Many thanks in advance
Sandy
Also, Patricia Wrede, whose books I wish I could find more of, writes a
number of books aimed at teenages that I love. She is a good fantasy
writer though, not SF.
- Chuck
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> I have searched my bibliographies and lists and have surprised myself that I
> don`t have a list of SF for kids and teens, or any books in my lists designated
> as juvenile. So what I would like is a list of reccommendations for books for
the very young and for teens.
A great many non-"juvenile" SF books are quite readable by kids and
teenagers. I think I had devoured all of Niven's stuff by age 13 or so.
(On the other hand, I couldn't make a dent in _Stars in My Pocket Like
Grains of Sand_. :-) Got to get back to that someday....)
Considering younger stuff: (10 to 13-ish, I think):
Sylvia Louise Engdahl: Several books, in a couple serieses. _Enchantress
From the Stars_, _The Far Side of Evil_ are the titles I remember.
_EftS_ is the first of two books about an agent of an interstellar human
civilization, who has to work on less-advanced human planets without
violating a non-interference Prime Directive-type law. Extremely good.
Zilpha Snyder: a trilogy, styled as fantasy but with SF elements, I
think. _Below the Root_, _And All Between_, _After the Celebration_.
William Sleator: Many books. Warning: He's writing for kids, but he
doesn't pull any punches emotionally. Some of his books rival any
"adult" dystopian SF.
Daniel Pinkwater: Many books with SF content. Thoroughly silly.
Everybody loves his stuff.
I second the motion for Duane's "Wizard" books. For everybody. (Just
been reprinted, too.)
--Z
"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
I recommend:
The first 3 "Earthsea" books, by Ursula K. LeGuin: _A Wizard of Earthsea_,
_The Tombs of Atuan_, _The Farthest Shore_. Also, the "Harper Hall" books
by Anne McCaffrey: _Dragonsinger_,_Dragonsong_, _Dragondrums_.
I read these books when I was a teenager and enjoyed them very much.
All of them deal with people that age, and I found them very relevant
to my life at the time.
My tastes have since expanded, but I remember having a good time with
these.
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Erich Schneider esch...@cs.tamu.edu
"The Hierophant is Disguised and Confused."
A lot of early Heinlein is aimed at adolescent boys, though it
holds up very well to adult reading. Look into "Tunnel in the
Sky", "Starship Troopers", "Citizen of the Galaxy", "Red Planet".
Of course, the kids'll get a lot of Heinlein philosophy, so use
caution...
If you're open to fantasy as well as science-fiction, I'd suggest
Le Guin's "Earthsea Trilogy": _A_Wizard_of_Earthsea_, _The_Tombs_
_of_Atuan, and _The Farthest_Shore_. (The fourth book didn't
measure up, IMPO.)
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"When angry, count four. When very angry, swear."
--Mark Twain
A self-correction (or rather self-ammendation):
If you want fantasy as well as SF, *for Eru's sake* include
Tolkien's The_Hobbit_! Fantastic for almost all ages. Accessible
to (in fact, written for) children, but with a lot of complexity
and surprises.
You may want to include CS Lewis's _Chronicles_of_Narnia_, but I
can't heartily recommend them. I know a lot of people who love
them, but I have two big problems with them: (1) The Christian
allegory is so thick you can cut it with a knife, and (2) Lewis
talks down to his audience. For these reasons, I haven't been
able to read Narnia since junior high, whereas I go back to
_Hobbit_ on a regular basis.
I grew up on, and revered, C.S. Lewis septology about Narnia.
The first one that Lewis wrote was "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe."
The first one, chronologically, is called, hm, in Swedish it was called
"My Uncle, the Magician." The books can be read independently and though
it is fantasy rather than sf it opened my eyes to "fantastic" literature.
They are still wonderful after all these years and have been turned into
radio and TV shows. Great stuff.
-- Oj
>I grew up on, and revered, C.S. Lewis septology about Narnia.
>The first one that Lewis wrote was "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe."
>The first one, chronologically, is called, hm, in Swedish it was called
>"My Uncle, the Magician." ....
In English, _The Magician's Nephew._
1) Heinlein of course. My favorites were always _Space Cadet_,
_Citizen of the Galaxy_, _Startship Troopers_ (only marginally
a "juvenile"), _Have Spacesuit, Will Travel_, and
_The Rolling Stones_.
2) Alan E. Nourse. Both his "Hospital Earth" milleu and some of his
individual stories. In particular, I must have read _Raiders From
the Rings_ at least 50 times (literally). I also have fond memories
of _Scavengers in Space_ (I think that's right..), _Trouble on
Titan_, and especially _The Universe Between_.
3) Andre Norton. Norton's universe has a rather different slant
for a youngster. There are strict limits on everything. Power
packs run out, lifeboats crash.. A lot of her stuff left me cold,
but there were some that knocked me for a loop. First and foremost:
_The Zero Stone_ and the followup _Uncharted Stars. Then,
_The Stars are Ours_ and _The Last Planet_.
4) Lester Del Ray. Who can forget _The Runaway Robot_, in which an
accident in manufacturing somehow gives a robot free will. He also
did an entertaining alternate earths book about a boy following his
inventor father across multiple timelines (the name, unfortunately,
escapes me.)
5) Ben Bova. Several of his Neanderthals in space, weather workers
on Titan books got filed in juveniles at my library at least.
My favorite was _Starguard_.
6) Doc Smith. Not written as juveniles, but the teen ages are probably
the best time to hit them. I've heard so many negative comments in
later years, that I've been scared to re-read, but at the time,
oh what marvels!
7) Asimov. His Lucky Starr stories are not his best work, but they
are entertaining, and it's interesting to see him working with
concepts he later refined.
8) Burroughs. Like Doc Smith, it may be best to first meet John Carter
as a teen. _A Princess of Mars_ is the classic and prototype of
course.
For the younger set:
1) The Space Cat books by Ted Key (?)
2) The Freddie the Pig books (by ?)
3) The Mrs. Pickerel books
And just because I have to throw it in:
_Up Periscope_ by somebody White. It's not SF, but for a Kid in the
60s, a WWII submarine comes pretty close, and it was one of my all time
favorites.
Ted Nolan
t...@usasoc.soc.mil
I'm sure I'll think of more just after posting this...
Andre Norton, mainly
H M Hoover
A M Lightner
Sylvia Enghdal (mentioned earlier)
Annabel & Edgar Johnston
I don't know how Hoover & Lightner would hold up to adult
reading since I haven't read either since 6th grade, but
their books were very enjoyable then.
I also had a favorite book in 2nd grade that
did *not* hold up to later re-reading in 6th grade:
Odyssey from River Bend (or maybe Odyssey *to* River Bend)--
but it sure was great in 2nd grade.
-dana
Jeff
I second this recommendation!
Also for younger children (8-10)
Mrs Frisby and the Rat's of Nim (can't remember the author)
This was one of my FAVORITES!
--Jennifer
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> 8) Burroughs. Like Doc Smith, it may be best to first meet John Carter
> as a teen. _A Princess of Mars_ is the classic and prototype of
> course.
And of course _Naked Lunch_ may give a young person just the
right mindset to better enable him/her to deal with society.
:-)
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
Hoover holds up remarkably well.
-- Dani Zweig
If you're pointing out a Van Vogt book to a younger reader, I'd suggest
Slan instead. VotSB has many concepts and themes that haven't aged well.
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Go alike, yet each believes his own
--Alexander Pope
R.A. Heinlein's series of juvenile novels, which includes, off the top
of my head:
Have Space Suit Will Travel
The Red Planet
The Rolling Stones
Starbeast
Between Worlds
Time for the Stars [? think that's right]
Farmer in the Sky
Space Cadet
and some others I can't think of right now. RAH wrote them for children
(well, for boys, really) but he doesn't talk down, he assumes the
audience is intelligent, and he deals with real issues, such as personal
responsibility, when is it right to defy authority, what does it mean
to be "adult," what does it mean to be moral, etc etc. Plus the science
is good (if dated). All in the context of a fast-paced adventure story.
Heck, as an adult I read them and they *still* make me want to join
the space program...
RAH's limitation was that he mostly wrote about father-son relationships.
The one book I can think of with a female protagonist (Podkayne of Mars)
is hardly, IMO, worth reading. Some of his values are squarely 1950.
But then, parts of _Red Planet_ are downright subversive.
I'll recomend (fantasy):
McKillip: The Riddle Master of Hed Trilogy (Harpist in
the Wind, Riddle Master of Head, Heir of Sea and Fire)
Tolkien: The Hobbit
And SF:
Schmitz: Witches of Karres
Heinlein: Tunnel in the Sky (hope that's the right name)
-s
I haven't seen these books mentioned (all by John Christopher):
The Tripod Series:
The White Mountains
The City of Gold and Lead
The Pool of Fire
When the Tripods Came (prequel, not as good as the others, but
then I read it as an adult.)
The Prince in Waiting Series:
The Prince in Waiting
Beyond the Burning Lands
The Sword of the Spirits
Others:
The Guardians
The Lotus Caves
Wild Jack
Dom and Va (I didn't like this one much either).
Did I miss any (of his juveniles, that is)?
I also second the recommendation for Sylvia Louise Engdahl's books:
Enchantress From The Stars
The Far Side of Evil
This Star Shall Abide
Beyond the Tomorrow Mountains
The Doors of the Universe
Also:
The Forgotton Door by (I think) Alexander Key
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Another series that would work well for the younger set is:
The Doctor Dolittle series by (I think) Hugh Lofting (but the
author could be way-wrong.)
Several of them had sf'ish themes to them, including a visit
to the moon.
-David
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> A lot of early Heinlein is aimed at adolescent boys, though it
> holds up very well to adult reading. Look into "Tunnel in the
> Sky", "Starship Troopers", "Citizen of the Galaxy", "Red Planet".
Early Heinlein also holds up well with pre-adolescent girls; at
least it did with this one. I would add "Have Space Suit, Will
Travel" and "Farmer in the Sky" to the above list.
Also, check out the juvenile SF written by Lester del Rey,
Alan Nourse, and Ben Bova. Some of their works may be a bit
dated now, but should still be great fun.
Claudia
Good grief! I don't know where to start, perhaps I should just e-mail my
library list and cross out the non-juve SF&F :)
Fantasy:
Narnia septalogy by CS Lewis
The Dark Is Rising 5 books by (ooo darn I hate when this happens)
My Fathers' Dragon, ? and Dragons of Blueland (another author
forgotten) (for the very young)
Stuart Little, The Trumpet of The Swan, Charlotte's Web by EB White
The Chronicles of Pyrdain by Lloyd Alexander (5 books)
SF:
A Wrinkle In Time, A Wind In The Door, A Swiftly Tilting Planet, etc.
by Madeline L'Engle
Mrs. Frisby and the Rats of NIMH
Danny Dunn and the ... (about 20-odd books) Williams & Abrashkin (sp?)
Wonderful Flight to the Mushroom Planet (five books in series) by
Eleanor Cameron
Guys From Space, Toothgnasher Thunderclap & others by Daniel Pinkwater
(picture books)
Stranger From the Depths (another forgotten author, I finally found
an abridged copy again)
I think I'll stop here and catch my breath. If you run out, e-mail me.
And now for a query: Years ago, as a Boy Sprout^H^H^H^H^Hcout I read a series
of short stories in Boys' Life magazine, about some kids who discover a time
machine, and collect other kids from across time, including a Spartan boy, and
someone named Kaybee Tentroy, from the far future. The stories were extremely
entertaining, and I even think I found a collection of them once in my hometown
library, somewhere in the middle of the alphabet :) Any clues here for author
and/or titles? Issues of Boys' Life?
Joel
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A second recommendation for Lloyd Alexander's chronicles of Prydian
(The Book of Three, The Black Cauldron, The Castle of Llyr, Taran
Wanderer, The High King.) Also in fantasy try Brian Jaques
three books (Redwall, ?Mossflower?, Mattimeo) about fantasy
stories involving animals which is really well done despite
occasionally being a bit too cutsie.
Madeline L'Engle has written many books - she has four sequels
to A Wrinkle in Time - ?A Wind in the Door?, A Swiftly Tilting
Planet, Many Waters, and An Acceptable Time. I really liked
the first, third and fifth (and haven't yet read the third).
She also has about a dozen other spin-off books from the main
series, none of which I've read.
Already mentioned is Asimov's Caves of Steel - I'd also vote
for The Naked Sun, Pebble in the Sky, and maybe also The
Currents of Space and The Stars like Dust.
There's also Jane Yolen's pit dragons trilogy, which gets
very good after you make it through the first book - they are
Heart's Blood, Dragon's Blood and A Sending of Dragons. I
keep hoping she'll write a fourth.
McCaffrey's Harper Hall trilogy (Dragonsong, Dragonsinger,
Dragondrums) is another good option, as is her book Decision
at Doona.
One other author that I remember writing fantasy that I really
liked in third grade has a last name Crew, though I don't know
if I'd like her books any more.
Hope this helps,
Chris Page
pa...@student.physics.upenn.edu
>The Tripod Series: (by John Christopher)
>
> The White Mountains
> The City of Gold and Lead
> The Pool of Fire
>
> When the Tripods Came (prequel, not as good as the others, but
> then I read it as an adult.)
Ah, how interesting. I read _The White Mountains_ once, never saw the
other volumes, but maybe someone who has read the whole series including
the prequel can tell me this:
Is Christopher working on a "What if H.G. Wells's Martian invasion had
succeeded?" scenario? That is certainly what it seemed like to me.
Anyone have any definite answers? indefinite answers? opinions?
Dorothy J. Heydt
UC Berkeley
Disclaimer: This is the Cozzarelli Lab's account, not mine--but I don't
think anybody else ever reads it.
If you are including fantasy, I recommend:
Pierce, Tamora
The Song of the Lioness (Alanna, the first adventure; In the Hand
of the Goddess; The Woman Who Rides Like
a Man; Lioness Rampant)
McKinley, Robin
The Blue Sword
These are both fabulously popular with every 10 - 15 year-old girl to whom
I give them. (I haven't tried giving them to boys, so I don't know how
they'd feel)
Alexander, Lloyd
The Chronicales of Prydain (The Book of Three, The Black Cauldron,
The Castle of Llyr, Taran Wanderer, The
High King)
These have been wildly popular with both boys and girls.
For SF, try anything by John Christopher.
Marcy
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I tend to agree with early Heinlein as a good starting place. Then
you can corrupt your children's minds in a way that will at least make
them think. The Earthsea Trilogy can get a little philosophical, but
it was fun to read as a teenager anyway. I also cut my teeth on
The Taran Wanderer sereis by LLoyd Alexander. But then again, I was
a warped youth and read anything in sight. By the time I got to
High school, I was half way through the Chronicles of Thomas Covenant,
had finished off my parents extensive collection of Asimov, Anthony,
Bradbury, McCaffery, and would read anything that anyone put into my
hands. Any way you look at it, science fiction and fantasy give
a much better education, and open up you mind better than video games
and cartoons.
Rob McGovern
Early Sixties, maybe late Fifties. The stories were by "Donald
Keith;" seems I read somewhere that that was a pseudonym. Check the
Nichols encyclopedia.
There was at least one long Time Machine serial published as a
hardcover novel. (Memory tells me there were *two* books, but the
picture is cloudy.)
The Time Machine itself was quite powerful, if not quite
user-friendly. You could set the controls for any point in space and
time, it was built to survive even in outer space, and it featured a
time-viewer so you could study history or the future.
Boy, I wanted one of these so badly I could taste it.
(Using the time-viewer could be dangerous, though. On some occasions
Brains Baynes would be watching some horrible scene from history, then
somebody would trip and fall on the gearshift knob and the Scouts
would find themselves in the middle of trouble...)
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<_Up Periscope_ by somebody White. It's not SF, but for a Kid in the
< 60s, a WWII submarine comes pretty close, and it was one of my all time
< favorites.
The author was Robb White, and he wrote a few other books featuring the war in
the Pacific. One I can remember was about two brothers flying SBD Dauntlesses
off a Midway carrier; another was about a U.S. destroyer where one man is left
alive, facing a Japanese destroyer in the Slot. One of my favorite authors
as a lad. These weren't frothy, lighthearted entertainment for kids; White's
stories were as serious as the war.
Mike Pingleton
obSciFi: 1st SF book: TERROR BY SATELLITE by I can't remember.
>Hmmm, I seem to remember a series of books I read when I was in 5th or 6th
>grade which were about a couple of kids who answer a classifed ad to
>build a rocket ship. The series was called "The Mushroom Planet"
The author was Eleanor Cameron: the books were
_The Wonderful Flight to the Mushroom Planet_
_Stowaway to the Mushroom Planet_
_A Mystery for Mr. Bass_
and perhaps some others. Copyright on the first book is 1954,
and (as of the mid-sixties) they were published by Scholastic
Book Services.
John Whitmore
PERN!!!
Anne McCaffery's books about dragons, romance, and alien planets.
Oops, McCaffrey's, sorry. Typo. Anyway, they will always remain
one of my favorite series, no holds barred (Well, the Holds WERE
barred in some of the books, but that's beside the point... :)
AMBER!!!
Roger Zelazny's books about the true nature of the universe(s),
and the families who rule there. Not as good as some of Zelazny's
other works, perhaps, but alluring and intriguing just the same,
and an excellent read.
PIERS ANTHONY!!!
Though many on this group dislike him with a vengeance, younger
teens could readily get into some of his lighter stuff, such as
Xanth or Apprentice Adept. Just don't show them Battle Circle or
Bio of a Space Tyrant until they get older. MUCH older.
TERRY PRATCHETT!!!
Doing for fantasy what Douglas Adams did for SF in Hitchhiker's
Guide, Terry Pratchett's Discworld books are among the funniest
fantasy books in human history. They're also suitable for teenagers,
IMHO.
That's just a few of my favorites. Probably some of them will have
been mentioned already...
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> The Castle of Llyr, Taran Wanderer, The
> High King)
>
>These have been wildly popular with both boys and girls.
>
>For SF, try anything by John Christopher.
>
>Marcy
>
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I LOVED the BLUE SWORD. Though I read the prequel, THE HERO AND THE
CROWN, first. I really liked THOTC better, myself.
And the author named White you refer to is Rob White. He wrote
a lot of naval stuff. Great author.
More or less. The difference is that Wells's Martians seemed to simply want to
exterminate the humans, whereas Christopher's enslaved them.
WHEN THE TRIPODS CAME has a strange feel to it because it's a book set in the
80s (90s, maybe) that's a prequel to a series set in a future that never seemed
to advance beyond the 60s.
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