Girl Genius - 5/27/2009
Wayne Throop
who? That is... I can see being surprised, but not quite the "you!".
Wayne Throop thr...@sheol.org http://sheol.org/throopw
Dorothy J Heydt
>OK. So. Why is Agatha saying "You!" in the last frame? Isn't it obvious
>who? That is... I can see being surprised, but not quite the "you!".
Well, up until that very moment they were in a part of the
Castle with which the Chapel (which originally recognized
Agatha as the Heterodyne) was not in communication.
Now, either this separate part has acknowledged her on its
own, or else the Dingbot has managed to get it in touch with
the Chapel.
In either case, I think she's justified in being surprised
that this formerly hostile (or at best, neutral) segment has
suddenly come to her aid.
And either way, I think we've seen the last of Merlot.
Dorothy J. Heydt
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Quadibloc
> OK. So. Why is Agatha saying "You!" in the last frame? Isn't it obvious
> who? That is... I can see being surprised, but not quite the "you!".
Perhaps it's the voice of a different part of the Castle. Or she is
simply surprised that the Castle's control has extended to that area.
John Savard
Wayne Throop
:: obvious who? That is... I can see being surprised, but not quite
:: the "you!".
: djh...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
: Well, up until that very moment they were in a part of the Castle with
: which the Chapel (which originally recognized Agatha as the
: Heterodyne) was not in communication.
: Now, either this separate part has acknowledged her on its own, or
: else the Dingbot has managed to get it in touch with the Chapel.
: In either case, I think she's justified in being surprised that this
: formerly hostile (or at best, neutral) segment has suddenly come to
: her aid.
Yes, "I can see being surprised", but... that seems an odd expression
of it. It seems... the wrong *sort* of surprise. But maybe I'm
just being picky.
Say, Othar comes in and bonks Merlot. "You!" A completely
unexpected personn Agatha has no reason to think is even in
the Castle. But in this case, it's like saying "You!" upon
the apparance of a character who Agatha knew was lurking right
around the corner all along. It seems... odd.
In fact, despite the voice baloons and huge piston, I was thinking
"Is she seeing Othar or Von Pinn making a coincidental entry?".
But again, maybe I'm just being picky.
However... you raise an interesting point. I was assuming that
Agatha's loyal castle segment had completed its rasslin' match
with the rogue segment, and that's why it mushed Merlot... because
it knows very well Agatha's weapon is capable of leaving a
castle-sized hole in the landscape. And the loyalist segment
has been complaining about discharcing that weapon.
The alternative interpretation is that the rogue segment is
just acting in self-defense, *presuming* Agatha can deliver
the hole she claims, and Agatha is saying "you"! meaning,
"you crazy insane castle segment you".
Hm. Well, maybe that makes sense of it. I'll be interested
in just which "you" she's "you"ing at, and whether she'll have
problems if it's not loyalist.
Bo Lindbergh
Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On May 26, 10:00�pm, thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
> > OK. �So. �Why is Agatha saying "You!" in the last frame? �Isn't it obvious
> > who? �That is... I can see being surprised, but not quite the "you!".
>
> Perhaps it's the voice of a different part of the Castle.
Do the different fragments have distinct voices?
Now, if she recognised the voice as belonging to a human,
things get _really_ interesting....
/Bo Lindbergh
Dorothy J Heydt
>In article
><81600011-3a40-4b21...@s38g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
> Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>> On May 26, 10:00�pm, thro...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) wrote:
>> > OK. �So. �Why is Agatha saying "You!" in the last frame? �Isn't
>it obvious
>> > who? �That is... I can see being surprised, but not quite the "you!".
>>
>> Perhaps it's the voice of a different part of the Castle.
>
>Do the different fragments have distinct voices?
No clue.
>Now, if she recognised the voice as belonging to a human,
>things get _really_ interesting....
No, that's the Castle's voice. Rectangular speech balloon
with rounded corners, part of its border doubled, with little
blobby things surrounding it ... I had to go back a dozen or
so pages to make sure.
Quadibloc
> No, that's the Castle's voice. Rectangular speech balloon
> with rounded corners, part of its border doubled, with little
> blobby things surrounding it ... I had to go back a dozen or
> so pages to make sure.
I'm pretty sure it's the Castle's voice too, as a hole the size of the
Castle would mean the end of the Castle.
But the speech balloon just means the voice of *something* similar in
nature to the Castle - so it's not _impossible_ the Foglios might
surprise us with, say, a Borg-ified von Pinn on Friday.
John Savard
Dorothy J Heydt
Or, it could be another part of the Castle, not yet
amalgamated with the Chapel.
Paul Ciszek
In article <KKBx3...@kithrup.com>,
Dorothy J Heydt <djh...@kithrup.com> wrote:
>In article <b5a7d509-55a3-4f99...@z8g2000prd.googlegroups.com>,
>Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>On May 27, 6:45�am, djhe...@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
>>
>>> No, that's the Castle's voice. �Rectangular speech balloon
>>> with rounded corners, part of its border doubled, with little
>>> blobby things surrounding it ... I had to go back a dozen or
>>> so pages to make sure.
>>
>>I'm pretty sure it's the Castle's voice too, as a hole the size of the
>>Castle would mean the end of the Castle.
>>
>>But the speech balloon just means the voice of *something* similar in
>>nature to the Castle - so it's not _impossible_ the Foglios might
>>surprise us with, say, a Borg-ified von Pinn on Friday.
>
>Or, it could be another part of the Castle, not yet
>amalgamated with the Chapel.
If so, in deciding to crush Merlot and not Agatha (who was, after
all, the more direct threat) it must have decided that she was the
Heterodyne after all. My money is on the repairs done by Gil and/or
the dingbot having re-connected this part of the castle to the Chapel
just in the nick of time.
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David Goldfarb
>Quadibloc <jsa...@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>But the speech balloon just means the voice of *something* similar in
>>nature to the Castle - so it's not _impossible_ the Foglios might
>>surprise us with, say, a Borg-ified von Pinn on Friday.
>
>Or, it could be another part of the Castle, not yet
>amalgamated with the Chapel.
Here's my guess: "You!" is the voice that Agatha talked to in the Crypt.
The Crypt is *not* the same as the Chapel: the Crypt was willing to
use Agatha's Spark whether she was Heterodyne or not, the Chapel was
going to kill her if she wasn't. Also recall that the Crypt is
intelligent enough to know that the defense mechanisms are keeping
people away from the critical systems that need repair -- the Chapel
said that the Piledriver area had gone mad and was destroying Castle
systems, but if the Piledriver is the Crypt, it might well be trying
to clear a path for repairs and not be mad at all. (At least, no
more mad than the Castle is normally.)
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Mephistophilhibbs
with the Seneschal's brain in order to talk to her... how come it can
talk now? Why didn't it just talk to her directly in the crypt?
Phil Hibbs.
Mephistophilhibbs
Jaimie Vandenbergh
Dingbots fixing the lines of communication, I expect. Although the
castle was quite happy talking to Agatha while she was traversing that
corridor towards Gil and Zola while zapping rogue defenses with her
death ray, though.
Cheers - Jaimie
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Dorothy J Heydt
If we knew *how* it talks inside itself to those who are
inside it, we might be able to answer that. As we don't, we
can only shrug and say, whatever it uses to talk with inside,
it doesn't have outside in Mechanicsburg proper, and the only
way it can communicate outside is with that hookup in the
crypt.
Maybe someday they'll tell us how it works. Maybe.