>course of the chase.
Four from the driver's side.
--
=============================================================
"They put manure in his well and they made him talk to lawyers!"
-- Cat Ballou
mike weber -- kras...@mindspring.com
mike weber
:
>mike weber <kras...@mindspring.com> wrote:
>: On Tue, 06 Jun 2000 04:37:57 GMT, ka...@sirius.com (Mary Kay Kare)
>: typed
>: I like "Hooper" better -- had a friend who would periodically ask me
>: to run only the "Damnation Alley" sequence and cackle maniacally as
>: her old apartment was blown up.
>
>Say: where *was* that town and bridge? I heard a rumor that it's
>under water now.
>
I'm not sure where the bridge was, though i suspect Alabama, 'cos
that's where the rest of that sequence was shot -- they used what was
originally built as a military hospital during WW2 and then later used
as married-student housing by University of Alabama; it wasn't far
from Tuscaloosa.
The bridge, OTOH -- i think that the same bridge was also used in "The
Stunt Man", which allegedly takes place in and around San Diego, but,
of course, this is not an indicator as to where it *really* is.
mike weber
<gary...@radio-chattanooga.com> typed
:
>James Battista wrote:
>
>> But AFAIK, CA does not have red clay. Ergo it was not CA but somewhere
>> with red clay and mountainettes, and I can't think of any reason not to
>> just go to GA, or maybe the bits of TN right next to it.
>
>of the "Dukes of Hazzard" was shot in Georgia. But that was a long time
>ago, and I preferred the "A-Team" anyway.
>
mike weber
typed
:
>On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:14:04 GMT, djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J
>Heydt) wrote:
>
>>In article <8hhmc2$6hv$4...@news.duke.edu>,
>>>
>>>But AFAIK, CA does not have red clay. Ergo it was not CA but somewhere with
>>>red clay and mountainettes, and I can't think of any reason not to just go
>>>to GA, or maybe the bits of TN right next to it.
>>
>>in California is medium to pale tan; but we have lots of red
>>dirt, up in the Sierra foothills e.g. Apparently it dates back
>>to that archaic time when oxidizing bacteria oxidized so much
>>iron as to lower the oxygen content of the atmosphere by
>>considerably, and lay down these huge red deposits.
>
>
>Thank you. I couldn't remember red clay, either, but something
>was tickling my mind about red dirt, and that's it. And in places
>where the dirt is formed of degraded Franciscan chert, that's
>pretty red.
>
Doug Berry
inspiration, sat down on Tue, 6 Jun 2000 14:03:53 GMT to write:
>Hal's favorite street-for-terrifying-tourists is Filbert, one
>block over from Lombard. You've all seen pictures of that one
>block of Lombard that descends a steep hill by curving back and
>forth and back and forth.
Filbert between Hyde and Leavenworth is a 23 degree slope. I've
stopped the van on that block to load passengers before.
Almost as fun is Buchanen where it crosses Broadway.
And of course, Gough from Geary down to Turk.
--
Douglas E. Berry grid...@mindspring.com
http://gridlore.home.mindspring.com/
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
Terry Spafford
Keith Morrison <kei...@polarnet.ca> wrote:
>Amanda Frances Bankier wrote:
>
>> : And, really and truly, there's plenty of dirt in Toronto.
>>
>> : _And_ potholes.
>>
>> A really precious resource for the film crews in Toronto is all the
>> tacky, run down, but _safe_ neighbourhoods available to shoot in. I was
>> dropping a friend off after we had been to a movie, and we found he was
>> going to have to walk _through_ a movie to get there.
>
>I was amused at one episode of "Highlander: The Raven", supposedly
>set in some unnamed American city, in which the characters have a
>conversation outside on a nice day, a beautiful shot of the CN Tower
>and Skydome in the background.
>
I can't remember what show it was; I *think* it might've been The Raven
but there was a scene once that was a chase in a Railyards, with a
shootout and all that, and they were ducking around the GO Trains (Some of
them moving. :)
Another Canadianism fav of mine is from FX:The Series, back before
Timmy's (Tim Horten's) made it to the states, a scene supposedly
in Chicago I believe, the Cop got in his car and had a red Timmy's
Rrrrroll Up the Rrrim to Win coffee cup in his hand in plain sight.
A friend of mine mentionned once there was a movie (Very Vague I know. :P)
with a scene in an American Subway station; it was filmed in the Montreal
Metro though, and they didn't manage to hide ALL the Bilingual signs.
And the TBS movie TimeRippers? Something like that (Ended by blowing up
Copps Collisium, sadly without Copps inside. :P) had a chase throuhg
a Train Station in the states... They used Union station in Toronto as
the station, complete with the Lottery Booth and the Harvey's/Churches
Chicken sign in some of the backgrounds.
They must really have taken the sceneic route to take 12+ hours to get from
outside Toronto to Hamilton. :P
--
Terry Spafford
tspa...@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca
Pete McCutchen
wrote:
> For all their good intentions, Hollywood always seems to get San Francisco
>wrong. Even in "Vertigo", I couldn't help but marvel at how no matter where
>anyone was going, they managed to find parking *right in front* of wherever it
>is they wanted to go (a nigh impossibility even then).
> Don't even get me started on all those films and TV shows allegedly set in
>San Francisco, but with the majestic snow-capped peaks of Garibaldi Provincial
>Park clearly visible in the background. ;-{)>
The fact is that television shows and movies nearly always get
geography wrong. Folks who live in the city in question can spot it
quite easily.
Two examples spring to mind, about a city in which I lived for quite
some time: In _When Harry Met Sally_, Billy Crystal picks Meg Ryan up
at the University of Chicago. Shortly afterwards, they're seen
driving together, approaching the Hancock from the North on Lake Shore
Drive. Unless they got horribly lost (and there's no indication of
that), no possible route from the U of C to a freeway leading eastward
passes by the Hancock. The reason that always bothered me was that if
they'd simply had Meg Ryan go to Northwestern, rather than Chicago, it
would have made perfect sense. And Meg Ryan was so much more of a
Northwestern girl; it would have made more sense in the context of the
film.
_My Best Friend's Wedding_ is even worse. It shows the plane bridge
located on the expressway outside of O'Hare _before_ Julia Roberts
gets on the airplane to go from New York to Chicago, implying that she
saw it on her way to the airport in New York. Which she couldn't,
because the bridge, which planes use to pass over the expressway, is
clearly identifiable as being the one in Chicago. Once she gets to
Chicago, the route which she supposedly took from O'Hare to the Drake
hotel was convoluted, to say the least, judging from the landmarks
observed along the way.
I don't watch _Due South_ or _Early Edition_, but friends who do tell
me that both have similar errors. (_Early Edition_ once filmed from
the window of my old apartment, but I never caught the episode.)
--
Pete McCutchen
Doug Berry
sat down on Tue, 06 Jun 2000 00:27:34 GMT to write:
>When I was first taken on a tour of SF and its hills, I was living in
>Michigan. I kept shaking my head and reapeating, "It's a damn good thing
>it doesn't snow or freeze here."
>
>Cue stories of frost and snow in SF.
Feburary 1976, it snowed in San Francisco. About three inches.
People were skiing down Lombard, and the city practically shut
down. We don't have much a budget for dealing with snow and ice,
y'see...