Sea Wasp is not happy with us
Johan Larson
"There is already some advance buzz on the book [Boundary] on Abusenet, er,
Usenet; while people are currently busting on the cover (de rigeur when it's
a Baen release) general reaction to the advance publicity and the sample
chapters which are available here (and which were previously posted to
Baen's Bar) has been pretty positive."
Johan Larson
Sea Wasp
Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
busting on the cover was normal.
--
Sea Wasp
/^\
;;;
Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
Bill Snyder
<seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote:
>Johan Larson wrote:
>> From Sea Wasp's LiveJournal:
>> "There is already some advance buzz on the book [Boundary] on Abusenet, er,
>> Usenet; while people are currently busting on the cover (de rigeur when it's
>> a Baen release) general reaction to the advance publicity and the sample
>> chapters which are available here (and which were previously posted to
>> Baen's Bar) has been pretty positive."
>>
>> Johan Larson
>>
>>
>
> Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>busting on the cover was normal.
Really? In my experience the busting on Baen covers is generally
several cup sizes above normal.
--
Bill Snyder [This space unintentionally left blank.]
Mike Schilling
"Bill Snyder" <bsn...@airmail.net> wrote in message
news:nlgrb1pitlenheuv3...@4ax.com...
Stop being a boob.
Sea Wasp
Stop trying to milk this thread, we're already well abreast of all
the developments possible in this delicate area.
Johan Larson
"Sea Wasp" <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote in message
news:42BDB7CD...@obvioussgeinc.com...
> Johan Larson wrote:
>> From Sea Wasp's LiveJournal:
>> "There is already some advance buzz on the book [Boundary] on Abusenet,
>> er, Usenet; while people are currently busting on the cover (de rigeur
>> when it's a Baen release) general reaction to the advance publicity and
>> the sample chapters which are available here (and which were previously
>> posted to Baen's Bar) has been pretty positive."
>
> the cover was normal.
<whack>
You lie.
<whack>
You lie like your whore-mother.
We know all about you, Mr. "Wasp", oh yes. And we know you do not use
satirical neologisms like "Abusenet" lightly.
<whack>
So now would be a good time to drop the charade, and admit you are not happy
with us. You know the truth will out, in days or weeks or months, and as you
know our people are not short of patience. You cannot hold out forever. Make
this easier on yourself, and confess to what your comrades in the other
cells have already told us many times over.
<sigh>
I will give you this night to think it over. At dawn I will return, and put
this question to you again. And if you do not prove more cooperative, I will
have the corporal bring in the knives, again.
Goodnight, Mr. "Wasp".
Johan Larson
Sea Wasp
> "Sea Wasp" <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote in message
> news:42BDB7CD...@obvioussgeinc.com...
>
>>Johan Larson wrote:
>>
>>>From Sea Wasp's LiveJournal:
>>>"There is already some advance buzz on the book [Boundary] on Abusenet,
>>>er, Usenet; while people are currently busting on the cover (de rigeur
>>>when it's a Baen release) general reaction to the advance publicity and
>>>the sample chapters which are available here (and which were previously
>>>posted to Baen's Bar) has been pretty positive."
>>
>>Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that busting on
>>the cover was normal.
>
>
> <whack>
> You lie.
> <whack>
> You lie like your whore-mother.
> We know all about you, Mr. "Wasp", oh yes. And we know you do not use
> satirical neologisms like "Abusenet" lightly.
> <whack>
Why are you hitting yourself like that?
> <sigh>
> I will give you this night to think it over. At dawn I will return, and put
> this question to you again. And if you do not prove more cooperative, I will
> have the corporal bring in the knives, again.
Well played, but you appear to have forgotten *I* am the GM.
Bill Snyder
<seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote:
>Mike Schilling wrote:
>> "Bill Snyder" <bsn...@airmail.net> wrote in message
>> news:nlgrb1pitlenheuv3...@4ax.com...
>>
>>>On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:00:12 GMT, Sea Wasp
>>><seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Johan Larson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>From Sea Wasp's LiveJournal:
>>>>>"There is already some advance buzz on the book [Boundary] on Abusenet,
>>>>>er,
>>>>>Usenet; while people are currently busting on the cover (de rigeur when
>>>>>it's
>>>>>a Baen release) general reaction to the advance publicity and the sample
>>>>>chapters which are available here (and which were previously posted to
>>>>>Baen's Bar) has been pretty positive."
>>>>
>>>>Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>>>>busting on the cover was normal.
>>>
>>>Really? In my experience the busting on Baen covers is generally
>>>several cup sizes above normal.
>>
>> Stop being a boob.
>
> Stop trying to milk this thread, we're already well abreast of all
>the developments possible in this delicate area.
I expectorate in the lacteal fluid of your . . . developments,
flat-eyed untentacled monstrosity. Show some plausibility in your
cover art. Why is it always the spacecraft that we see exploding,
when the pectoral and gluteal areas of your females are so plainly
about to do so?
Mike Schilling
Stop those awful puns, or your life won't be worth a plugged nipple.
Sea Wasp
>
> I expectorate in the lacteal fluid of your . . . developments,
> flat-eyed untentacled monstrosity.
UNTENTACLED? Come, let me shake your puny bone-supported hand with a
few nematocysts...
Show some plausibility in your
> cover art.
I'll worry about that when you people show some plausibility in your
real world!
Why is it always the spacecraft that we see exploding,
> when the pectoral and gluteal areas of your females are so plainly
> about to do so?
>
"Sell-through, m'boy, sell-through. Research shows that the exploding
spaceships and barely-restrained bosoms sell far better than
barely-restrained spaceships and exploding bosoms."
Bill Snyder
<seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote:
>Bill Snyder wrote:
>
> Why is it always the spacecraft that we see exploding,
>> when the pectoral and gluteal areas of your females are so plainly
>> about to do so?
>
> "Sell-through, m'boy, sell-through. Research shows that the exploding
>spaceships and barely-restrained bosoms sell far better than
>barely-restrained spaceships and exploding bosoms."
Miserable chauvinist. Spacecraft bondage is very big on Rigel IV this
cycle, and the sight of a female dispersing her ova will cause any
green-ichored orthomale's feem nodes to palpate.
Mike Schilling
>
> "Sell-through, m'boy, sell-through. Research shows that the exploding
> spaceships and barely-restrained bosoms sell far better than
> barely-restrained spaceships and exploding bosoms."
The nipples being (pace Seinfeld) spungworthy?
William December Starr
Sea Wasp <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> said:
> Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
> busting on the cover was normal.
It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
--
William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
Robert Hutchinson
> Sea Wasp wrote ...
> > Mike Schilling wrote:
> >> Bill Snyder wrote ...
> >>>Sea Wasp wrote:
> >>>>Johan Larson wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>From Sea Wasp's LiveJournal:
> >>>>>"There is already some advance buzz on the book [Boundary] on Abusenet, er,
> >>>>>Usenet; while people are currently busting on the cover (de rigeur when it's
> >>>>>a Baen release) general reaction to the advance publicity and the sample
> >>>>>chapters which are available here (and which were previously posted to
> >>>>>Baen's Bar) has been pretty positive."
> >>>>
> >>>>busting on the cover was normal.
> >>>
> >>>Really? In my experience the busting on Baen covers is generally
> >>>several cup sizes above normal.
> >>
> >> Stop being a boob.
> >
> > Stop trying to milk this thread, we're already well abreast of all the
> > developments possible in this delicate area.
>
> Stop those awful puns, or your life won't be worth a plugged nipple.
All right, that's it. You're all due for the rack.
--
Robert Hutchinson | The Twenty is just so evil. The very name gloats
| over our suffering and powerlessness. It's a
| boot stomping on a human face for twenty minutes.
| -- Shaenon K. Garrity
Sea Wasp
> In article <42BDB7CD...@obvioussgeinc.com>,
> Sea Wasp <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> said:
>
>
>>Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>>busting on the cover was normal.
>
>
> It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
>
You are entitled to your incredibly wrong opinion, Mr. Starr.
Wayne Throop
::: busting on the cover was normal.
: It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
Do you mean there's more wrong with it than the ...
peculiar let's say, placement of the flame trail?
It seemed vaguely OK other than that (in the usual
"other than that how did you like the play Mrs Lincon" sense).
And doubly peculiar because it seemed *gratuitously* unfortunate.
Ah well.
Wayne Throop thr...@sheol.org http://sheol.org/throopw
r.r...@thevine.net
<seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote:
>William December Starr wrote:
>> In article <42BDB7CD...@obvioussgeinc.com>,
>> Sea Wasp <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> said:
>>
>>
>>>Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>>>busting on the cover was normal.
>>
>>
>> It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
>>
>
> You are entitled to your incredibly wrong opinion, Mr. Starr.
Actually, it would be an ok cover except for the flame coming out of
the dinosaur's butt. And that seems like it wouldn't be _too_ hard to
fix. If you don't, I predict that the "flame-butt dino cover" will
become as infamous as the blue cabbage one. And I'm not sure that you
want your book to be known more for the cover than for the insides.
Rebecca
William December Starr
thr...@sheol.org (Wayne Throop) said:
>>>> Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted
>>>> that busting on the cover was normal.
>>
>> It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea. [wdstarr]
>
> Do you mean there's more wrong with it than the ...
> peculiar let's say, placement of the flame trail?
I don't know -- that's the only thing I remember about it.
(Thinks.) (Thinks harder.) I guess that aside from that, it
also just looked way too much like a Baen cover... for all the
joking about large-breasted women and exploding spaceships, my
complaint has always been that there's a certain, off-putting
cartoonish/comic-book quality to the house style.
Sea Wasp
> ::: Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
> ::: busting on the cover was normal.
>
> : It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
>
> Do you mean there's more wrong with it than the ...
> peculiar let's say, placement of the flame trail?
I have trouble seeing why the placement is a problem; the angles
involved make it impossible to see it the way you're talking about
unless you really WANT to see it that way -- in which event I defy you
to show me a cover (that HAS a picture and not abstract designs or
blank cover) that I cannot find a similarly gross/risque/etc.
component to mock.
Luke Webber
> William December Starr wrote:
>> In article <42BDB7CD...@obvioussgeinc.com>,
>> Sea Wasp <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> said:
>>
>>> Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>>> busting on the cover was normal.
>>
>> It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
>
> You are entitled to your incredibly wrong opinion, Mr. Starr.
"Bad" is obviously a matter of opinion. How about "incredibly easy to
ridicule"? I think early experience bears that out. ;^)
Luke
William December Starr
Sea Wasp <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> said:
>>> It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
>>
>> Do you mean there's more wrong with it than the ...
>> peculiar let's say, placement of the flame trail? [Wayne Throop]
>
> I have trouble seeing why the placement is a problem; the
> angles involved make it impossible to see it the way you're
> talking about unless you really WANT to see it that way -- in
> which event I defy you to show me a cover (that HAS a picture
> and not abstract designs or blank cover) that I cannot find a
> similarly gross/risque/etc. component to mock.
Ryk, a lot of people who've seen the cover have had the same
reaction: "Look, a flame-farting dinosaur!" If you want to
believe that that's because they all really WANT to see that,
fine.
Johan Larson
> Wayne Throop wrote:
>> ::: Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>> ::: busting on the cover was normal. : It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
>> Do you mean there's more wrong with it than the ...
>> peculiar let's say, placement of the flame trail?
>
> I have trouble seeing why the placement is a problem; the angles involved
> make it impossible to see it the way you're talking about unless you
> really WANT to see it that way -- in which event I defy you to show me a
> cover (that HAS a picture and not abstract designs or blank cover) that I
> cannot find a similarly gross/risque/etc. component to mock.
Ok, queer us the cover of "The Deed of Paksenarrion". (No, I will not accept
her sitting astride a horse as a prurient element.)
Or you could try the original cover of "First Lensman".
Good luck,
Johan Larson
Ray Cunningham
Sea Wasp wrote:
> Wayne Throop wrote:
> > ::: Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
> > ::: busting on the cover was normal.
> >
> > : It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
> >
> > Do you mean there's more wrong with it than the ...
> > peculiar let's say, placement of the flame trail?
>
> I have trouble seeing why the placement is a problem; the angles
> involved make it impossible to see it the way you're talking about
> unless you really WANT to see it that way -- in which event I defy you
> to show me a cover (that HAS a picture and not abstract designs or
> blank cover) that I cannot find a similarly gross/risque/etc.
> component to mock.
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1857231384.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1857237633.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1857232739.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
(Iain Banks - Consider Phlebas, Inversions, and Feersum Endjinn) Just
to see what people can do with them.
Ray
Wayne Throop
: I have trouble seeing why the placement is a problem; the angles
: involved make it impossible to see it the way you're talking about
: unless you really WANT to see it that way -- in which event I defy you
: to show me a cover (that HAS a picture and not abstract designs or
: blank cover) that I cannot find a similarly gross/risque/etc.
: component to mock.
Well, that form of mockage is an exageration, I agree.
No, what I was more thinking about was that the impact site,
and/or head of the flame trail, was obscured behind the mumblesaur.
Seems like... oh I dunno, makes me want to peek around it to see better.
Unless of course I'm misinterpreting the picture altogether,
which is always possible.
Wayne Throop
: I guess that aside from that, it also just looked way too much like a
: Baen cover... for all the joking about large-breasted women and
: exploding spaceships, my complaint has always been that there's a
: certain, off-putting cartoonish/comic-book quality to the house style.
Well, yeah, but I *like* cartoons and/or comic books. Mostly.
Though percentage of Baen books I like... hrm... small-ish, I think.
Sea Wasp
>
> Sea Wasp wrote:
>
>>Wayne Throop wrote:
>>
>>>::: Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>>>::: busting on the cover was normal.
>>>
>>>: It _is_ a pretty bad cover, Sea.
>>>
>>>Do you mean there's more wrong with it than the ...
>>>peculiar let's say, placement of the flame trail?
>>
>> I have trouble seeing why the placement is a problem; the angles
>>involved make it impossible to see it the way you're talking about
>>unless you really WANT to see it that way -- in which event I defy you
>>to show me a cover (that HAS a picture and not abstract designs or
>>blank cover) that I cannot find a similarly gross/risque/etc.
>>component to mock.
>
>
> http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1857231384.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
>
Hmm, so that ship's circling the drain? I'm wondering why we're
shooting the image from under the bathtub water, though.
> http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1857237633.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
... why exactly am I looking at a gateway through the guard of some
bad-fantasy edged sword-thing?
>
> http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1857232739.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
>
Migod, it's TERMINATOR EAGLE versus PEOPLE OF DUNE!
> (Iain Banks - Consider Phlebas, Inversions, and Feersum Endjinn) Just
> to see what people can do with them.
Note, the mockery above is merely because it was asked for and not
because it necessarily represents my opinion of the artwork in
question. The first I actually found quite pretty. The other two are
rather eeehhhhh.
Sea Wasp
I'll agree that I might prefer to see the actual impact site -- a big
boom behind the dinosaurs.
Bradford Holden
>
> > http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P/1857237633.02.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
>
> ... why exactly am I looking at a gateway through the guard of some
> bad-fantasy edged sword-thing?
Weird, the US cover is very similar. I think they are trying to make you
think it is a generic sword -n- socery book and then, bwahaha....
--
Bradford Holden
"Let us leave philosophy to the physicists" - Ken MacLeod _Newton's Wake_
Eric Flint
> Wayne Throop wrote:
>> No, what I was more thinking about was that the impact site,
>> and/or head of the flame trail, was obscured behind the mumblesaur.
>> Seems like... oh I dunno, makes me want to peek around it to see better.
>> Unless of course I'm misinterpreting the picture altogether,
>> which is always possible.
>
> I'll agree that I might prefer to see the actual impact site -- a big boom
> behind the dinosaurs.
>
> Sea Wasp
Oh, pfui. What I want to know is what happened to the half-nekkid bimbo?
Yeah, sure, there's no bimbo in the actual story, but... but...
Fer chrissake, what's happened to tradition, here?
No, no, not the so-called "Baen tradition." Sheesh. Anybody who thinks Jim
Baen invented the half-nekkid bimbo as a stock image for SF covers was born
yesterday. I'm talking about the Great Covers I grew up with as a wee
child. Lessee.... I have before me even now the classic cover of Galaxy,
the February 1964 issue, which depicts a small horde of bathing beauties
escaping from a presumably alien spaceship.
Dammit, what's the point of having prehistoric monsters on the cover of a
book if one of them isn't on the verge of devouring a half-nekkid bimbo???
While -- always the classic touch -- somehow having a leer on its reptilian
snouty face, as if it had other than culinary lusts in mind.
It's the Decline of the West, mark my words.
Eric
willre...@yahoo.com
Eric Flint wrote:
> "Sea Wasp" <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote in message
> news:42BF68F...@obvioussgeinc.com...
> > Wayne Throop wrote:
>
> >> No, what I was more thinking about was that the impact site,
> >> and/or head of the flame trail, was obscured behind the mumblesaur.
> >> Seems like... oh I dunno, makes me want to peek around it to see better.
> >> Unless of course I'm misinterpreting the picture altogether,
> >> which is always possible.
> >
> > I'll agree that I might prefer to see the actual impact site -- a big boom
> > behind the dinosaurs.
> >
> > Sea Wasp
>
> Oh, pfui. What I want to know is what happened to the half-nekkid bimbo?
> Yeah, sure, there's no bimbo in the actual story, but... but...
NO BIMBO in the story? And you expect us to buy it.
>
> Fer chrissake, what's happened to tradition, here?
>
> No, no, not the so-called "Baen tradition." Sheesh. Anybody who thinks Jim
> Baen invented the half-nekkid bimbo as a stock image for SF covers was born
> yesterday. I'm talking about the Great Covers I grew up with as a wee
> child. Lessee.... I have before me even now the classic cover of Galaxy,
> the February 1964 issue, which depicts a small horde of bathing beauties
> escaping from a presumably alien spaceship.
>
> Dammit, what's the point of having prehistoric monsters on the cover of a
> book if one of them isn't on the verge of devouring a half-nekkid bimbo???
> While -- always the classic touch -- somehow having a leer on its reptilian
> snouty face, as if it had other than culinary lusts in mind.
>
> It's the Decline of the West, mark my words.
>
> Eric
No Bimbo, sigh. I bet there's no bug-eyed aliens either.
Sheesh.
Will in New Haven
--
After a lifelong study of the Buddha's words, I have to regretfully
admit that the Four Noble Truths are probably not
Faster Horses,
Older Whiskey,
Younger Women,
More Money
Sea Wasp
>
> Eric Flint wrote:
>
>>"Sea Wasp" <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> wrote in message
>>news:42BF68F...@obvioussgeinc.com...
>>
>>>Wayne Throop wrote:
>>
>>>>No, what I was more thinking about was that the impact site,
>>>>and/or head of the flame trail, was obscured behind the mumblesaur.
>>>>Seems like... oh I dunno, makes me want to peek around it to see better.
>>>>Unless of course I'm misinterpreting the picture altogether,
>>>>which is always possible.
>>>
>>>I'll agree that I might prefer to see the actual impact site -- a big boom
>>>behind the dinosaurs.
>>>
>>>Sea Wasp
>>
>>Oh, pfui. What I want to know is what happened to the half-nekkid bimbo?
>>Yeah, sure, there's no bimbo in the actual story, but... but...
>
>
> NO BIMBO in the story? And you expect us to buy it.
Well, it depends on the definition. There's no DUMB blondes in the
story, but there's at least two babalicious blondes. But they don't
scream easily or run around in less than necessary.
>
>
>>Fer chrissake, what's happened to tradition, here?
>>
>>Dammit, what's the point of having prehistoric monsters on the cover of a
>>book if one of them isn't on the verge of devouring a half-nekkid bimbo???
>>While -- always the classic touch -- somehow having a leer on its reptilian
>>snouty face, as if it had other than culinary lusts in mind.
>>
>>It's the Decline of the West, mark my words.
Well, I do agree that without some proper cleavage there does seem to
be something missing from the cover... :)
> No Bimbo, sigh. I bet there's no bug-eyed aliens either.
Well, aliens DO have something to do with it. They have tentacles, if
that's any consolation. The eyes aren't bugging out, though.
willre...@yahoo.com
demanding, I am not inflexible.
Will in New Haven
Mike Schilling
"Eric Flint" <efl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:KdmdnShLGdM...@comcast.com...
>
> No, no, not the so-called "Baen tradition." Sheesh. Anybody who thinks
> Jim Baen invented the half-nekkid bimbo as a stock image for SF covers was
> born yesterday. I'm talking about the Great Covers I grew up with as a
> wee child. Lessee.... I have before me even now the classic cover of
> Galaxy, the February 1964 issue, which depicts a small horde of bathing
> beauties escaping from a presumably alien spaceship.
Does it relate to any of the stories in that issue, or is it just because?
David Cowie
You tell me:
http://www.philipkdickfans.com/pkdweb/images/BlobelBig.jpg
And here's a cover with a genuine Brass Brassiere I found while searching
for the Galaxy cover:
http://www.rainfall.com/posters/images/scifimag/SF036.JPG
--
David Cowie
Containment Failure + 14185:13
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
(from the Brass example)
"A Rod Cantrell Novel by Murray Leinster"? I don't recall any such series.
Details anyone?
Ted
Mike Schilling
"David Cowie" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.06.27....@privacy.net...
> On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:27:53 +0000, Mike Schilling wrote:
>
>>
>> "Eric Flint" <efl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:KdmdnShLGdM...@comcast.com...
>>>
>>> No, no, not the so-called "Baen tradition." Sheesh. Anybody who thinks
>>> Jim Baen invented the half-nekkid bimbo as a stock image for SF covers
>>> was
>>> born yesterday. I'm talking about the Great Covers I grew up with as a
>>> wee child. Lessee.... I have before me even now the classic cover of
>>> Galaxy, the February 1964 issue, which depicts a small horde of bathing
>>> beauties escaping from a presumably alien spaceship.
>>
>> Does it relate to any of the stories in that issue, or is it just
>> because?
>
> You tell me:
> http://www.philipkdickfans.com/pkdweb/images/BlobelBig.jpg
I dunno; it's nothing to do with either the Vance or the PKD, but I haven't
read the others.
Chuk Goodin
>> I have trouble seeing why the placement is a problem; the
>> angles involved make it impossible to see it the way you're
>> talking about unless you really WANT to see it that way -- in
>> which event I defy you to show me a cover (that HAS a picture
>> and not abstract designs or blank cover) that I cannot find a
>> similarly gross/risque/etc. component to mock.
>
>Ryk, a lot of people who've seen the cover have had the same
>reaction: "Look, a flame-farting dinosaur!" If you want to
>believe that that's because they all really WANT to see that,
>fine.
Personally as a possibly less biased viewer, I only looked at the cover
after reading a thread here. It takes some determined viewing to think
that that trail is actually coming from the dinosaur. That said, I really
wonder why we don't get to see the actual impact site...it's a wrongness.
--
chuk
Mike Schilling
"Robert Hutchinson" <ser...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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The odds are stacked against that.
Mike Schilling
"Chuk Goodin" <cgo...@sfu.ca> wrote in message
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>
> Personally as a possibly less biased viewer, I only looked at the cover
> after reading a thread here. It takes some determined viewing to think
> that that trail is actually coming from the dinosaur. That said, I really
> wonder why we don't get to see the actual impact site...it's a wrongness.
It doesn't look like a fart, because the angle is wrong. It does look like
a large dragonosaur has suffered a puncture wound and is leaking flame
upwards.
Sea Wasp
> Tentacled aliens and babalicious blondes are not all that bad. While
> demanding, I am not inflexible.
I will confess, however, that the babalicious blondes do not interact
with living tentacled aliens. Perhaps in the sequel, but I wasn't
ready to do a proper hentai manga novel.
Johan Larson
> willre...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Tentacled aliens and babalicious blondes are not all that bad. While
>> demanding, I am not inflexible.
>
> I will confess, however, that the babalicious blondes do not interact with
> living tentacled aliens. Perhaps in the sequel, but I wasn't ready to do a
> proper hentai manga novel.
Well, now, there will be an interplanetary voyage in the novel, right? That
should leave lots of time for some Captain's Log moments. I understand you
can't include them in the novel on paper, but maybe you could get them into,
say, the webscriptions.
Johan Larson
Sea Wasp
You will have to ask Echhi, er, Eric Flint for those. My
sensibilities are 1950s, I don't do sex scenes except in the most
extreme necessity.
Robert A. Woodward
t...@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) wrote:
> In article <pan.2005.06.27....@privacy.net>,
> David Cowie <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> >
> >
<SNIP of bimbos on covers, and other topics>
> >
> >And here's a cover with a genuine Brass Brassiere I found while searching
> >for the Galaxy cover:
> >http://www.rainfall.com/posters/images/scifimag/SF036.JPG
> >
>
> (from the Brass example)
>
> "A Rod Cantrell Novel by Murray Leinster"? I don't recall any such series.
> Details anyone?
>
2 or 3 stories that appeared in Startling Stories in the late 40s.
Pretty standard Leinster, IIRC (it has been close to 30 years since
I read them). The 2nd one, _The Black Galaxy_, was reprinted as a
Galaxy SF novel.
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<http://www.drizzle.com/~robertaw>
Michael Stemper
>In article <42BDB7CD...@obvioussgeinc.com>, Sea Wasp <seawasp...@obvioussgeinc.com> said:
>
>> Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>> busting on the cover was normal.
>
So who has a pointer to this cover? I wanna see the flame-farting dinosaur!
--
Michael F. Stemper
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2 + 2 = 5, for sufficiently large values of 2
David Cowie
>
> So who has a pointer to this cover? I wanna see the flame-farting dinosaur!
http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1t2t1/Boundary.html
--
David Cowie
Containment Failure + 14209:31
William December Starr
"Mike Schilling" <mscotts...@hotmail.com> said:
> It doesn't look like a fart, because the angle is wrong.
> It does look like a large dragonosaur has suffered a
> puncture wound and is leaking flame upwards.
You are right. I stand corrected.
Eric Flint
"Mike Schilling" <mscotts...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Oh, it relates to the story. How accurately, I don't remember. It's an
illustration of J.T. McIntosh's "Grandmother Earth."
My experience with the Half-Nekkid Bimbo theme on the covers of my own
titles (either as author or editor) is that they usually do refer to some
female who does in fact appear in the story. They're not made up out of
whole cloth. It's just that the rendition is heavily shifted in the
direction of bimbo-ness and/or (usually "and") in the direction of scantier
clothing than she's actually wearing in the story. (There are some
exceptions. When my wife and daughter first saw the cover of THE TIDE OF
VICTORY they demanded to know who the bimbo was on the cover. I didn't know
then, I don't know now. It's nobody in the novel, for sure.)
Mind you, there are weird quirks. There is a _perfectly legitimate_ scene
in the short novel "Diamonds Are Forever" that Ryk and I wrote for the
MOUNTAIN MAGIC anthology where the heroine is confronting a monster wearing
nothing but her underwear. But did they put that on cover????
Nope. For no reason I can figure out, they've got some scowling guy who
looks like Boris Karlov and no relationship to any of the stories in the
book. Go figure.
Eric
Wayne Throop
: Mind you, there are weird quirks. There is a _perfectly legitimate_ scene
: MOUNTAIN MAGIC anthology where the heroine is confronting a monster wearing
: nothing but her underwear. But did they put that on cover????
: Nope. For no reason I can figure out, they've got some scowling guy who
: looks like Boris Karlov and no relationship to any of the stories in the
: book. Go figure.
Huh? I assumed it was a picture of Saunk and the professor.
Or *conceivably* Grandpaw. A remarkably *bad* picture of them, if it *is*
from the Hogben stories, but still; the guy in the foreground is holding
a multi-barrel gun-a-ma-doodle, and Saunk and Ma created a multi-barrel
gun-a-ma-jig in one of the Hogben stories.
I say "remarkably bad" because if it was Saunk, then the things shown
are far too techy, and have none of the homespun charm of the stories.
Oh well. I suppose it's almost a relief if it *is* urelated to the content.
Ted Nolan <tednolan>
Eric Flint <efl...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>My experience with the Half-Nekkid Bimbo theme on the covers of my own
>titles (either as author or editor) is that they usually do refer to some
>female who does in fact appear in the story. They're not made up out of
>whole cloth. It's just that the rendition is heavily shifted in the
>direction of bimbo-ness and/or (usually "and") in the direction of scantier
>clothing
So it's made up out of half cloth..
Ted
Tim McDaniel
>scene in the short novel "Diamonds Are Forever" that Ryk and I wrote
>for the MOUNTAIN MAGIC anthology where the heroine is confronting a
>monster wearing nothing but her underwear.
And how it got into her underwear we'll never know.
--
Tim McDaniel, tm...@panix.com
Sea Wasp
And while I was WRITING it I was muttering about how perfect a cover
this is. And it's not only "perfectly legitimate" in the sense that
the scene occurs in the book, but ALSO in the sense that the heroine
has an excellent REASON -- and not an ecchi one, either -- for
confronting a hideous monster in nothing but bra and panties.
>
> Nope. For no reason I can figure out, they've got some scowling guy who
> looks like Boris Karlov and no relationship to any of the stories in the
> book. Go figure.
Isn't one of the Kuttner stories focused around some guy who forces
the Hogbens to make him some superweapon?
Sea Wasp
*rimshot* he'll be here all week folks.
Nancy Lebovitz
David Cowie <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:48:30 -0500, Michael Stemper wrote:
>
>>
>> So who has a pointer to this cover? I wanna see the flame-farting dinosaur!
>
>http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1t2t1/Boundary.html
>
>
>--
>David Cowie
>
>Containment Failure + 14209:31
>
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David Bilek
>Eric Flint wrote:
>>
>> My experience with the Half-Nekkid Bimbo theme on the covers of my own
>> titles (either as author or editor) is that they usually do refer to some
>> female who does in fact appear in the story. They're not made up out of
>> whole cloth. It's just that the rendition is heavily shifted in the
>> direction of bimbo-ness and/or (usually "and") in the direction of scantier
>> clothing than she's actually wearing in the story. (There are some
>> exceptions. When my wife and daughter first saw the cover of THE TIDE OF
>> VICTORY they demanded to know who the bimbo was on the cover. I didn't know
>> then, I don't know now. It's nobody in the novel, for sure.)
>>
>> Mind you, there are weird quirks. There is a _perfectly legitimate_ scene
>> in the short novel "Diamonds Are Forever" that Ryk and I wrote for the
>> MOUNTAIN MAGIC anthology where the heroine is confronting a monster wearing
>> nothing but her underwear. But did they put that on cover????
>
> And while I was WRITING it I was muttering about how perfect a cover
>this is. And it's not only "perfectly legitimate" in the sense that
>the scene occurs in the book, but ALSO in the sense that the heroine
>has an excellent REASON -- and not an ecchi one, either -- for
>confronting a hideous monster in nothing but bra and panties.
>
"It appears in the book" isn't, to me, sufficient justification for
letting something on the cover. Jacqueline Carey's (I almost wrote
Elisabeth Carey here, now that is an interesting thought picture)
_Kushiel's Avatar_ contains a scene of the naked protagonist getting
off on being forcibly sodomized with a solid iron strap on dildo.
Does that mean we should just shrug if that scene appeared on the
cover? Um, no.
A cover which appeals solely to prurient interest is juvenile, even if
the depicted scene actually happens. I'm all for lewd and lascivious
behavior but there is no need to act like we are all 14 year old boys.
-David
Duke of URL
> In article <pan.2005.06.28....@privacy.net>,
> David Cowie <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 12:48:30 -0500, Michael Stemper wrote:
>>
>>> So who has a pointer to this cover? I wanna see the flame-farting
>>> dinosaur!
>>
>> http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1t2t1/Boundary.html
>>
> It's a flame-farting dinosaur. Wearing a funny hat.
Yup, no bougt adout it - an ffd with a (reasonably enough) really bad
attitude.
--
Moses.D...@gmail.com
Cliologist, Philanthropologist, Prothonotary Wibbler,
Paleoconservative, Surface Warrior Squid
Robert Hutchinson
> Bill Snyder wrote:
> > On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:00:12 GMT, Sea Wasp
>
> >> Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
> >>busting on the cover was normal.
> >
> > several cup sizes above normal.
>
I don't think they'd quite make it, would they?
--
Robert Hutchinson | The Twenty is just so evil. The very name gloats
| over our suffering and powerlessness. It's a
| boot stomping on a human face for twenty minutes.
| -- Shaenon K. Garrity
Robert Hutchinson
> David Cowie wrote:
> >Michael Stemper wrote:
> >
> >> So who has a pointer to this cover? I wanna see the flame-farting dinosaur!
> >
> >http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1t2t1/Boundary.html
>
> It's a flame-farting dinosaur. Wearing a funny hat.
A funny hat? Please.
That dinosaur clearly comes from France.
Mike Schilling
> My experience with the Half-Nekkid Bimbo theme on the covers of my own
> titles (either as author or editor) is that they usually do refer to some
> female who does in fact appear in the story. They're not made up out of
> whole cloth.
Well, she wouldn't be half-naked then, would she?
David McMillan
> Well, I do agree that without some proper cleavage there does seem
> to be something missing from the cover... :)
What?!? A novel involving paleontology that has a Cover Spathicity
of zero? What kind of mindless tripe are you trying to foist off on
us, Wasp?
>> No Bimbo, sigh. I bet there's no bug-eyed aliens either.
>
>
> Well, aliens DO have something to do with it. They have tentacles,
> if that's any consolation. The eyes aren't bugging out, though.
It only makes up for the lack of spathic content if the tentacles
are, ahem, 'Centaurian' in nature.
David McMillan
> "Bill Snyder" <bsn...@airmail.net> wrote in message
> news:nlgrb1pitlenheuv3...@4ax.com...
>
>>On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:00:12 GMT, Sea Wasp
>>>Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>>>busting on the cover was normal.
>>
>>Really? In my experience the busting on Baen covers is generally
>>several cup sizes above normal.
>
>
> Stop being a boob.
IME, Baen's Cover Girls tend to be well armed, with Really Massive
Turret Guns (almost always in dual-mount turrets). Of course, their
holsters often show the signs of having been manufactured by the
lowest bidder....
David McMillan
> willre...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> Tentacled aliens and babalicious blondes are not all that bad. While
>> demanding, I am not inflexible.
>
>
> I will confess, however, that the babalicious blondes do not
> interact with living tentacled aliens. Perhaps in the sequel, but I
> wasn't ready to do a proper hentai manga novel.
<channels a mutual Abusenet acquaintance> There must be HENTAI, do
you hear, HENTAI!!!! <shakes Sea Wasp>
David McMillan
> On Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:00:12 GMT, Sea Wasp
>> Actually, that was a rather positive thing. I simply noted that
>>busting on the cover was normal.
>
>
> Really? In my experience the busting on Baen covers is generally
> several cup sizes above normal.
<FACEFAULT>
Wayne Throop
: Robert Hutchinson <ser...@hotmail.com>
: A funny hat? Please.
: That dinosaur clearly comes from France.
Huh? Onaccounta the hat, or onaccounta resemblance to Le Petomane?
You could smell the whiskey burnin' down Copperhead Road
--- Copperhead Road
Luke Webber
> "It appears in the book" isn't, to me, sufficient justification for
> letting something on the cover. Jacqueline Carey's (I almost wrote
> Elisabeth Carey here, now that is an interesting thought picture)
> _Kushiel's Avatar_ contains a scene of the naked protagonist getting
> off on being forcibly sodomized with a solid iron strap on dildo.
[snip]
Agh! Did they at least warm it up a little first? I'm betting "no".
Luke
Sea Wasp
If you insist on channeling HIM...
Not until I have created the catgirls, *CATGIRLS*!!! *shakes universe*
Nix
No. This was *meant* to be vilely unpleasant. The protagonist found
it so --- but that didn't stop her from getting off on it.
--
`I lost interest in "blade servers" when I found they didn't throw knives
at people who weren't supposed to be in your machine room.'
--- Anthony de Boer
Robert Hutchinson
> Robert Hutchinson <ser...@hotmail.com>
> : A funny hat? Please.
> : That dinosaur clearly comes from France.
>
> Huh? Onaccounta the hat, or onaccounta resemblance to Le Petomane?
"A funny hat? Please." means that I find it not to be a hat.
"comes from France" is one o' them pop culture references, intended to
imply that it seems a natural, yet very weird, protuberance.
Danny Sichel
>> "It appears in the book" isn't, to me, sufficient justification for
>> letting something on the cover. Jacqueline Carey's (I almost wrote
>> Elisabeth Carey here, now that is an interesting thought picture)
>> _Kushiel's Avatar_ contains a scene of the naked protagonist getting
>> off on being forcibly sodomized with a solid iron strap on dildo.
> Agh! Did they at least warm it up a little first? I'm betting "no".
...you'd rather it have been *hot* iron?
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"I like you much better when you don't exist." - Lullaby Baxter Trio