Re: Things we remember...
Greg Goss
>Greg Goss <go...@gossg.org> writes:
>
>>In the "big iron", IBM used a different coding scheme dating back
>>before ASCII. IBM's character coding had a cents sign.
>
>Neither IBM nor Burroughs EBCDIC encodings included a cents sign.
>
>Individual print trains may have included a cents symbol, but there
>was no "standard" EBCDIC encoding for such.
Hmmm. I haven't unpacked my "yellow card" since the 2003 layoff, and
I never USED the cent sign professionally, but I was sure that the 029
could punch it and that the interchange code included it.
(net browse)
I don't have my official yellow card handy, but the following wiki
page is interesting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC_037 .
"It is used in [some] countries, including ... Canada ... and the
United States." In the CCSID 37 version of EBCDIC, 4A is indeed
defined as the cent sign. And in the years when I was working in MVS,
VSE and other IBM systems, this was the coding scheme that we used
exclusively. And it defines x"4A" as the cent sign.
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Quadibloc
> sc...@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) wrote:
> >Neither IBM nor Burroughs EBCDIC encodings included a cents sign.
>
> >Individual print trains may have included a cents symbol, but there
> >was no "standard" EBCDIC encoding for such.
>
> Hmmm. I haven't unpacked my "yellow card" since the 2003 layoff, and
> I never USED the cent sign professionally, but I was sure that the 029
> could punch it and that the interchange code included it.
>
> (net browse)
>
> I don't have my official yellow card handy, but the following wiki
> page is interesting.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC_037.
>
> "It is used in [some] countries, including ... Canada ... and the
> United States." In the CCSID 37 version of EBCDIC, 4A is indeed
> defined as the cent sign. And in the years when I was working in MVS,
> VSE and other IBM systems, this was the coding scheme that we used
> exclusively. And it defines x"4A" as the cent sign.
The cents sign and the exclamation mark were both present on the IBM
29 keypunch, as 12-2-8 and 11-2-8 respectively, but they were omitted
from the PN print train.
These punched card codes correspond to x'4A' and x'5A'.
Currently, however, using the official ECMA standard for punched card
representation of ASCII, 12-2-8 represents [ and 11-2-8 represents ].
The cents sign is 12-0-3-9 and the exclamation mark is 12-7-8, the
EBCDIC vertical bar. (The ASCII vertical bar is 12-11.) Similarly, the
ASCII caret is 11-7-8, replacing the Logical NOT symbol; the ASCII
tilde is 11-0-1, and the Logical NOT symbol from ISO 8859-1 is
12-11-4-9.
John Savard
Quadibloc
> I don't have my official yellow card handy, but the following wiki
> page is interesting.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EBCDIC_037.
>
> "It is used in [some] countries, including ... Canada ... and the
> United States." In the CCSID 37 version of EBCDIC, 4A is indeed
> defined as the cent sign. And in the years when I was working in MVS,
> VSE and other IBM systems, this was the coding scheme that we used
> exclusively. And it defines x"4A" as the cent sign.
The cent sign and exclamation sign were still shown as part of EBCDIC
even in System/370 Principles of Operation from 1975.
John Savard
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