Received: by 10.66.74.72 with SMTP id r8mr2819809pav.32.1349510547935; Sat, 06 Oct 2012 01:02:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Path: g9ni25594pbh.1!nntp.google.com!npeer02.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan ) Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Did you know that about Islam? Date: 6 Oct 2012 08:02:26 GMT Organization: loft Lines: 58 Message-ID: References: <20120929.1541.12090259snz@i-m-t.demon.co.uk> <89081f71-9d21-47bf-93e8-078a465c51f0@googlegroups.com> X-Trace: individual.net jtjstK1bt97QLWY3Qvu/WALOsJAb5Uo81THFo/A6ME5YxAy2u1 X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:cEGuCmhZcdzQNrMvcWlXIZKiEHE= X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) X-Received-Bytes: 3292 In article , Robert Carnegie wrote: >On Saturday, October 6, 2012 7:03:35 AM UTC+1, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> On 2012-10-04 09:08:31 -0400, Robert Carnegie said: >> >> > On Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:59:44 AM UTC+1, Lawrence Watt-Evans wrote: >> >> >> On 2012-10-03 12:00:26 -0400, Robert Carnegie said: >> >> >>> On Wednesday, October 3, 2012 12:54:10 AM UTC+1, Quadibloc wrote: >> >> >>>> The religious beliefs of Muslims are certainly different >> >>>> from the religious beliefs of Christians. But here, does >> >>>> "different" mean "alien", particularly _incomprehensibly_ >> >>>> alien? Or is the behavior of Muslims an entirely predictable >> >>>> consequence of being brought up in a tradition where one >> >>>> simply has a different set of marching orders from one's God? >> >>> >> >>> Are they even particularly different? God, angels, sin, lots of >> >>> praying, doing good, going to heaven when you die, and, of course, >> >>> going on crusades to convert unbelievers, or their temples anyway. >> >> >> >> Right. >> >> >> >>> In fact, pretty much /every/ religion is like that - or at least, >> >>> the conspicuous ones; but, then, the crusading thing is what makes >> >>> them conspicuous, and of course wealthy and successful >> >> >> >> So you don't consider Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism, or Shintoism to be >> >> conspicuous? >> > >> > Well, Buddhism for instance has heavens and gods, just kind of >> > differently to most other religions. But if that's what you go >> > to a religion for, they've got them. >> >> Depends which school of Buddhism. Not all of them have gods. (Heaven, >> yes, but not gods.) > >So? I'm saying, gods you want, gods we got. If not in stock, can order >from wholesaler. > >> > Suppose we concentrate on the earthly-life contribution to the deal - >> > sin, praying, territorial expansion. I think /that's/ all of them, >> > including Judaism. >> >> "Sin," as distinct from "evil," is only found in Abrahamic religions, >> and Shinto does not have territorial expansion. > >What's the distinction with sin? And, should Shinto be my new favourite >religion, with no associations to organised aggressive acts that might >be taken into account? I'm guessing that while you might be conquered into a Co-Prosperity Sphere by Shintoists, they wouldn't attempt to convert you... -- ------ columbiaclosings.com What's not in Columbia anymore..